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BaconBits
WZ Czar of Steaks
Or they fight each other. Which usually results in prison rape, because only one of them has an IQ above Corky level.
-This guy bitches about Cena being on top-
Despite only holding the title for less than 300 days out of the last 5 years, 11 others have been champ during that time. He may be considered the face of the company, but they sure have given others their time to shine. They way you bitch it's like Cena has been champ every day & nobody gets a chance to win anything.
-He is mad about Cena being featured too much-
John Cena at most takes up maybe 30 minutes out of a weekly 3 hour show and another 30 minutes once a month for PPV. I guess he completely ignores the wave of new talent introduced and featured over the past couple of years who take up the majority of WWE's programming.
-Says we should not worry about the business side of wrestling-
Yet interrupts people during their meals & is concerned that he doesn't know how Cena acts in real life. Sounds like you have no manners and are concerned with the wrong shit here kid.
-Bitches about drawing power =/= entertaining-
If he was not entertaining a large part of the audience, then he would not be selling merch and drawing ticket sales. People don't part with their money for things that they think are shitty. Unless you are a parent & choose to buy your kids what they want because they happen to like something. That's being a good parent. Fuck, you know how much money I have spent buying my kids things that I cant stand just because I want them to enjoy the things they like? Sure tons of people hate Cena, but enough like him that WWE has invested in his character & feature him as a major star.
All in all Crocker-you make little sense, if any at all & when presented with rebuttals that differ from your opinions or disprove your statements, you throw out the phrase 'WWE Apologist' as if that discredits & dismisses anything said against you. Now you sing the praises of another person stuck in prison with you who is almost just as dumb when it comes to things related to wrestling, so much so that he created a 4th rate copycat thread -despite having a limited scope of knowledge compared to KB on this subject . At least PWF does not have an odd fixation with one wrestler. I truly think you have posters of Cena all around your room that bear the marks of past irrational outbursts. Like a twisted, obsessive shrine that you take out your frustrations upon in between ranting on the internet & hoping you find other ignorant people who agree with your skewed logic.
Good luck down here. May as well just click the logout button and go outside, because you clearly cannot function on this forum.
Despite only holding the title for less than 300 days out of the last 5 years, 11 others have been champ during that time. He may be considered the face of the company, but they sure have given others their time to shine. They way you bitch it's like Cena has been champ every day & nobody gets a chance to win anything.
-He is mad about Cena being featured too much-
John Cena at most takes up maybe 30 minutes out of a weekly 3 hour show and another 30 minutes once a month for PPV. I guess he completely ignores the wave of new talent introduced and featured over the past couple of years who take up the majority of WWE's programming.
-Says we should not worry about the business side of wrestling-
Yet interrupts people during their meals & is concerned that he doesn't know how Cena acts in real life. Sounds like you have no manners and are concerned with the wrong shit here kid.
-Bitches about drawing power =/= entertaining-
If he was not entertaining a large part of the audience, then he would not be selling merch and drawing ticket sales. People don't part with their money for things that they think are shitty. Unless you are a parent & choose to buy your kids what they want because they happen to like something. That's being a good parent. Fuck, you know how much money I have spent buying my kids things that I cant stand just because I want them to enjoy the things they like? Sure tons of people hate Cena, but enough like him that WWE has invested in his character & feature him as a major star.
All in all Crocker-you make little sense, if any at all & when presented with rebuttals that differ from your opinions or disprove your statements, you throw out the phrase 'WWE Apologist' as if that discredits & dismisses anything said against you. Now you sing the praises of another person stuck in prison with you who is almost just as dumb when it comes to things related to wrestling, so much so that he created a 4th rate copycat thread -despite having a limited scope of knowledge compared to KB on this subject . At least PWF does not have an odd fixation with one wrestler. I truly think you have posters of Cena all around your room that bear the marks of past irrational outbursts. Like a twisted, obsessive shrine that you take out your frustrations upon in between ranting on the internet & hoping you find other ignorant people who agree with your skewed logic.
Good luck down here. May as well just click the logout button and go outside, because you clearly cannot function on this forum.
Stone Cold Tea
Getting Noticed By Management
Keep up, HH. It's because we are all WWE apologists, that's why. Plus Crocker probably worked as a telemarketer & such rules of dinner etiquette do not apply when he demands to know if you are happy with your long distance provider.
Cena just irritates the hell out of me and a ton of others. Don't blame us for complaining about Cena; 1 month in the main event can feel like 6 when it comes to Cena. He did let Lesnar and Daniel Bryan shine, but I will always hate him for main eventing over Punk for 70% of his title reign, forcing him to play second fiddle. Also the time he spent away from the mid card are VERY obvious attempts to get the smarks back on his side; and they failed every single time because its so fucking obvious that it insults our intelligence.
Cena is in the main event; the main event takes up the most time and where the creative team puts in all their effort. That's like a fucking television show, where the main character receives the most screen time and priority, while everyone else is just playing second fiddle.
Cena's act pisses me off greatly. Stop the corporate act and show your true colors already.. guys like Reigns, Ambrose, Lesnar, Rollins, Wyatt, etc are way more interesting because they are charismatic guys in character and in real life. Also out of the ring they break character and are actually decent people. With Cena you can never tell because he's constantly pretending; it irritates the hell out of me; just be yourself.
Dude come on now.. how many times do I have to explain this? He appeals to the demographic that is more willing to spend their money (children and women). The children beg their parents to buy shit; they're more likely to spend money since they're young and don't know the value of a dollar. We have a right to complain about Cena you know? Not all Cena haters are idiots like you think.
When presented with logic, you guys ignore it.. I don't see how PWF is dumb.. he's just speaking the truth about this forum. Also its a miracle that he has that much green rep considering the only other people with super high green rep are all Cena apologists.
You're kidding me right? Do you really think I would be complaining about Cena if nobody here constantly praised him for how big of a draw he is? Would I complain if people looked at things more objectively when it comes to Cena? I don't mind when people like Cena, what I DO mind is when they try to shove their ideas down our throats. "Cena is constantly being pushed because he's the top draw. It's good for business so deal with it."
If more people had a more objective mindset, like "I really like Cena; he's one hell of a performer, but some of his booking decisions I do not agree with. Also he needs to improve on ___ and ___ because nobody is perfect". If people had that mindset, I would not bitch about Cena at all, because I would have no reason to. Why would I bitch about Cena if people are being objective with him? 75% of people here are Cena apologists so I barely see any Cena critics; thats why I feel like I always have to share my views of him.
Fire Marshall Bill
Let me show ya somethin!!!
Oh I get it now. You're one of John Cena's old friends who's seen his old shady side and know he's faking it. Clearly that has to be it because no one would just assume that they know for a fact that someone is pretending to be someone else without knowing them. I'm sure he spends all of the maybe few hours each day a camera is not on him just smacking children in the back the of their head for kicks.
Donald Trump is really an alien. I know he's pretending to be human. His hair comes to life at night and slaughters people.
So the problem isn't you, it's everyone else. Got it.
ProWrestlingFan
Championship Contender
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Cena talking about strippers, having sex with a fat girl and 6 women at once, not liking "back door" etc.
The guy cheated on his wife with a porn-star and got divorced.
His whole WWE tv persona is a sham.
The WWE Champion had nude photos leaked also cheated and dates a nazi. Who gives a shit?
ProWrestlingFan
Championship Contender
The WWE champion is not portrayed as a goody-two shoes PR friendly corporate puppet on television unlike Cena.
His appearances on the Daily Show and Today Show say otherwise.
And before you retort will "I meant on WWE", no one cares how he's portrayed. They care about how good he portrays it. Which he does tremendously.
Spidey Revivey
Porn is okay here long as it ain't dudes.
It's almost like they're actors with their own lives.
ProWrestlingFan
Championship Contender
Obviously a lot of people do care.
A lot of people who know better don't buy into his 'good guy' act and that's why the guy has been booed out of arenas like a geek for over a decade regardless of being pushed and promoted as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Why do you think his fanbase only consists of kids, women and some cognitively impaired adults? Because they're dumb and easily get fooled by WWE marketing machine.
Fooled into what? Oh, this profesional wrestler doesnt actually profesionally wrestle? He actually sport entertains? Yeah, Cena being a bit of a cunt to his ex-wife is the fucking least of what you should be worrying about as far as WWE bullshit.
Johnny Depp is a drug abuser but goes out of his way dressed as Jack Sparrow to make cancer kids smile. Bitch about him and how horrible it is that this junkie makes people happy in their time of need with a character he portrays.
enviousdominous
Behold my diction
...eeds at bringing out the best in us.
Uh oh!
While we may harp endlessly on the drawing power of the different performers as a way of separating the best from the worst, we try to make our arguments as logical as possible. Occasionally you'll be at an impasse, like the gigantic one you created with this thread, and will have to agree to disagree.
I am a John Cena hater. *applause* Thank you. I've found that good conversation can be had by the many John Cena fans of this forum, you just have to humble yourself a little and admit occasionally that maybe you're getting a little hasty with the judgment. Either way, there's no sense getting this worked up over paranoia toward the praise of John Cena by his fans. I'm pretty sure that the forum only sucks for you, because you allow yourself to interpret as much from what is in reality a very neutral forum.
I'm a big Pez Whatley mark, and I only talk about how he's the greatest pro-wrestler who ever lived. I think my thoughts make up less than 1% of what's discussed on this forum, so I haven't made the forum suck for Pez Whatley haters just yet. As a Cena hater, I find it VERY easy to avoid pro-Cena threads. I honestly don't remember seeing one in the last six months.
I dare you to ask SlyFox his opinion of me, and I'm pretty sure Klunderbunker has a restraining order against me. I'm not sucking up to anyone when I say that you're taking your Cena hate too far.
Entertainment is a very subjective concept, I doubt that anyone beyond Pez Whatley could ever be universally entertaining. For that matter I don't recall seeing anything in this supposedly sucky forum about this subject. You have to be entertaining unto a sizeable niche of fans before you're worthy of being rated for your level of drawing power, so the correct answer to your question is "probably".
For the record, I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I think if the only thing I worried about was whether or not a pro-wrestler draws, my co-workers would stop worrying about me.
If I was worried about sounding smart, I would be doing anything except humoring you.
You're doing it wrong.
ProWrestlingFan
Championship Contender
Johnny Depp dressing as Jack Sparrow to make kids smile is totally different from what WWE does with Cena.
WWE uses Cena's "make-a-wish"/cancer kids etc on the show to promote Cena's fictional character and to get good PR. That's exploitation.
I think it's funny that:
A) You have two accounts in the Prison currently
B) You're quoting yourself as "truth"
A11oftheLights
Getting Noticed By Management
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A11oftheLights
Getting Noticed By Management
I'd love for this to be true
It is. I've known for a long time Crocker was an alt. I even said so in the Spam Zone thread, but later deleted it just so he wouldn't know I knew.
What? That is not my account
Right.
It can be our little secret...well, ours and everyone else's now.
