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12/21 Raw LD: Raw gets DAMONIZED!

I've never subscribed to the shareholders theory. I like Vince's company, but tonight wasn't entertaining for the most part.
 
Yeah, sorry for making money.

Go watch TNA or something if you really hate Vince McMahon that much. Christ, did he rape your mother or something?

I have no problem with people making money.

What I have a problem with is people trying to lie and distort the situation to others to make money.

What went on during those segments was complete shit. And for you to try and tell everyone that it's not shit, in the name of you attempting to profit off it, is absurd.

Now, Mr. Shareholder, how many fans do you want to predict that WWE gained tonight from those segments?
 
It's fine for Guy to want the company to be profitable if he's a shareholder. So long as he knows he's looking out for himself and Vince, which I'm sure he already knows. I doubt Guy thinks he needs to make wrestling fans love WWE for their own good or something.
 
2009. The lowest wrestling has ever been.

It's not wrestling, it's not sports entertainment. Monday Night Raw is now a two-hour late night talk show where CELEBRITIES promote their latest career move or achievement, a horrible attempt at sketch comedy, and a clusterfuck of unbelievably embarrassing and unentertaining horseshit.
 
I have no problem with people making money.

What I have a problem with is people trying to lie and distort the situation to others to make money.

What went on during those segments was complete shit. And for you to try and tell everyone that it's not shit, in the name of you attempting to profit off it, is absurd.

Now, Mr. Shareholder, how many fans do you want to predict that WWE gained tonight from those segments?

As I stated earlier, I'm sure kids found it amusing, so don't worry, there won't be a big dip tomorrow.

As soon as it hits $17, I'm out since I will have doubled my investment.

I admit I was sort of playing Devil's Advocate tonight, but a lot of you guys overreacted to it... REALLY overreacted to it. You can't sit there and tell me what went on was more offensive or terrible than some of the stuff they've done in the past.
 
2009. The lowest wrestling has ever been.

It's not wrestling, it's not sports entertainment. Monday Night Raw is now a two-hour late night talk show where CELEBRITIES promote their latest career move or achievement, a horrible attempt at sketch comedy, and a clusterfuck of unbelievably embarrassing and unentertaining horseshit.

Dude it's been two bad shows around the holidays. This isn't the dark age.
 
The last TNA show I watched was awful, much worse than RAW today or even last week. Hopefully TNA has improved somewhat since acquiring Hogan or else they won't be able to compete no matter how bad WWE programming becomes
 
Dude it's been two bad shows around the holidays. This isn't the dark age.



Dude, it's been awful all year. Absolutely awful. Nothing comes close. People say the mid 90's were bad, but I dare you to watch some of that era and say it's worse than this. Not.Even.Close.
 
For Raw, I'm not sure I could argue. This year has been abysmal for Raw, possibly the worst it has ever been. I'd rather watch a thousand fucking Barry Horowitz matches on Raw then some of the shit I've seen this year.

The WWE all together though has actually vastly improved this year over last IMO. 2007-08 was terrible all around, I just couldn't get into anything and every PPV was just flat shit. 2009 has had some great, great wrestling matches showcased on the Smackdown brand though. The Jericho-Mysterio and Punk-Hardy feuds are the best feuds I've seen in the WWE in years and years.
 
No, it hasn't been awful at all. It has had bad shows, but overall it's been decent.

EDIT: Don't forget ECW. That show's been pretty much great all year.
 
Dude, it's been awful all year. Absolutely awful. Nothing comes close. People say the mid 90's were bad, but I dare you to watch some of that era and say it's worse than this. Not.Even.Close.

Mantaur and Max Moon were pretty bad in the 90's. Even though I was a Max Moon and Man Mountain Rock mark as a kid. Just imagine a show with Mantaur and Dennis Miller hosting. :lol2:
 
As I stated earlier, I'm sure kids found it amusing, so don't worry, there won't be a big dip tomorrow.

As soon as it hits $17, I'm out since I will have doubled my investment.

I admit I was sort of playing Devil's Advocate tonight, but a lot of you guys overreacted to it... REALLY overreacted to it. You can't sit there and tell me what went on was more offensive or terrible than some of the stuff they've done in the past.

When did you initially invest? What month and year?
 
Yeah but those were few and far between. Lawrence Taylor main evented Wrestlemania man. LAWRENCE TAYLOR.

Guess it's no worse than Mongo being US champ.

1995 had some good wrestling man. You had guys like HBK, Bret, Owen, Davey, Razor, the 1-2-3 Kid, Nash, and a bunch of other young guys in their prime. There was some solid wrestling that year despite the shitty angles.
 

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