This Needs to Be Addressed

GI Cake

Thank God For Sodamy.
I figured instead of replying back to Dynamite in the discussion thread where I would make more of the casual members of the fed uncomfortable I elected to make a thread in the backstage addressing my complaints, concerns, and my critiques on creative behavior and ethics. This thread isn't meant to insult, deride, or even humiliate anyone. Not even Dynamite (who I give the bulk of the credit for the formation of this thread to begin with.)

Disclosure: I've had a good long life in the fed and as you can tell being involved in the fed for 3+ years. I was once part of Runn Reynolds Runn, and for years were the longest reigning tag champs, gold rush tournament winner, and one of the few Triple Crown champions in fed's history. I also had a short stint on creative where I sucked ass. The matches I wrote were poor, and very rushed. Not to mention I got my fair share of criticisms and public hose-downs for it. And for those who are not aware of the inner workings of creative, I basically got lucky with each of my title wins. Two of which were handed to me when a member was either leaving the fed or wanting to give the title up to go higher up in the card. I have seen the best, and the worst of what this fed has to offer and if you have any questions about either the validity of my concerns or my credibility I will not be afraid to answer them.

However, as it has become painfully aware to me that there is a member on creative that believes he is above criticism, or at least thinks that he reserves the right to be rude and spiteful to anyone who dares to question his authority. That member of creative is Dynamite. A poster who once was a laughing stock who turned his writing around and created a character and formed a tag team that broke a record that stood for years.

While this thread might just seem as one giant dump on Dynamite as a poster, I do feel that it will be entirely constructive and possibly even healthy for the thread. There will be plenty of room to blame on not only Dynamite, but on creative as a whole, and the members of the fed that contribute to the problems that the fed has.

To start, I wanna begin with the members of the fed as a whole. The new guys, the veterans, and myself. As a whole, we have made this a hobby. Something we do on the side for shits and gigs and to have fun. If it weren't fun or didn't get any enjoyment out of writing 2,000-3,000 word RP's about characters we have arduously designed and created. We have killer box robots, muscle freaks, video game nerds, corrupted politicians, mentally unstable heel monsters, Cult leaders, and even at one point we had two rappers.

But yet in the past year, we as a whole have become so self-absorbed that we couldn't care less about what the product looks like put together. Back when I started, every other week the feedback page was lighting up with reviews and critiques of other characters. Showtime (who was a creative member at one point) took the time out of his day to give feedback to debuting rookies like myself to help us improve. I wouldn't be anywhere today if it wasn't for the input of other people.

Today however, or even for the past year feedback has been few and far between. When it comes to putting time aside to help one another we have given one another the middle finger or even worse; we blow smoke up each other's asses because we love hearing about how awesome our RP was without learning from it. We're steadily reaching a point of stagnation where the RP's are going to look the same week in and week out and nobody will mind. That needs to change, and that needs to start with us. I myself am guilty of this and we need to start giving each other the harsh reality of what we think about someone's format, gimmick, tone, and all the other critiques that we all absolutely need.

But more importantly, we as the majority need to start giving proper, detailed reviews for creative. Feedback for the show is important because it can outline something that creative could have missed, or even improve upon in the future. I haven't reviewed a show in forever, and I contemplated on never doing so again if I were to be greeted with the same kind of petulance I earn from Dynamite anytime you dare hold him accountable for anything.

Secondly, of course this complaint goes to Dynamite and Dynamite alone. Dynamite has successfully set a standard on what to expect as behavior from the creative team. And that standard is what I partially blame for the sudden lack of enthusiasm for handing out feedback to one another. Dare question Dynamite, or give him any sort of constructive criticism and he'll lash out at you. After several times of delaying the shows with lateness I offered a suggestion. It was personal advice because at one point I too was constantly holding up shows. He responded to that criticism poorly, and by poorly he got his ego hurt and proceeded to attack and attempt to humiliate me in the discussion thread. This was the behavior of a child and if this was how someone acts to feedback, it is no surprise no one gives reviews or feedback anymore.

But is Dynamite to blame for his sensitive hubris. Yes and no, not entirely anyway. For as long as the fed has existed, creative holds members accountable for posting their RP's in a timely order. You get one week or 8 days if you are granted an extension. As we all know, if you no-show or quit before you posted your RP or leave in some emotional tirade your character gets jobbed out to oblivion. Hell, the fed even has a three strike system for members and after the third strike you're kicked out for good.

Yet, creative has nothing like that for themselves. They could delay the show for several days and nothing will come of it other than the same, vicious cycle. Think back to the Harthan days on creative, because those were probably the darkest days where shows were delayed entire weekends and anytime a show was actually scrapped together on time it was a genuine surprise. There was a lot to blame for those days, we had members of creative up and leave, vanish completely, or just be generally absent. Harthan was the prime example of "What not to do" on creative. I love Harthan, I think he's a great guy and honestly loved his RPs and even his matches when he had enough time set aside to do them justice. But the reason why the wagons never circled around him was testament to how utterly timid everyone feels with creative. You can't dare say anything bad about a creative member, or it will be silenced and that might affect how you're voted on in matches. (For the record, I do not accuse anybody on creative on using grudges and vendettas as reasons to not vote for someone.) But time and time again the shows can be late and nothing will come of it. Because no one takes offense to it. At the end of the day, the fed doesn't work without it's members and vice versa. If you're perfectly content with this lack of accountability and want to continue on with rushed shows, or delayed shows then by all means sit idly.

My concern is that Dynamite has embraced this lack of accountability and believes himself to be bulletproof. And any attempts to bring him down to Earth, or hold him to the same standard creative holds for the regular members he will become insulting and vile. Aside from the one comment claiming that he has a vagina (Which I wish to apologize for because it was dumb and petty.) I haven't given him the same level of disrespect he has given me. The funny thing is, I'm not looking for an apology for his disrespect, or even demanding he resigns. All I want, and what will always want is for Dynamite to prove he has enough commitment to send in his shows on time instead of giving us excuses as to why he was late with his Meltdown match again.

I understand that my opinions may not be popular, or this entire thread could be a giant death wish to be booted out of the fed Remix style, but it is something I want to get off my chest. The sycophantic relationship between creative and the rest of the feed is becoming symbiotic and that needs to change. I want to start seeing the tally for match results to get a general idea of what creative thinks of our work instead of putting up this secluded shroud of mystery and kayfabe. But more importantly, I want us as a community to stop enabling one another and be at least a bit more honest and constructive instead of expecting the same old "You're awesome" "Oh shucks, you're awesome!" I see after each deadline.
 
Take this to the Bar Room. Thanks.

This kind of dismissal is entirely the issue. You and I both know how this will go down if this thread is moved to the Bar Room.

>Thread is posted in the bar room
>One group minimalizes and trolls the thread because they can
>And then the thread is lost into oblivion and back to the status quo.

Sorry Dave, but I refuse to let legitimate concerns regarding the fed I have and others may have get laughed off.
 
Well, I wouldn't have written this big of a post, not even in the non-spam section. Although, I do agree with you on the delayed shows' issue. Though, how could Dynamite alone be responsible for that? We can only tolerate.
 
This kind of dismissal is entirely the issue. You and I both know how this will go down if this thread is moved to the Bar Room.

>Thread is posted in the bar room
>One group minimalizes and trolls the thread because they can
>And then the thread is lost into oblivion and back to the status quo.

Sorry Dave, but I refuse to let legitimate concerns regarding the fed I have and others may have get laughed off.

Then PM someone and it would be dealt with. You have been around long enough to know that the Fed doesn;t welcome drama like that in an open forum. If you want to get things resolved, then I implore you to do that. But since you've left, I don't think it makes much of a difference.
 
Then PM someone and it would be dealt with. You have been around long enough to know that the Fed doesn;t welcome drama like that in an open forum. If you want to get things resolved, then I implore you to do that. But since you've left, I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I sent a pm about this weeks ago and was met only with a dismissive "we'll work on it." This isn't drama, and I'm offended that I spent the time to write something without any malicious intent or drama (twice) only to get a metaphorical backhand.
 
I sent a pm about this weeks ago and was met only with a dismissive "we'll work on it." This isn't drama, and I'm offended that I spent the time to write something without any malicious intent or drama (twice) only to get a metaphorical backhand.

And we have worked on it. Trust me. We're still working on it. Nothing is perfect. We appreciate the input but calling out Dynamite like this has no place in the Fed. Sorry.
 
And we have worked on it. Trust me. We're still working on it. Nothing is perfect. We appreciate the input but calling out Dynamite like this has no place in the Fed. Sorry.

Where in this thread was this a direct call out on Dynamite? Genuinely I haven't meant him any offense and I've made that clear in the beginning of this whole thing. Meanwhile he has more than free reign to insult me. If there was an actual concern then I'm not the only person that should be tarred and feathered.
 
Turn this into a corrupt and control-freak authority vs face character on a mission storyline. The added dose of reality will help make the booking easier and timely, as well as draw a bigger audience.

I have only one question for the OP... What did you think was gonna happen?
 
While I can't really take any sides on the matter because I haven't been active in WZCW for a good while, it's sad to see such hostility in such a small community. I'm pretty sure both Pancake and Dynamite both have mutual intentions to aid the fed(hell, neither of them would have accepted Creative placements if not).
 
Its worth pointing out that in the feds best days they were getting called out every week. Now they aren't, and its in danger of becoming what it was before people called it out every week. Not bad, but, well...
 
Its worth pointing out that in the feds best days they were getting called out every week. Now they aren't, and its in danger of becoming what it was before people called it out every week. Not bad, but, well...

In what way? I'm genuinely interested in your concerns, if you can call them that.
 
Got some thoughts that I'll weigh in with in a bit.

Short story; no one that has commented in this thread has been wrong. At least, not in how they feel. There's too much to type, and not enough space to do so, yet.
 
Aside from the scheduling of shows, Pancake does bring up a good point about the lack of constructive criticism in the fed. It's been months since anyone has given feedback on shows or RP's. And there's no obligation to, since no one ever asks for it.
 
In what way? I'm genuinely interested in your concerns, if you can call them that.

An environment where the nobody tells the showrunners they are wrong, which means the showrunners carrying on thinking all is well, which leads to an environment where, like before, the only characters that got show time were creatives, and angles get pushed that no one really cares about, etc, etc... This is in no way the fault of creative, because if no one complains, how do you know? But numbers are dropping, as is interest, because instead of shouting people are just leaving or plodding on. Back in the day Chris K.O's White Knight gimmick got slaughtered, could you see that happenning now? The shows are fine and I have a passing interest, and if the members are happy then great, but I reckon if I was still full time I'd be bringing up yhe same points I was 2 - 3 years ago. This alone makes me reluctant to commit
 
I don't feel as though I stifle criticism of any kind personally. I don't think anyone has come to me and been critical in the last few months and I would argue that I am very approachable. I agree that there needs to be more communication if people are unhappy. But if that is the case, the tools are there for those people to raise the criticism. At the end of the day, you're right. How do we know we're doing something wrong if no one tells us. But then, like I said, we haven't stifled those people if they do it in the proper ways.
 
I don't feel as though I stifle criticism of any kind personally. I don't think anyone has come to me and been critical in the last few months and I would argue that I am very approachable. I agree that there needs to be more communication if people are unhappy. But if that is the case, the tools are there for those people to raise the criticism. At the end of the day, you're right. How do we know we're doing something wrong if no one tells us. But then, like I said, we haven't stifled those people if they do it in the proper ways.

Agreed. I never thought twice about airing my grievances, especially with yourself. Ya'll are good at taking it on board. So if Pancake is telling the truth and Dynamite isnt, then he is letting the side down
 

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