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WWE 2012 Hall Of Fame *OFFICIAL THREAD* - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

Was the video package adequate?

  • yes

  • no

  • left out a few career highs but all and all got the point accross


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I like the idea of Iron Mike going into the celebrity wing. He's far more relevant to WWE than Drew Carey, and really he's a perfect example of what celebrity involvement in WWE should be. The HoF is looking really good this year
 
I don't think he will be the HBK or Edge of his year of induction (unless he returns full time and wins more championships) but he will eventually end up in the hall of fame, personally I don't rate him, but he'll end up in the hall of fame.
 
Batista was a multiple time world champ, a member of Evolution, a Royal Rumble winner, the face of Smackdown for years, and was in the main event of Wrestlemania twice. That's a pretty impressive resume, and I think he is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame.
 
His most memorable story/segment was when he was in a wheelchair and retired. He was annoying to watch in the ring and his promos sucked. Nowadays, titles don't mean as much. Santino was a IC champ. SMH!
 
As much as I hate Batista, as much as I think he is one of the world's greatest douchebags, I think he is a HOF'er. If I was in charge, it would be a hell fucking no, but like others have said, Vince McMahon put Koko B. Ware in there, so there is no logical reason that Batista wouldn't get in too. Batista's resume is certainly better than some of the other guys getting in.
 
he had a short career? Didn't he wrestle for 7 or 8 years in wwe. isn't that as long as Stone Cold and the Rock were in WWE? the only thing that he sucked at was on the mic, which he got a bit better at in the end. but in the ring he was a monster and demolished everyone. batista vs lesnar would have been awesome.


-Batista Vs. Lesnar - OVW

As much as I hate to say it, yes. Batista should be in the HOF. He holds a great deal of accomplishments and had a serious fan following. I myself was never a big fan of his, but the guy accomplished a lot in the time he was there, so yes.
 
Gotta admit that this is shaping up to be an amazing class. The 4 Horsemen sells the thing for me alone and its a well deserved induction. Mil Mascaras is a Mexican wrestling legend and deserves his spot as well as Yokozuna if they pull the trigger on him. Even Mike Tyson is deserving of his spot. Edge does too, I just wish they would have some kind of system in place like MLB does. They should be inactive (not on the road full-time) for at least 5 years before even being thought of being put on the ballot. Other than that. Looking to be a great HOF class this year.
 
i think its great tysons being inducted, am a big boxing fan as well as wwe, liked his cameo with dx so why not induct him, have any other celebs been inducted. LT Cyndi Lauper etc
 
Apparently, Windham is going in as the 4th Horseman along with Flair, Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard.

Anyone who doesn't think Batista belongs is probably a biased IWC fan of vanilla midgets like Daniel Bryan.

With all that said, the HOF is illegitimate while it doesn't have the GOAT - Macho Man Randy Savage. It's more entertaining to watch old YouTube clips of Savage promos and matches than to watch the current product, that's for sure!
 
He was only in the WWE/WWF for a short time but he totally deserves to be in the HOF! The guy is a legend in Japan.

His Brazos Valley Backbreaker was copied by Jericho AKA Walls of Jericho/Lion Tamer, also others named as other things "Boston Crab, etc"

All Japan Pro Wrestling
AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (4 times)[11]
AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (8 times) – with Terry Gordy (2), Genichiro Tenryu (3), Dan Spivey (1), Ted DiBiase (1) and Gary Albright (1)[12]
NWA International Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[13]
NWA International Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Ron Bass[14]
NWA United National Championship (1 time)[15]
PWF World Heavyweight Championship (4 times)[16]
PWF World Tag Team Championship (4 times) – with Bruiser Brody (1), Ted DiBiase (2) and Austin Idol (1)[17]
Champion's Carnival (1992, 1993)[18]
World's Strongest Tag Team League (1983) – with Bruiser Brody[18]
World's Strongest Tag Team League (1985) – with Ted DiBiase[18]
World's Strongest Tag Team League (1988) – with Terry Gordy[18]
World's Strongest Tag Team League (1989) – with Genichiro Tenryu[18]
January 2 Korakuen Hall Heavyweight Battle Royal (1994)[18]

American Wrestling Association
AWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[19]

Cauliflower Alley Club
Other honoree (1996)[20]

Continental Wrestling Association
CWA International Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[21]

Georgia Championship Wrestling
NWA Columbus Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[22]
NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship (2 times)[23]
NWA Georgia Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Tommy Rich (2) and Ole Anderson (1)[24]

Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling / World Championship Wrestling
NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (1 time)1[25]
NWA World Tag Team Championship (Mid-Atlantic version) (1 time) – with Ole Anderson[26]

NWA Big Time Wrestling
NWA Texas Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Killer Tim Brooks[27]

NWA Tri-State
NWA North American Heavyweight Championship (Tri-State version) (1 time)[28]
NWA United States Tag Team Championship (Tri-State version) (1 time) – with Frank Goodish[29]

National Wrestling Federation
NWF Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[30]

Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum
Class of 2010[31]

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI Match of the Year (1976) vs. Bruno Sammartino on April 26
PWI Most Hated Wrestler of the Year (1976)
PWI ranked him #7 of the 100 best tag teams of the "PWI Years" with Bruiser Brody in 2003
PWI ranked him #16 of the 500 best singles of the "PWI Years" in 2003

Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards
5 Star Match (1984) with Bruiser Brody vs. Dory and Terry Funk on December 8
5 Star Match (1993) vs. Kenta Kobashi on July 29
Tag Team of the Year (1982) with Ole Anderson
Best Brawler (1985, 1990)
Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame (Class of 1996)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WZShKF6_I
 
I've been thinking - should the WWE institute a waiting period before someone can be considered for the Hall of Fame? I look at Edge as the most recent example here. He is being inducted almost immediately after his retirement mid-last year. I'm not suggesting that Edge is not a Hall of Famer, but a lot of times we as people let the initial wave of emotion and fandom get in the way of someones true accomplishments.

I think the NFL is doing it the right way. There is a 5-year wait before that person is considered eligible for HOF status. Any thoughts, or am I just giving too much credence to this since the WWE HOF is, in many peoples eyes, meaningless.
 
I've been thinking - should the WWE institute a waiting period before someone can be considered for the Hall of Fame? I look at Edge as the most recent example here. He is being inducted almost immediately after his retirement mid-last year. I'm not suggesting that Edge is not a Hall of Famer, but a lot of times we as people let the initial wave of emotion and fandom get in the way of someones true accomplishments.

I think the NFL is doing it the right way. There is a 5-year wait before that person is considered eligible for HOF status. Any thoughts, or am I just giving too much credence to this since the WWE HOF is, in many peoples eyes, meaningless.
You posted that Edge is a Hall of Famer, then why shouldn't he be inducted? If he's a Hall of Famer now, he will be a Hall of Famer in five years. There's no reason to wait. It would be massively different if he was still wrestling or even still capable of wrestling another match but Edge is done for. He isn't coming back for some one last send off match or anything; he will never be medically cleared again. If he's a Hall of Famer now, he will be in five year's time. There’s no need to wait.
 
undertakeramerican-badass.jpg

Now there is a reason why I used his American Badass pic here. Allow me to elaborate:



First of all, this latest storyline of Taker's streak being treated as a commodity and something valuable enough to keep intact is brilliant, and gives a brand new spin to the whole streak saga. Kudos WWE!

Now then, in the latest vigenette we saw Taker chopping his locks in an act of...well I dunno what it was but it was certain he was wearing a wig on his return having shaved his head some time back, and now they are incorporating that in the storyline in the most dramatic way possible. So it could be a return back to his Badass gimmick for the last run, where Taker can talk a lot more and be more vocal and normal in another feud with Hunter.

But it begs the question, could all this also be done so Taker is inducted into the HOF?

I will harken the memory of Taker coming out to pay tribute to Flair on his retirement night AFTER Raw had gone off the air, it only came on the DVD. This can be interpreted as to protect his mystique as someone who is, well still confined to the world of the Darkside kayfabe.

Also, I have NEVER (I maybe wrong) seen Taker in the HOF audience. I can only say that for someone of his stature who deserves to be in the first row or inducting somebody, he is still protected or rather, his character is.


But now that he MAYBE going to his Houston roots again, could this all be prepping us for his last match and possible induction into the Hall Of Fame this year?








Good God, I've rambled. Don't make me feel lonely, discuss.
 
Could Undertaker Be Heading Into The HOF This Year?
I don't think he will be inducted this year. Edge is this year's HOF leader and Taker should have one of his own.

Also, I don't like him retiring as the american bad ass. He started as the deadman and he should end it as the deadman. That is his best gimmick and probably the greatest gimmick in the WWE. I don't see a reason why he should revert to ryding motorcycles. It would be much more epic if he stays as the deadman and then inducted to the HOF.
 
I dont think he'll return to the American Badass before the end of his career, but I do think he'll get a bit more "human" than he is now. This could be the time for that. But if it's not now, then I still think that it will happen eventually. He can still remain as the Deadman, but just a more realistic, talkative version. Not as "phenom"-like. Like I said, they may even be going that route already, with 'Taker less focused on mystique and more focused on vengeance against HHH (I think the cutting of his hair represented this a bit- him refocusing, getting even more serious). This very well could be his last match, and if it is, I'd expect him to go more of the human route, and step away from the supernatural Deadman that's he been for the past few years. But that's just my prediction from the sense I can make from it.

As for the H.o.F. notion... I'm not so sure. I think they'd probably do it the year after his last match, not the same year. When Flair was inducted BEFORE his last match, the 99.9% chance of him losing/retiring became a total 100%, which kinda sucked in my opinion. They shouldn't go the same route as 'Taker, no matter what the outcome of the match is. They should definitely hold off, and build up his H.o.F. induction (whenever it is) for quite some time before the H.o.F. ceremony. He certainly deserves it.
 
Well from a WWE standpoint: Undertaker > Mike Tyson, Undertaker > Mil Mascaras, Undertaker > Four Horsemen and as much as I hate to say it, Undertaker > Edge. See what I'm getting at? Undertaker is a huge enough name with in WWE's History to be the first inductee in the WWE's Hall of Fame whatever year he goes in. Chances are, if Undertaker was going into the WWE Hall of Fame this year, the decision would've already been made and we would have already heard about it. I don't believe going back to the American Badass character would necessarily mean he's going to be inducted. If anything, The Deadman gimmick deserves to be the Hall of Fame more so. I don’t know, I really can’t see Undertaker coming out as the Deadman, giving a speech about his career and leaving. You may be on to something. However, it’s not completely out of the question. Remember Undertaker coming out after Ric Flair’s retirement? He acted completely human even standing on the ramp with his fellow WWE Superstars clapping as Flair cried in the ring. So the American Badass Return doesn’t really mean anything in regards to ‘Taker being inducted.
 
The wrestling icon Macho Man Randy Savage died May 20th, 2011, it was on a friday. Savage's death got media attention nationwide. In the wrestling world as soon as Randy Savage's passing news spread. Lifelong wrestling fans has demanded WWE chairman Vince McMahon to put the long overdue Macho Man into his hall of fame.

Phones have been blowing up about this. Wrestling colummist have been receiving various emails about if the Macho Man Randy Savage isn't inducted into the WWE hall of fame. There would be a potential riot in Miami that Wrestlemania weekend. All three top wrestling promotions (WWE, TNA, ROH) will be in Florida (Randy Savage's home state) April fools weekend. But we can only hope for the best down in Miami if the Macho Man is or isn't inducted into the WWE hall of fame class of 2012.

Some wrestling fans (and wrestlers) have even taken it as far as boycotting the WWE hall of fame this year as well. Does Vince McMahon hold that much of a grudge against Randy Savage even after death?? So do you think or believe that there will be a riot if the Macho Man isn't inducted into the WWE hall of fame?

Owen Hart can't be inducted into the WWE hall of fame due to legal matters. But Vince McMahon can't stay sleep on the Macho Man Randy Savage, OHHHH YEAHHHH DIG IT!!!!
 
At some point in time, he will be inducted.

He should not however, be inducted at threat of a "riot" which would be incredibly disrespectful of the "rioters" towards the HoF itself (ok...maybe that particular body is not ..high class, or what have you) and towards Mr. Poffo's memories as well. He wouldn't want a riot, etc etc.

And...Vince can stay mad as long as he wants , I certainly would be IF the rumors were true and he did bang Steph before she was of legal age.
 
Ron Simmons has been announced as the latest inductee into the Hall of Fame. I can honestly say that he truly deserves this spot. For those of you who want to believe Farooq was good for nothing more than going around saying "DAMN!" then let me remind you that Simmons has done a lot more than you'll ever realize. For starters, when he became the first African American world champion, he opened the door for so many stars of today. There would never have been a Mark Henry or Dwayne Johnson if Simmons hadn't kicked down the doors and been given the world title.

Not only that, but he was again a key part in bringing in new stars as he was the founding father of Nation of Domination where guys like Mark Henry, D-Lo Brown, Papa Shango, and Dwayne Johnson would get their start. He later went on to form a dominant tag team known as the Acolytes (later known as Acolytes Protection Agency) and become a key part of making the Attitude Era tag division worth something.

Farooq, in my opinion, should've been given a much better departure from WWE in the past but unfortunately he faded without a trace, only appearing in one off situations. Even still, I can't wait to see him inducted.
 
He belongs. I won't say it should have happened earlier, but if anyone belongs, it's Ron.

This guy was a bad ass, plain and simple. To an elementary school student, Doom was terrifying. First black world heavyweight champion, leader of the Nation of Domination, the APA, DAMN... all magnificent. One of the truly underrated workers from his era.

This is my favorite induction of the year, no doubt.
 
Vince is clearly all about business! so the way you get back at the man is to hit him where it hurts the most? his wallet, once he see's dropped numbers in attendance at live shows
as well as his weekly running shows

he'll come around to seeing that his snub cost him deeply leaving him no choice but to induct him to his rightful place in wrestling history
 
I am of mixed feelings about this.
I believe that Mach definitely should be in the Hall of Fame{should've been in before Bret or HBK} .
At the same time, He should be at the very least , the number two inductee.

This year we already have Edge, The Four Horsemen, and Ron Simmons going in.

All of these individuals[or groups] have a fresher impact on
the younger viewers. And who buys the Tshirts ?
 
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It has been announced that Ron Simmons is to be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame as a member of its 2012 class. The 2012 class includes such noteables as the c. 1989 incarnation of the Four Horsemen. My main issue with the video package for Simmons stems from the fact that its too short and does not go in depth. We start with him at FSU and I am quite pleased to see my boy in his prime running accross that grid iron and then lifting those huge weights and sporting that permed shag but Simmons' time at FSU ends in 1980 and then cuts to him winning the WCW World title from Vader in 1992 but a lot is missing from that 12 year jump. His induction into the Orange Bowl HOF, his number being only the third in Fla. St. University history to be retired in 1988, his run with the Cleveland Browns, and his time in the USFL were he played with Lex Luger. The dominance that he showed as one half of Doom with Butch Reed and its positive impact on the NWA's tag division should had been highlighted as well as their honor as being WCW's first tag team champions. His time in the WWF was pretty much summed up with his reign as a beer drinking bar hopping mercenary with Bradshaw (JBL) and then his time as the one worded wonder.. We don't see him fighting for the ECW title, we don't see him with the WWF tag gold, we don't see his work in the Undertaker's Ministry as half of the Acolytes and we don't see the bouts and fueds he fought in as head of the Nation of Domination and we don't see how he impacted Rocky Maivia's rise thru the ranks. Then it cuts to his influance on other Black wrestlers but we don't see footage of the Rock, Lashley, R-Truth, or Shelton Benjamin.. People viewing aren't going to be able to put his contributions in context and I suspect the vast majority of viewers don't even know him or even a twinkle in their dad's eye in 1992.. Some of these brats can barely remember the first few "DAMN!" segments!! What do you guys think? I think it was a poor excuse for a reflection on his career. Any other opinions?
 
I watched this video, and I thought to myself, it's so much more that he did in his career. I remember his early feuds in Nation of Domination, I mean come on, he was a house hold name (for wrestling fans in the early 90s in the black community). I remember everybody around the way would watch raw during the feud that he had with Ahmed (spelling) Johnson and talk about that all week. Yes APA was cool, but his solo career wasn't a flash in the pan, and as you stated, it was plenty of other Black American Wrestlers in which he did influence.
 
I felt it was a shame they left out all his highlights as a member of Doom they were a good tag team. They held the tag titles for 9 months beating teams such as the Steiners and Rock N' Roll Express they feuded with The Four Horsemen and never lost the titles to them.
 

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