**MERGED** WWE Hall of Fame 2013 Discussion (Keep it in here!!!!)

The WWE HoF is a work, that's why they don't 'just go ahead and induct him anyway'. I don't quite understand how Madden, who considers himself a great mind of wrestling, doesn't get this. If the WWE HoF was a shoot then, let,s face it, Koko B Ware, Pete Rose, Bob Barker etc would not be in and Savage, Samartino, Mr.T( if you want a Celeb) would be. Vince puts in who Vince wants to put in and has an agenda. If Vince thought he could gain something by inducting Samartino against his will, he'd do it.
 
First off I'd like to preface by saying two things.

First, I don't think the WWE Hall of Fame is as much as a joke as some would like to believe it is. It's the WWE HOF, not the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame & I think some people need to realize this. Also I think their "Celebrity Wing" makes perfect sense. So while I would also have liked to have seen Savage in WAY before Drew Carey, I understand why Carey is in there & I don't see any reason to be butthurt over it. 99% of people I see on WZ disagree with every WWE list anyways. You can't please everyone.

Second, I enjoy, respect, & usually agree with Mark Madden's columns & statements. While most find him arrogant or too forward & 'preachy', I think he usually makes sense & is almost always pointed in the right general directions.

So with that being said & seeing what Madden is getting at, I strongly disagree with him. & pretty much for one & only one reason, If Bruno doesn't want to go in or Savages family says that Savage had other wishes, they should respect that. END OF STORY!

As much as I think Savage needs to be in the HOF or Bruno is just being a stubborn old man about the whole situation, with the celebrities excluded, the HOF deals with wrestlers/performers who have passed away & wrestlers/performers who are Legends and supposed to be gaining a special honor. If they don't want it, have other wishes, or don't perceive the WWE HOF as honorable then they shouldn't be forced to comply with anything & they shouldn't use their image without consent.

And the very idea of just seeing current WWE talent or employees induct & talk about the wrestlers, without the performer or their families approval or being present, just sickens me. It reminded me of the only thing wrong with the 'Macho Madness' DVD, it was hosted my Matt Striker & Maria. WTF?!?! Who the hell are they to speak on the life & times of the Macho Man?!?! I'm sorry but there are a million flaws I could think of in 'just inducting people', besides the fact of having someone who is annoying & sucks like Maria talk about the legacy of a performer she never knew & probably had to read cue cards for.

BOTTOM LINE: The performer should have to agree to go in & be present for the ceremony. If they have passed, their family should have to agree & be present.
 
"Owning the right to your character" just means you can use the name and gimmick wherever you go, and WWE can't give your name/gimmick to someone else, like they did with the fake Razor Ramon and fake Diesel in 1996.

Inducting someone into the Hall of Fame without his/her consent is perfectly fine as long as WWE makes it clear that he/she won't actually be at the ceremony.

I don't think this is accurate. You can't promote something you do not own for financial gain. I'd be surprised if Sammartino did not own his own gimmick. WWE only does the HoF to make money.

I am sick of fans demanding everything happen in WWE. If you really just want to see these legends in HoFs then you aren't paying attention enough. If you only want to see it in WWE then spare me the its for wrestling fans bs. You are just as greedy, self-involved and hard-headed as Vince and the talent that won't go in.
 
Induct his ass anyways. If the WWE wants to build a Legit Hall Of Fame then you need to have all the guys that deserve to be in it. It doesnt matter if Bruno is an asshole or not. There is no doubt that his accomplishments deserve to be recognized by the Hall Of Fame. If the WWE only puts guys that accept the award in it then itll lose respect because people will say if this is the hall of fame where is this guy and this guy, We should be able to go on WWE's Website and look at the Hall Of Fame and not see any guys missing that should be in it.

If Bruno wants to be an asshole so should Triple H and Vince. Call him up and say "Hey Bruno, your being inducted whether you like it or not so stop crying." The man is a legend that has a record that will never be broken.
 
Imagine the lawsuit WWE would have if they inducted Owen Hart without consent. Not sure if the same would happen with Savage and Bruno but they shouldn't chance it.
 
If Sammartino doesn't want in that badly then fuck it, trips should follow Vince's lead. No matter what he's accomplished it's just a HOF for wrestling anyway, not a huge deal. Not like they're "real" achievements anyway. If it were another sport.. then eh, sure.

Savage is a whole 'nother story though.
 
I like hearing Madden's podcast, and on this issue I agree with him on Bruno, not so much Randy. In either case, I would love to see Bruno and Randy Savage in.

The problem with Bruno is, he has turned them down many times. Bruno's contribution to WWWF was huge and he should be in their Hof. They've tried for quite some time to find common ground with Bruno but he flatly refuses to have anything to do with it. I would have no problem with putting him in after he passes on, even though it sort of depresses me to see it go down that way.

Randy Savage should have gone in while he was alive and he wasn't. WWE really dropped the ball (By WWE, I mean Vince) should have dropped his grudge against Randy, put him in and be done with it. Plenty of his fans were pissed that Randy wasn't in. I think this past WM in Florida would have been a great choice to induct him ssince he's from there (I believe). His case is pretty easy, as far as I know, it was his wish (according to Lanny Poffo, his brother) was to include the family, his father, Lanny and himself. Just put his entire family in with special focus on him and then you have goodwill with the fans and his family. Case closed. Now tbh, Randy should go in alone, Lanny Poffo has no business in there and I'm not sure his father has any business there, and I'm not sure he said he wants his family in or not, but if those were his wishes, then honour those wishes and move on.

Putting them in without their involvement is just a bad idea for all involved. It sucks for the fans who want to celebrate the achievement and see the inductee at the ceremony and cheer them on, it sucks for the person and/or family who want to participate. That being said, I can see them doing it for Bruno, not Randy. Bruno just refuses to go in under any condition and Randy (if it's true) wanted it to be a family affair. If they go that route with Bruno, then wait til he passes, reach out to his family and see if they bite, if not, induct him explain to the crowd, no one was available and say you're accepting the award on their behalf.
 
I don't think this is accurate. You can't promote something you do not own for financial gain. I'd be surprised if Sammartino did not own his own gimmick.

Yes, you can.

In July 1997, when WCW was really hot, the WWF aired a special about the history of SummerSlam after a Raw episode. When they advertised it during Raw, almost every guy who was shown and had his name mentioned in the commerical was someone who was on WCW Nitro that same night (Hogan, Hennig, Hall, Nash).

It's not just WWE, either. Last year, after CM Punk's pipebomb promo, TNA tried to take advantage of the buzz by uploading some of Punk's TNA matches from 2003 and 2004 to their video-on-demand website for subscribers to watch. They advertised it online, using the name "CM Punk" even though they don't own it, and it was perfectly legal.

So if WWE, at their HoF ceremony, wants to show a video package about Bruno Sammartino and then have, say, Jim Ross give a speech about Bruno's career, they can do that as long as they make it clear beforehand that Bruno won't be there in person.
 
Honestly, it doesn't really matter. Bruno is a very historically imporant figure in wrestling and his legacy will live regardless of a WWE HoF induction. The people who know how important he is, know. The people who want to find out, will find out.

Bruno doesn't want to be inducted. Bruno and the WWE have a bittersweet relationship. It is most certainly accurate that WWE could go ahead and induct Bruno at their discretion... but I'm not sure they want to do that and I'm not sure that there's any point.

A WWE HoF induction for Bruno does not really matter because your success and recognition does not depend on whether you are inducted or not. It would be just one more accolade and honor for a man who has many. General concensus (including the WWE, whether they like him or not) is already aware of how great he is.
 
The fact that pro wrestling has a HOF at all is a joke. I have no problems giving recognition to those from the past that have had an impact on pro wrestling but how can you induct people in a "sport" that is predetermined?

But since I have no control over that I will say that the WWE should honor Sammartino's request. Sammartino is very bitter and they should just leave him alone.
 
I think WWE needs to honor the wishes of Sammartino and leave it at that! The man is a hardass someone on here said it and their right about that. Sammartino doesnt give no quarter nor take one.

Everyone on here agrees one hundred percent that he should have been in the first HOF but if him and vinnie mac dont get along then let it be. I just dont get it. As far as Savage goes,well i think thats a different story. Is there any written proof that the only way savage goes in is to induct the whole family?

All of us remember Savage as one of the best in his era theres no doubt there. If the only way to get savage into the HOF is to induct the family go ahead and do it! Have 95%of the focus on Macho Man and give respect to Lanny and Angelo and everyone is happy IMO
 
What would the point of inducting Sammartino be if he or a family member was not there to give his speech? Let's all keep in mind what the WWE Hall of Fame is. It's a show meant to sell tickets. That's all. There's not even a physical building. People might buy a ticket to watch Bruno give his speech but no one would care if they just showed a three minute video if Bruno wasn't there. Besides, from the fans' point of view the HOF is meant to honor somebody and show them respect. How is doing something that somebody is so against honoring them at all? If WWE ever did build an actual hall of fame museum then I think they would have at least some info on Bruno in there whether he was an actual member or not. Just like Pete Rose's records are mentioned in the MLB HOF even though Rose is not a member. Bruno may actually be building a more memorable legacy by refusing induction than accepting it. I think he's very outdated in his thinking but he's not going to be forced to do something he doesn't want to do. Would showing a video and declaring Bruno a hall of famer really give anyone any satisfaction given the circumstances surrounding an unwanted induction?
 
I fail to see what the problem is with inducting Lanny and Angelo. I mean come on, this is the same wrestling Hall of Fame where they inducted Pete Rose, Bob Uecker, Bob Barker, and Drew Carey. Nobody takes it seriously.
 
First, let me say I generally like and agree with most of what Madden writes. He's been following the business professionally since the 1980s. In Pittsburgh I always the newspaper interviews he did with guys like Ric Flair, Terry Funk, & Shawn Michaels, among others. He gets the business, a soap opera where the storyline drives interest and the climax is the match. An OK match from a phsyical stand point is a classic with the right storyline (Hogan-Andre). A great match with a lousy or weak set up is a great athletic accomplishment few fans watch and fewer remember (Brett Hart vs The Lazor Tron guy, Nitro 1998).

A WWE HOF, especially if they are serious about doing a physical HOF like the NFL & MLB have, really is a sham without Bruno. Imagine the MLB HOF without Babe Ruth, or Ted Williams, or Cy Young. Imagine the NFL HOF without Johnny Unitas, Vince Lombardi, Jerry Rice. Regardless of wether or not you think Bruno was a bit bland, that he couldnt do as well crossing territories as Harley Race or Dusty Rhodes for example, or if you see him as virtual wrestling God, his accomplishments speak for themselves.

Bruno was the centerpiece for the entire company's creation. In essence he was bigger than Hulk Hogan was to the WWE machine. Without Bruno as an extremely popular, gate drawing, attraction there was no WWE. Before Hulka-Mania, WWE was doing quite well. They simply had not expanded as a global company and focussed mainly on their territorial area of the US. They were making money, lots of it, Hogan's success didnt save them, they were doing quite well, Hogan's success did provide the catalyst for VKM Jr's national and eventually international expansion plans. Fact is, thanks to TBS, Jim Crockett Jr was thinking much the same thing but his execution and marketing were not equal to McMahon's, although many would say he had a better roster and offered better stories and definately better matches.

Realistically, since the 1960s as pro wrestling, thanks to local TV, became a major entertainment attraction in the US, rivaling concerts, etc as a draw in mid size through arena size venues (and occassionally stadiums), Bruno's importance to the industry through his importance to WWE's growth is comparable to any super star of the past 50 years. If Hogan & Flair are absolute no brainers as HOF'ers, Bruno is right with them. Maybe Bruno did not reach the international acclaim those two did, he was not the marketing dream Hogan was or the influential figure Flair was, but his star shined brighter for a decade than just about anyone's in the US wrestling scene. Unlike guys like Harley Race who did a trememdous job carrying an established successful promotion, Bruno had to carry a brand new struggling promotion, a promotion who's very existence depended on his success as their top star and attraction.

Also living in Pgh (Bruno's hometwon) I am very familiar with his story and his long standing dislike for VM Jr. From his criticism of Hogan's drawing power and lack of wrestling skill, his accusations that Flair relied too heavily on certain spots in matches, and his contention that VM blackballed his son over drug issues while turning a blind eye to multiple other wrestlers on the roster with similair or worse issues, blackballing him only because Bruno refused to keep going on the road to help arena business, I've read and followed this for years. Bruno has also been a very outspoken critic of both the cartoon Disney-like promotional style of the Rock & Wrestling 1980s era and even more so the adult oriented, more vulgar late 90s Attitude/Monday Night Wars era, critical of the 80s as an unrealistic portrayl that made the performers look weak and the late 90s as being a bad influence on the many children who watch the product. On some things I agree with him, others I think he sounds bitter, and although VM Jr has never addressed it knowing what a cut throat industry this is (even more so back then) I can believe there is at least some truth in the David Sammartino story.

In the end, Bruno would probably sue WWE if they used his name or likeness in anyway associated with promoting or marketing the HOF. Certainly his inclusion and in a physical building any sort of display in his honor would be a draw for WWE and in that sense I would expect Bruno to seek litigation. With that in mind he probably will never be officially inducted in the HOF, a sad fact, especially when you consider Vince has put aside personall issues with the likes of Brett Hart & Dusty Rhodes among others to see them inducted (both derserving, although I say clearly as someone who is not a Hart fan).

As for references to Savage, is there some verification that his family wants to make sure Lanny & Angelo are inducted as well before Randy can go in ? Who ever said this or reported on it ? Fact is, Lanny is in no way deserving of a HOF spot, he was a semi entertaining mid card talent for a short period of time, mostly keeping a spot due to his association with Randy. If Lanny Poffo goes in then Brutus Beefcake cant be far behind due to his association with Hogan. Maybe Kenny Dykstra should be inducted as well, he did feud with both DX & Ric Flair and he was a tag team partner of Edge, all HOF'ers.

And Ultimate Warrior ?? Really ?? I know some non wrestling personalities have been inducted as part of the so called "celebrity" wing, Pete Rose, Mike Tyson, etc, simply for media attention. For the most part the wrestlers however were all major long term contributors to the industry. Warrior had a great run circa 1988-90. That was it. His 1992 re appearance and subsequent fued with Papa Shango was a bust, his injuring Flair and forcing him off the road derailed any chances of him getting the World Title, and his brief returns in 1996 & 1998 produced few moments worth mentioning. After his initial two year career peak (and it was a great two year peak), he was rarely around and spent little time as major factor. Goldberg had an equalling compelling run 97-99, including high profile wins over Hogan, Sting, Giant, & DDP. He also had major feuds vs Triple H & Evolution and Brock Lesnar, main eventing muliple PPVs and beating Trips for the World Title during his WWE run, which lasted about as long as Warrior's 92, 96, & 98 returns combined. If Warrior goes into the HOF based on 18 months and one WrestleMania where Hogan carried him, then Goldberg should be a shoe in with The Streak, The GA Dome Title Win, the mammoth Starrcade 98 Main Event, beating Tiple H at the height of his run, WCW & WWE Championships. I'd love to see someone argue the merits of Warrior being a worthy HOF'er while contending Goldberg is not.

Personally I dont think either of them should be in, but Goldberg is a better candidate.
 
Yes, you can.

In July 1997, when WCW was really hot, the WWF aired a special about the history of SummerSlam after a Raw episode. When they advertised it during Raw, almost every guy who was shown and had his name mentioned in the commerical was someone who was on WCW Nitro that same night (Hogan, Hennig, Hall, Nash).

It's not just WWE, either. Last year, after CM Punk's pipebomb promo, TNA tried to take advantage of the buzz by uploading some of Punk's TNA matches from 2003 and 2004 to their video-on-demand website for subscribers to watch. They advertised it online, using the name "CM Punk" even though they don't own it, and it was perfectly legal.

So if WWE, at their HoF ceremony, wants to show a video package about Bruno Sammartino and then have, say, Jim Ross give a speech about Bruno's career, they can do that as long as they make it clear beforehand that Bruno won't be there in person.

I dont know if he has trademarked it but it was almost unheard of for wrestlers to "own" their names or gimmicks before the 1980s. In 1989 WWE sued Ricky Steamboat oer his use of "The Dragon" nickname and corressponding representation of himself as Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat with same name, mannerisms, wrestling style, essentially the same character, he had protrayed in WWE (he was wrestling for the NWA at this time). Steamboat proved, thanks in large part to the NWA video library that the character, name, etc were his creation before he wrestled for WWE, that the simply promoted him as basically the same character he had portrayed since the late 70s in the NWA when they signed him circa 1985. Steamboat won the suit. After that time if WWE created a new gimmick for a performer they trademarked it. However, after awhile if a performer establsihed himself as a major star they could negotiate for rights to the gimmick as part of their compensation. Eventually Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage got trademarks on their nicknames, etc, for instance, meaning they could promote themselves as the same characters seen in WWE regardless of what projects (movies, autograph signings, etc) or promotions (WCW) they worked for. WWE initially did not refer to Ric Flair as "The Nature Boy" because they were unsure if WCW owned a trademark on it although they felt confidant Flair could prove his name anc character were his creation (much like Steamboat) if it came up. Flair never changed his name or appearance or basic character but he was initially billed as "The Real World's Champion" (WCW actually did sue Flair & WWE, not over his name but over use of the Gold Title Belt, which was seen extensively o WWE TV when Flair arrived in 1991. Eventually WCW payed Flair several thousand dollars and he agreed to return the belt, WWE used a tag team title belt as the prop for Flair's entrances at arena shows, then "digitally distorted" the figure for his TV appearances since he was not wearing an officially sanctioned WWE Title belt). In 1996 niether Kein Nash or Scott Hall owned the rights to the Diesel or Razor Ramoan names so they did use those gimmicks during the Invasion Angle that kick started the NwO. WWE at one point did sue WCW for portraying Nash & Hall as WWE employees during the "Invasion" (the suit went nowhere) and at one point had other wrestlers on TV wrestling with their gimmicks as an insult to them.

WWE however maintains the rights to use their video footage and does not necessarily have to pay wrestlers for their use, much like the networks do not have to pay individual players or teams for showing a highlight of a past game during a broadcast. Typically if WWE wants to make extensive use of a performer's past matches, etc for some promotion (DVD for instance) they will sign them to a Legends Contract essentially paying them a flat rate, I am not sure if any percentage of proceeds from merchandise sales is included. This is similair to what the Madden Video Game folks do with NFL players, paying a flat rate to everyone for inclusion in the game instead of individual negotions between stars, allowing more real life players to be included. WWE is not obligated to pay Brett Hart for instance if they show a match highlight involving him as part of a storyline on Raw this week. In the interest of good business (making sure they are not sued) they would negotiate a deal with Hart for compensation if they decided to do another DVD retrospective on him.
 
*WWE uses Vickie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio to make money off Eddie's death, likely both were very willing* "fucking sleazy ass WWE"

*WWE doesn't induct guys like Bruno, Savage, and Owen because they or their parties don't want to be* "fuck it WWE, just do it anyways"

Makes me lol. The way I see it, whether they are inducted or not, they'll be immortalized because the WWE pushes so much damn product and is proud of their heritage. So no, don't induct them if they don't want to be.

Before I forget, FUCK Mark Madden. He sucks at his job. He's lucky not a lot of people want to follow wrestling from a journalism perspective. He's like the Collin Cowherd or Skip Bayless of wrestling only without the tongue and cheek sarcasm or actual intellect underneath.
 
WWE however maintains the rights to use their video footage and does not necessarily have to pay wrestlers for their use, much like the networks do not have to pay individual players or teams for showing a highlight of a past game during a broadcast. Typically if WWE wants to make extensive use of a performer's past matches, etc for some promotion (DVD for instance) they will sign them to a Legends Contract essentially paying them a flat rate, I am not sure if any percentage of proceeds from merchandise sales is included. This is similair to what the Madden Video Game folks do with NFL players, paying a flat rate to everyone for inclusion in the game instead of individual negotions between stars, allowing more real life players to be included. WWE is not obligated to pay Brett Hart for instance if they show a match highlight involving him as part of a storyline on Raw this week. In the interest of good business (making sure they are not sued) they would negotiate a deal with Hart for compensation if they decided to do another DVD retrospective on him.

Wrestling promotions are allowed to use their video library however they want. One of the indy companies that AJ Lee worked 3-4 years ago recently released a DVD of her matches (certainly in an attempt to capitialize on her WWE fame). I doubt AJ got even 1 cent from it. Ring of Honor released new Bryan Danielson and CM Punk DVDs this year, too.
 
I don't know why anybody still cares. This topic has been done to death and not that long ago, either. It's not our problem to handle, so let Vince do whatever he feels he can get away with.
 
The Brain and FlairFan make pretty convincing arguments. What's the point of inducting Bruno if he doesn't want to be there? I'd say just wait till he dies and if he puts something in his will to prevent it then that should probably be respected. If WWE had an actual building to put the HOF in then they could have Bruno all over that Hall of Fame without actually having him inducted. The way it is now it's just a ceremony and there's no point having a ceremony for a guy who won't show up. You build a Hall of Fame, and fill it up with wrestling history from about 1959 till 1987 then Bruno's gonna be in there regardless if he's inducted or not.

FlairFan: As for Goldberg being more worthy of HOF entrance, I'm not so sure. I used to think the same thing (Goldberg being more worthy) for years though. The argument for Warrior over Goldberg is that Warrior achieved his success in the pivotal WWE years. Goldberg achieved his in the pivotal WCW years. This is the WWE HOF. I know it celebrates NWA and WCW legends and their company's histories too. But WWE alumni get preference and Warrior was supposedly 'made' by Vince. Goldberg was 'made' by Eric Bischoff or Terry Taylor or whoever decided this guy should be unbeatable. Not sure Goldberg would have been as big as Warrior without the 'streak'. Although I've kinda felt for a few years that Goldberg had more major league accomplishments, I've read some pretty convincing arguments on other boards that lead me to believe that Warrior may actually have a slight edge.Warrior was huge from early 1988 to late 1992. Goldberg only really hit stride in 1998 and was pretty much done by early 2001 and was injured a few times in between. He had something like a one year run in WWE. But Ultimate Warrior was a huge draw. Goldberg was too but there were a number of other draws there in WCW. Warrior was one of very few main event draws. He had two epic Wrestlemania matches and another underrated gem with Rick Rude. His off and on feud with Savage is one of the best ever and lasted over three years. I know Goldberg beat Hogan, had a pretty decent feud with Bret Hart and had minor success in the WWE. I just feel the Ultimate Warrior resonates more in the consciousness of wrestling fans because of the period he was dominant. Goldberg had just as dominant a run but won't be remembered as being as big because there were many big names and two talent-stacked companies at that time. Warrior was one of just a few elite names in WWE during the the late 80s and early 90s. Considering who is in the HOF, I believe both Warrior and Goldberg are worthy for induction. They didn't have lengthy careers but they are perhaps the two best examples in wrestling of guys who did a ton in a very short period of time and deserve inclusion.
 
As much as poeple rag on The Ultimate Warrior, nobody can say with a straight face Goldberg deserves induction in the WWE Hall of Fame over Warrior.

Goldberg had a 12 month, ordinary run in WWE.
He has a 3 year run in WCW where he was over massively for mahybe 2 years of that tops.

The Ultimate Warrior was massively over his entire first run in WWE, dethroning Hulk Hogan to win the WWE Championship, engaged in great feuds with Rick Rude and the Heenan Family.

The WWE Hall of Fame for the most part is a popularity contest, Vince inducts a dead person, a woman, a foreign or coloured person, a celebrity,a legend from the early years and a couple of recent year people, same format each year. The WWE HOF cannot ever be really accepted as a fair dinkum HOF until Bruno Sammartino, Bob Backlund, Randy Savage and Ultimate Warrior are all inducted.

Goldberg is a long way down the totem poll. Jake Roberts, Rick Martel, Demolition, Rick Rude, Miss Elizabeth, Bossman, King Kong Bundy, Brutus Beefcake, Jumbo Tsurata, Lex Luger, Magnum TA, Nikita Koloff, Greta Muta are a handful who thoroughly deserve induction before flas in the pans like Bill Goldberg
 
My picks for this years Hall Of Fame would be

Mick Foley Headliner. Former WWE Champ. Went to the Garden to watch one of his first matches involving HOF'r Super Fly Jimmy Snuka. Have the rock or taker induct him.

Bob Backlund Secondary headliner. Inducted by Bret Hart

King Kong Bundy This upcoming Wrestlemania is in his backyard this year. H was also part of the main event at WM 2. Ted Dibiase can probably induct him as they were part of the Million Dollar corporation faction.

Slick I think WWE's first african american managers. He's due. Have him get inducted by Nikolai Volkoff

Randy & Liz Posthumous inductees. Inducted by maybe Rickey Steamboat with Lanny Poffo accepting the ring. That might be a long shot but possible. If not my other posthumous inductee would be Buddy Rogers, with Ric Flair inducting him.

Demolition Tag Team inductees that deserve it. Maybe Jim Duggan or Road Warrior Animal could induct them.

Mike Rotundo While he may not have won major titles he still worked his ass off for the company in the ring and outside for many years. Appeared in the first Wrestlemania has a champion. His sons can induct him.

Cyndi Lauper Celebrity inductee to be inducted by Wendi Richter.
 
Besides the obvious ones that are on the IWC list of wrestlers that should be HoF bound I really would like the Fabulous Freebirds to be inducted. In my opinion they're one of the greatest Heel teams of all time and they're long overdue. When mania was in Atlanta in 2011 would've been the perfect time to induct them.

Bruno, Owen & Randy are the ones that we all want to see but for the fact Bruno will flat out refuse, The rumour of Randy's wish and the animosity that Owen's wife has for the WWE it won't happen which is a big let down.
 
I remember reading a post from Sly about how The Miz deserved to go into the Hall of Fame more than Owen Hart. He was right. When you put Owen's career up against The Miz it's a victory for the guy who was on the reality show.

The Miz is a former WWE Champion, was the main event of WrestleMania and defeated the biggest name in professional wrestling today to retain his WWE Championship. How many people can say they beat John Cena one on one at WrestleMania? It's a really short list. Now I'm not saying The Miz should be inducted right now but you can make a good case that Owen didn't do anything more than the Miz during his wrestling career.

Owen was a tag team guy, he tagged with everyone. Multiple time champion in that division, good for him. He had a great feud with Bret Hart who was a star. Does that make Owen a star? No it doesn't. Other than the feud with Bret, who happened to be his brother, I don't think Owen did anything memorable. Looking at his feuds Owen never took a main event spot as heel after it. Was he a world champion contender like his brother? Owen was never anything to call home about.

His death is a huge reason people want him in the Hall of Fame. It was tragic but does that mean his career should be given more recognition then if he didn't die like he did? Owen Hart would not have this push for the Hall of Fame if not for his tragic death and if his last name wasn't Hart.

Owen Jones who fell to his death inside a WWF ring probably wouldn't have the same kind of fan base as Owen Hart does. Should Owen go into the Hall of Fame this year? Nope and I don't see when he would. His wife doesn't want it and I'm not going to argue with a woman who suffered like she did.
 
To be fair, though, Owen Hart's career was tragically ended far sooner than it should have been. Had the tragic event of May 23, 1999 not occurred, I think it is a reasonable assumption that he would have continued to have success in the WWE for another decade or more and who knows what sort of success he may have had or what accolades he may have amassed with several more years of active competition. Owen was only 34 years old when he died. Lots of guys are only just getting their feet wet in the business at this stage of the game. While no one can predict what would have been, it's not too much of a stretch to suggest that Owen Hart would have gone on to have considerable more success than the Miz (who I am a fan of) and several other guys, had his accident not occurred.

Should Owen Hart be induced into the WWE Hall of Fame? I would reluctantly say no, simply because for tragic reasons, his career did not last long enough to compile the sort of career numbers that it should take to get there. Would he have ultimately made it into the Hall had he not died when he did, no one knows, but I would respectfully suggest that it is very likely that he would have.
 
Big main names are obvious givens, but I would love for three amazing big men to get HOF honors as well: Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, and the Big Bossman. All three were amazing performers that broke the mold on the typical big man with their athleticism, mobility, and ability to perform and entertain.
 

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