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WWE Night Of Champions: WWE World Heavyweight Championship - Lesnar (c) VS Cena

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On tonight's episode of Main Event, Triple H revealed that John Cena has activated his rematch clause and will challenge Brock Lesnar for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at Night of Champions. Cena is scheduled to make his return to TV on the next episode of Raw to address his loss and, as a result of tonight's announcement, discuss his rematch with Lesnar.

I'm still of the opinion that Lesnar drops the title back to Cena. According to reports from earlier today, Lesnar isn't advertised for Raw until September 21st, which is the go home Raw for Night of Champions. It's possible that advertisements haven't been updated concerning Lesnar but, if not, I simply don't see Lesnar holding onto the title past NOC. I certainly don't see him holding it all the way until WrestleMania, at least not unless there are a lot of dates added to his schedule.
 
If they're really going to put the strap back on Cena, it has to be some sort of gimmick match. Mostly because it's obvious that Cena can't fuck with Lesnar in a regular match. To challenge him to a regular match would be ******ed.

I'm hoping Lesnar puts him out of action for awhile. Not legitimately, but a solid break would be good. Like, until the Rumble at least.
 
Yeah, I agree they have to go with some sort of gimmick match here. After what happened at Summerslam, there's no way they can have anyone buy into Cena having a chance against Lesnar without a stipulation. Next week on Raw, Cena challenges Lesnar to a No DQ match during his address to the fans, and Heyman accepts.

Interested to see how WWE builds the rematch with two big storylines tying together: Cena's redemption and Cena tying Flair's sixteen world title wins record. After the savage beating at Summerslam, you have to believe WWE will play up Cena's redemption, and Cena rising to the occasion to defeat Lesnar after a devastating loss.

Hard to pick a winner, because if Lesnar loses after annihilating Cena at Summerslam, Brock dropping the title to Cena one month after their last match feels anticlimactic. On the other hand, it's hard to forget about or ignore the tricky hurdle for WWE, if Lesnar retains, when you consider Lesnar's sporadic appearances contract/schedule.
 
If Lesnar drops the title to Cena at NOC then everything these last few months has being for nothing. Ending the streak, pummelling Cena...they have built Brock to be a monster so him holding the belt for just 4 weeks means absolute zero sense.

Yes, WWE has a tricky hurdle with Lesnar and his appearances BUT why give the title to Lesnar for just 4 weeks? That makes him look weak. Second of all the champ doesn't need to be on weekly TV. Having him appear sporadic makes it feel so much more special when he does. I would have Lesnar walk out as Champion and turn up when he wants too.

Alternative is Seth Rollins cashes in on a beaten Lesnar. Triple H screws Heyman/Lesnar because Rollins as Champ is 'best for business'. This is a long shot but keeps Lesnar looking strong and keeps the belt off Cena.

Another one is Nikki Bella. She is now in the pockets of the Authority. Have her run down to the ring worried about the beating Cena is taking. Have Cena go into super Cena mode and get on the offensive against Brock and then have Nikki distract him and cost him the match. The Authority come out smug because they have screwed Cena and Lesnar is still champ. Cena is protected from another ass whooping.

Finally have Cena join The Authority and they all screw Lesnar.
 
Yeah gimmick or not, I agree with the sentiment that something has to change to make Cena stronger against Brock. Even if it's just a psychological build. Perhaps Cena develops a new game plan and plays the match completely differently.

Cena shouldn't win though. Not after last time, it's just inconceivable that he could win. "Cena overcomes the odds" just has been presented as a physical impossibility in this one instance. However, they shouldn't just do another squash match, it would be unfair to do that two PPVs in a row. Gimmick match sounds like a good way to avoid this, but I hope it's a "high tier" gimmick like Cage or Last Man Standing rather than like Lumberjack or a CZW House of Ultraviolence and Light Tubes Deathmatch or whatever.

I hope Brock doesn't lose after just one month but I am not making a call on the victor yet.
 
1) guys this is easy to predict... Cena will return next week talk about how lesnar was the better man and their rematch will be a no dQ match or something then at NOC cena turns into ultra cena, kicks out of 3 f5 and does an AA on the steel steps and wins then by tying flair record and crowd hating but that is what wwe wants
 
Praying for Lesnar to kick Cena's ass again just so Lesnar's title reign can go on for all that much longer and isn't Cena shooting a movie right now? At least from my understanding he is so then why isn't Cena taking more time off? Or perhaps after Night of Champions he will take his time off to finish his movie? Either way the WWE if they're smart they will keep the belt on Lesnar but actually Cena giving Lesnar more of a fight this time around but still coming up short in the end against Brock
 
Seems way too soon to be looking at a rematch, no? This is the type of program that would require a much longer build-up, with Cena first having to portray the broken man who doubts his ability to ever again be a force in pro wrestling, winding the program out over half a year.

I figure it will be one of two things: either they look to really have Cena's ego shattered by having Brock easily beat him again......with Cena's ultimate redemption coming somewhere down the road.......or the part-time status of Brock comes into play and Cena gets his revenge sooner rather than later.

Especially in the latter scenario, enough time has simply not elapsed to make this as dynamic a program as it needs to be. What's the rush?

Look for a swerve; perhaps something like Cena backing out of the signed match because he doesn't feel he can measure up. That would make his crisis of confidence even more effective.
 
If Cena wins, who will be his next opponent? He just got out of a feud with Bray, has been in WAY too many feuds with Orton and I doubt they'll pull the plug on Ambrose vs Rollins anytime soon. Maybe Batista will return as a heel. But otherwise, is there anyone else?
 
I know it's only a "dark" section of SmackDown, but Cena came out to the crowd last night. Didn't even bother selling any of the injuries and sounded like he gave another one of his "I'll be back" speeches. What made it worse was that it was a pro-Cena crowd.

There is not enough time for this storyline to end at NOC. I'm praying they don't do a Lesnar was too overconfident and lost storyline. Or a rehash of Cena getting one shot in to knock Lesnar out.

I still think they used this match to sucker in those who didn't have the Network yet. Once they see more customers signing up, they'll have no reason to keep Lesnar anymore until his next predetermined date. That's just my conspiracy theory though.
 
I see many ways how to continue this feud even until Survivor Series the question is can WWE be smart enough, all they need to do is not overplay this storyline and keep it slow, like at Night of Champions in some sort of gimmick match, have Heyman or Authority help Lesnar to retain, some of you may say that will make him look weak, well how about in No DQ match have Cena almost AA Lesnar on entrance stage, and when it looks Cena is about to do something crazy have Heyman do the low blow or something and then Cena's plan backfires and Lesnar hits the F5 on the stage, after the PPV the next following weeks have Cena complain and demand a fair rematch, have him destroy Kane or other ones until he's about to AA stephanie on the commentary table, HHH comes out at says ok you have your fair rematch, at Hell in a Cell PPV, until Cena gets that rematch build him angry and let him destroy authority members like Randy(hes not doing anything anyway), Kane.. When the Hell in a cell ppv comes have 20 minutes match at least with Cena looking like he has a chance, the finish could be on the roof of the Cell where they both deliver finisher's and both can't get up, match ends up no contest, but on next Raw authority claims that Lesnar is still the champ...
 
If Cena wins the title back at NOC then was was the point of that demolition job at SummerSlam?

Lesnar defends and beats Cena in a more even contest. He then walks away. He's a former UFC Champ and he used to go months without defending. He can easily use that as an excuse. Him leaving will also freshen up the headline scene whilst they find an intermin champion before his return.
 
But if Lesnar retains here at Night of Champions, it begs the question of if Lesnar will work Hell in a Cell considering he is still WWE World Heavyweight Champion by then? Lesnar will have to defend his title inside Hell in a Cell and looking at Brock's career he has been inside Hell in a Cell only once before and who did he face when he was inside Hell in a Cell? That's right he faced The Undertaker inside Hell in a Cell, the very same man who Brock beat at WrestleMania 30 ending his undefeated streak being The One as in 21-1 so if Lesnar has to defend his title inside Hell in a Cell then I wonder who would be his next opponent considering he beats Cena at Night of Champions to retain his title?
 
This looks like it is headed to an I Quit match which I can more than get behind. I was pretty confused why Lesnar vs Cena at Summerslam wasn't no dq or anything given their past encounter but it made sense after the match.

Brock isn't dropping the title here. It will be a more even match because Cena will come in with a different strategy, and if a no dq stipulation is added, he will have much more opportunities with weapons at his disposal. Cena isn't quitting so Brock will probably lay him out with 3 F-5's to end the match or have him in a kimura for a while until he passes out making the referee stop the match.

Either way I see Lesnar retaining by the ref stopping the match so Cena can keep his never give up monikor but make Lesnar look even more like a killing machine.

I see Rollins coming out and looking apprehensive but eventually cashing it in, the ref rings the bell, Ambrose hits the ring and distracts Rollins, Brock F-5's Rollins to pin him and end the show leading to Ambrose vs Rollins in the Cell and Brock taking a hiatus until the Rumble to face Batista.
 
If Rollins cashes in his briefcase on Lesnar he would have to have a death wish because Lesnar would really make Rollins pay if he even tried to cash in so if Rollins were smart he wouldn't cash in but would rather just bide his time and wait for the right moment to cash in
 
Rollins may cash in and be the first guy ever to lose it, but it's unlikely since him and Brock are both heels

:disappointed: Both John Cena and Damien Sandow have cashed in and lost.

The only way this match works is if it's an I Quit Match. Cena gets locked in the Kimura and passes out from the pain but never quits. The ref stops the match and Lesnar retains. Cena takes his first loss in an I Quit Match which keeps Lesnar looking strong but Cena never officially quits which keeps Cena looking strong.

And to all those asking who Lesnar faces at HIAC...I don't think it's required for him to defend at the show. It's a gimmick ppv and will basically sell itself; especially if Ambrose and Rollins have it out the the cell.

If anybody brings up the 30 day clause about defending the title, I refer you to the quoted comment in my post. It just shows the memory length of an average fan.
 
:disappointed: Both John Cena and Damien Sandow have cashed in and lost.

The only way this match works is if it's an I Quit Match. Cena gets locked in the Kimura and passes out from the pain but never quits. The ref stops the match and Lesnar retains. Cena takes his first loss in an I Quit Match which keeps Lesnar looking strong but Cena never officially quits which keeps Cena looking strong.

And to all those asking who Lesnar faces at HIAC...I don't think it's required for him to defend at the show. It's a gimmick ppv and will basically sell itself; especially if Ambrose and Rollins have it out the the cell.

Okay even so even if Lesnar doesn't defend the WWE World Heavyweight Championship inside the Cell then if he is not at the PPV then he is going to have to work Survivor Series because it is a "Big 4" PPV
 
Okay even so even if Lesnar doesn't defend the WWE World Heavyweight Championship inside the Cell then if he is not at the PPV then he is going to have to work Survivor Series because it is a "Big 4" PPV

We don't know what type of deal may or may not have been worked out. I could definitely see Brock defending every other month. Work Night of Champs, take off HIAC (because it's a gimmick and sells itself), work Survivor Series and take off TLC (because it's a gimmick and sells itself), work Rumble and take off Elimination Chamber (because it's a gimmick and sells itself) and then finally drop the strap at Wrestlemania.
 
We don't know what type of deal may or may not have been worked out. I could definitely see Brock defending every other month. Work Night of Champs, take off HIAC (because it's a gimmick and sells itself), work Survivor Series and take off TLC (because it's a gimmick and sells itself), work Rumble and take off Elimination Chamber (because it's a gimmick and sells itself) and then finally drop the strap at Wrestlemania.

Then that definitely works with Brock only working "Big 4" PPVs it not only keeps Lesnar fresh but at the same time though it does kind of take away from the gimmicky PPVs when you think about it especially if the champion is not there defending the title
 
I don't see this happening can't remember the last ppv where the title was not defended at main event, I think he will defend it even at gimmick ppv's if the opponent is not Cena it's going to be squash matches, so he could look more dominant until Wrestlemania season comes, I guess and then Reigns will win rumble or Rock will return
 
Cena will win the title at NOC, tie Ric Flair's record, and the IWC goes nuckin' futs. I guarantee it.
 
I don't see this happening can't remember the last ppv where the title was not defended at main event

Just happened this year when Daniel Bryan was unable to defend his title at Payback and the main event turned out to be Evoultion vs The Shield.

If they have everything worked out behind the scenes with Leanar's contract, then I see Cena getting closer to beating Brock as compared to his SummerSlam outing but ultimately coming up short once again and Lesnar still looks just as strong and just as dominant as ever.
 
This is going to suck either way.

Cena Wins: The year long build-up given to Brock's reign as he conquered the streak and destroyed Cena in their first round has been wasted. Brock only holds the belt for the month, which will be so lame.

Brock wins: Cena's revenge story ends in tragedy. Nobody defends the belt for months, which is especially jarring considering how Daniel Bryan was stripped specifically for that possibility.

There are hopeful possibilities to come with this. Maybe Brock will make part time appearances every month and defend at every PPV until he drops it at Wrestlemania. Maybe Cena will be so broken up that he'd snap and turn heel. But I don't see either of those happening.
 
Definitely see Brock winning and retaining his WWE World Heavyweight Championship against Cena but this time Cena will actually make it a contest by actually fighting valiantly but to no avail because Brock will come out on top regardless and when he does then Lesnar will make part-time appearances every month from then on with his next title defense being at Hell in a Cell where he will end up having a new opponent and the trend will continue until he drops the title at Mania which would be even better going forward
 

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