The *Official* John Cena Thread

[SSJPhenom]

Mad props go out to The Champ for his promo last night and whoever was smart enough to stop feeding him dumb one-liners. That promo was perfect and it puts Cena right where he needs to be in this New Generation movement/People are tired of Cena storyline that may very well be brewing right now. Cena stepped up, reminded us of how much he's accomplished in the WWE, how many naysayers he's silenced, how many odds he's overcome. In a promo that he should have been cutting long ago, I think WWE is starting to acknowledge what Cena has become and the fact that he is now (and has long been) the odds, rather than someone who has to overcome then. Cena stole the show, IMO.

Tip-top and really hope this is all headed somewhere.

The Cena promo was outstanding. Cena really is starting to change my mind about him. He is having some great matches here lately and his mic work has been outstanding. I hope that his match at TLC keeps this trend of great matches going.

Back to his promo though. This goes back to something that I said a long time ago. His serious promos are far and away better then when he is trying to be funny. If Cena keeps up this great work, both in the ring and on the mic, he might have a new fan in me.

It's taken you a long time Cena, but I be damned if you aren't starting to win me over.

 

[Paradox]

The Cena promo was outstanding. Cena really is starting to change my mind about him. He is having some great matches here lately and his mic work has been outstanding. I hope that his match at TLC keeps this trend of great matches going.

Back to his promo though. This goes back to something that I said a long time ago. His serious promos are far and away better then when he is trying to be funny. If Cena keeps up this great work, both in the ring and on the mic, he might have a new fan in me.

It's taken you a long time Cena, but I be damned if you aren't starting to win me over.

Oh dear Lord! What the hell is happening... I haven't been in here in awhile and you're giving Cena props... (ENTER Ron Simmons)


DAMN!


Really though i have to agree, Cena has been doing extremely well as of late. Since his feud with Orton ended he's been on a role. His match with DX was good. His promos have been fantastic. He's been great in this new role with the young guns coming after him. Its been awesome to watch his character develop back into a more serious role. I'm hoping it continues and leads to the plan that Coco had.

 

[F-5MONSTER]

Okay i know we have all these threads talking about how we should turn john cena heel and we get all these responses about how cena's merchandise is selling and giving wwe lot's of money there's no need to turn him heel but i think there is.Does anybody else think if cena was a cool heel we wouldn't bitch about him all the time we'll either way you guys decide.

 

[WHAT]

everytime i read one of these threads i love hearing how all cena can do is the same moves over and over again. but then every1 is loving on hhh and orton but they DO THE SAME DAM MOVES every week too! when's the last time hhh has done some new move? honestly i just get all the hate for cena. he tells a great story in the ring and gets the crowd hot (either cheering or booing). isnt that his job? to put on a great show for the fans? obviously he's not as technical as bret hart or shawn michaels, but neither was hulk hogan. but hogan knew how to sell a match like no1 else in history and that is why he's huge. so i just dont get why there's all this hate for cena wen if you watch raw week in and week out....all the other big names do the same shit every week too!

 

[Slowdude]

My hate towards Cena is his matches are predictable.

If he is going to win he will have his ass handed to him for the majority of the match, have 1 fake comeback, and finally the real 5 moves of doom victory. If he is going to lose (Like against Sheamus) he will more then likely dominate the match then lose in some cheap scene. Thats only against lower card Faces and Heels most of the time. The likes of HHH, HBK, Taker, Batista etc will generally have a longer match that doesn't revolve around dominant or be dominated, but more of a normal structure.

If his matches weren't always one sided either way (With winning or losing) to Under card Faces (not like he faces them much though) and all heels then I probably would enjoy his ring work more.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

My hate towards Cena is his matches are predictable.

If he is going to win he will have his ass handed to him for the majority of the match, have 1 fake comeback, and finally the real 5 moves of doom victory. If he is going to lose (Like against Sheamus) he will more then likely dominate the match then lose in some cheap scene. Thats only against lower card Faces and Heels most of the time. The likes of HHH, HBK, Taker, Batista etc will generally have a longer match that doesn't revolve around dominant or be dominated, but more of a normal structure.

If his matches weren't always one sided either way (With winning or losing) to Under card Faces (not like he faces them much though) and all heels then I probably would enjoy his ring work more.

You're kidding me right. HBK has the weakest offense of any main eventer in recent memory and he gets dominated most of the match in almost every match he is in. Cena gets a decent amount of offense in every match. Batista is bigger than Cena so he's not going to get dominated as much and they play two entirely different characters. Every wrestler has predictable moves and it is not Cena. People just can't get over the five moves of doom shit because they can't find a real reason to hate on Cena. He does more than five moves and number of moves performed doesn't correlate to a wrestler's ability. HHH's matches are predictable, HBK's matches are predictable, and Taker's matches are predictable.

 

[gully side adidja]

little jerry lawler, i think that you need to understand that cena is not be everyone's cup of tea, no matter what you try and do to change peoples mind, i mean the guy has good matches, but he is very stale and stiff, he is somebody who is not the main reason i watch raw or wwe in general, to me he is just......there,i like you though, you talk a lot of sense,and you make good points, holla!.

 

[goodlay]

If you don't think Cena can wrestle, then you need to watch his early matches in WWE. My problem isn't really with Cena, but it's with how WWE has built this guy up as superman basically. Especially now, with Cena saying he's never going to give up and he vowed to win every match until he wins the WWE title back. Am I the only one that finds that ridiculous? This guy has had numerous title reigns, and in 06-07 he was champion the entire time except for RVD's reign then he was sidelined with his torn pectoral muscle. WWE gives this guy ridiculous treatment, he hardly ever loses clean. This guy doesn't need to be in the main event non stop, let this guy put some talent over. Though, I guess they are iffy about that after the failure that was the Cena/Miz feud.

Also I hate his overselling, he looks like he is about to fall over and die in his matches, then he magically pops up with shoulder blocks, 5 knuckle shuffle, inverted suplex or whatever, and the FU. I really think with him being the top guy and all, that he really just doesn't feel he has to go out there and do a bunch of different moves, because he knows his fans will love it. And he knows that a ton of people hate his guts, and he doesn't care.

He doesn't draw like Hogan did, but WWE damn sure did build him up ala Hogan.

 

[WHAT]

I cannot agree with Little Jerry Lawler enough.

Can someone please name me some 3 HHH matches that have been better than cena's top 3 matches.

His TLC match with edge was IMO one of the best matches of the decade in terms of overall entertainment.

His Last man standing match with umaga at Royal Rumble 2007 was also very good.

Not to mention, his surprise entrance in the 2008 Royal Rumble was one of the best moments in the last decade. The crowd reaction and realization was awesome. I can't recall anytime HHH has gotten that kind of reaction.

So how can you not say Cena is a great wrestler because clearly he entertains us, and ill say he does a better job than any1 else in the business, especially HHH

 

[Felderino]

Can someone please name me some 3 HHH matches that have been better than cena's top 3 matches.

Not to mention, his surprise entrance in the 2008 Royal Rumble was one of the best moments in the last decade. The crowd reaction and realization was awesome. I can't recall anytime HHH has gotten that kind of reaction.

Ok good name you have there because when I read you're post I thought WHAT?

Right just off the top of my head 3 HHH matches better than Cena's top 3.

1. HHH vs Undertaker Wrestlemania 17

2. HHH vs HBK streetfight Summerslam 2002

3. HHH vs Y2J Last Man Standing Fully Loaded 2000

As for Cena's reaction at the 2008 Rumble, yeah it was a big pop but have you not seen the Raw when HHH returned from his first quad tear? He get's a massive reaction from the fans, thats the biggest reaction I've seen HHH have ever!

Now I'm not a HHH lover or a Cena hater I just felt you picked a bad guy to compare Cena to. Maybe in a few years he'll have the calibre of matches to compete with HHH but not today.

My main problem with Cena is his finisher, the "Attitude Adjustment" just isn't believable to me, it's a firemans carry slam how's it supposed to keep anyone down for the 3 count? My grandma could kick out of it! The only way I'd ever buy it working is if he smeared his opponents back in instant set superglue and uses the AA to stick them to the canvas!

If Cena got an actual devastating looking finisher then maybe I could take him a bit more seriously.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Ok good name you have there because when I read you're post I thought WHAT?

Right just off the top of my head 3 HHH matches better than Cena's top 3.

1. HHH vs Undertaker Wrestlemania 17

2. HHH vs HBK streetfight Summerslam 2002

3. HHH vs Y2J Last Man Standing Fully Loaded 2000

As for Cena's reaction at the 2008 Rumble, yeah it was a big pop but have you not seen the Raw when HHH returned from his first quad tear? He get's a massive reaction from the fans, thats the biggest reaction I've seen HHH have ever!

Now I'm not a HHH lover or a Cena hater I just felt you picked a bad guy to compare Cena to. Maybe in a few years he'll have the calibre of matches to compete with HHH but not today.

My main problem with Cena is his finisher, the "Attitude Adjustment" just isn't believable to me, it's a firemans carry slam how's it supposed to keep anyone down for the 3 count? My grandma could kick out of it! The only way I'd ever buy it working is if he smeared his opponents back in instant set superglue and uses the AA to stick them to the canvas!

If Cena got an actual devastating looking finisher then maybe I could take him a bit more seriously.

Let's go through some of the greatest of all time and their finishing moves. Hulk Hogan, arguably the greatest wrestler ever, had a leg drop as his finisher. Anybody can kick out of a leg drop. The Rock, one of the most charismatic wrestlers ever, had a elbow drop as his finisher. I would suffice to say it didn't hurt either of their careers. Everybody's favorite Edge has a weak spear as his finisher. Doesn't seem to hurt him. So Cena's finisher is not the problem as there have been weaker looking finishers by greater wrestlers. It didn't hinder their careers and it is not going to hinder Cena's.

 

[Felderino]

Let's go through some of the greatest of all time and their finishing moves. Hulk Hogan, arguably the greatest wrestler ever, had a leg drop as his finisher. Anybody can kick out of a leg drop. The Rock, one of the most charismatic wrestlers ever, had a elbow drop as his finisher. I would suffice to say it didn't hurt either of their careers. Everybody's favorite Edge has a weak spear as his finisher. Doesn't seem to hurt him. So Cena's finisher is not the problem as there have been weaker looking finishers by greater wrestlers. It didn't hinder their careers and it is not going to hinder Cena's.

Good point and I totally agree with what you're sayin LJL. I never said the AA would hinder his career. Like you said Hogan The Rock and Edge all have weak finishers, although you could argue Hogan gave them the big boot then the legdrop as his finisher, and The Rock had rock bottom as his main finisher.

I don't think it will hinder his career because he's been using it for years and is hugely over despite it. I'm glad he uses the STF sometimes, it's alot more believable than the AA.

But the majority of fan's love Cena, and I have to say the last couple of months he's really impressed me. I really liked his match with Swagger on Raw, and I hope he continues to improve his ring work and match psychology.

 

[creepylildud]

I cannot agree with Little Jerry Lawler enough.

Can someone please name me some 3 HHH matches that have been better than cena's top 3 matches.

His TLC match with edge was IMO one of the best matches of the decade in terms of overall entertainment.

His Last man standing match with umaga at Royal Rumble 2007 was also very good.

Not to mention, his surprise entrance in the 2008 Royal Rumble was one of the best moments in the last decade. The crowd reaction and realization was awesome. I can't recall anytime HHH has gotten that kind of reaction.

So how can you not say Cena is a great wrestler because clearly he entertains us, and ill say he does a better job than any1 else in the business, especially HHH

first off triple h had many great matches that were better than any cena match. take any hell in a cell he was in, his street fight against cactus jack at royal rumble 2000. and with cena's return at the royal rumble was shadowed by RVD's surprise return at this year's royal rumble.

and cena fails to comparison of that of raven, anybody from the indys, orton and hell even sabu when he's not botching up the place, dam those japanese tables

Everybody's favorite Edge has a weak spear as his finisher.

he did start out wih the edgecution, the sit out lifting ddt, and the edgecator, the reverse sharpshooter. also for a while he had the electric chair drop as a finisher.

alright to the main point of the thread, cena. im pretty sure he's a great guy but his character and ring skill is very lack luster. ive seen his character before, may imention the ultimate warrior. he could get the crapbeat out of him and then turn on a dime and beast the last few minutes of the match and become invincible to win. his finishers are pretty lame, i mean at least tommy dreamer had them land on their neck for the spicolli driver. all cena's is a fireman's carry. and the only reason they keep him face and DX around is for the merchandise money. and we all know cena did steroids. and all the transitions in characters he had were lame. and he even disgraced the title by turning it into a spinner. where is Jeff Jarret when you need him, "rap is crap" and hit cena with a dam guitar. WWE justs wastes all their money on cena and the little kiddies nowadays dont know good wrestling matches when they see them. i mean look at WCW before it was bought out, many good feuds and wrestling styles. and now vince wont let the luchadors do high flying moves. and whats with this crap w/ no blood? its on the game why can we see it on TV? but overall, drop the cena character like a bad habit, or should we hire a hitman to take him out permanately? like bret hart? who wuld win that match Bret Hart vs john cena? my vote, Bret

 

[Rzarectah]

Allow me to just put it like this. If you don't think John Cena is a good wrestler, then you obviously don't know what it means to be a good wrestler. You are probably one of them indy/ROH fanboys, who seems to think that doing bunches of flippys and cursing is what makes a good wrestler, not someone who understands match psychology.
Basically what I am saying, is either you think John Cena is a good wrestler, or you don't know what good wrestling is. Thanks.

Obviously my friend, it is you who are mistaken on what a good wrestler is. If wrestling was pure entertainment like you seem to think, we would not have wrestlers like Chris Benoit, John Morrison, Rey Mystertio, Brock Lesnar, and others who are not good on the mike, but are well versed in wrestling moves submission holds and in ring awarness. John Cena is a good entertainer an has had some great matches (but only with great wrestler who carry the match the whole time) but all in all is not a good in ring performer, and is quite sloppy. So if YOU think John Cena is a good wrestler then you are the one who does not know a damn thing about good wrestling.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Obviously my friend, it is you who are mistaken on what a good wrestler is. If wrestling was pure entertainment like you seem to think, we would not have wrestlers like Chris Benoit, John Morrison, Rey Mystertio, Brock Lesnar, and others who are not good on the mike, but are well versed in wrestling moves submission holds and in ring awarness. John Cena is a good entertainer an has had some great matches (but only with great wrestler who carry the match the whole time) but all in all is not a good in ring performer, and is quite sloppy. So if YOU think John Cena is a good wrestler then you are the one who does not know a damn thing about good wrestling.

I believe he knows what good wrestling is as most of the posters on this forum have already displayed. Professional wrestler and entertainer go hand in hand and if you want to watch real wrestling, then you can go watch amateur wrestling. Where is some evidence that shows Cena is sloppy in the ring. If you can't prove that, then you don't have much of an argument.

first off triple h had many great matches that were better than any cena match. take any hell in a cell he was in, his street fight against cactus jack at royal rumble 2000. and with cena's return at the royal rumble was shadowed by RVD's surprise return at this year's royal rumble.

and cena fails to comparison of that of raven, anybody from the indys, orton and hell even sabu when he's not botching up the place, dam those japanese tables



he did start out wih the edgecution, the sit out lifting ddt, and the edgecator, the reverse sharpshooter. also for a while he had the electric chair drop as a finisher.

alright to the main point of the thread, cena. im pretty sure he's a great guy but his character and ring skill is very lack luster. ive seen his character before, may imention the ultimate warrior. he could get the crapbeat out of him and then turn on a dime and beast the last few minutes of the match and become invincible to win. his finishers are pretty lame, i mean at least tommy dreamer had them land on their neck for the spicolli driver. all cena's is a fireman's carry. and the only reason they keep him face and DX around is for the merchandise money. and we all know cena did steroids. and all the transitions in characters he had were lame. and he even disgraced the title by turning it into a spinner. where is Jeff Jarret when you need him, "rap is crap" and hit cena with a dam guitar. WWE justs wastes all their money on cena and the little kiddies nowadays dont know good wrestling matches when they see them. i mean look at WCW before it was bought out, many good feuds and wrestling styles. and now vince wont let the luchadors do high flying moves. and whats with this crap w/ no blood? its on the game why can we see it on TV? but overall, drop the cena character like a bad habit, or should we hire a hitman to take him out permanately? like bret hart? who wuld win that match Bret Hart vs john cena? my vote, Bret

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

Who in the WWE sells more than Cena? Nobody and that's because Cena is the best in the business. As long as the kids and some adults buy his merchandise, then Cena will be the top guy plain and simple. There have been plenty of "lamer" finishers by better wrestlers and it didn't seem to hurt them.

 

[Rzarectah]

So basically what you and slyfox are saying is that wrestling is all entertainment and in ring ability is useless. Well then why doesn't the WWE just have a bunch of actors who can't wrestle for shit.

I don't need to display evidence Cena is sloppy in the ring because unless you have never seen a Cena match yourself, you have seen plenty of evidence yourself and are just blind to what IN RING ABILITY is.

Also, I never said anything about watching real wrestling, so your basically just making shit up. I guarentee that if you ask professional wrestlers what a good wrestler is, they will say you need to be a good entertainer, or a helluva good wrestler(in ring ablility) or of course both.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

So basically what you and slyfox are saying is that wrestling is all entertainment and in ring ability is useless. Well then why doesn't the WWE just have a bunch of actors who can't wrestle for shit.

I don't need to display evidence Cena is sloppy in the ring because unless you have never seen a Cena match yourself, you have seen plenty of evidence yourself and are just blind to what IN RING ABILITY is.

Also, I never said anything about watching real wrestling, so your basically just making shit up. I guarentee that if you ask professional wrestlers what a good wrestler is, they will say you need to be a good entertainer, or a helluva good wrestler(in ring ablility) or of course both.

I never said in-ring ability is useless. You got to have in-ring ability to entertain the fans, thus making a lot of money and becoming a great professional wrestler. Also, wrestler botch plenty of moves all the time and you can pinpoint it all to one single wrestler.

 

[Rzarectah]

I never said in-ring ability is useless. You got to have in-ring ability to entertain the fans, thus making a lot of money and becoming a great professional wrestler.

Exactley, Cena is a good entertainer and gets a HUGE pop every time he enters the arena, but is weak in the ring. Now I'm not one of those idiots who says Cena only has 5 moves(the guy does more than 5 moves in each match) but Cena is not a good in ring performer and therfore, in my opinion is not a good wrestler, he is just a decent wrestler.

 

[Chopper]

seriously why is this man getting a push? He is the Hulk Hogan of the 2000's... No talent, only knows 5 moves but the kids love him. Honestly can't see why.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

seriously why is this man getting a push? He is the Hulk Hogan of the 2000's... No talent, only knows 5 moves but the kids love him. Honestly can't see why.

Oh I don't know. He has had plenty of great matches in his career. He is one of if not the top merchandise seller in the WWE which makes him the top guy in the company. Those are some reasons why.

Now you can tell me what does his only knowing 5 moves have to do with him as a wrestler.

If you ever watched a Cena match, he does more than 5 moves and he doesn't have to do a lot of moves to entertain the crowd because it's not the quantity of moves you perform, but the quality of the moves you do perform.

 

[adamny101]

In my opinion, I have always like John Cena but him being a face has run its course. If he would just turn heel around WM and face the taker or whatever then i will definitely have more interest in the guy. But regardless of anything, I still respect him for going out there and busting his butt off to entertain all of us

 

[gully side adidja]

cena willl go down as the most hated main eventer in wwe history,and that is no coincidence,he has single handedly made a mockery of 2010 wrestling with his appalling in ring grappling/technical skills,his 'so called'strongest skill,brawling is probably his worst,he punches,worser than women,he is just not good at all,from 2005 til now he has been booed,examplesi won't say the obvious ones,wrestlemania 22,one night stand)new year revolution 06,summerslam 06 wrestlemania 23,royal rumble 08,night of champions 07,judgement day 09,the bash 09,taboo tuesday 05,unforgiven 07,wrestlemania 24,summerslam 08,survivor series 09,do you think people will boo somebody for so long if there is nothing wrong? there obviously is something wrong,people can recognise true skill, true talent, true entertainment,cena possesses none of these and has had none of these for years,he executes move very sloopily,the stfu looks like he is hugging the person instead of squeezing them,the top rope leg drop he looks nervous doing,the five knuckle shuffle is the most blatantly missed move in the wwe,the throwback makes the person look bad(who can't see or sense cena running behind them),he does make a lot of money, which of course is the most important aspect,but this is MY opinion, and my opinion is not based on money,it is based on ability and skill (actual grappling/technical wrestling),something cena is lacking in, oh and btw, he is not even entertaining/funny,orton uses baby oil and you shouldn't hang a lepracaun on a hook are not funny,that is my opinion,holla!

 

[JayBriscoe2010]

I dont hate him and I dont necessarily think he sucks, it's more so of his poor execution. Like, he can make a shoulder tackle and blue thunder bomb look like garbage. He is solid on psychology and in gimmick matches in general but straight up wrestling? No. Cena is the epitome of sports entertainment and the smark fans worse nightmare pretty much. I have never disliked him because of a popular trend to due so that's just ******ed, he's just not my cup of tea just as someone I really like "El Generico" might not be whomevers cup of tea. I go in watching WWE Raw/Smackdown knowing im gonna get Sports Entertainment, and I go into a ROH or PWG Show knowing im gonna get great Wrestling and I do. Basically I know what im gonna get when I watch a promotion and even any Wrestler. If Cena improved on his execution and cut out the cheesy 12 year old humor on the mic I would like him 20 fold more, easily.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

cena willl go down as the most hated main eventer in wwe history,and that is no coincidence,he has single handedly made a mockery of 2010 wrestling with his appalling in ring grappling/technical skills,his 'so called'strongest skill,brawling is probably his worst,he punches,worser than women,he is just not good at all,from 2005 til now he has been booed,examplesi won't say the obvious ones,wrestlemania 22,one night stand)new year revolution 06,summerslam 06 wrestlemania 23,royal rumble 08,night of champions 07,judgement day 09,the bash 09,taboo tuesday 05,unforgiven 07,wrestlemania 24,summerslam 08,survivor series 09,do you think people will boo somebody for so long if there is nothing wrong? there obviously is something wrong,people can recognise true skill, true talent, true entertainment,cena possesses none of these and has had none of these for years,he executes move very sloopily,the stfu looks like he is hugging the person instead of squeezing them,the top rope leg drop he looks nervous doing,the five knuckle shuffle is the most blatantly missed move in the wwe,the throwback makes the person look bad(who can't see or sense cena running behind them),he does make a lot of money, which of course is the most important aspect,but this is MY opinion, and my opinion is not based on money,it is based on ability and skill (actual grappling/technical wrestling),something cena is lacking in, oh and btw, he is not even entertaining/funny,orton uses baby oil and you shouldn't hang a lepracaun on a hook are not funny,that is my opinion,holla!

I'm begging you to use correct punctuation, please.

If you have the ability and skill in the ring, you would entertain the crowd, which in turn makes more money for Vince and increases your status as the top guy in the company and Cena has done that. You may say Edge is the go-to guy when he really is not or you might say Orton is the top guy because he is the top heel but Cena is above Edge and Orton right now.

All those PPV's you listed boil down to either two reasons why people boo Cena:

1. He is in his opponent's hometown.

2. His opponents are faces (No Way Out 2007, WM 23, Summerslam 2008, Survivor Series 2009)

The second reason is why face/face matchups don't occur all that often especially on PPV's. The wrestling fan wants somebody to root against and more often than not they pick the least glorified face to boo i.e. Cena and Batista at WM 23. Taker and Batista were both faces but Taker had more fanfare and is more celebrated so naturally they were going to boo Batista. It was the same way for Cena in his match with HBK and yet he still won.

One Night Stand in 2006 was tailor made for fans to boo Cena. Cena was seen as the rival going to into their home territory and trying to retain his title against their best ever in RVD and Cena did a great job of working that crowd.

 

[gully side adidja]

LITTLE JERRY LAWLER, I LOVE DEBATING WITH YOU!


1.to your response about faces being in the home town,yes you are right,3 out of about 40 ppv's he has been on are home town of people,all the others are neutral,i mean the bash and judgement day 09 were both neutral,and he was booed.
royal rumble 08 and wrestlemania 08 were neutral,still booed,even summerslam 06 in CENA'S HOMETOWN, vs orton he was booed,bring something stronger than that.

2.As for the face opinion,apart from wrestlemania 23 summerslam 08 night of champions 08,and great american bash 07,all the others have been against heels,that is 4 out around 50 ppv's you are talking about,a low percentage wouldn't you agree?!? I mean you like rey mysterio,another poster boy of wwe which is cool, but what is the difference between mysterio and cena? why do people cheer rey but not cena? because some fans, the iwc,and myself can see true natural wrestling talent and not just showmanship. It is simple ljl, you like cena and anyone who does not like him regardless off if it is a good point or not,you won't agree........I LIKE THAT!