Vote To Legalize Marijuana

Pot MIGHT cause paranoia and that is a fact.

If you don't want to smoke then that's fine you don't have to smoke but don't come on here and start bashing me for talking about marijuana. Even if you don't like the way I presented my facts you could have said something like "I agree with some of the stuff you say but don't you think you acting a little to harsh" something like that would have been fine. Saying things like my parents are dirty hippies or that I’m a moron is no way to say your right. I'm defensive about the things I'm passionate about and if your going to insult me just for that I'm going to insult you back.
 
Pot MIGHT cause paranoia and that is a fact.

If you don't want to smoke then that's fine you don't have to smoke but don't come on here and start bashing me for talking about marijuana. Even if you don't like the way I presented my facts you could have said something like "I agree with some of the stuff you say but don't you think you acting a little to harsh" something like that would have been fine. Saying things like my parents are dirty hippies or that I’m a moron is no way to say your right. I'm defensive about the things I'm passionate about and if your going to insult me just for that I'm going to insult you back.

I didn't say your parents were dirty hippies. I only said you were a moron because you didn't understand Nate's sarcasm and took it literally. I don't give a rat's ass that you smoke pot, my problem is how present your so-called 'facts' and how you insult people that are more intelligent than you, but disagree with you. You're links comprise of Facebook links and youtube videos. That is not proof of anything. Proof is something like a scientific article or government document. No videos or articles written by biased potheads like yourself, who have no business studying anything let alone the affects of marijuana. You say you've never suffered paranoia from marijuana but you admitted yourself, like I also said, it all depends on the person so you can't 'inform' me how you think it'll affect me because you're not me.
 
I didn't say your parents were dirty hippies. I only said you were a moron because you didn't understand Nate's sarcasm and took it literally. I don't give a rat's ass that you smoke pot, my problem is how present your so-called 'facts' and how you insult people that are more intelligent than you, but disagree with you. You're links comprise of Facebook links and youtube videos. That is not proof of anything. Proof is something like a scientific article or government document. No videos or articles written by biased potheads like yourself, who have no business studying anything let alone the affects of marijuana. You say you've never suffered paranoia from marijuana but you admitted yourself, like I also said, it all depends on the person so you can't 'inform' me how you think it'll affect me because you're not me.
The dirty hippies part was directed at Bacon Bits. It would create less confusion if Todd would quote people.
 
asking me to show you evidence of things that don't exist.

Can I break this down for you?

You have claimed numerous times that the government has spread lies about marijuana causing brain damage, or whatever. Youve only shown 'evidence' of this in videos of commedians interspliced with black and white footage from the twilight zone saying "whoah, when I was a kid I was sure this stuff made you die or something". I'm asking you for ONE specific direct comment from a government official (not from weedisgood.com or your other reputable sources), or an official document, showing the lies that they are spreading.

You cant claim that they are spreading lies AND that there is no evidence that they are spreading lies. They either are or they are not. You have claimed numerous times that they are, I am simply asking for a source.

Can you provide this?
 
You cant claim that they are spreading lies AND that there is no evidence that they are spreading lies. They either are or they are not. You have claimed numerous times that they are, I am simply asking for a source.

Can you provide this?

No, he can't. He doesn't understand how to Google. However with very little effort I was able to find some pro pot propaganda from 1942.

http://youtu.be/p52Epx6lJes
 
No, he can't. He doesn't understand how to Google. However with very little effort I was able to find some pro pot propaganda from 1942.

http://youtu.be/p52Epx6lJes

I could not be bothered even googling, but i assume some political party was against the recent legalization of weed in certain American states? So surely there is some very easily found articles or comments.

I'm really just highlighting how tremendously one sided Todds reading to date has been and that he's either making up alot of the things he's argueing against or is incredibly niaive and gullable.
 
I could not be bothered even googling, but i assume some political party was against the recent legalization of weed in certain American states? So surely there is some very easily found articles or comments.

I'm really just highlighting how tremendously one sided Todds reading to date has been and that he's either making up alot of the things he's argueing against or is incredibly niaive and gullable.

Same here, I'm actually for the legalization of pot. Just not if that fucking moron is the one making the argument. There are so many good arguments that can made for it's legalization and that fucking guy can't make one good argument.

All it comes down to with him is weed is good cops are bad and this magic plant can solve crime, health, and the economy all in one. I don't know how it does any of this and I can't produce any documents or evidence showing it will, but I'm right and ya'll are all just big meanies.
 
Same here, I'm actually for the legalization of pot. Just not if that fucking moron is the one making the argument. There are so many good arguments that can made for it's legalization and that fucking guy can't make one good argument.

All it comes down to with him is weed is good cops are bad and this magic plant can solve crime, health, and the economy all in one. I don't know how it does any of this and I can't produce any documents or evidence showing it will, but I'm right and ya'll are all just big meanies.

He hates hammers to. He says they should be illegal. Potential harm. I can quote him on that.
 
Can you tell me what part I;m making up? Please Mack Militant don't ask me why I said your a moron when you keep asking ******ed questions. So once again you are a moron who either can't read or just stupid. Can you please don't ask me again?

I showed you the video with how the government said marijuana causes brain damage it is not just comedians they even show where their sources came from.

The evidence is that not a single person who has died from smoking marijuana. We have medical marijuana. What about all the cancer patients that got cancer from smoking marijuana. Just like they have no evidence that marijuana is a gateway drug. The stuff that was said about marijuana was just said without providing any evidence. You say I'm making it up when I provide evidence. I don't need to show you that marijuana isn't that bad for you it is common sense.

http://norml.org/library/item/your-government-is-lying-to-you-again-about-marijuana

There is a long list of lies

http://norml.org/library/item/endnotes-2

Those are all the sources of where they came from.

Read the book The Emperor Wears No Cloths by. Jack Herer that book shows all the lies and how marijuana can be good for the body if used right. He collected years worth of data and a put it all in that book. It’s a good read and a book I think is a must reader.

If you keep asking me for evidence then how about you show me scientific evidence that marijuana will kill you if you smoke it or show me how marijuana is a gateway drug. Why don’t you show me how smoking marijuana will make black people play the devil’s music and show me scientific evidence that jazz is the devil’s music.


Big Daddy Awesome

Since you claim your good at making good arguments on marijuana legalization then give me one.
 
If you keep asking me for evidence then how about you show me scientific evidence that marijuana will kill you if you smoke it or show me how marijuana is a gateway drug.
I did post several sources stating that marijuana doubled the incidence of testicular cancer, but you brushed by that by saying that other things will kill you too, so no one should worry. Just a reminder.
 
Yeah I didn't brush it off.

There has yet to be one recorded case of testicular cancer directly caused by smoking marijuana. All they did was that it might cause testicular cancer. The positive benefits from marijuana outweigh the negative ones. There thousands of other things that can cause cancer. What about tobacco? Each year over 443,000 people die from tobacco. Too much of anything in the end is bad for you.

http://cancer.about.com/od/testicularcancer/a/testiccancrrisk.htm

Here is another web site talking about causes and risk factors.

One suggest being white they state that white people have a higher rate at getting testicular cancer then any other race. So does that mean that white people should be illegal too since they have a higher testicular cancer rate? You can talk all you want but there is never no documented case of cancer caused from smoking marijuana.
 
That one thing is worse doesn't imply that something else isn't bad. The topic is marijuana, not tobacco, and you have a habit of saying "but what about this extra topic" whenever someone brings up something negative about marijuana. You're implying marijuana should be legal because tobacco is- why not make tobacco illegal?

You also completely misunderstand how scientific research works. We haven't said "does" or "will" in about five centuries, ever since we kinda got boned on the Law of Gravity. Now, we say "evidence suggests", "studies show", or other qualifiers which demonstrate that we don't know, we can never know, but the evidence at hand is suggestive of certain facts.

Whenever anyone claiming to be a scientist starts rattling off absolutes, he's a crackpot trying to sell you on something.

And, like I said, and you completely ignored, there isn't a single case of cancer that's been directly caused by doing anything. Instead, we talk in terms of activities creating increased risk of cancer. You can say "there's no documented case" all day, which is a completely meaningless statement fed to idiots to repeat because it sounds like something meaningful. There will never be a documented case. Instead, we speak in likelihoods. Since the increase in cases of cancer from tobacco usage- again, tobacco having nothing to do with the topic of marijuana- are so high, people frequently say "tobacco causes cancer", which is a scientifically inaccurate statement.

I do brush by almost all of what you have to say, because the little bit I do read is the mewling of an idiot child who does not deserve to be taken seriously.
 
I bring tobacco up because now your acting like marijuana is this terrible thing an should stay illegal because someone may get testicular cancer but hasn't yet when there are millions of different types of cancer related to tobacco. If tobacco kills and marijuana doesn't then tobacco should be illegal. If marijuana doesn't cause the the amount of harm to the body that tobacco does then marijuana should be legal everywhere. It's common sense to figure that out.

Maybe if you didn't brush by what I have to say then maybe you wouldn't leave such dumb comments all the time.

Big Daddy Awesome

I thought you said you are the world’s greatest person in the world on arguments about marijuana legalization. .
 
I bring tobacco up because now your acting like marijuana is this terrible thing an should stay illegal because someone may get testicular cancer but hasn't yet when there are millions of different types of cancer related to tobacco. If tobacco kills and marijuana doesn't then tobacco should be illegal. If marijuana doesn't cause the the amount of harm to the body that tobacco does then marijuana should be legal everywhere. It's common sense to figure that out.

Maybe if you didn't brush by what I have to say then maybe you wouldn't leave such dumb comments all the time.
You did it again. We aren't talking about tobacco, and when someone uses "common sense" to justify their argument, they're usually using anything but. If your justification for marijuana being legal is that tobacco is legal and more harmful, again, why not just make tobacco illegal too? Isn't that common sense?

I'm not talking as if marijuana is this "terrible thing that should stay illegal". You've gotten so hung up on trying to sell your viewpoint that you assume anyone who contradicts anything you have to say must be fighting directly against you. What I'm doing is taking an honest appraisal of the activities I participate in. I'm not trying to sell myself on a viewpoint that just because I do something, it must be a completely healthy and pure activity. There are risks involved, and as a responsible user of marijuana, it's important to educate yourself on those risks. That doesn't mean "well, it's never been definitively proven to be caused by only marijuana- even though that's impossible- so it must mean risks don't exist at all." It means using the information that exists to make a smart decision for yourself, not blinding yourself to information you don't want to hear in order to justify a point of view which you've already had. (That is what 'open-minded' means. You had a real problem with that definition earlier.)

There also aren't millions of types of cancer. Or thousands. Or hundreds. Dozens, perhaps, if we count the very rare ones.
 
Fuck you if you think I'm going to help you.
The worst thing is that I'm pro-decriminalization. But with Todd running around flapping his various insanity, I'm forced to take the position highlighting the negatives of marijuana usage so that other people who both don't smoke marijuana and vote won't get the impression that all people who smoke marijuana are mewling idiots.
 
Hey Todd, have you heard about Cash Hyde? So sad to hear the kid passed away. How about law enforcement showing up at his family's house during mourning? Aren't you outraged?
 
I bring tobacco up because now your acting like marijuana is this terrible thing an should stay illegal because someone may get testicular cancer but hasn't yet when there are millions of different types of cancer related to tobacco.

There are more than 200 different types of cancer. You can develop cancer in any body organ. There are over 60 different organs in the body where a cancer can develop.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can.../how-many-different-types-of-cancer-are-there

200 is not even close to a million, you loose.
 

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