WrestleMania XXIV: Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Triple H

Yea honestly, Triple H being added to this is a good idea. As much as the WWE has tried to convince us, Randy Orton is just simply not on the same echelon as Triple H and John Cena. "time to play the game" will hit, the crowd will pop like a motherfucker, and it will be obvious that this wasnt a bad idea?? as for the match??? Besides what might be a hot crowd (does anyone have the slightest idea what the crowd may be like in orlando???) this match will probably be pretty ass. Cena looked bad at NWO, and Orton just isnt that good period, Like Jake says, he just raises indifference really.

Hopefully they Have trips go over, especially if they put this as the last match of the night. and being WWE, you know they will. If Cena wins, its gonna cause the hatred level for him to raise to a place it hasnt been before. They HAVE to have him being the "hunter" for a while, in my opinion, its imperitive. Trips has jobbed at every WM since 19, in title matches, its time for him to win one. Is there a pretty high chance of Cena going over, and doing the whole on the knees crying bullshit thing while he gets booed out of the building again??? Yes. I surely hope the WWE is goin to be a tad more unpredictable this time.
 
As good as this match can be, it won't. It should have been Orton/Cena since that feud never truly ended. But WWE had to throw HHH in there. The macth would have been good enough without him, it's just that WWE has to have HHH main event, which is boring. I like HHH, but adding him in this match is unnecessary. The only up side of HHH being in this is that'll he get a good crowd reaction. Cena (nowadays) has just as many fans as haters, and Orton puts the crowd to sleep, so HHH might save this.

Another thing that bugs me is the way WWE plays out their triple threats. What the fuck is with the sudden death pinfall/submission thing. It would be so much better if it was an elimination styled match. I find the matches that are elimination styled are far more intresting. But WWE only uses the elimination rule for four ways.

Finally I'm also mad that this match will headline WrestleMania. A match with so much potential like the Edge/'Taker match will not main event. The Edge/'Taker rivalry has been brewing for just under a year. While this feud has been going since No Way Out when HHH won the Elimination Chamber. I would be very happy to see Edge/'Taker headline, but sadly won't.
 
Do you people have short attention spans. How the fuck can you say Cena HHH was a "bad match" or anything short of Highly Well done. Two guys, lot of charisma, both over, both massive stars in the buiss, good bodys, good moves good potential spots good buildup and you guys say that SHIT?!?!

Wtf is wrong with you. Orton will dominate a lot of the match as he is dropping the title and they always give good send offs, (I'm a big Orton fan but i dnt care if he drops the title cause he did really well as a heel in his reign and has impressed management that he can carry a company so he will have many more reigns,) and either Cena will keep his 4-0 and make it 5-0 or HHH will do that fucking pose and continue dominating for a long time until everyone hates him again, but he knows that will happen so he will opt for a heel turn so he has an excuse for being booed out of the fucking building.
 
i feel like orton has to win if wwe actually want to establish him as a main guy, because hes nearly there, and this win would send him over as a real top draw. hhh and cena have nothing to gain if they win, theyre both already there, so i see wwe pushing orton in this match
 
Orton needs to win this match. Thats just how it is. If WWE ever wants to usher in a new era then they need to start by making Orton "the man". Trips needs to turn heel , screw Cena and help Orton win. How awesome would that be? The initial Evolution plan would finally have panned out. Then we could have an Orton/Trips team dominating WWE for the next few months. Id find that far more entertaining than hearing all the Cena haters bitch about his title reign or a washed up meglomaniac having his 12th title run (just 4 more to go).
 
i hope that john cena wins then, a plane falls out of the sky and crushes him, then the belt can be awarded to hhh and then another different plane can fall on him. then they can finally give the belt to the one man who truly deserves it [dramatic pause.............] HORNSWAGGLE !!!!!!!!!!! really at this point does it really matter anyone would be better than cena or hunter. i swear to god when i heard cena was injured and would be out for a "year" i was extremely happy. i thought 12 months without captian douchebag yes finally. then i thought damn trips is still around. i long for a real champion. where have you all gone? david arquette,vince russo, steve corino save us !!!!!!! [sarcasm]
 
In all honesty, I think this is the best possible Wrestlemania Raw main event that the WWE could have pulled off that already hasnt been done.

Think bout it Orton vs HHH(done), Orton vs Cena(done) and Cena vs HHH(done).
So I think WWE was smart and put all 3 of them in the same match. The last time the main event of Wrestlemania that was a triple threat was in 2004 when it was a pretty darn good match IMO.

O.K people arent excited about this match as they are withTaker Vs Edge but I truly believe this can be a great Wrestlemania main event.

Im sorry but I jst cant see Orton winning it, its Wrestlemania folks which means the face must always win in the main event(usually). I hope HHH doesnt become a 12 time champ as I think hes had enough title reigns but Ill be happy if Cena or Orton wins the match.

I try to think of the positive things of the WWE unlyk many others who just shit all over anything the WWE does. I really think people dont appreciate anything anymore, its fricken Wrestlemania THE BEST TIME TO WATCH WRESTLING, so I sayy stop whinging and start enjoying.
 
Honestly, I am hoping that somehow, someway, Orton will walk out of Wrestlemania as the champ. Although i dont think his title reign has been all that great so far, his fued with Hardy by far being the best, I really dont want to see Cena or HHH be that champion again. That said i expect HHH to walk out of Wrestlemania the champion because his latest title run has been brewing for a while. I hope he doesn't considering he basically ruined the Rumble by coming in a eliminating everyone, but that is what i expect. Cena has been the champion so much they can do more with him not being the champion. Expect HHH to walk out of Mania' the champ and to fued with Orton for a month or so.
 
mr. kennedy will be world champ at the end of the day. he will win money in the bank, cena or hhh wins the title and will lose it to kennedy because kennedy will cash it in and hit him with a mic check. unlesss wwe wants a 14 year john cena title reign or hhh dominating reign and make either one pull of a superman effort and retain againsst kennedy to get them the fans that theyre losing every day, this will happenn and kennedy will be world championn
 
i feel like orton has to win if wwe actually want to establish him as a main guy, because hes nearly there, and this win would send him over as a real top draw. hhh and cena have nothing to gain if they win, theyre both already there, so i see wwe pushing orton in this match

Dude your absolutley right. In the first part anyway. Orton needs to go over CLEAN, he has been bordering on the brink of complete hall of fame or consistent main event status for a long time. He needs to and should go over in what could be one of the greatest matches ever. Think of the spots and finishes you could have with an RKO. e.g FU into a RKO would be an aweasome way to end any ppv, a clean win from Orton along with a new entrance theme would really do it. But Orton will not one win because WWE are largley morons.
 
In a way I dont know who is coming out of WM with the wwe title, most would assume HHH or Cena and would think the same but whats up with Kennedy and by doing this little tease actually give away the MITB or is it just another way to get Kennedy over as a potential championship contender down the road. With Cena or HHH winning i think we in store for a over blown feud between the two leading up possibly Summer Slam which is way to long of a feud. Having Orton or maybe the MITB winner then you are opening up a lot different angles.
 
Im pulling to Orton to win (by cheating of course), and hopefully Jeff comes out and cashes in the MITB case (which he'll most likely win) and wins the WWE title. That would be a true Wrestlemania moment and wishful thinking on my part.

Ponder this,yes wishful thinking, just prarying for a potential heart leap like no mercy orton lms match or rr cena return, kennedy told all of us that he would cash in his money in the bank at wrestlemania 24, so he wins and boom gets it of orton, cena, or HHH and WWE champ Kennedy.
 
i really want orton to win..wwe needs to surprise us and orton winning will do it! as said orton is on the edge of becoming hall of fame material or consistent main event status and john cena and hhh are already there.

then there are many new fueds...mr.kennedy and orton would be entertaining they can both cut good promos and can both be funny...imo

but all in all i think orton should win..but i have no clue who will
 
as said orton is on the edge of becoming hall of fame material or consistent main event status


Hall of Fame material OR consistent main event status? Ha. Wasn't it just last year that Ric Flair was main eventing all the time? And look! He's going to be in the Hall of Fame!



But really. I predict a Cena heel turn here. It's a long-shot, but I really see him going heel as soon as possible. He is tweening REALLY badly right now, and Cena is no tweener. I think Triple H is too far over as a face to go heel right now, unless it's on Hardy. Cena is no longer top babyface in the company, and I hope Vince realizes that. I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of heel faction is created here, forming an alliance against Triple H. Trips gets screwed by Cena...Cena wins the strap.

Either that, or Trips wins cleanly. I think it is very unwise and unlikely to put Cena over Triple H cleanly. Orton doesn't have a chance. He very well may be the second most buried champ in Mania history behind Jericho. Meh on Orton's reign.
 
The more and more I think about this the best result for this match would be for Orton to win or no winner at all and the title becomes vacant. Maybe this year WWE should go with the multiple champs and just not one or two guys dominating the title and/or main event. When healthy Cena has been in every WWE title match where it was defended except for ONS '06 since winning it at WM 21. I would like to see them go without Cena being in the title picture for more than four months or more for once.
 
Cena is no longer top babyface in the company, and I hope Vince realizes that.

It is Vince McMahon who decides who is WWE's top babyface. His choice is Cena, whether fans like it or not.

And McMahon has indicated several times in the past month that Cena is his top face. Look at the Royal Rumble. Vince brings him in as a surprise entry and he not only wins, he throws out Triple H. Fast forward to No Way Out. Cena won with a DQ victory in the WWE Championship match. Then, the night after it was John Cena who defeated the WWE Champion cleanly one on one. As a result, he is headlining Wrestlemania. Oh, and of course in the tag team match last night it was Cena who won the match for his team with the STFU on Kennedy. If Cena isn't the top face, I don't know who is.

As far as the WWE Championship match at Wrestlemania, I expect an epic. Cena, Triple H, and Orton are all very intense competitors. Their match will be nothing short of amazing. I expect this Wrestlemania to be one of the greatest of all time.

I don't know why fans are so critical of Triple Threat world title matches at Wrestlemania. The Wrestlemania XX match is still considered by many to be the greatest match in Wrestlemania history. And the Wrestlemania 22 Triple Threat match could have been an absolute classic if it was given ten more minutes.
 
Okay, first of all it is Vince McMahon who decides who is WWE's top babyface. His choice is Cena, whether fans like it or not.

And McMahon has indicated several times in the past month that Cena is his top face. Look at the Royal Rumble. Vince brings him in as a surprise entry and he not only wins, he throws out Triple H. Fast forward to No Way Out. Cena won with a DQ victory in the WWE Championship match. Then, the night after it was John Cena who defeated the WWE Champion cleanly one on one. As a result, he is headlining Wrestlemania. Oh, and of course in the tag team match last night it was Cena who won the match for his team with the STFU on Kennedy. If Cena isn't the top face, I don't know who is.

I don't know man, probably the guy who has been booed more than he has been cheered over the span of the last month. Sure Vince has him set up as babyface right now, but Vince is really playing with fire if he keeps him as top baby-face. His recent clean success is a great way to mask a heel turn. And what better place for the biggest name in the post-Attitude era to stage his heel turn than Mania? It's not likely, as Cena is a moneymaker and he wants the kiddies to buy the shirts, but the fans decide who is over and who is not. If Vince had his way, Mark Henry would be a 42-time WWE Champ.

Like I said, Cena heel turn: improbable. The best possible outcome? Yes. There is nothing more irritating than having a guy babyfaced down our throats when at least half of the fans boo the crap out of him. Does anyone really want to see a clean Cena victory? Yeah, people who like instantaneous vomitting. :taijiri:
 
i hope that john cena wins then, a plane falls out of the sky and crushes him, then the belt can be awarded to hhh and then another different plane can fall on him. then they can finally give the belt to the one man who truly deserves it [dramatic pause.............] HORNSWAGGLE !!!!!!!!!!! really at this point does it really matter anyone would be better than cena or hunter. i swear to god when i heard cena was injured and would be out for a "year" i was extremely happy. i thought 12 months without captian douchebag yes finally. then i thought damn trips is still around. i long for a real champion. where have you all gone? david arquette,vince russo, steve corino save us !!!!!!! [sarcasm]

I like you guy,no homo.But i felt the exact same way when Cena was hurt i knew that finally i don't have to here the same shit week after week.Personally as long as cena dosn't get i'll be pretty happy.I'd choose hunter or randy anyday over THE FUCKING CHAMP IS HERE SHIT.
 
This match is the reason why i'm not excited about wrestlemania this year. This will probably be the main event of the show and i couldn'T care less. Look what we got in this match. First we got a guy that came back early from injury and got only 50% of the crowd behind him, Secondly, we got the boss son in law and one of the reason why people don'T watch raw every week, Finally, we got the worst WWE champion in the last decade and like is title reign, he's just a afterthought in this match. Don't be surprised if orton lose is title at wrestlemania.

This was the safest main-event the WWE could come up with and i am sad about it wrestlemania used to be the place where main-event star were born, now it's just a ppv where main event stars get a bigger paycheck.
 
Yeah i agree with u all the way robwylde90 Randy Orton does need to win this title match. THis is nto because i am in fact a Cena hater but also because I want Orton to win. It would turn things around and then after Triple H helps Orton win the match He can go after the title himself but keep Cena out of the picture.
 
I agree orton needs to win to really be established but we know that he wont because faces always win titles at mania I think he can still establish himself as long as he is not pinned or made to submit

I agree orton needs to win to really be established but we know that he wont because faces always win titles at mania I think he can still establish himself as long as he is not pinned or made to submit[/QUOTE]

This match is the reason why i'm not excited about wrestlemania this year. This will probably be the main event of the show and i couldn'T care less. Look what we got in this match. First we got a guy that came back early from injury and got only 50% of the crowd behind him, Secondly, we got the boss son in law and one of the reason why people don'T watch raw every week, Finally, we got the worst WWE champion in the last decade and like is title reign, he's just a afterthought in this match. Don't be surprised if orton lose is title at wrestlemania.

This was the safest main-event the WWE could come up with and i am sad about it wrestlemania used to be the place where main-event star were born, now it's just a ppv where main event stars get a bigger paycheck.

what were your raw main event for wrestlemania be then
 
what were your raw main event for wrestlemania be then


If i was booking Wrestlemania i would have John Cena wrestle HHH in a #1 contenders match and the Raw Main event would Be Shawn Micheals vs Jeff HArdy Vs Randy Orton for the WWE Championship. Have Jeff HArdy win by beating HBK, This way you elevates a new guy to the main event status and create a wrestlemania moment at the same time and you don't have to to sacrifice Orton in the process.
 
If i was booking Wrestlemania i would have John Cena wrestle HHH in a #1 contenders match and the Raw Main event would Be Shawn Micheals vs Jeff HArdy Vs Randy Orton for the WWE Championship. Have Jeff HArdy win by beating HBK, This way you elevates a new guy to the main event status and create a wrestlemania moment at the same time and you don't have to to sacrifice Orton in the process.

I hate to break it to you, but the sacrifice of Orton has already taken place (at least for the time being). If Orton wins, or if he doesn't win: Orton gets the shaft.

If he loses: He doesn't lose a whole lot of credibility because he doesn't have that much to begin with. Jeff Hardy dominated him for a month, and then they had Orton take a clean win. That made Orton look bad. Even though Orton beat him cleanly, Hardy came out of that feud looking far better than Orton because he got pwnd week after week. That is what people will remember about that feud, not that Orton countered a Twist of Fate into an RKO. And then the DQ at NWO against Cena seems to have worse of an aftershock as I thought. It just makes him look weak. If he were to get DQed and then kicked the crap out of Cena, then that would have been a strong showing for Orton. But that really just made him look weak. And now they expect him to hold his own with the biggest star of the post-attitude era and perhaps the greatest of all-time? I think Vince wishes he had a flux capacitor.

If he wins: It makes everyone else look bad. Orton is sooooo weak right now. A win would not elevate him whatsoever. It would just bring down Trips and Cena. Sure, he's top heel right now, but the fans don't hate him. The boos coming from the crowd are annoyance boos. So, if Orton were to win (let's be honest guys...Orton has as close to a 0% chance of winning as is possible even taking into account the "anything can happen theory") he would just bury Cena, as he is already hanging around Tweenerville, and he would illegitimize Triple H's "return to the top" dating back to No Mercy. He would be bringnig them down to his current level of suckdom, and that would leave Jeff Hardy as the most legit guy on Raw. He's not ready to be that yet.


Trust me. You guys DO NOT want Orton to win. He may look more appealing than the typical Cena or Trips options, but this is not the time to take that option.
 
Ok so this and the Money in the bank match I have no commented on yet. This match will be... Pointless... I'm all for triple threat matches, but not involving Cena and HHH... Why you ask? It's almost guarenteed that one of them will win. I think Orton stands NO CHANCE at retaining. As with most Wrestlemania main events, we will probably see a rematch at Backlash. I see one of two things happening... Cena wins the match cleanly or HHH wins due to someone screwing Cena over. Reguardless... I do not think Orton will retain. Odds are he will loose and fade back a little bit as HHH goes heel at some point and feuds with Cena for God knows how long... Orton... Welcome to the IC title race?
 
I get this whole Trips turning heel but how in hell are they going to do this unless he aligns himself with the McMahon family or takes out HBK, Because if takes out Cena that actually would gain more fans then heat.

Now as far as winner for this match to me i dont think it really matters, because at this point they all have there flaws in there ways. People will say HHH won because of his power, Cena won because Vince thinks he is the biggest star since slice bread, Orton has no heat or clout as he is a weak champ.
 

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