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[Pedro08]

Alright, let's see what I can come up with on here. Some good points, some have no basis what so ever.


How in the hell does a wrestling ring look out of place at a wrestling show. You came in around 2006 so I will allow you the gratitude not to jump down your gullet that TNA started with a four sided ring. Go back and watch the original Nashville PPV stuff and tell me the ring looks out of place. If anything it throws me back to when TNA was starting and was a can't miss show. And to say the colors are wrong? The ropes were red, thering apron balck with a TNA logo and a grey canvas. Like most rings. Kendirck in no way sucked. News flash, he hates the WWE, hates Vince McMahon he isn't going back anytime soon and I dont blame him. When was the last time you saw Kendrick smile in the ring because he was happy to be wrestling? And how isn't Kendrick sutied for the XDivsion. It was tailor made for him and guys his size. Guys that can fly and dive and be technical at the same time. Its like saying that Red isn't X Division materiel or the Machine Guns. Do yu even watch TNA?



People think it's cool to boo heels and cheer faces. And those are the people who dont remember what it's like to be a young fan or even what would really happen. Take the Orton/Hunter saga from last year. If you were a guy whow as handcuffed and watched a guy hover over your wife and kiss her would you not hate him and want him dead. Yet the fans cheered him. Kind of takes away from what they are trying to do. If that happened to you you wouldn't cheer the guy. I read an interview with Raven a few years back saying that if you want to help the company and support the wrestlers, boo me if Im being an asshole and cheer the good guy beating my ass. Cheering a heel is not telling htem they are doing a good job. Booing him is telling him he is doing a fantastic job int he ring. You by all means can cheer for a 5 star match but when they are int he ring doing a promo and to cheer him is just odd.



TNA will leave the Impact Zone soon enough and then the "CC" will cry that their precious TNA is no longer there. Watch when they do and start touring, the crew will say TNA sold out. Put money on it! I am not going to cheer them on to be more loud and obnoxious because I enjoy watching the show without wanting to want to shoot a fan.



So because I want to come one here and talk to others about my passion and my love for the buisness I'm a smark? You dont even know the meaning of the word do you? You heard it used elsewhere in the topic and you decided to use it to make yourself sound like an "inside". And by your judgement you are a smark as well. Ever think of that one? I knowbaout certain aspect of the buisness but I don't let it effect my viewing of the show. I don't play armchair booker. I enjoyt he wrestling when it's given to me, but I do go on sites so I MUST be a smark. The next step will be to throw them out and it wouldn't surprise me if they did very soon. By the way, proper punctuation is your friend.



You sir I agree with. Daniels was tryng to hard to make the people boo him for ANYTHING and you cheered him. Do you really think he went backstage and thought to himself, "They are cheering me! I did a great job!" No he was probably pissed off at the crowd for cheering him when he pretty much said "I'm a heel. So please boo me, it would make my job easier." But people dont care about helping hte wrestlers anymore. It's all about ME ME ME now. Whether you dont like a wrestler is irrelevent. These guys are breaking their bodies for the fans but they dont care. I dont like my share f wrestlers but I respect them for what they do. And it comes down to that. The "fans" that call themselves that ******ed name don't have repsect for the wrestlers for the fans and for the company that they claim to love. Until they show respect, I will show none to them.

Pfew that was fun.

So let me get this straight. Sean Morley come out, cuts a promo about how he's in TNA to make 'movies'. Daniels cuts him off, saying in-effect, 'this is TNA and TNA is about wrestling' and the fans are suppose to boo that? Really? That makes no sense, especially after Hogan went on about how TNA is about wrestling and not 'Sports Entertainment'. You can tell that it threw Daniels off, because he had to resort to telling the fans to shut up.

You can't blame Daniels for that, he was just doing what he was told. However, you can blame Bischoff/Hogan for not understanding their audience. To expect the fans to cheer Morley as a face, especially against someone who they have been watching for the past 7 years and headlined the last 2 PPVs is a gross miscalculation.

If you feel that the fans turning their backs on Morley is disrespectful, fine. But the fans cheering one of their own against someone who, like the Nasty Boys, hasn't been relevant in 10 years and is perceived to only been in TNA because he's Hogan's buddy, I got no problem with.

By the way, proper punctuation and spelling is your friend. Before you attempt to rip on someone, you should make sure work is air tight. Otherwise, you look foolish.

 

[boywithatoy]

People think it's cool to boo heels and cheer faces. And those are the people who dont remember what it's like to be a young fan or even what would really happen. Take the Orton/Hunter saga from last year. If you were a guy whow as handcuffed and watched a guy hover over your wife and kiss her would you not hate him and want him dead. Yet the fans cheered him. Kind of takes away from what they are trying to do. If that happened to you you wouldn't cheer the guy. I read an interview with Raven a few years back saying that if you want to help the company and support the wrestlers, boo me if Im being an asshole and cheer the good guy beating my ass. Cheering a heel is not telling htem they are doing a good job. Booing him is telling him he is doing a fantastic job int he ring. You by all means can cheer for a 5 star match but when they are int he ring doing a promo and to cheer him is just odd.

Dude, you've completely missed my point. My point is that TNA don't make it clear who is the face and who is the heel. In the Orton/HHH fued it was obvious Orton was the heel cos of his actions and what he said, however, in the Daniels/Morely fued, Morely has said he has come to TNA to make PORN FILMS and Daniels responds to that by saying there is no place for that in TNA cos it's about the wrestling. On paper, that makes Daniels the face doesn't it?! It's the same with Hogan. When addressing the crowd who were obviously annoyed the 6 sides had gone, instead of givng a face promo he comes out and says "we're changing it whether you like it or not" - if someone talked to you like that would you not hate him and want to boo him?

 

[Schizophrenic]

First off I never said that they shouldn't boo Morely. Yeah I would go against Morely myself and Im sure they will wind up doing something where he turns heel or else it will just not work. What Im saying is that Morely was booed out of the building before he even got to the ring. Why? Because he isn't one of the TNA originals? Not because he was there to "make porns films" but because he was in WWE. If Morely came in and completley denounced the Val Venis character and said he was there to wrestle the fans still would have shit on him. That's my point, maybe I didn't clearly state it but that is what I was attempting to get across. I was simply using that as an example. Perhaps I should have used a better one. Also why are people shitting all over that match? It was no worse than anything else on the card. Because it was Morely and Daniels lost people act like they went in there and pissed on the fans in attendace. Whoever actually watched the match can see that it was your standard match with some good moments. (Daniels saying "ouch" as Morely pulled him up was hillarious.

Boywithatoy you are correct in saying that TNA doesn't make it clear whose the face and who is the heel. Hopefully they work on that and they seem to be getting more clear by the week who is to play the protagonist and who is the antagonist. I have said all along that I think that Daniels is the face and Morely the heel, that should be the way it is if TNA is going to focus on the wrestling. My point again was that if you are not a TNA original and even perceived as one of "Hogan's Boys" you will get shit on in the Impact Zone. I'd love to see the reaction that Shannon Moore will get seeing how he was in TNA before but since he was one the tour in Australia he will most likely get shit on as well.

And no I wouldn't boo someone who told me that it's changing like it or not. We have ordinary jobs and that happens all the time. Am I suppose to stand up in the meeting and boo the boss or turn around and turn my back? I would be told that oppinion in the long run is irrelevant cause I'm not running the company just like the fans got told. You dont like it, there is the door, you are replaceable. And by the looks of it, TNA is gaining more fans and if they lose 12-20 guys who cant pull their head out of their asses and accept change, then so what.

 

[Bampop]

Once again, I'm speaking solely for myself and no members of the Crucial Crew. I AM NOT a member of the Crucial Crew, but I would be considered a part of the 12-20 people the OP referenced.

I am speaking about my main group of friends here, but speaking ONLY for myself. I've really only known the CC guys for about the last 2 PPVs or so.

First let me say that after reading a bunch of stuff here, I feel bad for turning my back on Morely. It was a spur of the moment thing and based on the whole porn film vs. wrestling part of the angle, but I hadn't thought it through. When we turned our backs on Foley months ago, it was really pretty story driven. He had won the title and started acting heelish. Granted the character was supposed to be heel-like because he was so driven by his belief that he was fixing things, but I truly feel we were turning our backs on the character. I felt the same way about Morely, but the area there was much grayer. We were all pretty convinced that The Band was gonna go over Beer Money, so this felt like the beginning of Hogan proving our fears right. Upon further thought, with the Band losing and the Nasty Boys not even appearing, I can admit I was wrong. (And shit, after reading Tuesday's spoilers, I'm further convinced that Hogan isn't ruining anything the way I feared he would. I wish I didn't live so far away because I wish I had gone that night at least ([haven't read Monday or Wednesday spoilers yet]) But more to the Morely point, even with someone like Lacey Von Erich, I would never ever ever participate in a "You can't wrestle" chant. I think that's fucked up.


Second, when I chanted over-rated at Anderson, it truly was because I didn't feel he lived up to the "game changer who can take the title at anytime" hype. I can't speak for anyone else, but discussion before the show had us hoping for a Goldberg type (even if it was a one-shot). The net had been a buzz about Anderson for weeks, and it wasn't much of a surprise. I wasn't thinking from a casual fan standpoint. Also in that case, he was the heel.

Third, as for booing faces and cheering heels. I'm again only speaking for myself, but when I cheer a heel, I also cheer the face (ok, maybe only 90% of the time, but bare with me here.) Usually if I'm booing a face I'm also booing the heel.

We boo the hell out of The British Invasion because we LOVE them. They are great great great heels.

I cheered Beer Money as heels because they were going against the likes of Team 3-D who I don't like as faces. Also I love BM as workers. When Team 3-D was feuding with Rhino, I boo'd them all. I prefer BM as heels, but I still cheer them as faces.

I said earlier that I think we're a little responsible for turning Pope face, and I believe that. We cheered him in his first appearance (if you watch that PPV, it wasn't yet clear that he was a heel. Five minutes into that match the very first "Pope is Pimpin" chant was started by me and my friends. (This is one area where I do have a little bit of an ego and a small desire to put myself over because I was very proud that it's caught on. We haven't started one of those chants about the last 10 times there has been one, and he even says it in promos once in a while now.) We continued to cheer him after he was heelish because he's frigging awesome.

When you have a match like Joe/AJ/Daniels 2, even if 2 guys are heels, it's still a match built on great wrestling and it makes it hard to boo any of them. Same goes for Angle/Wolfe or Pope/Wolfe. I'm going to cheer the heels there because they are impressive. I don't care if he's heel or face, I'm going to cheer the hell out of a Daniels BME or a Wolfe Lariat.

When MMG were trying to unmask Suicide, I cheered them. That one was a little insider, because I'm insulted that a video game character came to life and TNA expects me to buy that. (Personally, I thought they should have unmasked him to reveal Daniels who would then cut a promo saying he played the game and was inspired by it's story mode to use it as a way to get back in the company.)

Lastly, the 6-sided ring. I liked it. It was one of the things that made me tune into TNA when I hadn't watched any wrestling in about 2 years. TNA has spent 5 years telling us that the 6-sided ring is innovative and unique, so when Hogan comes in and shits on it while claiming he wants to be an alternative to WWE, it feels like a step backwards. It feels like he's saying "to compete with WWE we need to look like the WWE of 1978 in the Maple Leaf Gardens."

I'm tired, so i don't have any closing thoughts, just this. While I suppose you could consider me a smark, I don't go out of my way to smark up the event. I will try in the future to make sure I'm not a distracting presence on the show.


As for the guy who recommended we go to the other side of the arena: that area is reserved for wheelchairs and Brooke Hogan.

 

[Nichotine]

Quality post Bam Pop. And to be honest I'm not personally angry if you want to boo or cheer for who you want, that's human nature. No one should expect you to cheer a character that you don't genuinely appreciate and it would be TNA's job to position the guys people wanna cheer as the faces of the company.

I could do without the "let's go everyone" chants and the like but it's not wrong of you to do it, the only thing that really rattled me was the "you are married" chant, which is really just venting frustration towards Hulk and Bischoff and taking it out on AJ, which is unreasonable at all(and I know you weren't a part of that group), and then Underworld selfishly celebrating it like he's doing us all a favor.

It's tough to argue because there's not really a rulebook on how to behave in a wrestling audience, it's a far different world than it used to be. It's just a lot funner for us in the TV audience to watch a wrestling show where fans are having fun with the performers as opposed to what happened at Genesis. And the Crucial Crew in my opinion have been rather detrimental to TNA programming for a long time.

 

[underworlderZer0]

Here's my good friend DK in a good interview about the Crucial Crew:
It's a little past one hour in.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theshoot/2010/01/22/the-shoot-episode

 

[Dexter]

Here's my good friend DK in a good interview about the Crucial Crew:
It's a little past one hour in.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theshoot/2010/01/22/the-shoot-episode

Great show in the Impact Zone tonight with you guys in the bleachers, btw. I don't know who those people were up front and on camera tonight anymore than I know who you guys are, I just know they made the fun show to watch. I hope you guys continue to stay where you were when tonight's show was taped. It was a marked improvement, and thank you from one fan to another for doing your part to improve the quality of the show.

 

[boywithatoy]

And no I wouldn't boo someone who told me that it's changing like it or not. We have ordinary jobs and that happens all the time. Am I suppose to stand up in the meeting and boo the boss or turn around and turn my back? I would be told that oppinion in the long run is irrelevant cause I'm not running the company just like the fans got told. You dont like it, there is the door, you are replaceable.

No offence mate but that is a stupid comparison to make. You can't compare a work place with being in the audience at a wrestling event. For a start, you'd never boo someone at work. You're being paid by your company so you expect to take some shit every now and then from your boss. The TNA audience aren't being paid to be there (well, not yet anyway!). If your boss tells you it's changing and to like it or not of course you are not going to boo him but you're gonna be annoyed at him aren't you? In the workplace, if an authoritive figure has a bad attitude towards you are quietly pissed off at him and maybe you'll have a moan with your workmates. If you are in the audience at a wrestling event and an authoritive figure has a bad attitude towards you, you boo them. That's the way it works.

Also, I honestly don't believe they were booing morely cos he's ex-wwe - it's because of his gimmick (it's a gimmick that just screams "heel!"). By your logic, the tna fans boo ex-wwe wrestlers? In that case, up to until his recent heel turn, why were there chants of "bobby! bobby!" when Bobby Lashley wrestled? He's ex-wwe but cos he was an obvious face, they cheered him. Same with Jeff Hardy and Ric Flair - when both of them came in, they got cheered, yet they are ex-wwe. Hell, even Hall and Waltman got cheers when they first appeared despite being heels - and that's BECAUSE they are ex-wwe. Morely got booed cos of his HEEL gimmick, not cos he's ex-wwe. It's not the audience's fault that TNA don't know what makes a heel and makes a face.

the only thing that really rattled me was the "you are married" chant, which is really just venting frustration towards Hulk and Bischoff and taking it out on AJ, which is unreasonable at all(and I know you weren't a part of that group), and then Underworld selfishly celebrating it like he's doing us all a favor.

But they did a storyline about a year ago where AJ talked about his wife and kids. So the fans remember he is married but Russo can't?

As for the guy who recommended we go to the other side of the arena: that area is reserved for wheelchairs and Brooke Hogan.

That was me. I didn't realise that, sorry. Personally, I like you guys in the crowd and I think this whole TNA Management vs TNA regulars is a pretty good angle, after all, it's got a lot of people talking. Don't be surprised if Russo writes you into a storyline soon!

 

[D-Man]

That was me. I didn't realise that, sorry. Personally, I like you guys in the crowd and I think this whole TNA Management vs TNA regulars is a pretty good angle, after all, it's got a lot of people talking. Don't be surprised if Russo writes you into a storyline soon!

Please don't encourage these guys. It's obvious that the main purpose of their immature and wreckless banter is to get noticed by TNA and squeeze themselves in the back door of the production. No matter what bullshit excuses they give about 'caring about the product' and 'wishing to make it better', it's blatently obvious that these morons care more about themselves than TNA as a flourishing company. They're taking the stance of "the squeaky wheel gets the oil" and they're squeaking the shit out of everyone.

Once again, I was watching Impact last night and heard overwhelming chants and noise during promos to the point where the wrestlers couldn't even get their thoughts out clearly for the viewers at home to see. I am extremely annoyed by this and honestly, if it keeps up, I don't care how good the storylines have become since Hogan came on board... I'll change the channel from now on.

 

[trendkiller]

I'll change the channel from now on.

Well, observationally, if you do that, the Crap Clique and their ilk wins.

TNA will fade back into obscurity, working gyms and bingo halls, the Monday Night Wars will be nothing but a small spark of hope vanquished in the flood of failure and the moronic drones will have their product all to themselves - at least until they find something shiny that will distract them for the next two years.

The response to destructive behavior needs to be constructive.

Write to those who have the power to do something about it - Dixie Carter, TNA administration, Spike TV... Let them know you love the way iMPACT and TNA is going, but that you absolutely despise the way some individuals in the crowd are ruining everything for not just you, but your friends and family as well.

Give your views as a consumer and fan, then have some faith in TNA.

 

[Pedro08]

Once again, I was watching Impact last night and heard overwhelming chants and noise during promos to the point where the wrestlers couldn't even get their thoughts out clearly for the viewers at home to see. I am extremely annoyed by this and honestly, if it keeps up, I don't care how good the storylines have become since Hogan came on board... I'll change the channel from now on.

If a wrestler gets thrown off during a promo in front of a live audience, that's on the wrestler, not the crowd. You can't control how a crowd will react and there is no way a wrestling crowd is just going to sit there and be quiet. These guys are athletes/performers and have to step to the plate and perform. I'm sure great promo guys like Flair, The Rock, Austin have been thrown off by the crowd, but they have learned to adapt, work the crowd and still get their point across.

Hogan has even said that TNA guys have to learn how to talk and to cut promos on their own and not rely on writers and if they can't, then "pack their bags and head up north".

If guys can't perform and are easily thrown off by the 1,000 or so fans (or whatever the number of fans the Impact Zone holds), then how can you expect them to perform if / when TNA grows and they have to cut a promo in front of 10-20,000 cheering and chanting fans.

 

[roadkill_]

Once again, I was watching Impact last night and heard overwhelming chants and noise during promos to the point where the wrestlers couldn't even get their thoughts out clearly for the viewers at home to see. I am extremely annoyed by this and honestly, if it keeps up, I don't care how good the storylines have become since Hogan came on board... I'll change the channel from now on.

The ironfist needs to come down. Theres no reason that I can discern why TNA can't simply ban these idiots from ringside. Fill their seats with casuals.

 

[D-Man]

If a wrestler gets thrown off during a promo in front of a live audience, that's on the wrestler, not the crowd. You can't control how a crowd will react and there is no way a wrestling crowd is just going to sit there and be quiet. These guys are athletes/performers and have to step to the plate and perform. I'm sure great promo guys like Flair, The Rock, Austin have been thrown off by the crowd, but they have learned to adapt, work the crowd and still get their point across.

Hogan has even said that TNA guys have to learn how to talk and to cut promos on their own and not rely on writers and if they can't, then "pack their bags and head up north".

If guys can't perform and are easily thrown off by the 1,000 or so fans (or whatever the number of fans the Impact Zone holds), then how can you expect them to perform if / when TNA grows and they have to cut a promo in front of 10-20,000 cheering and chanting fans.

No offense, but you're being so ignorant to the point I've been trying to make the whole time I've been posting in this thread.

OF COURSE wrestlers are able to tune out the chants from the audience. But when you're in an arena of 1000 people, 600 of which are smarky ass holes, to the viewers on TV, we can't even hear what the wrestler is saying in the promo over the stupid chants. The audience is trying to be louder than the wrestler so THEY get noticed on television more than the guy cutting the promo. And these are the guys that want to HELP the company? All of you "CC" guys and your bullshit, half-assed excuses as to how the things that you say are only to 'help' TNA have more holes in it than the ground in Afghanistan.

Stop making excuses for your antics, when all of them are obviously lies. The "CC" does this shit to get THEMSELVES on television and to go into business for THEMSELVES. Nothing that anyone in this thread can change, deny, or prove this.

 

[Nichotine]

But they did a storyline about a year ago where AJ talked about his wife and kids. So the fans remember he is married but Russo can't?

Where were these "you are married" chants then when AJ was hitting on Angle's wife? And besides, he's a heel and he's aligned with Ric Flair, who's to say the character is with these women in spite of his marriage? You know Ric Flair is engaged?

I don't believe the crucial crew were chanting that for the benefit of storyline continuity anyways.

 

[Grudgge]

The "crap-fest-crew" know as CC. Wait a min, huh, just wait, I can't get over that. "The CC", oh yea the CC lol. That's lol worthy. But, yea I degrees. IM 27 and been watching wrestling since the eighties and you fools top any fans I have seen as being the most annoying. Your not the ECW fans of old. Your chants and distractions are over the top and annoying. Yall, suck as a crowd. The Impact Zone fans or CC (haha, can't get over that) CC...lol can't believe you and your crew have an ego so big that yall have given yourselves that name. Back on track though. These fools are the worst fans. The worst fans ever. These fools have ruined many IMPACTS for me and a few PPV's for me. I always enjoyed on the road PPV's. Even if the crowed was dead. I enjoyed it. At least those fans don't mark out for dumbest stuff and say this is awesome 24/7 when its not needed or start dumb and disrespectful chants. IM all for fans being fans and rooting for what you like and don't like, but yall take it to another level. We at home don't enjoy your crap. You and your crew are ruining the product. Stop trying to get yourselves over. That's all yall are doing at this point. If you can't then please refrain yourself from going to the Impact Zone so I can enjoy the product. Thanks.

Off topic.

The CC, is probably "marking" over this thread right now. Look at us, they are talking about us. "We are awesome" clap clap clap clap clap "We are awesome". I can picture every one of them reading this and doing this in front of there computer screens in some sort of faction lol. But, then again I degrees.

 

[Schizophrenic]

"Everyone jobs to the crucial crew......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow thanks guys. I needed a good laugh today and you bunch of halfwits just did it. For once you seemed to do something right. By the way, nice job of stealing bWo stuff. "We're taking over" Sounds familiar but it was much cooler when Stevie did it. You know why, cause he IS a wrestler and you just want to be. But that fact is you are more ot shape than the Nasty's, look worse than Gene Snitsky and have worse "promos" than Bobby Lashley.

 

[The Industry]

I was just linked here from somewhere else in a link titled "The Home Board Of TNA's Crucial Crew"....

Wrestlezone is the home of The Crucial Crew?



I would have never guessed. But yeah, you're attending free shows and PPV's...Why the big fuss?

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I was just linked here from somewhere else in a link titled "The Home Board Of TNA's Crucial Crew"....

Wrestlezone is the home of The Crucial Crew?



I would have never guessed. But yeah, you're attending free shows and PPV's...Why the big fuss?

I don't think so. We don't want them, either, as you can tell from the riot act that they have been read in this very thread.

They don't want to play their role as Castmembers apparently (very poor wording from the Producer), and nor do they seem to understand the difference between a studio audience environment and an arena audience.

If they don't like what they see, it makes no sense why they continue to go to the shows, free show or not.

 

[Proof]

This is embarrassing. I'm ashamed of being a wrestling fan because of stuff like this. Why do people take wrestling so seriously? It's a goofy show. It's the same as the people who think size matters in a FAKE sport. "Omgz.. rey doesn't deserve to be the world heavyweight champion, even though this is a fake sport and real sports fans would laugh at me if I said that size did matter in a fake sport"..I doubt you pay to go to one of these TNA shows, so you should do nothing. If you don't like the show, then don't watch it. Why do you waste time to go to a show you don't even like? Wrestling would be a lot more enjoyable if people didn't say stupid stuff like "you fucked up".. or "Fire Russo"..

 

[burningfnhammer]

I don't think so. We don't want them, either, as you can tell from the riot act that they have been read in this very thread.

They don't want to play their role as Castmembers apparently (very poor wording from the Producer), and nor do they seem to understand the difference between a studio audience environment and an arena audience.

If they don't like what they see, it makes no sense why they continue to go to the shows, free show or not.

The producer is right. They are castmembers. No different than an audience at the Tonight Show. You are allowed some basic freedoms, but you must be in line. WCW did similar things at their Sat Night tapings. I know, I attended some old WCW Sat Night tapings.

They don't need to be told when to cheer and boo, but basic things like chanting bullshit and/or other things are out of line. TNA iMpact is a TV show first and foremost.

 

[SexandWrestling]

The producer is right. They are castmembers. No different than an audience at the Tonight Show. You are allowed some basic freedoms, but you must be in line. WCW did similar things at their Sat Night tapings. I know, I attended some old WCW Sat Night tapings.

They don't need to be told when to cheer and boo, but basic things like chanting bullshit and/or other things are out of line. TNA iMpact is a TV show first and foremost.

I saw the video of the "lecturing" as well and is it really that difficult for members of the "crucial crew" to not scream out obscenities while the cameras are rolling? If they can't handle it, I think we could do without this "crucial" role of Impact.

Cheer or boo whoever you want to just be respectful about it and not cuss. It doesn't sound like they're asking for much. If they have to bleep out the audio one more time because these nimrods can't keep their filthy mouths shut, they should be banned from the Impact Zone.

 

[boywithatoy]

Once again, I was watching Impact last night and heard overwhelming chants and noise during promos to the point where the wrestlers couldn't even get their thoughts out clearly for the viewers at home to see. I am extremely annoyed by this and honestly, if it keeps up, I don't care how good the storylines have become since Hogan came on board... I'll change the channel from now on.

Yes but that was the episode where the producer told them to behave and if you look in the crowd, the CC weren't there in their usual place, so it wasn't them.

Also, I think it's hypocritical of TNA to lecture the audience on swearing and then have Angle swearing constantly in the ring at the end! So it's not ok for the fans to chant "bullshit" when they see something they don't like but it's ok to SCRIPT Angle swearing constantly at the end? Double standards.

 

[emtflash]

I attend TNA regularly and I was at this past Mondays Impact taping. I was very glad to see that TNA decided to fill the pit and the front row with hand picked fans. This also made the CC go up into the stands and not be front and center on TV like they are every week. This is a group that says they are there to help TNA. I'm not sure how showing the same 10 people in the front row every week helps. Kind of makes tings look Bush league in my opinion. So anyway my son and I were one of the group picked to be up front on the rail for the show. As we were brought into the Impact Zone, a bunch of the CC started chanting "you all suck". And most of the group they were yelling at were children. REAL CLASSY guys! Rest assured, had any of you fools tried yelling that at my son when there was no security around you would have lost some teeth. So the show starts and heres these CC douche bags chanting inappropriate crap as usual. Stuff like "AJ's married" which isn't helping anything like you claim to try and be doing. Then they continually heckle anyone who isn't a TNA original. I finally had enough of these jabroni's so I came home and I wrote an email to the head of TNA audience relations Denine Neal. I am glad to pass along the info I received today in a return email from Denine. She thanked me for my letter and my loyalty to TNA and further went on to say that this group (the crucial crew) were being taken care of. So from what I take out of this letter it seems that you guys will either learn to behave yourselves or you just won't be at the tapings. Either way works for me. Good riddance to all your smarky, immature behavior.

Yes but that was the episode where the producer told them to behave and if you look in the crowd, the CC weren't there in their usual place, so it wasn't them.

Also, I think it's hypocritical of TNA to lecture the audience on swearing and then have Angle swearing constantly in the ring at the end! So it's not ok for the fans to chant "bullshit" when they see something they don't like but it's ok to SCRIPT Angle swearing constantly at the end? Double standards.

i was at this taping. It was the CC doing the chanting even if they weren't in their normal spots up front. It was also them that took the bootleg video. They are no good for the tapings no matter how much they cry about their loyalty. If they were truely loyal they wouldn't attempt to ruin every taping and turn off every casual fan that makes it into the impact zone.

 

[RasslingFanatic]

First of all your clowns that make up the Crucial Crew are annoying. You proclaim to be TNA fans, well guess what, I am a professional wrestling fan. Now there is no such thing as smark, those who call themselves smarks just average marks like everyone else WHO THINK they are better than the rest of us. The final difference between you and I, is I am a mark for the wrestlers, not for myself.

Lets not act is if TNA was flourishing as a company and producing great television. It wasn't, it sucked. It had Russo written all over it. TNA was on life support and the move Dixie Carter made was like taking a human off of life support. That person will either die quickly, or its heart will take over and it is live a long life.

Your chants are annoying. They don't add to the show, they make it harder to watch. Every time there is a arm drag we get a 'This is Wrestling' chant. Well we know it is wrestling, you don't need to tell us. For every basic chain wrestling combination we get the even worse, "This is Awesome' chant. At the start of every match it is, "Let's go wrestler A" and "Let's go Wrestler B." Well that worked when that chant started with John Cena and Kurt Angle. You know why? There was real passion there. Half the fans loved John Cena and half loved Kurt Angle.

Now you call it the "TNA we know and love", well I turned that shit off 6 months ago and only tuned back in, with the hope Hogan and Bischoff would fix. So far it has been a slow start.



Now the issue with the ring change. Wrestling for over 100 years has been in a ring with 4 corners and 4 sets of ropes. Now I have Jim Cornette, Jim Ross, Hulk Hogan and now Lance Storm agreeing with me when I say it made TNA look like a cheap side show. There is less room to work in, and the dynamics make it is more difficult to work in. A 6 sided ring only makes it easier to do athletics. Now, when TNA first went to 6 sides I hated it, but you didn't see me cry about it. Do you know Why? This is a main point so I will highlight it.

The shape of the ring DOES NOT MATTER, it is the STORY TOLD IN IT, that matters.

So get the fuck over it, or move to Mexico where you have have as many sides as you want.

Now let's talk about the issue of older guys going over young guys, specifically Daniels. There is a basic a philosophy in wrestling, which I will make bold as well.

There is a DIFFERENCE between GOING OVER and GETTING OVER

Daniels is a great worker, but he is not a Main Event player. He does have a place in TNA. His job is to get the stars over. If he does that job well, TNA makes more money, and he will make more money. Now Jake Roberts lost matches in the WWE whether a heel or a babyface for 5 years, but he was always over. Why? He could work. He got himself over regardless of if he went over.

Now lets talk about the crowd being 'dead' for the Pope/Wolfe match. I loved that you fuckers shut up. It made it so much easier to enjoy the match.

Now there is nothing wrong with Sean Morley. He had his run 10 years ago, but he has credibility because of it. Now he in the right role can help gets guys over. For that to happen though, he needs to get wins early in his run. His role should be the role Tito Santana had in the early 90's for Vince.

Learn this lesson as well, Crucial Crew. Judge a wrestlers on their talent, not on who they used to work for. Your World Champion is not a TNA original, he got his start in WCW. The biggest star in your company got his start in the WWE as well and most of your TNA Originals are actually ROH Originals.

Oh you are not doing Daniels any good by cheering him when he was busting his ass to try and get over as a heel and get some heat.

The last point. You do not have any young stars in your company. Those guys drew shit. You need a star to make a star. Hopefully these older names can help get these POTENTIAL STARS exposure so they can reach that potential. The only other star you can get is RVD.

Your potential stars are James Storm, Robert Roode, A.J Styles, D'Angelo Deniro, Matt Morgan and Desmond Wolfe.

Now I didn't put a heap of effort into the structure of this, because I'm just getting a heap of shit off of my chest. But in summary the Crucial Crew are marks like the rest of us, trying to get themselves over. TNA will be much better if they leave Orlando, fill some arena's with fans THAT WILL PAY TO GET IN!

 

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Styles added: "It's hard to gauge who you are as a character in the Impact Zone because you have the same fans coming in who don't necessarily want to enjoy the show, but be part of the show, and it's hard to gauge how you're doing as an entertainer."

Styles also reassured fans upset about TNA parting ways with its trademark six-sided ring.

"Ring change is kind of upsetting at first, but then once you get in that ring, it brings the memories back - 'Oh, there's so much more you can do.' But, for us, it absolutely does not make a difference to me. That's why it was so bizarre to me at first why they would change it," Styles said. "I heard that maybe the reason was to be taken more seriously as a company. I can understand that. I don't care what it is that gets us to the next level as long as we get there."

AJ Styles, a "TNA Original" if you will, does not consider the opinions of the Crucial-Whatever valid. In fact, he wants to get away from all of them. Oops, AJ just turned heel on these people! Maybe they should cheer him anyway and chant some more! That will help.

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