WM 29: The Undertaker vs. CM Punk [Streak Match]

[Jaffa]

CM Punk should break the streak just because he had to drop the title for reasons that I'm still trying to make sense with, but just can't.

CM Punk because he held the title for 434 days would you have liked him to be champion for ever? Punk had been a transitional champion for the Rock since he turned heel and even the rock wasn't around he would of lost it to Ryback at Hell in a cell. I'll try and make some sense for you though Punk= average draw and ratings and average money Rock= big draw big rating and big money. You can try and disagree with me but last wrestlemania was the most bought ever do you think it would have been if the main event was Punk vs Jericho compared to Rock vs Cena. Professional wrestling is a business to make money if you want to watch technical wrestling and real old fashioned wrestling I believe there is amateur wrestling for you to watch.

None we had destroyed your terrible logic Taker should win lets say WWE want to give someone a rub by letting them end Takers streak should a guy turning 35 this year do it or should a guy who will be around for a long time. HMMM decisions decisions decisions I like Punk but some people should really get over him also do I need remind you of there terrible 2009 feud.

 

[Justgwap]

You should watch 2009 Breaking Point. They may allow CM Punk to end the streak the same way they allowed him to be the first person in history to make him "Tap Out".
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[The Crock]

This is a no-brainer, Punk isn't going to end the streak. The streak means way too much to be ended right now, nor would it really make any sense. What's the payoff in having Punk beat 'Taker? He's already top heel, he's the number two guy on the roster behind John Cena, he's coming off a lengthy WWE Championship reign -- the way I see it, he' the perfect guy to lose this match. It's simple storytelling, really; the heel does awful things to the face for weeks (the stuff with the urn) and the face finally gets his redemption when they have their match. It's a simple, proven storyline for the WWE to run with and there's absolutely nothing wrong with simplicity. Punk should lose. There shouldn't be any Shield interferences, no disqualifications/count outs, forget that stuff -- Punk will try, but he should ultimately lose here. The streak survives.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

You should watch 2009 Breaking Point. They may allow CM Punk to end the streak the same way they allowed him to be the first person in history to make him "Tap Out".
Reply with your thoughts

My thought is that Punk will hit one GTS, Taker will kick out. Then he'll go for another GTS, but 'Taker will turn it into a tombstone but Punk will kick out. Then Punk will go for his submission move but Taker will hit the triangle choke on him and Punk will tap out.

 

[Sheamus' Suntan]

'This match is a foregone conclusion - the streak will stay alive.'​

Pretty much the cry of the IWC...and in this instance, I've gotta agree. There's nothing SIGNIFICANT about the loss if it happens. I mean...here we are, Taker's done 20. A loss is...fitting but would kill the legacy. It's wrestlemania 29. So that one means nothing too. In the end, the streak has no REASON to end - oh and WWE have done that thing. You know. THAT thing.

They've given Punk ALL the control of the feud. He's had all of the dice rolling his way since day one. That means one thing and one thing only; Taker will win it.

I do think it'll be physical, I do think it'll be insane but I also believe it'll end the same way it always does. Taker has no reason to lose right now, maybe...just maybe itll happen at mania XXX.

 

[rerun406]

oh yeah no doubt, after tonight's RAW with Punk gaining the upper hand via a beatdown with the urn .. that solidified it for me that Taker's going to win come Mania

the classic give wrestler A the upper hand going into PPV .. Wrestler B wins on PPV. I remember the same thing going into WM14 with HBK-Austin

all that said, Punk will likely lose like we all know, but what about going forward?

I know Taker has got to have heard a lot of the rumors of him potentially facing John Cena @ WM XXX, wonder how Taker feels about that option.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

oh yeah no doubt, after tonight's RAW with Punk gaining the upper hand via a beatdown with the urn .. that solidified it for me that Taker's going to win come Mania

the classic give wrestler A the upper hand going into PPV .. Wrestler B wins on PPV. I remember the same thing going into WM14 with HBK-Austin

all that said, Punk will likely lose like we all know, but what about going forward?

I know Taker has got to have heard a lot of the rumors of him potentially facing John Cena @ WM XXX, wonder how Taker feels about that option.

Heel John Cena vs. Undertaker would actually be awesome. Taker would probably still win but THAT is the way they should go if it's going to be Cena vs. Undertaker.

 

[The Warlord]

A Cena/Taker match at WM 30 in Texas...theres no way Cena will be anything but the heel, at least on that night.

Taker isnt losing to anyone at Mania ever. All WWE can do is TRY and make us believe that it can end..

 

[Compound_Lotus]

As awesome as CM Punk has been this past year and as much as he deserves to be defending the WWE Championship he held for over 400 days at Wrestlemania he is instead facing the Undertaker. And that is by no means a consolation prize. CM Punk is going to give us one of the most believable Streak matches we have ever seen. As good as the quality of the matches the last four years have been there was very little room to argue that Undertaker would lose to soon to be retirees Shawn Michaels and Triple H. The Streak is as much of a shoe in as it gets but the most diehard CM Punk supporters truly believe that this is the year the streak ends. I mean doesn't it have to end at some point? Isn't the point of the streak to have someone break it and get over huge? Catapulting themselves to a level noone else will ever achieve? CM Punk has made a career out of hurdling over obstacles but I don't see him beating the Deadman. He doesn't need it. CM Punk is a Hall of Famer and he has been built up as a credible threat to the Streak. But that's what makes it interesting. Undertaker will go 21-0 at Wrestlemania this year. I truly don't know if the streak will ever end.

 

[Mr. HD]

The Streak should never end. If they were going to end it, they would've already ended it. Hell, they would've ended it last year if they wanted to.

This feud started out slow, but it's picked up the last two weeks. It's been a solid feud, but it's had its flaws. They focused WAY too much on the death of Paul Bearer to advance the storyline. It was about the streak, not avenging Paul Bearer. But now it's both with the streak taking the backseat.

Anywho, nothing from the last few weeks tells me that Punk has not even a remote shot of ending the streak. Punk has pretty much shit on Undertaker all month except last Monday. The bully is gonna get what's coming to him this Sunday. That's how it always works out. Taker is gonna go 21-0, get the urn back, and do one last salute to Paul Bearer.

I love Punk, but this feud spelled Taker is gonna win from the get.

 

[MCMG]

The Streak should never end. If they were going to end it, they would've already ended it. Hell, they would've ended it last year if they wanted to.

This feud started out slow, but it's picked up the last two weeks. It's been a solid feud, but it's had its flaws. They focused WAY too much on the death of Paul Bearer to advance the storyline. It was about the streak, not avenging Paul Bearer. But now it's both with the streak taking the backseat.

Why would they have ended it by now? Taker is still physically able to perform. If they can get an extra few Manias out of the streak than that makes perfect business sense. They would end the streak when Taker is about to retire because it would be of little use - except from a DVD and a T-shirt.

I agree about the feud. I have enjoyed it but I think that it could have been even better. They should have played on the fact that Taker has one match a year but still gets praise. Punk was the champ for 365 days of the year - doing all the house shows etc. Even listing all the people that Punk has faced compared to just HHH for Taker. That would have been another way to make this feud better in my opinion.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

I agree about the feud. I have enjoyed it but I think that it could have been even better. They should have played on the fact that Taker has one match a year but still gets praise. Punk was the champ for 365 days of the year - doing all the house shows etc. Even listing all the people that Punk has faced compared to just HHH for Taker. That would have been another way to make this feud better in my opinion.

Personally, i didn"t really enjoy the feud mostly because it became more about the death of Paul Bearer and less about undertaker'S streak. This was a match that actually sold himself. Like you said all they had to do is point out the fact that Punk has been the face of the WWE for more then a year as the WWE Champion and Taker only show up once a year and while the streak is an impressive accomplishment, it's not has impressive as Punk'S title reign. Then for the rest of the time until Wrestlemania you have both guys trying to play mind games with each other and this would lead to some sort of physical altercation on the last raw before mania.

The build up was so simple to do and didn't need all this crap they did to build it up. But sadly with Vince starting to lose his mind, so does the WWE creative team because the build up to wrestlemania was horrible this year.

 

[Shocky]

The WWE can thank Punk and Taker for having me remotely interested in purchasing this card. This match is it. Not the title, not the other rematch, but this good old fashioned hate filled match.

Punk has done enough over the weeks to get you more and more pissed off with him. It started off as an innocent little mocking of Bearer, and has escalated into me wanting Punk to get murdered at Wrestlemania by the Undertaker. Yes, it has been cartoonish at times, but does that really matter?

My Pick: The Undertaker. This is easy, the streak isn't ending, but it won't make the match any less enjoyable. Punk has proven he is the best worker in the WWE over the last two years (Sorry Cena fans) and Taker has proven his worth at Mania over the last decade (he's had the best match on the card 6 times since Mania 20). These two are going to be given adequate time to put on something special. Make no mistake about it, Taker is going destroy Punk, and the Punk fan meltdown afterwards is going to be priceless.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Make no mistake about it, Taker is going destroy Punk, and the Punk fan meltdown afterwards is going to be priceless.

I really hope 'Taker makes Punk tap out. The reaction from the Punk marks is going to priceless if that happens.

"Undertaker sucks"
"He's 50+ years old, it makes no sense to have him 'bury' Punk like that."
"It should have ended in a draw"
"Punk should have ended the streak"
"The Tombstone is a terrible finisher"

That's going to be hilarious.

 

[The Warlord]

Its not about who's going to win but how its going to end..

Is there a way to counter the anaconda vise and turn it into hells gate?

Nah screw it..,would like to see Punk get tombstoned straight to hell.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

a heel Cena? Nah highly doubt it, Cena's probably going to be the same stale face who gets mixed reactions for the rest of his career

By mixed, you mean 100% of the audience is making noise and really in no way chanting about the other guy unless its Rock? You have been worked.



Taker/Punk is the likely MOTN. Punk the person has seemed to have wanted this type of mega match for a while. Here's his chance. I'd like to see Punk win. Then Rock retains vs Cena. Punk loses to Rock again at Extreme Rules then Ziggles cashes in. That's what I'd do but I'm probably wrong.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Undertaker can't lose at Wrestlemania....he just can't....

Or can he?

I have been thinking about a Punk win for a few weeks in this match. He is already the number 1 heel in the company and ending the legendary streak of the Undertaker could take Punk's heel character to the next level, and WWE do make a good job of making us believe that the challenger has a shot each year, when we all know 'taker is likely to win.

However, the stuff Punk has been doing/saying about Paul Bearer over the last few weeks, without any kind of comeback from Undertaker makes me pretty confident that the Deadman will have his arm raised come Sunday. The bully almost always gets whats coming to him, especially at Wrestlemania, and I really cannot see Undertaker taking the abuse from Punk and then not nailing him with a Tombstone for the win at 'Mania. It IS going to happen.

Undertaker likely only has 1 more Mania in him after this, but I am pretty confident that he will be able to give us a great match as always this year.

 

[rerun406]

By mixed, you mean 100% of the audience is making noise and really in no way chanting about the other guy unless its Rock? You have been worked.


Punk loses to Rock again at Extreme Rules then Ziggles cashes in. That's what I'd do but I'm probably wrong.

I'm not the one getting worked, anyway you slice it, it's still pathetic that the #1 face of the company is getting noticeably mixed reactions. Yeah everybody doesn't have to like Cena, but that negativity and disdain towards Cena was punctuated with the BORING chant last RAW.

this is a guy who you're supposed to feel sympathy for and rally behind, yet Cena talked enough to get the dreaded boring chant. Really impressive that all the dislike turned to boredom.


Punk is not just a long shot to win @ Mania not just because it's vs Taker and potentially ending the streak, but I'd figure the WWE wants the story of WM to be Cena getting his redemption and getting back the title

**and why would Ziggler cash in on WWE champ? unless I'm mistaken his briefcase is for the World HW title. Unless theirs some kind of clause in it that says after xx amount of time without a cash in, briefcase holder can choose which title he wants to cash in on

Ziggler's gonna have to go for the World HW title, not the WWE belt.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Undertaker can't lose at Wrestlemania....he just can't....

Or can he?

Much of it might depend on how many WMs he thinks he has left. Undoubtedly, the reason he was surprise-inserted into that house show a month or so ago was to see for himself whether he could still go. If he figured he couldn't, we wouldn't be seeing this match on Sunday.

My guess is that Mark Calaway himself has no idea what might happen next year, or the years beyond that. His body must be shot to hell for this to even be a question, no? On the one hand, how many of us would like to have the work schedule Calaway does? Wrestle once a year, preceded by a few non-risk appearances to drum up business. As a common worker who has 3 weeks of vacation a year, I'm envious. In addition, the guy is considering retirement.....at age 48. Not too shabby, huh?

On the other hand, the physical tortures he's endured over his long career might make the 30 minutes he spends in the ring an exercise in agony. He does it because he wants the money, because he has fans he appreciates, and because his employer needs him to. Good, solid reasons.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking it year by year, determining how he feels and making the decision just a month or two before the event.

Can he lose? Sure, but the result will be determined by Mark Calaway, more than by WWE Creative, imo. If he desires to put someone over by allowing himself to be defeated; which would, in fact, make their career, he's the one calling the shots. If he's not concerned about that, he probably lets the company make the call.

In either case, do I think C.M. Punk should be the one to end the streak?

No.

Nothing at all against Punk, but I feel it will take a performer bigger than he to pull off an accomplishment the magnitude of ending Undertaker's streak.

But the Undertaker moves in mysterious ways.....isn't that the whole idea behind his character?

 

[The Eighties]

Punk is my second favourite wrestler of all time but I just can't get into this feud, I'm not offended by the use of Bearer's death, I just find it boring.

The only chance Punk has of winning is if Lesnar helps him, setting up Taker vs Lesnar for Mania 30 as Taker's last match, but I'm 99% Taker wins and faces Cena next year in what may be a title vs streak finale for the Deadman.

As for the match, I think given all the shit Punk has done he may well be on the end of a sustained whooping that will end up as being the reason he takes time off post-Mania.

 

[Carlito_Orton]

There's no doubt I'm looking forward to this match it's actually the match I'm most excited for despite the fact that I feel this is very predictable. I'm going with Taker in this one easily it'll be cool to see how close Punk gets to ending the streak though. I go into more detail in my reasoning in this prediction/simulation vid.
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[Dagger Dias]

This is my pick for the match of the night. CM Punk is capable of putting on a great match at almost any show, and The Undertaker's matches at Wrestlemania have in recent years been on a whole other level. That gives me reason to go into this match with rather high expectations. I'm looking forward to it, although not as much as I wish I could be. Punk doesn't feel like a threat to the streak. Like.... at all. After a lengthy title reign where he spent half of it not main eventing, as well as the losses recently to The Rock and John Cena, now we are supposed to believe he can end the streak?

That's the only problem I have going into the match. The build has been very well done otherwise. I expect it to go on toward the end of the evening, perhaps third to last with something like Brodus & Tensai VS Rhodes Scholars or Jericho VS Fandango going on in between it and the main event which is almost certainly going to be Rock VS Cena. The Undertaker is GOING to win. There is absolutely no chance of Cm Punk defeating him to end the streak. Zero. None. Will we still get a memorable match that could steal the show? Absolutely. Undertaker goes 21-0 after the match of the night, and he vanishes back into parts unknown afterwards while Punk moves on to his next feud.

DAGGER'S PREDICTION
The Undertaker will defeat CM Punk.

 

[Elchicano15]

I agree that this will be match of the night. The build has been ok. They really relied on Paul Bearer's death to help build it (which is fine, I never got offended) but had he not die I can't help to wonder how else they would go along with this feud. Perhaps use some of what they were originally going to go with before Paul Bearer's death as well. Anyway we'll see Taker win the match, reclaim the urn, Kane maybe comes out to celebrate and they both point at the tron for it to be 21-0 with perhaps the Paul Bearer photo.

 

[El Rev sXe]

The match that I'm looking forward, the match that for me is the reason for this year to watch Wrestlemania, the match that is a serious potential to be match of the night and steal the show.

CM Punk has a serious pressure in his shoulders to continue the new tradition, if you will, that Taker has freacking amazing matches at Mania, 4 years in a row! Talking about what's impressive.

Anyway, Punk has played really well his heel role, specially this last monday with all the ashes, covering himself with it, simply amazing. People were actually disturbed by it, and personally I think that is what a great heel should do, make you as uncomfortable as you can get and just wait to see the face beat the living crap out of the heel.

While I love Punk and I think he should end the streak, he doesn't stand a chance. With all the thing around Paul Bearer's death it is simply the right move for the Undertaker to win. Like I said Punk doesn't stand a chance, but his role is not to prove us that he is a menace but prove us that he can deliver the match of the night and tell one hell of a story inside the ring.

The Undertaker wins, 21-0.

 

[InsomniaMusic]

A 2 out of 3 match is absolutely genius it would have given Punk something nobody has had a win against Undertaker and it would keep the Streak alive with Undertaker winning 2 out of 3