Wrestlemania XXIX Feedback/Review Thread *KEEP IT ALL IN HERE*

[rge2010]

Austin is fucked off with WWE because they didnt do any promotion for his redneck tv show he has. Plus he doesnt want to play second fiddle to Rock like he did at WM27. Rock is the bigger star nowadays and he probably deep down doesnt like that.

Rock/Austin IV at Mania 30. Yes please.

 

[donfryeismyhero]

Austin is fucked off with WWE because they didnt do any promotion for his redneck tv show he has. Plus he doesnt want to play second fiddle to Rock like he did at WM27. Rock is the bigger star nowadays and he probably deep down doesnt like that.

Rock/Austin IV at Mania 30. Yes please.

Not sure if serious but that match would blow big. It would never live up to they're previous matches & be a huge let down. Austin hasn't wrestled since 2003 & would likely gas quicker then Rock who gasses half way through matches these days. If Stone Cold comes back, it needs to be against a work horse like Punk who can carry him throughout the match.

 

[Brahma_Bull9]

I am starting to think the Undertaker really is not human. MC is pushing 50 and can still outwork the rest of the roster.
Otherwise a rather blaise PPV. No surprises in the main events. Unpopular but I think I am alone in thinking having the rookies, The Shield, constantly beating the best on the roster is wrong. TEAM HELL NO retaining was a surprise. Forget where Jimmie Hoffa is buried but Ryback got buried in Jersey.

He's also fresher than the rest of them.... the roster is doing shows the rest of the yr while he can recuperate...

I didnt attempt to watch it because it was so predictable before hand and didn't really look to anything.... I'm probably going to stop watching again if Rock's gone, which I assume. It's really an awful product I cant even make it through a raw or smackdown over the last like 3 wks....

I dont have one but yall should be blowin up those twitter accounts for real. They need to hear it on there and in the stands that they suck....

 

[Mantis]

I feel like this Mania played it too safe. The in-ring performances were pretty solid all around, but the outcomes were dull and I would have liked to see at least one major swerve. I was also surprised by the silence of the NY crowd during long stretches of Brock vs HHH and Cena/Rock.

Punk/Taker was definitely the best match of the night even though it clearly wasn't all that it could've been with both competitors being much less than 100%. Still, the reactions of Heyman holding the urn were fantastic and I believe that Punk and Taker did the best they could under the circumstances.

 

[Mantis]

I am starting to think the Undertaker really is not human. MC is pushing 50 and can still outwork the rest of the roster.

He does remarkably well for his condition, but he can't even do "old school" and the vault over the top rope anymore, which is why both of those spots were interrupted. That shows that he doesn't have much left in the tank.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

The matches weren't sloppy. Yeah, there were sloppy moments but show me a flawless match these days.

The problem with the PPV was, well, the PPV. This is WrestleMania. This is not the IWC's usual overhyping, it's Wrestle-Fucking-Mania. It hypes itself. Hell, WWE has been hyping it for months.

The problem with the fans is that there was no exciting pay off. Yeah, Cena won. Yeah, Triple H won. Yeah, Undertaker won. So WHAT? Cena wins all the time. Undertaker wins all the time. Triple H wins all the time. And hey, that's not even the problem. Let them never lose. What do WE get out of this? What were the potential INTERESTING consequences of those wins? Punk will move on, Rock will move on, Lesnar will move on. This impacted nothing, the wins didn't MEAN anything.

The rest of the card and the developments there were the right thing to do, from WWE's perspective. But that doesn't make them interesting. It made sense for the shield to win. They're bad guys, they should do bad things and they should win (for now).

The only match that didn't make much sense was Henry and Ryback. Call it whatever you want, this was a burn job. Ryback pissed someone off or whoever gave him the push is coming off the Ryback hype and this is what he gets. Ryback is done for the time being. This is classic WWE taking a shit on someone.

Also, Fandango is a piece of shit and why he went over Jericho is beyond me. This gimmick will NEVER play out. This is another Brodus Clay in the making.

Other than that, everything made sense, everything went 99% smooth.

Now, why are the fans unhappy? It was just underwhelming. This is WRESTLEMANIA. Things are EXPECTED of you, as a promoter. If you're gonna book a run of the mill show, content wise no better than any other PPV you've held so far, then why is the price of this show higher than all the rest? Because of the pyro? Who gives a FUCK about pyro. Give me things to enjoy.

Had this been any other PPV you would NEVER see this kind of backlash from the fans. But this is WrestleMania. This is THE place to go balls out. Everyone in the fucking wrestling world is watching YOU. And this is the show you put out? This is the best you've got?

Pathetic.

You know what happened? CHA CHING! That's what happened. Vince knew he could book this kind of show and there was nothing you could do about it. Why? You already bought the damn thing. As far as he goes, he's done with you. See you next WrestleMania, you'll forget about it by then. Hell, you'll forget about it in a week, that's how shitty it was, for WM standards.

And next year he'll pull off the same bullshit. When are WWE fans going to grow a set of nuts and a brain and realize that Vince doesn't give a shit about content?

You know, shit on TNA all you want but these motherfuckers have learned how to deliver. LockDown was more eventful than anything WrestleMania brought us this year. I'll certainly remember LockDown a lot longer than I will this 'Mania. Things need to HAPPEN. If you'll rip off TNA rip off their guts. These guys take risks and don't give JACK SHIT about the consequences.

Why does WWE never take risks these days? For fuck's sake, the idea of WrestleMania was a risk itself! Ain't that ironic. Still, solid show in terms of matches. Zero pay off, zero memorability, zero excitement, zero care. It's a shame. WWE has some loyal fucks who love the crap out of them no matter WHAT and they take advantage of their passion time and time again. It's almost cruel to watch.

 

[JASONIGHTMARE]

I am done. I am pissed I wasted money on this. I am deleting WWE programs from my DVR. Worst Wrestlemania EVER.

I totally agreewith you I never ever imagined The Rock to job to john semen with all the pleasures mc moron gets from him he decided for his boy to get the title again cause when he screams and shouts and pouts like a kid he gets his away terrrrrible . They should have allowed Jack Swagger to win and Ziggler and Big E langston to win but mc moron screwed it up again this is the 3rd worst wheelchairmania time for fans to start boycotting worst wrestling emptiness. I am suprised there was no RIOT at METLIFE Stadium :-(

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

The matches weren't sloppy. Yeah, there were sloppy moments but show me a flawless match these days.

The problem with the PPV was, well, the PPV. This is WrestleMania. This is not the IWC's usual overhyping, it's Wrestle-Fucking-Mania. It hypes itself. Hell, WWE has been hyping it for months.

The problem with the fans is that there was no exciting pay off. Yeah, Cena won. Yeah, Triple H won. Yeah, Undertaker won. So WHAT? Cena wins all the time. Undertaker wins all the time. Triple H wins all the time. And hey, that's not even the problem. Let them never lose. What do WE get out of this? What were the potential INTERESTING consequences of those wins? Punk will move on, Rock will move on, Lesnar will move on. This impacted nothing, the wins didn't MEAN anything.

The rest of the card and the developments there were the right thing to do, from WWE's perspective. But that doesn't make them interesting. It made sense for the shield to win. They're bad guys, they should do bad things and they should win (for now).

The only match that didn't make much sense was Henry and Ryback. Call it whatever you want, this was a burn job. Ryback pissed someone off or whoever gave him the push is coming off the Ryback hype and this is what he gets. Ryback is done for the time being. This is classic WWE taking a shit on someone.

Also, Fandango is a piece of shit and why he went over Jericho is beyond me. This gimmick will NEVER play out. This is another Brodus Clay in the making.

Other than that, everything made sense, everything went 99% smooth.

Now, why are the fans unhappy? It was just underwhelming. This is WRESTLEMANIA. Things are EXPECTED of you, as a promoter. If you're gonna book a run of the mill show, content wise no better than any other PPV you've held so far, then why is the price of this show higher than all the rest? Because of the pyro? Who gives a FUCK about pyro. Give me things to enjoy.

Had this been any other PPV you would NEVER see this kind of backlash from the fans. But this is WrestleMania. This is THE place to go balls out. Everyone in the fucking wrestling world is watching YOU. And this is the show you put out? This is the best you've got?

Pathetic.

You know what happened? CHA CHING! That's what happened. Vince knew he could book this kind of show and there was nothing you could do about it. Why? You already bought the damn thing. As far as he goes, he's done with you. See you next WrestleMania, you'll forget about it by then. Hell, you'll forget about it in a week, that's how shitty it was, for WM standards.

And next year he'll pull off the same bullshit. When are WWE fans going to grow a set of nuts and a brain and realize that Vince doesn't give a shit about content?

You know, shit on TNA all you want but these motherfuckers have learned how to deliver. LockDown was more eventful than anything WrestleMania brought us this year. I'll certainly remember LockDown a lot longer than I will this 'Mania. Things need to HAPPEN. If you'll rip off TNA rip off their guts. These guys take risks and don't give JACK SHIT about the consequences.

Why does WWE never take risks these days? For fuck's sake, the idea of WrestleMania was a risk itself! Ain't that ironic. Still, solid show in terms of matches. Zero pay off, zero memorability, zero excitement, zero care. It's a shame. WWE has some loyal fucks who love the crap out of them no matter WHAT and they take advantage of their passion time and time again. It's almost cruel to watch.

Fandango went over Jericho because Jericho is TOO willing to put people over. I understand why he does it, and I'm fine with it to an extent, but between his run last year and this year he has had only one match that I predicted wrong, simply because you know he's going to put people over. It's too predictable.

And clearly people are upset with the PPV because there weren't enough matches with 450 corkscrew splashes reversed into a crossface and then rolled through into a surfboard stretch. That's clearly the only REAL wrestling out there.

Oh and Cena didn't turn heel and DZ didn't cash in. I mean, if DZ isn't champion of the entire planet, then wrestling is always going to be terrible right?

 

[Dysturbed]

I expected it to be underwhelming since and it was imo. I was assuming that Ryback would win and unsure about if The Shield would get their first loss, but other than that, things went as I expected for the most part. I am not going to make the common claim that since I expected it to be, that I wasn't dissapointed cause having that kind of expectation isn't a good thing. Regardless, I didn't hate it as much as some and I do look forward to Raw tonight. Again, maybe that will lead to disappointment, but I am interested in seeing who Cena's next opponent will be, if anyone returns or debuts as we often see post WM, and so on. If someone wants to say that the fact that I/a lot of us didn't love last night's WM yet still look forward to the next night's show can help support the argument that "people will watch any crap that WWE puts out" then I can't really argue with their opinion. I don't feel that the overall product is crap or despise last night's show as much as others, but I definitely see why others disagree.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Fandango isn't a "badass" and instead he's a different character who is kind of sadistically obsessed with himself. However, he dances, thus, he is Brodus clay and won't get over. What's that? The gimmick is getting over you say? He's a pretty solid in ring worker you say? Nope, I have a narrow idea off what gets over and what works. I am a typical IWC mark bitching for the sake of bitching.

Also, it wasn't booked the way I want so ill markishly bitch about that too (yet if they did, I'd bitch that it was predictable). Despite it not making good business sense at all, I'd rather Cena turn heel. Also, despite not knowing how they are going to have Ziggler cash in and maybe in the future it will be awesome, Ziggler should have cashed in because that's what I wanted.

 

[Kidpolean]

The matches weren't sloppy. Yeah, there were sloppy moments but show me a flawless match these days.

The problem with the PPV was, well, the PPV. This is WrestleMania. This is not the IWC's usual overhyping, it's Wrestle-Fucking-Mania. It hypes itself. Hell, WWE has been hyping it for months.

The problem with the fans is that there was no exciting pay off. Yeah, Cena won. Yeah, Triple H won. Yeah, Undertaker won. So WHAT? Cena wins all the time. Undertaker wins all the time. Triple H wins all the time. And hey, that's not even the problem. Let them never lose. What do WE get out of this? What were the potential INTERESTING consequences of those wins? Punk will move on, Rock will move on, Lesnar will move on. This impacted nothing, the wins didn't MEAN anything.

The rest of the card and the developments there were the right thing to do, from WWE's perspective. But that doesn't make them interesting. It made sense for the shield to win. They're bad guys, they should do bad things and they should win (for now).

The only match that didn't make much sense was Henry and Ryback. Call it whatever you want, this was a burn job. Ryback pissed someone off or whoever gave him the push is coming off the Ryback hype and this is what he gets. Ryback is done for the time being. This is classic WWE taking a shit on someone.

Also, Fandango is a piece of shit and why he went over Jericho is beyond me. This gimmick will NEVER play out. This is another Brodus Clay in the making.

Other than that, everything made sense, everything went 99% smooth.

Now, why are the fans unhappy? It was just underwhelming. This is WRESTLEMANIA. Things are EXPECTED of you, as a promoter. If you're gonna book a run of the mill show, content wise no better than any other PPV you've held so far, then why is the price of this show higher than all the rest? Because of the pyro? Who gives a FUCK about pyro. Give me things to enjoy.

Had this been any other PPV you would NEVER see this kind of backlash from the fans. But this is WrestleMania. This is THE place to go balls out. Everyone in the fucking wrestling world is watching YOU. And this is the show you put out? This is the best you've got?

Pathetic.

You know what happened? CHA CHING! That's what happened. Vince knew he could book this kind of show and there was nothing you could do about it. Why? You already bought the damn thing. As far as he goes, he's done with you. See you next WrestleMania, you'll forget about it by then. Hell, you'll forget about it in a week, that's how shitty it was, for WM standards.

And next year he'll pull off the same bullshit. When are WWE fans going to grow a set of nuts and a brain and realize that Vince doesn't give a shit about content?

You know, shit on TNA all you want but these motherfuckers have learned how to deliver. LockDown was more eventful than anything WrestleMania brought us this year. I'll certainly remember LockDown a lot longer than I will this 'Mania. Things need to HAPPEN. If you'll rip off TNA rip off their guts. These guys take risks and don't give JACK SHIT about the consequences.

Why does WWE never take risks these days? For fuck's sake, the idea of WrestleMania was a risk itself! Ain't that ironic.

Im not trying to say that you dont know what your talking about, I just really dont understand what you and a lot of other people wanted to happen at Mania. The three biggest matches were done the best they could have been done. Punk vs Taker was a great match and Taker won, what did you expect. HHH vs Brock was a good match and HHH won, once again what did you want to happen differently? Cena beats Rock, nothing could have been different. People, Cena is never turning heel because it would be bad for business, The streak wasnt going to end because it would be bad for business, and HHH can still go so why retire and why would he choose brock to retire him when they have no history together? I see why people didnt like the ppv but I dont understand why some of you even watched it. Every match except Henry and Ryback was known who the winners would be. We all already knew the results so if you dont want to see those results play out than dont watch it. But dont watch it than come complain about the results that you knew were going to happen four weeks ago. How are people complaining about the build during a review of the event, once again if you didnt like the build than dont buy the product. That's like not liking a movie trailer but than you go see the movie anyway. My problem is that a lot of people on here that are calling this mania terrible was the same people saying that it was going to be terrible weeks ago and that is not using fair judgement. If you expect something to be bad than you will go into it with a negative attitude and your negative attitude will make you have a negative experience.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I'm wondering if Ziggler was supposed to cash in MITB but they were running way behind schedule, so he didn't. I read on the WZ mainpage that the world title match ended earlier than it was supposed to because of the timing. If Ziggler cashes in tonight then he probably was supposed to last night. We'll see.

 

[GeneralKarim]

Ok so for me, personally.This was the worst wrestlemania I have ever watched.This is the first wrestlemania ever to make me wanna not watch WWE anymore.I mean its the first wrestlemania where I actually almost fall a sleep.And I had a good sleep last night.

So dissapointed.Words cannot describe.Ofc even if I say this ill still watch RAW tommorow.

The Ziggler match was fkn ridiculously short and didnt show case what Ziggy and Bryan can do on the big stage.CM PUnk Taker match was a joke( Tho I get it that CM punk got injured, so what shitty luck ).Lesnar Triple H was good but was very very predictable, the moment lesnar brought the stairs in the ring I knew how it would finish.And Cena Rock.. w/e.

Very very dissapointed in WWE for such a lacuster Wrestlemania.After last night guess who the workhorses are gonna be still?Not Lesnar,Rock or Taker and if Punk is hurt and is taking time off, this might be a lucky break for Ziggler.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Im not trying to say that you dont know what your talking about, I just really dont understand what you and a lot of other people wanted to happen at Mania. The three biggest matches were done the best they could have been done. Punk vs Taker was a great match and Taker won, what did you expect. HHH vs Brock was a good match and HHH won, once again what did you want to happen differently? Cena beats Rock, nothing could have been different. People, Cena is never turning heel because it would be bad for business, The streak wasnt going to end because it would be bad for business, and HHH can still go so why retire and why would he choose brock to retire him when they have no history together? I see why people didnt like the ppv but I dont understand why some of you even watched it. Every match except Henry and Ryback was known who the winners would be. We all already knew the results so if you dont want to see those results play out than dont watch it. But dont watch it than come complain about the results that you knew were going to happen four weeks ago. How are people complaining about the build during a review of the event, once again if you didnt like the build than dont buy the product. That's like not liking a movie trailer but than you go see the movie anyway. My problem is that a lot of people on here that are calling this mania terrible was the same people saying that it was going to be terrible weeks ago and that is not using fair judgement. If you expect something to be bad than you will go into it with a negative attitude and your negative attitude will make you have a negative experience.

Dude, it's the WWE. Their pseudo hipster psyches don't allow them to express joy over anything the WWE does unless it happened at least a year ago. Don't you know the rules? I mean, apparently Mania's 28 and 27 were the worst ever too. Every raw is worse than the week before. These people dislike the wwe so much that they watch every week and spend countless hours telling people about it. Isn't that what everyone does? I mean, I joined a frat and a jersey shore fan club because I hate them both so much. It's logical right? It shows how sophisticated you are. Especially when you use insider words like sell and pop because you're part of a select group that knows wrestling is a work. If you REALLY want to show how smart you are, use the term "psychology" even if you have no idea what that is.

But seriously, I enjoy most of what the WWE does and enjoy coming on here most of the time. Sometimes the lack of logic and irrational hate is frustrating and so I don't come on here for months at a time. I thought Mania was solid though. I'm going to watch it again and really digest it.

 

[#heel420]

People saying that turning Cena heel is bad for business, I have a question. Is it good business to have your top baby face champion booed out of the building constantly? And who is now getting boring chants which is even worse than all the boos. I don't care if they turn him heel or not at this point, but some thing needs to be changed about John Cena. His character has not advanced since 2005. It's time for a change.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Ok so for me, personally.This was the worst wrestlemania I have ever watched.This is the first wrestlemania ever to make me wanna not watch WWE anymore.I mean its the first wrestlemania where I actually almost fall a sleep.And I had a good sleep last night.

So dissapointed.Words cannot describe.Ofc even if I say this ill still watch RAW tommorow.

The Ziggler match was fkn ridiculously short and didnt show case what Ziggy and Bryan can do on the big stage.CM PUnk Taker match was a joke( Tho I get it that CM punk got injured, so what shitty luck ).Lesnar Triple H was good but was very very predictable, the moment lesnar brought the stairs in the ring I knew how it would finish.And Cena Rock.. w/e.

Very very dissapointed in WWE for such a lacuster Wrestlemania.After last night guess who the workhorses are gonna be still?Not Lesnar,Rock or Taker and if Punk is hurt and is taking time off, this might be a lucky break for Ziggler.

how was punk/taker a joke? Also, other than knowing the ending (which is no different than 90% of entertainment), what did you dislike?

Another thing, how much time did you want an undercard tag match to get? You sound like someone who is just a DB and Ziggler mark. I'm probably the biggest DB fan here.

I don't dislike the bitching, I dislike the irrational bitching. Give examples, explain things. "Punk/Taker was a joke" doesn't really say anything. Try expressing and communicating your opinion better.

 

[Dysturbed]

The three biggest matches were done the best they could have been done. Punk vs Taker was a great match and Taker won, what did you expect. HHH vs Brock was a good match and HHH won, once again what did you want to happen differently? Cena beats Rock, nothing could have been different.

I think that is the problem. A lot of people didn't like knowing that those three specific matches existed in the first place, especially because they knew that they wouldn't be done differently. Like you said, every match (The Shield match wasn't a completely obvious outcome in advance) had a probable outcome. It is unrealistic to expect unpredictablity a lot of the time, but isn't wrong imo for those who are unhappy to have hoped for some sort of unpredicablity on the biggest stage. At the same time, if anyone was that convinced that they weren't going to see anything great (based on their taste) then they probably should have avoided it.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

People saying that turning Cena heel is bad for business, I have a question. Is it good business to have your top baby face champion booed out of the building constantly? And who is now getting boring chants which is even worse than all the boos. I don't care if they turn him heel or not at this point, but some thing needs to be changed about John Cena. His character has not advanced since 2005. It's time for a change.

He's not the top face. He's the most over guy in the company. That's what you don't get. You don't boo him because you're so sophisticated. He works you into booing him more. It's a lot better reaction. People still buy the shirts, still watch, and still make noise. Turning him heel would just get the inverse reaction but be less friendly for multi media and merchandise.

There aren't heels and baby faces anymore. They act like heels and baby faces. The audience isn't homogenous though. You have part of the audience that sees a classic good guy and boos and part that cheers and vice versa for classic heels. The industry has changed. Even the chants have changed. "You can't wrestle" is a way to get under fandango's skin. Same thing with the boring chants for Cena. NOBODY in the audience is more in tune to it bent a work than the other. Even the kids know its a work. If anything, the supposed smart marks are the dumbest because they lack any business sense. They think guys who don't draw but do 100 moves a minute are good.

 

[Dysturbed]

. Is it good business to have your top baby face champion booed out of the building constantly?

It hasn't apparently harmed the product in a fashion to make it bad business. Yeah people complain non stop about him, but every single person who is in a crowd booing him out of the building paid for a ticket or had someone purchase it for them, despite knowing that, unless he is injured by the time the show they paid for happens, he is going to be a part of the card. If he truly is turning anyone off from watching the product then in that respect it is preventing the company from making even more money, but where he specifically is concerned, sales of merchandise aren't exactly failing, despite being booed out of the building. I would like to see him have the edge that he sometimes shows on a more frequent basis however.

 

[GeneralKarim]

Really why not a joke? It lasted so little.If it didnt last long cause of Punks injury ok, if that was not the reason than it was a joke, no more needed to be said.

As I said Triple h Brock was good but way way too predictable.Rock Cena I dunno what you want me to say?The bad moves?The slow pace?The akwardness of every move?The frigging fkn long match they had for no reason? No im not a mark but the way the match was setup to be played out it just was a freaking superstars tag team match.Might aswell leave them out and have CEsaro do something.

IF you really think this was a good wrestlemania you have poor taste my friend.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Really why not a joke? It lasted so little.If it didnt last long cause of Punks injury ok, if that was not the reason than it was a joke, no more needed to be said.

As I said Triple h Brock was good but way way too predictable.Rock Cena I dunno what you want me to say?The bad moves?The slow pace?The akwardness of every move?The frigging fkn long match they had for no reason? No im not a mark but the way the match was setup to be played out it just was a freaking superstars tag team match.Might aswell leave them out and have CEsaro do something.

IF you really think this was a good wrestlemania you have poor taste my friend.

"Poor taste"? It's pro wrestling. It was solid. Nowhere near the worst ever.

Also, you complain about taker and punk going to short, rock and Cena going too long.

As for the slower rock and Cena pace, why wrestle faster? Give the crowd a chance to digest everything. "Bad moves"? Wtf does that even mean? Are you a moves mark? Are you a work rate guy?

Maybe the wwe just isn't for you? They are more concerned with telling an in ring story than performing gymnastics and pretending its wrestling.
Btw, I've been to more ROH shows than most people have been to wrestling shows. I know that anyone who says that gymnastics style wrestling is just a blind WWE mark right?

 

[#heel420]

He's not the top face. He's the most over guy in the company. That's what you don't get. You don't boo him because you're so sophisticated. He works you into booing him more. It's a lot better reaction. People still buy the shirts, still watch, and still make noise. Turning him heel would just get the inverse reaction but be less friendly for multi media and merchandise.

...But he is a good guy at the end of the day. He wins clean, doesn't cheat. Has Hulk Hogan like come backs. He's the ultimate face. And I boo him because I don't like his cheesy, stale character. And the fact that he works you into booing more is bullshit. He's definitely embraced it, but what else could he do? He'd look like a bad guy if he shitted on the fans opinions so when they boo him he just stands there and accepts it with a stupid grin on his face. The Rock and Austin did pretty good with merch and media and they weren't this fruity pebble salute & smile bullshit.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Now reports are surfacing that in additon to the Tons of Fun-Funkadactyls match being cut, world title match being cut short - Rock and Cena's entrances were indeed scrapped, as was Lillian singing.

It sucks that they had to cut the entrances. I know most fans would probably rather have more wrestling time and less of "wasted" time but I watch WWE for both wrestling AND the entertainment aspect of it and I think entrances AT WRESTLEMANIA, really add to the "prestige" of the match and entertainment value. It doesn't feel like I'm watching a match on RAW, it feels like I'm watching something special and important.

I'd really like to know, what went too long initially, causing the whole card to be messed up. Was it the vignettes, promos? Puff Daddy (could have done without that)?

 

[Bernkastel]

...But he is a good guy at the end of the day. He wins clean, doesn't cheat. Has Hulk Hogan like come backs. He's the ultimate face. And I boo him because I don't like his cheesy, stale character. And the fact that he works you into booing more is bullshit. He's definitely embraced it, but what else could he do? He'd look like a bad guy if he shitted on the fans opinions so when they boo him he just stands there and accepts it with a stupid grin on his face. The Rock and Austin did pretty good with merch and media and they weren't this fruity pebble salute & smile bullshit.

Austin's character was unique because it was basically the first real anti-hero. The problem was that it gave rise to other anti hero characters like Kane, biker Taker, and Rock and Jericho. Soon "a face that acts like a heel" were what fans became conditioned to see and respond to. And even though Rock was good with revenue, he was never Austins level. I'd argue that Cena with his "fruity pebbles" has been much better for business than the Rock was in 2000.

If a worker has to play a bad guy to get over as a good guy, then that's bad for business.

 

[bradland012]

(New to the forum, first post.)

Shield vs Randy Orton, Big Show, and Sheamus: I thought this match was performed pretty well. Was disappointed in how they had Big Show turned heel despite being a heel anyways. Thought that both teams looked strong.

Mark Henry vs Ryback: I wouldn't mind Mark Henry dominating the match if only they had Ryback win in the end. The ending was terrible, made it seem more like an accidental win, and this makes no one look strong. The Shell Shock from Ryback was nice to see in the end.

Team Hell No vs Dolph & Langston: Actually thought they would end the match with the Daniel Bryan kick after Dolph and AJ's kissing and continue to tease Langston's in ring debut. That being said, Big E looked great in the match. For Team Hell No, sure the "Partners who hate each other" gimmick ran its course, but I feel that if they argued during the backstage segments and not in the ring it will help keep this team alive longer.

Fandango vs Chris Jericho: Both entrances were great, the match was okay. Felt like they couldn't get anything going and the sloppy ending didn't help. Sad seeing Jericho lose, but hopefully it helps Fandango do well in the WWE.

Del Rio vs Swagger: Thought this had a good build up. The match was average. Did want Swagger to win but didn't have my hopes up since they have yet to punish Swagger for his arrest. Both Zeb and Ricardo getting involved in the match helped it out. Sad ending.

Undertaker vs CM Punk: It's hard to live up to Taker's last four Wrestlemania matches. Since Taker is so old and has done pretty much everything he can perform, it is hard for them to come up with something new to do in matches. This match felt pretty plain because of that.The table spot looked like it hurt. I also felt like they could've used the urn more during the match. I still enjoyed this match.

Brock Lesnar vs Triple H: The match that was the most unpredictable in my opinion. Felt like a hard fought match, the marks all over Lesnar showed it. It's fun watching Lesnar wrestle since most of the match was him throwing Triple H around with suplexes. I thought the ending was good, showed how much it took Triple H to beat Lesnar.

Poor Heyman, was out there for a whole hour, lost both matches, and had to work hard the both of them.

Now the match placement was horrible. The crowd seemed tired from both great matches going back-to-back. Usually they space the main events out so that the crowd can settle down.

The Rock vs John Cena: The first 15 minutes was bland. Felt very emotionless and the intensity level was very low. The crowd being tired doesn't help and they looked dead for a good amount of time. Cena getting boo'd was heard for those who were there live. The Rock looked out of it, according to my brother he was noticing Cena talking through the match, so could it be that he was calling the match? The match picked up for the false finishes, the match ending came out of nowhere, and I thought that Cena doing the throwback to last year's Mania ending should've been the finish.

I wish they had some interviews or backstage segments instead of just having all promos for the main event and WWE's sponsors.

I enjoyed watching Mania this year as usual. Was in the middle compared to other Wrestlemanias.
Rating: 6/10