Vote To Legalize Marijuana

Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker said:
OK here is the difference

You have to want to die if someone should even considering euthanizing someone. Animals have no voice so it's up for the owner to make the decision if the animal is suffering and needs to be put down.
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If the animal has no voice, how does the owner know it wants to die? Perhaps it would rather hold on to the time it has left?
 
Holy shit, a Todd post I can actually respond to with some degree of sanity.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker said:
OK here is the difference

You have to want to die if someone should even considering euthanizing someone. Animals have no voice so it's up for the owner to make the decision if the animal is suffering and needs to be put down. You put down a animal when it has no fight left. Also most animals that get put down have already lived a pretty good life and not a 7 year old girl who still has a whole life to live. This girl clearly doesn't want to die and still has fight in her. The cannabis oil is helping her leave a life with less pain and is able to act more like how a regular 7 year old girl should act.
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This is the correct answer, minus all that completely unproven and untested stuff about cannabis oil. We place a higher value on human life than we do animal life. This is why killing an animal is not considered the equivalent of killing a human being. That's the justice in the difference between human and animal crimes which you overlook in the search for your own personal justice.

You don't understand the foundations of law at all. They're actually quite fair. Follow most of them, accept the consequences for the ones you break, and try to change the ones you disagree with. Part of the reason there's a universal tide here to get you to stop talking is we believe that by promoting ridiculous studies by organizations dedicated to legalizing marijuana, while accusing organizations having no stake in marijuana's legalization or decriminalization of bias, you look like an insane druggie who is an example of every negative aspect of pot.

Instead of just saying "I want to smoke marijuana, and what business is it of yours if I do it privately", you have to bullshit people with this crap about how it cures cancer, heals the sick, and is the root of murder and violence. No one thinks you really give a shit about these people; we all think you're using them because you want to get stoned.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker said:
No one cares about the list because they know they can't prove me wrong. Well why can't we examine both sides of that list? Is it because you can't. I have been trying to dicuss both sides but you don't really give me much. They just insult me and act like they are right. When I have been showing fact after fact and all the wrongs that marijuana being illegal causes. There also isn't much to talk about the other side I already discussed it. The fact that like 6 people are the ones who are going against me doesn't say much. When more than half of America want to see marijuana legalized for medical and recreational purposes It is a land slide victory for the positive effects from marijuana and hemp than the negative effects.
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Six people are the ones talking to you right now. I'm sure there's a great big invisible audience that agrees with every argument you make. Why don't you get any of them to step forward? Maybe there are other boards you talk on where you could convince someone to come on over here and bolster your opinion?

BTW, look up what a "strawman" argument is. It's when you tell your opponent in a debate what their position is, and demand they defend that position. It's considered bullshit. I can give you an outsized example that would go way the fuck over your head and entertain anyone still reading, however.
 
ocekit said:
Explain to me why it is a dumb question. I simply narrowed in on a point you made and played Devil's Advocate with that point.
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First off I can't decide if she should be euthinazed or either can you. The only people who can make that decision is the girl and the parent. Why kill her when she wants to live. You're not going to put a animal down for shits and giggles. Putting you’re pet down is one of the hardest decisions a person has to make. It's up for the human to be smart enough when the animal is suffering. Like I said before most animals that get put down is because they are terribly sick and can’t be cured. Also most get put down after living a long life with a loving family. I'm not sure if you ever had to put down a pet that you loved but it's hard to do. I'd rather know that animal lived a long good life and didn't have to suffer. This girl doesn't want to die she is only 7 and has a life to live. If she were to say that she wants to die that would be a different story but this article is about how the cannabis oil is working for her at living a more peaceful life. So don't throw out off topic comments.
 
Rayne said:
Instead of just saying "I want to smoke marijuana, and what business is it of yours if I do it privately", you have to bullshit people with this crap about how it cures cancer, heals the sick, and is the root of murder and violence. No one thinks you really give a shit about these people; we all think you're using them because you want to get stoned.
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I want to be able to smoke and have everyone be able to do it in their own privacy without worrying that they could get arrested for smoking a harmless plant with thousands and thousands of benefits. I never said that it cures cancer or it is a root of murder and violence. Look at all the victims who have suffered from marijuana being illegal. For the first time you actually angered me by saying that I don't care for those people. I care for every person and dog that I posted about. I care very much for people who have to sit behind bars. I care for Chris Williams spending the rest of his life in prison for providing medicine to terminally ill and disabled patients. I care for all the medical marijuana patients that have to suffer when a dispensary gets raided. I want everyone to be able to get stoned in peace and not be labeled a criminal or a druggie. I know all the positives from marijuana that is why I think it is important for our world to be re educated on marijuana.

Six people are the ones talking to you right now. I'm sure there's a great big invisible audience that agrees with every argument you make. Why don't you get any of them to step forward? Maybe there are other boards you talk on where you could convince someone to come on over here and bolster your opinion?QUOTE]

More than half of America agrees with me. Which is far greater from the small number of people here who say I'm wrong an dumb. Without proving me wrong.
 
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker said:
More than half of America agrees with me. Which is far greater from the small number of people here who say I'm wrong an dumb. Without proving me wrong.
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If more than half of America agrees with you, then you should have NO problem finding someone else from outside of these boards to help vouch for your position. After all, apparently you've now discussed this idea with over half of America, who has gotten to hear your positions, right? You're not just pulling that "well invisible people must agree with me, so there" trope, are you?

I've heard your ideas.

I think pot should be decriminalized.

I also think you're a fucking idiot.

There is room to believe both positions.
 
See, if he had just come out in the beginning, and had been honest with us that this was all about him and what he wants (which most of us could tell), I wouldn't have posted half as many times. Sure, go ahead and smoke, in your own house/apartment. I won't begrudge you that, seeing as I used to do that myself (before I grew up and realized that it wasn't getting me anywhere). Just don't piss and moan about the laws if you get caught. Don't bring in examples that are easily explained away.

Admit it Todd, this isn't about that kid who was shot by police because they thought they saw a gun in his waistband of his pants. This isn't even about that kid who was denied an unproven medication. This is about YOU, and what YOU want to do.
 
BuffyFan said:
See, if he had just come out in the beginning, and had been honest with us that this was all about him and what he wants (which most of us could tell), I wouldn't have posted half as many times. Sure, go ahead and smoke, in your own house/apartment. I won't begrudge you that, seeing as I used to do that myself (before I grew up and realized that it wasn't getting me anywhere). Just don't piss and moan about the laws if you get caught. Don't bring in examples that are easily explained away.

Admit it Todd, this isn't about that kid who was shot by police because they thought they saw a gun in his waistband of his pants. This isn't even about that kid who was denied an unproven medication. This is about YOU, and what YOU want to do.
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I'm going to bring in as many examples that I can. I'm going to show you how big of a failure marijuana being illegal. I'm going to show you how they real crime is how we treat all these victims of marijuana. I'm going to show you all the benifits from marijuana. I'm going to show you all the benefits from hemp and marijuana. Not even you can prove anything on my list wrong. You can't prove to me why there are more negative effects from marijuana and hemp than positives. There are no good reasons at all that marijuana is illegal, not even one good reason. Especially when we have alcohol, tobacco, and prescription medicine that are legal and they are three of the world's biggest killers. Those three can do so much harm to a person and tobacco kills around 450,000 people a year. Marijuana kills 0 people a year and there still has yet to be a death from marijuana in it's entire history of being around. People who smoke marijuana are not criminals. I'm going to show as many victims from marijuana being illegal as I can. The only crime is by the people who lock up people who smoke marijuana.


This is about every single person who has been a victim from marijuana being illegal. Maybe if you had a heart and thought about how these victims feel you would be thinking in a whole different way. I care about every single victim who has suffered from the prohibition of marijuana. Don't you think it is messed up how more people have died while in prison when they were there for marijuana than people who actually smoke marijuana. Well that is pretty easy to have more since 0 people have died from smoking marijuana. There is too much prove that shows that marijuana has so many benefits and can do wonders for people. I want to be able to smoke marijuana legally as much as I want every one else to be able to smoke. I want marijuana legal so sick people who depend on that marijuana won't have to worry about their dispensary getting raided. I want any person who is legally able to grow marijuana not have to worry about spending the rest of their life in prison. I want every prisoner for marijuana to be free and have no one else to be arrested for marijuana again. Admit it BuffyFan that you can’t prove what I say wrong. Admit that there is no good reason for marijuana to be legal.


If you had a heart or cared about people you would understand what I'm talking about.
 
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker said:
I'm going to bring in as many examples that I can. I'm going to show you how big of a failure marijuana being illegal. I'm going to show you how they real crime is how we treat all these victims of marijuana. I'm going to show you all the benifits from marijuana. I'm going to show you all the benefits from hemp and marijuana. Not even you can prove anything on my list wrong. You can't prove to me why there are more negative effects from marijuana and hemp than positives. There are no good reasons at all that marijuana is illegal, not even one good reason. Especially when we have alcohol, tobacco, and prescription medicine that are legal and they are three of the world's biggest killers. Those three can do so much harm to a person and tobacco kills around 450,000 people a year. Marijuana kills 0 people a year and there still has yet to be a death from marijuana in it's entire history of being around. People who smoke marijuana are not criminals. I'm going to show as many victims from marijuana being illegal as I can. The only crime is by the people who lock up people who smoke marijuana.


This is about every single person who has been a victim from marijuana being illegal. Maybe if you had a heart and thought about how these victims feel you would be thinking in a whole different way. I care about every single victim who has suffered from the prohibition of marijuana. Don't you think it is messed up how more people have died while in prison when they were there for marijuana than people who actually smoke marijuana. Well that is pretty easy to have more since 0 people have died from smoking marijuana. There is too much prove that shows that marijuana has so many benefits and can do wonders for people. I want to be able to smoke marijuana legally as much as I want every one else to be able to smoke. I want marijuana legal so sick people who depend on that marijuana won't have to worry about their dispensary getting raided. I want any person who is legally able to grow marijuana not have to worry about spending the rest of their life in prison. I want every prisoner for marijuana to be free and have no one else to be arrested for marijuana again. Admit it BuffyFan that you can’t prove what I say wrong. Admit that there is no good reason for marijuana to be legal.


If you had a heart or cared about people you would understand what I'm talking about.
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I have a plenty big heart. For people who don't knowingly commit crimes. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Marijuana should not be legal. I also don't believe it should be illegal. There's a grey area in there, called decriminalization, that would be best. If somebody wants to smoke and kill a few brain cells, so be it. I've no problems there. I've already admitted that I used to partake. Just don't try to martyr yourself, or in this case, other people. Fact of the matter is, it's still illegal. If you get caught, I fully support the letter of the law.

Also, I want to point out that bolded phrase there. That's either a massive Freudian slip (you do know what that means, right?), or you just forgot a couple letters. Either way, I will now leave this tired argument. I've got better things to do. Like find another job to supplement my income.
 
Rayne said:
If more than half of America agrees with you, then you should have NO problem finding someone else from outside of these boards to help vouch for your position. After all, apparently you've now discussed this idea with over half of America, who has gotten to hear your positions, right? You're not just pulling that "well invisible people must agree with me, so there" trope, are you?

I've heard your ideas.

I think pot should be decriminalized.

I also think you're a fucking idiot.

There is room to believe both positions.
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But decriminalizing marijuana doesn't solve much. Marijuana needs to be legal under federal law. Marijuana needs to be legal every where in the whole world. Marijuana is the the worlds greatest plant in the world.


http://blog.norml.org/2012/11/29/ang...hin-ten-years/

http://reason.com/poll/2012/11/14/73-percent-of-americans-think-medical-ma

http://www.naturalnews.com/038118_marijuana_prohibition_cops_federal_government.html

Here is a pretty large group of people on my side that I didn’t just pull out of a hat. That is more than half of Americans and Canadians think that marijuana needs to be legal. Even cops across America are saying that marijuana being illegal is wrong and needs to be legalized.

REMEMBER!!!!!!!

MARIJUANA DOESN’T KILL
PROHIBITION KILLS
LEGALIZE MARIJUANA
 
BuffyFan said:
I have a plenty big heart. For people who don't knowingly commit crimes. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Marijuana should not be legal. I also don't believe it should be illegal. There's a grey area in there, called decriminalization, that would be best. If somebody wants to smoke and kill a few brain cells, so be it. I've no problems there. I've already admitted that I used to partake. Just don't try to martyr yourself, or in this case, other people. Fact of the matter is, it's still illegal. If you get caught, I fully support the letter of the law.

Also, I want to point out that bolded phrase there. That's either a massive Freudian slip (you do know what that means, right?), or you just forgot a couple letters. Either way, I will now leave this tired argument. I've got better things to do. Like find another job to supplement my income.
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If you had a heart and cared for people you would realize that all these people who you say knowingly break the law are actually victims


Then give me all the reasons why marijuana should not be legal.

Marijuana is already legal in Colorado and Washington and will be legal in every state and eventually around the entire world. I'm going to talk about marijuana and show all the benefits because that is what right. It is wrong that we have people locked up an treat people the way we do for smoking marijuana. We need to work on re educating people on marijuana. This time we will actually tell people the truth.


REMEMBER!!!

MARIJUANA DOESN’T KILL
PROHIBITION KILLS
LEGALIZE MARIJUANA
 
This may be all my fault.

See, a professor told me a long time ago that if you were unable to communicate with a person, the reason was almost certainly the method you were using as opposed to a genuine inability to communicate. I made the repeated mistake of trying to talk to you, PPSGF, using words several times, despite knowing full well that using words and what they mean is a very serious disability for you.

And so I've came up with a series of pictures that should help you to understand the concepts that are at work here. I've used Comic Sans because I figured it would be the font most likely to appeal to you.

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Here, we have a Venn diagram illustrating the opinions of people on marijuana. You can see that despite there being a disagreement on whether pot should be legal or illegal, there is universal agreement that you are an idiot.

A frequent trope you've taken to using is "well even though everyone here thinks I'm an idiot, there's everyone else on the planet." So I've taken the liberty of putting them into a diagram form.

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The white box contains everyone in existence. The blue circle represents people who have met you, and the yellow circle represents people who think you're an idiot. You may ask why there is no red circle, and that is because the people who think you're intelligent don't fucking exist.

Hopefully this has cleared up some of the very low-level concepts being discussed here in this thread which have evaded you thus far.
 
To be honest, I didn't read all of your response to the question I posed. I admit I threw out the question to alleviate some boredom and be a little irritating.:shifty:
 
You are too funny Rayne

After I show you all the support for legalizing marijuana and showing you that more than half of Americans and Canadians think it should be legal. So since you can't prove any of what I say wrong. You go out of your way to make a Venn diagram that means and proves nothing.

That response really made you sound like a complete idiot.

At least I post actual facts and not pretend Venn diagrams.
 
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