TNA Castmembers

[Hulkamaniac]

First off, thanks for the the rep point and the welcome.

I have become increasingly perturbed by a section of wrestling fans for the last few years. I can understand why most have become jaded, bitter even, over the past 8 or 9 years - they have every reason to be. What i cant understand is how anyone can get behind these idiots. These guys have had absolutely no intention of giving Hogan or anyone else a chance and therefore there opinions are rendered inert. Doesn't matter what Hogan or anyone else did from Monday 4th January onwards, they were gonna crap on it. And they have.

Personally i believe there actually more pissed that none of the things that they thought would happen have happened; ie Hogan on top, young guys being squashed by older guys etc etc. They're pissed about that; so they complain about the stupidest things to cover up the fact that they were DEAD WRONG.

You arent ass "smart" as you like to believe you are, otherwise you would be workers and not armchair bookers

I agree. These people wouldn't have been happy if Hogan had walked into the ring on 1/4 and put AJ Styles over in a 30 second squash match. They had already decided what Hogan was going to do (take the title, squash everyone, etc.), and when it didn't happen, they had to scramble to find other things to complain about. I think the most important point that has been made a few times is that these guys think they are part of the show, and are most concerned with getting themselves over.

They want to be the old ECW crowds (which I also hated), but seriously, let it die. These guys are out their risking injury for you, the least you can do is watch the fucking match (they turned their back on Morley-Daniels) instead of being so blatantly disrespectful.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I also just want to emphasize one more thing, and that is another thing that is up for discussion.

Impact is currently free in its current state to the audience. Because it is a free show and you paid nothing to get into the Impact Zone, I think the show has more of a right to make certain requests of the audience IF the audience chooses to stay. You are a part of a studio audience, NOT an arena audience who pays admission.

From what I heard from the Director of Production, he did not ask anything unreasonable from the audience other than simply not to curse at anything.

He did refer to the Impact Zone as "castmembers" and I think that was a mistake for him to label wrestling fans with that terminology, especially a difficult smarky crowd like some in here who attend the Impact tapings, however, you do need to keep in mind that you are getting admission into a free show.

Just like if someone started cursing on Regis and Kelly, if you did that, they would kick you out of the studio audience. You are their guest and you aren't paying a dime. So since that's the case, why is it so difficult to follow a simple set of rules like not to curse?

So underworlderZer0, if you don't like what you are seeing, then simply don't go. Do what I did with WWE and simply stop going and stop supporting them. You going to a free show you aren't happy with only reinforces the things that you guys are being accused of in here, that you do what you do for attention and because of ego.

 

[Randolph H]

I just watched the so called damning video evidence. You have to be kidding me, seriously... Get a life. The producer in the ring said nothing wrong and did nothing wrong. Basically he was asking the audience to use common sense. The audio of yourselves make the few of you look childish. The convicts you of what many here feel that you are doing (attention seeking and trying to cause trouble no matter what).

If you can't behave yourselves... you really don't belong there. You all are lucky that you are not band from the building. I think they are going to really start cracking down on the people who have a junior high mentality.

You all helping tell a story. It is interactive entertainment. What you guys are doing is trying to ruin it for others. Basically you are at a huge family fun park. Stand in the middle of universal outside of the impact zone where there is really busy in your little crucial crew group and in unison chat "Bull Shit", see how long it takes for security to throw you out.

 

[Maestro48239]

I'm wondering, if enough TNA fans who watch at home and by the PPVs, complain, via Emails. tweets phone calls, etc. can we get these morons banned from the show? losing 12-20 assclowns to make the show more enjoyable wont hurt the revenue at all, as a matter of fact, it may make for a better product. I'm sure if word got out that the smarks got banned more people may tune in.Because after all the posts i've read, it seems like a lot of people arent buying the PPVs or turning off impact due to thes sniveling little cockstains. this is bad for business. and lets remember people, 1st and foremost, this is a fucking business!!!

 

[CrazyRant422]

So here it goes, yes I am an Impact regular in Orlando and I am going to address a few things in this post so bare with me...

First off when did wrestling become a platform for people to complain and whine and moan about the direction of company which they DO NOT PAY FOR and DO NOT WORK FOR, and how the product is going down and all of this rambling BS that you hear all of the time. When did you all start feeding in to the bull and ignoring that there is some sort of sport or art form that talented and stellar athletes are performing FOR ALL OF YOU not just a specific group. I have been hearing at TNA EVERY SINGLE DAY..."On this forum they are saying this" or "on twitter they said this to me" or "i heard from so and so that now they are going in this direction and it sucks."

You are WRESTLING FANS...you are not a wrestler, you are not an agent, you are not in production, hell your not even one of the guys who comes to sweep up the ring between matches. When did it become ok for you all to start acting like you OWN the product...there are people ALL OVER that building that do what they can to entertain ALL of you.

And all you see online now is We Hate the Crucial Crew...or all these people are hating on us cause we like to have fun...BOTH PARTIES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A BUNCH OF WHINERS!!! You guys are fighting because you don't like how the other group acts when they come to Impact...GET OVER YOURSELVES...and this is not one of those Anti-Crucial Crew posts because I will admit you guys are clever and VERY over with a lot of the guys in the back, but sometimes are also a little over the top but I can understand how this is a place where you guys come to enjoy yourselves. And for non members of the "Crucial Crew" I can see where you are coming from, it gets a little over bearing when you come there at the earliest time you can get into Universal and then someone gets put in the pit over you cause they know people, but if you want to be in that position stop sitting on your damn hands and do something. Granted some of the chants are stupid that the CC does however they are the FIRST ones to start chanting something out of dead silence no matter what it may be.

You all have a common goal, YOU ALL LOVE TNA WRESTLING and I agree with what the producer says the show can't go on without you guys...because if there were no fans or dead silence in the Impact Zone it would look pretty stupid. Concentrate more on the wrestling and the storylines...even with the older guys coming in that you might not like, they are not here because they have to be, they are here because they love doing what they do in front of the fans. So turning your backs to them when they come out is not mean or childish but downright disrespectful. Don't be those kind of fans, enjoy the product and help put it over because that is what we all want, to see TNA succeed in the future.

As for the haters on You Tube, dudes you honestly need to get a life because you took the time to belittle these CC guys and instead of being a man about it you hid in your tiny bedroom in your mom and dad's house and made an 8 minute video...you both need to get a job or a girlfriend.

I am not a hater, I am a wrestling fan, I can walk into that Impact Zone every time they are in Orlando and I can cheer who I like and boo who i don't like whether they be face or heel but I do it tastefully. Stop worrying about each other and crying on youtube or twitter or even on these forums, watch the product and support and in the end THAT is what is going to make TNA number 1.

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Here's a funny story about actually supporting TNA and the wrestlers.

A while ago I had the opportunity to visit TNA as a guest backstage, and attend some tapings. While there I met and had a conversation with AJ Styles. This was right at the beginning of one of his heel turns. I asked him what he liked better and he told me that he enjoys being a heel or face and feels that he can be a great heel but is rarely given the opportunity. A few other members of TNA said the problem is that AJ has been there so long and is such a part of TNA that fans will cheer him no matter what, and will not accept his heel persona.

Now that night during his match I started an "AJ sucks" chant. It started to catch on and we had a nice little AJ sucks chant in the impact zone, which AJ of course reacted to yelling things like "I'm great, what's wrong with you people?" Now this is kind of the opposite of what we are arguing here. Yes I specifically went out of my way to jeer AJ because he was a heel. He's a real nice guy, but as a heel, he wants to be booed. He and TNA do not want a "Boo AJ's actually a nice guy, he's only pretending!" chant or something.

My point here is that when you like a product that needs help to grow and what you are doing will be broadcast to the world...if you want to be part of that, then HELP them, don't hurt them. If you insist that you love TNA but disagree with someone, don't try to mess it up on TV. Talk to the guys that you claim to be friends with, email TNA, talk to Dixie on twitter. Just don't go out of your way to harm the product.

 

[JackBurton]

Here's a funny story about actually supporting TNA and the wrestlers.

A while ago I had the opportunity to visit TNA as a guest backstage, and attend some tapings. While there I met and had a conversation with AJ Styles. This was right at the beginning of one of his heel turns. I asked him what he liked better and he told me that he enjoys being a heel or face and feels that he can be a great heel but is rarely given the opportunity. A few other members of TNA said the problem is that AJ has been there so long and is such a part of TNA that fans will cheer him no matter what, and will not accept his heel persona.

Now that night during his match I started an "AJ sucks" chant. It started to catch on and we had a nice little AJ sucks chant in the impact zone, which AJ of course reacted to yelling things like "I'm great, what's wrong with you people?" Now this is kind of the opposite of what we are arguing here. Yes I specifically went out of my way to jeer AJ because he was a heel. He's a real nice guy, but as a heel, he wants to be booed. He and TNA do not want a "Boo AJ's actually a nice guy, he's only pretending!" chant or something.

My point here is that when you like a product that needs help to grow and what you are doing will be broadcast to the world...if you want to be part of that, then HELP them, don't hurt them. If you insist that you love TNA but disagree with someone, don't try to mess it up on TV. Talk to the guys that you claim to be friends with, email TNA, talk to Dixie on twitter. Just don't go out of your way to harm the product.

Totally agree mate.

Problem is though that a lot of fans have watched shoots online etc and have heard there favorite wrestlers talking about "feeling the fans" or "fans dictate the pace of the match" and now they think even if they're not a writer or on the booking committee, they're still in charge. They've bought into they're own hype - for the lack of a better term.

I can just see it now............."hey guys, we know how to put a match on or put an angle together better than a guy who's drawn money for 20 or 30 years - we're smarter than everyone else"

Someone defending these clowns said to us who think they're dipshits to "get over ourselves"

Take your own advise pal

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I just can't stop laughing at the whole Crucial Crew thing. That is way too funny. As if they're some real thugs in the Impact Zone in their purple shirts and white sunglasses. LOL


Hogan is in TNA to make these young guys some money, and if you can't see that this whole "All of Hogan's buddies showing up in TNA" thing is an angle to work these internet fans with their head up their ass then you got another thing coming.

Completely off topic I have to reply to the above poster about AJ. I met AJ too, and he's a helluva nice dude. Got a picture with him and my wife and myself. Love the guy.

We were at the Lockdown 2009 fan interaction and were just so impressed with how nice these guys are. They all legitimately appreciate the fans. The nicest of them all though were Nash, Tenay, and West.

Nash is a real peach. He is so genuine and so appreciative of his place. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a mark.

This "Crucial Crew" or whatever... I hate even saying that, I'd rather say this "group of marks" needs to be removed from the crowd. Give their tickets to someone who will act like they actually want to be there.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Anyone that actually knows their wrestling history knows that WCW folded because simply AOL Time Warner did not want anything to do with wrestlign anymore. It had nothing to do with Hulk Hogan or Eric Bischoff.

 

[fromthepit]

Anyone that actually knows their wrestling history knows that WCW folded because simply AOL Time Warner did not want anything to do with wrestlign anymore. It had nothing to do with Hulk Hogan or Eric Bischoff.

This is not new news my friend. I know that was the final nail in the coffin. Doubt that nail would have been struck if WCW were still running as it did 1996-1998 and making the money it was during that time when AOL stepped in. Yes I know my history. I was simply making it very easy for the impact zone regular to understand.

 

[NatureBoyFig4]

Thanks to the replacement link on WZ, I just watched the video of the speech that started this whole group of combined threads. Having finally seen it myself, I've had to rethink a lot of the points from my previous post. TNA wasn't telling their fans to "stick it" like I had thought. One thing that I'll still back up from my first post though is this: TNA made a huge mistake in pulling the video from Youtube and claiming "copyright infringement".

Why? The truth was on their side, and the fans needed to hear it. There was no "You'll cheer for Person A, boo Person B, and like it or else" speech, as some of us were lead to believe. All they did was politely ask the audience to show a little respect and act like civilized human beings, while the "fans" near the camera heckled them. Being able to see the speech from the beginning would have kept me, and possibly a lot of others, from making posts about them being "caught being anti-fan" in the first place.

In my opinion, TNA should have posted the video on their own website for everyone to see. Having it pulled due to so-called "copyright infringement" when it wasn't part of their show only added fuel to the fire for their opponents.

Hopefully, this won't be viewed as "spam", as it makes a new point in the thread.

 

[mymainman]

I have one rule regarding wrestling:

If it happens on a sanctioned TV show, whether live or taped, it's a work.

Just because the work is no longer "Wrestler A really does hate Wrestler B because Wrestler B slapped Wrestler A's wife", doesn't mean that the powerful minds of Russo, Bischoff and Hogan haven't worked out that if you want to catch a new generation of electronically connected, communicating and insightful young men, you will have to be more subtle about it.

These are no idiots, contrary to popular belief. They wouldn't have a job if they were.

Just joined because of all this hubbub here, and I'd also like to note that these Crucial Crew people are all giant self-important ******s who detract from the enjoyment of the show for me and apparently have no sense of perspective - case in point, the one on here who compared attending a free tv taping to watching a family member get raped.

However, going along with the "everything you see on tv is a work" discussion, what if - and I realize the likelihood of this is about 0.0000001% given the people running TNA - what if Shirt & Tie McGee is an actor on the TNA payroll, and we're all getting worked here? My mind might be blown.

I'd never want to see him in a match, but I'd consider paying to see him take a few punches to the face.

 

[eezy1]

Im a UK TNA fan and have been watching since around 06. I was pissed at seeing the 6 sided ring replaced with the normal squared circle too lol it looked so out of place and the colours were all wrong. It wasnt visually pleasing, the matt should of been had TNA colours or an emblem onit, just something to identify it with TNA as the 6-sided ring was. Morely v Daniels was a total waste of fcuking time and Morely was never gonna get over and he isnt doin Daniels any favors, like it or not. Kendrick is another guy that sucked in his match and RED saved it with some good spots. Kendrick shouldve stayed in the WWE, his gimmick with big Z was gettin over until he was mis-managed and they put all emphasis on the big guy Z. Anyway Kendrick isnt suited to the X-division with his style of wrestling. The other guys like the band were worth using because their names in the business will get TNA talent over. Kendrick, Morely and the ring are the biggest dissapointments so far.

 

[ChristianRivers]

All of this has to do with alienation. I would have rather had a slow build where we had a reason on television, an angle to get rid of the six sided ring. That way fans of the six sided ring wouldn't feel alienated by TNA going back to a 4 sided ring.

At first I wasn't a fan of the six sided ring but when I saw how the wrestlers worked in there it made sense to have a multidimensional ring as opposed to a traditional. I was a big fan of that hybrid ring. I don't think it's right to rip on the CC. Or any other wrestling fans for that matter. Because that is the one thing that unites us. We're all passionate wrestling fans, and some time our passion gets in the way of what's better for the business. Or what we're being told is better for business. So when this alienation wears off I think hardcore TNA fans will be willing to give Hogan & company a chance. And those of us who don't will go back to UFC, RoH, or whatever other company is out there that can fill the void from which TNA alienated us to begin with.

But just because somebody holds so much passion for something it's no reason to make them feel even more alienated. We should encourage each other more to either watch TNA, or move on.

I just don't understand where it benefits any of us to rip the shit out of a person who feels alienated by the direction TNA is headed. Especially after paying admission for Universal Studios so they could go watch wrestling. It wastes more time for you to blast somebody on a wrestling forum. Instead of just saying hey man I know you feel alienated by the direction that TNA is going in but stick around. When the alienation passes perhaps you'll feel different.

Wrestling fans have the right to cheer for whoever they want. And can express displeasure at whoever they want, whenever they want as well. I've heard worse things at Indy shows than at a WWE show. & I've never been to a TNA show even though I can get tickets dirt cheap but the reason I've never been is because I usually have something more important come up, and waiting for TNA to come back to the Desoto Civic Center is a lot better than wasting whatever bill money I have left. What most people fail to understand is at a live PPV, you're hot. Your passion takes over, and the fan in you comes out. You easily get lost in the show. There is nothing wrong with that but being a wrestling fan is also learning the psychology of being one. Next time you're at a show look around and people watch. If you didn't have these people who stuck to their core passions moments would not be created, and maybe one night a wrestler picks up on this energy, and delivers a 4 star match that you leave remembering being a part of.

So let's understand the psychology of being a wrestling fan but at the same time to the guys that call themselves the "CC" I will agree with the idea of not doing anything stupid. Chant, and express your displeasure. Go up to a producer before the show starts, or have a favorite wrestler score you some points by maybe throwing some tips to Hogan, and Bischoff so they can improve the programming. Then let loose when it comes to your passion. Being some place live is different than being there at a live taping. When you infringe on somebody else they don't take kindly to it but what the person watching at home has to understand is you're there to get lost in the show.

A TV Producer has no right to instruct you on how to be a fan. But don't let that detract from your experience. And also don't let your alienation keep up where you don't stick with what your passionate about. Become even more passionate. Do so much as going to school for business management, and tv and film production. Learn script writing, and then your next step is apply your resume, and work for a fledgling indy show who produces a little 2 bit TV show, and work your way up to the bigger companies. You may find yourself working for TNA where you can correct whatever injustices alienated you to begin with. However, lets understand why boo's, and other things happen. Just remember you have to take the steps to fix them if you ultimately want them to get fixed.

 

[boywithatoy]

I haven't had the chance to read all 24 pages of this thread but it seems the majority of people disagree with the "TNA regulars" and whilst I disagree with some of the tactics and attitude of the tna regulars and i'm actually on their side for the most part.

SWEARING: I do think the language should be toned down a bit. I'm not offended by swearing but you have to understand that TV bosses are never going to push a program where the audience are chanting "bullshit" so you are actually doing more damage by doing that. If you don't like it, what's wrong with just booing?

6 SIDED RING: I have no issues with tna changing to a 4 sided ring except maybe they should move the crowd barriers back cos it looks too cramped - not to mention it could be dangerous when doing moves outside the ring. However, it was installed for genesis at the last minute so i have to assume it's a factor they didn't consider until they set it up on the night so hopefully they will address this.

BOO FACES, CHEER HEELS?: Now this is where I am on the side of the tna regulars. The fans have the right to boo or cheer who they want and if the fans are booing "the wrong people" then the problem is in TNA's writing NOT the fans. TNA (or Russo to be more precise) love blurring the lines between heels and faces so what do they expect? For instance - some of the stuff hogan and bischof say is distinctly heel-ish yet they are meant to be faces (i think!). If Hogan essentially tells the fans "this is how it's going to be and IT'S TOUGH!" of course they are going to boo him!
Now, I don't have a problem with Sean Morely going over Daniels. After all, you get upsets in real sports all the time, but the problem I have here is that TNA have set their fued up all wrong. Hogan said it himself: TNA is all about "pro-wrestling, brother!" so when Morely starts the match off by giving a promo in the ring about how he has come to tna to make porn films and then Daniels comes out and says that his porn films have no place in TNA because TNA is about wrestling of course he's going to get cheered! I read somewhere that Vince Russo's favourite band is KISS. Does he know why they are called that? It stands for Keep It Simple Stupid. Perhaps he should take some of that advice and stop trying to blur the lines between face and heels and maybe the fans would know who the "right people" to boo are!

One final thing. If the tna regulars really care about TNA and it's not about getting on camera then there is a simple thing they can do. Move to the other side of the arena! That way they will still be heard and their passion will come through but people wont be able to accuse them of just being there to get their faces on camera.

 

[D-Man]

A TV Producer has no right to instruct you on how to be a fan. But don't let that detract from your experience. And also don't let your alienation keep up where you don't stick with what your passionate about. Become even more passionate. Do so much as going to school for business management, and tv and film production. Learn script writing, and then your next step is apply your resume, and work for a fledgling indy show who produces a little 2 bit TV show, and work your way up to the bigger companies. You may find yourself working for TNA where you can correct whatever injustices alienated you to begin with. However, lets understand why boo's, and other things happen. Just remember you have to take the steps to fix them if you ultimately want them to get fixed.

After reading through that sea of meaningless banter, this is the only paragraph that I wish to quote and address, since the rest of the post had little to nothing to do with being a TNA Castmember and part of the "CC".

First and foremost, the point that the WZ posters are trying to make is that the TNA audience members' hearts are in the right place, but their brains are up their asses. We understand that you only do what you do because you care about the product, but at what expense?? If you're all too blind to realize that your actions make the promotion look stupid on television, then there isn't much more we could do for you.

Now, just so you know, TNA is not telling you "how to be a fan". They are merely advising you on having proper etiquitte while being an audience member at their televised show. Basically, the "CC" is embarrassing them and making the product look like shit, so they're asking you to grow up for the sake of the growth of TNA. I fail to understand how all of you don't see this. Feel free to have fun at shows, but stop chanting things just to make your voices heard. You don't speak on behalf of the worldwide TNA audience. All you're doing is getting the 20-or-so members together, combining forces, and creating a collective voice at shows. The only problem is that you're not qualified to speak on behalf of the FULL wrestling audience, so all of you need to shut the hell up.

The "CC" needs to stop making excuses as to why their loud, annoying, smarky voices offer any positivity to TNA shows. The bottom line is that none of you are helping TNA... you're hurting them. And to make matters worse, you're hurting them to the point where they actually needed to step out from behind the curtain, patronize you a bit, and kindly tell you to shut the fuck up. Open your eyes, for cryin out loud...

 

[Pedro08]

The "CC" needs to stop making excuses as to why their loud, annoying, smarky voices offer any positivity to TNA shows. The bottom line is that none of you are helping TNA... you're hurting them. And to make matters worse, you're hurting them to the point where they actually needed to step out from behind the curtain, patronize you a bit, and kindly tell you to shut the fuck up. Open your eyes, for cryin out loud...

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here. I get that you hate the fans in teh pit. You and many people have made it abundantly clear, but to say that they offer no positivity to the show is just plain wrong.

You can't deny that part of what made the Jan. 4th show stand out from RAW was the hot crowd and their cheering and chanting, especially during the AJ and Angle match.

I do agree that the crowd can overdo it, but I disagree that all the cheering hurts TNA. Maybe there are some casual fans who are turned off by it, but maybe there are those casual fans who flip through and stop to watch to see what all the cheering and chanting it about and get hooked on the product.

This has never seemes to be that big of a deal before. It's not like the "CC" just showed up and started to disrupt TNA tapings. This all only happened because Hogan/Bischoff didn't like the way the crowd didn't fall lock-step into like with their plans. Did they really think that they could just change the ring all of a sudden and put a irrevelent WWE mid-carder over a TNA original, who just headlined the last 2 PPVs, cleanly and the crowd would just sit there and accept it without a negative reaction?

By that logic, we should accept that Bubba the Love Sponge should take JB's spot and the Nasty Boys should go over Team 3D because Hogan/Bischoff said so and if you disagree, don't say anything becasue you are hurting TNA.

If everyone hates the crowd so much, rather then telling them to shut up, you should be encouraging them to be louder and more obnoxious. That way Hogan/ Bischoff will be forced to move out of the Impact zone.

 

[D-Man]

I do agree that the crowd can overdo it, but I disagree that all the cheering hurts TNA. Maybe there are some casual fans who are turned off by it, but maybe there are those casual fans who flip through and stop to watch to see what all the cheering and chanting it about and get hooked on the product.

You completely missed my point. I am all for the crowd cheering at a show. What I am against is chanting things like, "Overrated" at Kennedy, turning their backs on Morley, and chanting smarky, internet-fueled remarks at wrestlers during live broadcasts. They're not acting like fans, they're acting like SMARKS. And if you don't know the definition of a SMARK or a MARK, I suggest you look it up.

The TNA "CC" crowd is a bunch of guys that think they run the Impact Zone audience. They read a few things on the internet, empower themselves as a result of having a tidbit of backstage knowledge, and they verbalize it during the broadcast. This ruins the show for viewers who don't pay attention to the internet and insider information.

There is a HUUUUGE difference between a casual fan, a mark, a smark and a TNA "CC" fan. Thats the point I'm trying to make. The "CC" fans are the bottom of the barrel, scourges of wrestling society. They need to be silenced, moved, or charged for their tickets so they can stop acting like hillbillies and begin to take pride in their promotion. Chanting backstage humor clear enough for the viewing audience to take notice is negative towards the live broadcast.

Cheering and booing their favorite wrestlers is awesome... cheering things like "Sit down Brooke" is absolutely embarrassing and atrocious. How can you all not see the difference here? One is positive towards TNA, one is negative. If you don't wish to understand this then it is an obvious sign of pride and ignorance.

 

[Mitch Cumstein]

You completely missed my point. I am all for the crowd cheering at a show. What I am against is chanting things like, "Overrated" at Kennedy, turning their backs on Morley, and chanting smarky, internet-fueled remarks at wrestlers during live broadcasts. They're not acting like fans, they're acting like SMARKS. And if you don't know the definition of a SMARK or a MARK, I suggest you look it up.

The TNA "CC" crowd is a bunch of guys that think they run the Impact Zone audience. They read a few things on the internet, empower themselves as a result of having a tidbit of backstage knowledge, and they verbalize it during the broadcast. This ruins the show for viewers who don't pay attention to the internet and insider information.

There is a HUUUUGE difference between a casual fan, a mark, a smark and a TNA "CC" fan. Thats the point I'm trying to make. The "CC" fans are the bottom of the barrel, scourges of wrestling society. They need to be silenced, moved, or charged for their tickets so they can stop acting like hillbillies and begin to take pride in their promotion. Chanting backstage humor clear enough for the viewing audience to take notice is negative towards the live broadcast.

Cheering and booing their favorite wrestlers is awesome... cheering things like "Sit down Brooke" is absolutely embarrassing and atrocious. How can you all not see the difference here? One is positive towards TNA, one is negative. If you don't wish to understand this then it is an obvious sign of pride and ignorance.

I agree with you 100%...its chants like "You are married" to AJ styles when he is in the middle of a promo talking about women that ruin it for the audience. They mise well chant "Wrestling is fake".

Dont try to ruin the storylines...

The "overrated" chant was directed at Anderson not living up to the big surprised hype. Which is a smark based argument. If you dont like him, then they should have chant something like "Anderson sucks". But dont chant the inside jargon bullshit just to try to influence management into running the company the way you would like.

They are abusing the audiences right to determine heels and faces.

 

[lghikas]

The TNA crowd is a Double-Edged Sword imo, yes they can create a GREAT atmosphere for wrestling and even watching wrestling, but some of the chants they are either embarrassing to rude, while some are just stupid. I remember they chanted "You Still Got It" to Anvil and have chanted this is awesome/wrestling WAY to early in a match. It just seems they are trying to get themselves over as a crowd and almost become like the ROH fans, which is another Double-Edged Sword.

 

[NSL]

What's the real problem with chanting "You are married!" during an AJ heel promo? It's supposed to give him heat. It's supposed to make him hated. For the most loved guy in all of wrestling to get heat, he needs to go against the grain, and the fans are going to have to help.

This was the one way they could get him heat, and the fans bought right into it.

 

[JackBurton]

The TNA "CC" crowd is a bunch of guys that think they run the Impact Zone audience.

This above is precisely the point of most of the responses to the OP.

Its fairly clear the neither TNA producers or anyone on this forum are telling these guys how to be fans or who to cheer for - no no no - that, in fact, is exactly what this crucial crew is doing. The OP clearly stated there is a clear line being drawn between themselves and the other Impact Zone fans, and why? Because this group of smart marks thinks the people who cheer the faces and boo the heels are the idiots; and they think they have the right to tell these other fans who to cheer for or boo. They're entitled to there opinion, with regards to who they like or dont, but they are no more entitled to tell me or anyone else who to get behind than the TNA producers.

The video clearly shows that this matter has been blown out of all proportion. I stated in an earlier post that if you have to exaggerate or outright lie then you lose all credibility

 

[Pedro08]

I agree with you 100%...its chants like "You are married" to AJ styles when he is in the middle of a promo talking about women that ruin it for the audience. They mise well chant "Wrestling is fake".

Dont try to ruin the storylines...

The "overrated" chant was directed at Anderson not living up to the big surprised hype. Which is a smark based argument. If you dont like him, then they should have chant something like "Anderson sucks". But dont chant the inside jargon bullshit just to try to influence management into running the company the way you would like.

They are abusing the audiences right to determine heels and faces.

Sorry, but chanting "You are Married" to AJ IS NOT ruining storylines. AJ being married was introduced to the audience last year in the build-up to Bound to Glory when AJ was considering retirement to go home to his "wife and kids". So the fans that everyone is bashing are not wrong on this one, it's not their fault if the people who planned this don't remember previous storylines.

It appears to me that the ones who are most upset about this group of fans being too Smarky with their cheering and chanting are other Smarks. Now let me be clear, I consider those who go to sites, like WZ and post on message boards to be Smarks, so if you're reading this, you're a Smark, a Smart Mark If they were that much of a problem, they would have been kicked out and banned from the Impact zone, a long time ago, but they haven't. Even after what happened at Genesis, the producer came out and basically told them that they are "castmembers" and to basically play along, but didn't ban them, which they have the right to do if they were that much trouble.

I'm sorry if all their chanting has ruined you're ability to enjoy Impact, but you too have a choice...change the channel and don't watch if it bothers you that much. From reading many of the post on this particular thread, alot of you claim to watch TNA on a regular basis anyway.

 

[JackBurton]

Sorry, but chanting "You are Married" to AJ IS NOT ruining storylines. AJ being married was introduced to the audience last year in the build-up to Bound to Glory when AJ was considering retirement to go home to his "wife and kids". So the fans that everyone is bashing are not wrong on this one, it's not their fault if the people who planned this don't remember previous storylines.

It appears to me that the ones who are most upset about this group of fans being too Smarky with their cheering and chanting are other Smarks. Now let me be clear, I consider those who go to sites, like WZ and post on message boards to be Smarks, so if you're reading this, you're a Smark, a Smart Mark If they were that much of a problem, they would have been kicked out and banned from the Impact zone, a long time ago, but they haven't. Even after what happened at Genesis, the producer came out and basically told them that they are "castmembers" and to basically play along, but didn't ban them, which they have the right to do if they were that much trouble.

I'm sorry if all their chanting has ruined you're ability to enjoy Impact, but you too have a choice...change the channel and don't watch if it bothers you that much. From reading many of the post on this particular thread, alot of you claim to watch TNA on a regular basis anyway.

C'mon man. You know as well as I do that this chant was these guys saying "we are smart" "we know this is fake" "we know how it works" "please let us be over with the boys"

I've watched TNA for 2 years (only been able to get it on virgin media since 2008) and over that time I've come to the understanding that these guys motives for being at Tapings or PPV's wasnt to see there favorite wrestler(s). They want to be able to go on there favorite forum and go "haw haw did you see/hear us on impact on thursday - yeah we're over man" Maybe it didnt start out that way for these guys but thats how it is now and everyone whos seen them regularly knows it.

They clearly refuse to suspend dis-belief which indicates a desire to appear and remain to appear "smart"

Feel sorry for guys like AJ who break there bodys in two, 3 or 4 times a week, for these guys to go out there and show a complete lack of respect for what is essentially an art-form. How can anyone the justify turning there back on Sean Morley? Whether you like him or not, hes out there risking serious injury in an honest attempt to entertain you - just because your not a fan of him doesnt mean its ok to completely disrespect him. Do you think Chris Daniels was pleased about that? He was out there taking bumps trying to make Morley look good (theres a difference between putting someone over and doing a "job") and they dont even have enough respect for the workers, the company or themselves to give it a chance.

Childish is the only word to describe it. Period.

 

[Schizophrenic]

Alright, let's see what I can come up with on here. Some good points, some have no basis what so ever.

Im a UK TNA fan and have been watching since around 06. I was pissed at seeing the 6 sided ring replaced with the normal squared circle too lol it looked so out of place and the colours were all wrong. It wasnt visually pleasing, the matt should of been had TNA colours or an emblem onit, just something to identify it with TNA as the 6-sided ring was. Morely v Daniels was a total waste of fcuking time and Morely was never gonna get over and he isnt doin Daniels any favors, like it or not. Kendrick is another guy that sucked in his match and RED saved it with some good spots. Kendrick shouldve stayed in the WWE, his gimmick with big Z was gettin over until he was mis-managed and they put all emphasis on the big guy Z. Anyway Kendrick isnt suited to the X-division with his style of wrestling. The other guys like the band were worth using because their names in the business will get TNA talent over. Kendrick, Morely and the ring are the biggest dissapointments so far.

How in the hell does a wrestling ring look out of place at a wrestling show. You came in around 2006 so I will allow you the gratitude not to jump down your gullet that TNA started with a four sided ring. Go back and watch the original Nashville PPV stuff and tell me the ring looks out of place. If anything it throws me back to when TNA was starting and was a can't miss show. And to say the colors are wrong? The ropes were red, thering apron balck with a TNA logo and a grey canvas. Like most rings. Kendirck in no way sucked. News flash, he hates the WWE, hates Vince McMahon he isn't going back anytime soon and I dont blame him. When was the last time you saw Kendrick smile in the ring because he was happy to be wrestling? And how isn't Kendrick sutied for the XDivsion. It was tailor made for him and guys his size. Guys that can fly and dive and be technical at the same time. Its like saying that Red isn't X Division materiel or the Machine Guns. Do yu even watch TNA?

BOO FACES, CHEER HEELS?: Now this is where I am on the side of the tna regulars. The fans have the right to boo or cheer who they want and if the fans are booing "the wrong people" then the problem is in TNA's writing NOT the fans. TNA (or Russo to be more precise) love blurring the lines between heels and faces so what do they expect? For instance - some of the stuff hogan and bischof say is distinctly heel-ish yet they are meant to be faces (i think!). If Hogan essentially tells the fans "this is how it's going to be and IT'S TOUGH!" of course they are going to boo him!

People think it's cool to boo heels and cheer faces. And those are the people who dont remember what it's like to be a young fan or even what would really happen. Take the Orton/Hunter saga from last year. If you were a guy whow as handcuffed and watched a guy hover over your wife and kiss her would you not hate him and want him dead. Yet the fans cheered him. Kind of takes away from what they are trying to do. If that happened to you you wouldn't cheer the guy. I read an interview with Raven a few years back saying that if you want to help the company and support the wrestlers, boo me if Im being an asshole and cheer the good guy beating my ass. Cheering a heel is not telling htem they are doing a good job. Booing him is telling him he is doing a fantastic job int he ring. You by all means can cheer for a 5 star match but when they are int he ring doing a promo and to cheer him is just odd.

If everyone hates the crowd so much, rather then telling them to shut up, you should be encouraging them to be louder and more obnoxious. That way Hogan/ Bischoff will be forced to move out of the Impact zone.

TNA will leave the Impact Zone soon enough and then the "CC" will cry that their precious TNA is no longer there. Watch when they do and start touring, the crew will say TNA sold out. Put money on it! I am not going to cheer them on to be more loud and obnoxious because I enjoy watching the show without wanting to want to shoot a fan.

It appears to me that the ones who are most upset about this group of fans being too Smarky with their cheering and chanting are other Smarks. Now let me be clear, I consider those who go to sites, like WZ and post on message boards to be Smarks, so if you're reading this, you're a Smark, a Smart Mark If they were that much of a problem, they would have been kicked out and banned from the Impact zone, a long time ago, but they haven't. Even after what happened at Genesis, the producer came out and basically told them that they are "castmembers" and to basically play along, but didn't ban them, which they have the right to do if they were that much trouble.

So because I want to come one here and talk to others about my passion and my love for the buisness I'm a smark? You dont even know the meaning of the word do you? You heard it used elsewhere in the topic and you decided to use it to make yourself sound like an "inside". And by your judgement you are a smark as well. Ever think of that one? I knowbaout certain aspect of the buisness but I don't let it effect my viewing of the show. I don't play armchair booker. I enjoyt he wrestling when it's given to me, but I do go on sites so I MUST be a smark. The next step will be to throw them out and it wouldn't surprise me if they did very soon. By the way, proper punctuation is your friend.

Feel sorry for guys like AJ who break there bodys in two, 3 or 4 times a week, for these guys to go out there and show a complete lack of respect for what is essentially an art-form. How can anyone the justify turning there back on Sean Morley? Whether you like him or not, hes out there risking serious injury in an honest attempt to entertain you - just because your not a fan of him doesnt mean its ok to completely disrespect him. Do you think Chris Daniels was pleased about that? He was out there taking bumps trying to make Morley look good (theres a difference between putting someone over and doing a "job") and they dont even have enough respect for the workers, the company or themselves to give it a chance.

You sir I agree with. Daniels was tryng to hard to make the people boo him for ANYTHING and you cheered him. Do you really think he went backstage and thought to himself, "They are cheering me! I did a great job!" No he was probably pissed off at the crowd for cheering him when he pretty much said "I'm a heel. So please boo me, it would make my job easier." But people dont care about helping hte wrestlers anymore. It's all about ME ME ME now. Whether you dont like a wrestler is irrelevent. These guys are breaking their bodies for the fans but they dont care. I dont like my share f wrestlers but I respect them for what they do. And it comes down to that. The "fans" that call themselves that ******ed name don't have repsect for the wrestlers for the fans and for the company that they claim to love. Until they show respect, I will show none to them.

Pfew that was fun.