stevieg786
Dark Match Jobber
Yep, but it's not just that, Cena did that routine ALL last year, it got boring real quick. Which is why i hope Punk doesn't go down that route. As it's unoriginal and pretty lame tbh.
Summerslam 2012: CM Punk (c) VS John Cena VS Big Show [WWE Championship]
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Yep, but it's not just that, Cena did that routine ALL last year, it got boring real quick. Which is why i hope Punk doesn't go down that route. As it's unoriginal and pretty lame tbh.
What else is there to say? Seriously, the guy is never around.. The only thing you can do is go back ten years, and lets not pretend like the rock is going to job to Punk. It's never going to happen, the Rock's going to win at the rumble and be on the show twice. It's not like the motivation is there for Punk.
There's nothing else to talk about unless you're going to say what he's done on tv. Which is Quote "Come back and beat Cena at Mania" which in four months is going to be boring as fuck as well. The problem is that Rock makes programs suck because he's never there. You can blame Punk, but this isn't really his fault.
I wouldn't be suprised if Cena won, but personally I am pulling for Punk to walk out the Champ. Honestly when was the last time have we seen anyone lose a title in a triple threat or fatal four way match up? I just hope we get a good feud with Punk and Cena with the whole thing ending in one big match leading up to the next feud for whoever the champion is, probably will be Cena in the end.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
It should be a fun match. I'm sure some won't like it just because of Show's involvement, but I think they've done a good job of hyping this match thus far. Also, Show's presence serves as a buffer between Cena & Punk. Show can be beaten in this match without any worry is it pertains to the stock of either Cena or Punk.
I look for Punk to retain in this match by means of maybe "picking the scraps". It'll probably be really fun, physical match and I see Punk retaining by one of two ways: Cena puts Show in the AA only for Punk to maybe deliver a roundhouse kick almost immediately afterwards, thereby allowing Punk to get the pin on either Cena or Show. The other way involves Show landing WMD and Punk is somehow able to knock Show out of the ring before making the cover on Cena. I don't think Cena will get pinned at this early stage in the feud, but it's certainly possible. After all, most people didn't think Punk would beat Cena at MITB last year or retain the title at the following SummerSlam, but that's exactly what happened.
CM Punk has a DVD coming out I think the 2nd or 3rd week in October, so I don't believe WWE is going to take the title off Punk anytime soon. Taking it off him beforehand could cost the DVD momentum in sales when it's released.
I look for Punk to retain in this match by means of maybe "picking the scraps". It'll probably be really fun, physical match and I see Punk retaining by one of two ways: Cena puts Show in the AA only for Punk to maybe deliver a roundhouse kick almost immediately afterwards, thereby allowing Punk to get the pin on either Cena or Show. The other way involves Show landing WMD and Punk is somehow able to knock Show out of the ring before making the cover on Cena. I don't think Cena will get pinned at this early stage in the feud, but it's certainly possible. After all, most people didn't think Punk would beat Cena at MITB last year or retain the title at the following SummerSlam, but that's exactly what happened.
CM Punk has a DVD coming out I think the 2nd or 3rd week in October, so I don't believe WWE is going to take the title off Punk anytime soon. Taking it off him beforehand could cost the DVD momentum in sales when it's released.
The Great King
Occasional Pre-Show
I'm thinking Punk retains here and keeps it until the Royal Rumble. I'm not looking foward to this match, I'm not a fan of Cena and Show's ring work.
The Hillside
Pre-Show Stalwart
Predictions are that Punk will retain the title at Summerslam. Since it's a triple threat Cena is not losing clean in a singles match or Punk will win the title through Bigshow's efforts.
Cena is likely to win the title from Punk at The Night of The Champions in his hometown of Boston. I have already read such news and it makes sense.
Punk can only keep the title till Royal Rumble if WWE wants Punk vs The Rock at Royal Rumble for the title and have Cena vs Rock at Wrestlemania 29.
Cena shall win the plan is vice-versa.
Anyways, I am not interested in this match. Cena vs Punk were main-eventing just last year and adding The Bigshow to the match makes it boring and predictable.
Cena is likely to win the title from Punk at The Night of The Champions in his hometown of Boston. I have already read such news and it makes sense.
Punk can only keep the title till Royal Rumble if WWE wants Punk vs The Rock at Royal Rumble for the title and have Cena vs Rock at Wrestlemania 29.
Cena shall win the plan is vice-versa.
Anyways, I am not interested in this match. Cena vs Punk were main-eventing just last year and adding The Bigshow to the match makes it boring and predictable.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Having Big Show involved doesn't necessarily ruin this match, but it comes really close.
Triple Threat matches usually stink, but when you take into consideration the chemistry between Cena and Punk, this really blows. Big Show has chemistry with no one. Never has.
I don't see the point. He doesn't belong. He's not on their level, and I think everyone outside of Vince understands this. Same thing at WM25. Cena vs. Edge would have worked, but for some reason, Vince loves to lump in Big Show.
This will hurt the match, no question.
Triple Threat matches usually stink, but when you take into consideration the chemistry between Cena and Punk, this really blows. Big Show has chemistry with no one. Never has.
I don't see the point. He doesn't belong. He's not on their level, and I think everyone outside of Vince understands this. Same thing at WM25. Cena vs. Edge would have worked, but for some reason, Vince loves to lump in Big Show.
This will hurt the match, no question.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
I don't really mind the inclusion of Big Show in it. He has been in some decent triple threat matches such as Vengeance 2003 and Royal Rumble 2005. If they really want to make an impact and have Punk retain, Show should knock out Cena and Punk takes out Show and steals the pin instead of having Show take the fall.
Heel Ziggler
Dark Match Winner
I wouldn't mind seeing punk try to work with cena and then turning on him. We might even see punk and show work to keep show down. I think that wwe could make this a great match if they make the build up worth while.
Big Show isn't the most exciting candidate for the third man in this match. But when you look at the rest of the Raw roster, who else could take his place? Big Show is a believable contender, and WWE did put a lot of effort into his heel turn, so Show isn't going to fade away into obscurity anytime soon.
The triple threat approach really doesn't do anything for me, but a three-way match for the title was inevitable. Brock Lesnar is going to have his hands full with HHH, but John Cena won't suffer a "just another match" scenario at Summerslam. Cena will be involved in a high profiled match at one of WWE's bigger pay per views, you can guarantee it. And as I said before, WWE has put a lot of work into Show's heel turn. Plus, Show played a big part in the past three Raw main events, so we were going to see a triple threat match at some point.
As far as the match goes, it should be entertaining. Another one-on-one match involving John Cena and Punk would create more of a buzz, because we all know these two are more than capable of delivering a great match together. But Show's presence shouldn't hurt this match. Of course, we'll probably see the "let's work together, and double team the giant!" bullshit from Punk and Cena, and since Punk is heading towards the direction of a heel turn, he'll probably turn on Cena at some point, and try to steal a quick pinfall.
Anyway, Punk should retain here. I expect his title reign to hit the one year mark, and by that time, Punk should be a full-blown heel.
The triple threat approach really doesn't do anything for me, but a three-way match for the title was inevitable. Brock Lesnar is going to have his hands full with HHH, but John Cena won't suffer a "just another match" scenario at Summerslam. Cena will be involved in a high profiled match at one of WWE's bigger pay per views, you can guarantee it. And as I said before, WWE has put a lot of work into Show's heel turn. Plus, Show played a big part in the past three Raw main events, so we were going to see a triple threat match at some point.
As far as the match goes, it should be entertaining. Another one-on-one match involving John Cena and Punk would create more of a buzz, because we all know these two are more than capable of delivering a great match together. But Show's presence shouldn't hurt this match. Of course, we'll probably see the "let's work together, and double team the giant!" bullshit from Punk and Cena, and since Punk is heading towards the direction of a heel turn, he'll probably turn on Cena at some point, and try to steal a quick pinfall.
Anyway, Punk should retain here. I expect his title reign to hit the one year mark, and by that time, Punk should be a full-blown heel.
Martin Gabriel
Pre-Show Stalwart
I like this, honestly. It works well for all three guys, keeping them all relevant, and gives Punk something big to give him even more legitimacy with a win. If it weren't a triple threat, that could easily take momentum away from Show, and I don't think it'd be smart to completely remove Cena from the title picture.
Punk to retain, but it should be an interesting-ish match.
Punk to retain, but it should be an interesting-ish match.
I get it, Big Show's not necessarily the most interesting guy on the roster, but he gives the WWE some real flexibility in how they can go through with the finish of this match. I'm expecting WWE to have Punk retain, but I don't know if they want to end the Punk/Cena feud at SummerSlam. They can have Big Show take the fall and then have Punk/Cena go on until Night of Champions and beyond, if they so choose. Furthermore, Big Show hasn't been bad as of late, so I don't think he'll actually hold this match back in the slightest. I mean, his match with Cena on Raw was about as good as TV matches come, and I'm sure he'll be able to bring that kind of quality at the PPV.
Like I said, though, I fully expect Punk to retain, but I suppose there's a slim possibility of him losing the belt. You'd have to assume we'll see Punk/Rock for the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble and I don't think Punk can hang onto the title for that long; however, with Triple H wanting longer title reigns, it's a plausible scenario. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cena won the championship at SummerSlam, then lost it to Punk sometime before the Royal Rumble, setting up Punk/Rock, which will most likely end up leading to Rock/Cena II. I can only hope that this title reign and heel turn for Punk will be able to make him a legitimate top guy, though.
Like I said, though, I fully expect Punk to retain, but I suppose there's a slim possibility of him losing the belt. You'd have to assume we'll see Punk/Rock for the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble and I don't think Punk can hang onto the title for that long; however, with Triple H wanting longer title reigns, it's a plausible scenario. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cena won the championship at SummerSlam, then lost it to Punk sometime before the Royal Rumble, setting up Punk/Rock, which will most likely end up leading to Rock/Cena II. I can only hope that this title reign and heel turn for Punk will be able to make him a legitimate top guy, though.
Notorious718
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After his actions and Rock's announcement about facing the WWE Champion at the Royal Rumble, I strongly feel that Punk is walking out of this match with the strap. I don't really have any interest whatsoever in the Big Show competing for the title. I'm thinking that the only reason he was even put into the match was to take the fall from Punk so Cena doesn't get beaten per se and gets a subsequent rematch later on. I'm not really sure if Punk will hold onto the title until the Royal Rumble (sure hope he does though) but I'm pretty certain he won't drop it until right after Survivor Series at the earliest. Would be nice to see a year long title reign.
Storyline wise, their is no reason for the Big Show to be involved. This should all be about Punk's issue with Cena and his subsequent heel turn. I think they are just confusing some fans by forcing Big Show into the angle.
Big Show is probably involved because he will be the one that gets pinned. Cena lost two high profile matches to Punk last year, I dont think they want Cena jobbing to Punk again.
To me it seems like this is all leading to Cena vs Rock WM rematch. I think Punk is going to win at SS. He is going to be the one that jobs to the Rock. Cena will win the Rumble and face the Rock again at WM and become champ.
It will be interesting to see if they actually put the title on the Rock. Usually, Vince would be 100% against the idea of a part-timer holding the title. Vince probably thinks this will be a huge moment for Cena. So he will just have to live with the fact that for a couple of months the current WWE champ will not be on WWE tv weekly.
Big Show is probably involved because he will be the one that gets pinned. Cena lost two high profile matches to Punk last year, I dont think they want Cena jobbing to Punk again.
To me it seems like this is all leading to Cena vs Rock WM rematch. I think Punk is going to win at SS. He is going to be the one that jobs to the Rock. Cena will win the Rumble and face the Rock again at WM and become champ.
It will be interesting to see if they actually put the title on the Rock. Usually, Vince would be 100% against the idea of a part-timer holding the title. Vince probably thinks this will be a huge moment for Cena. So he will just have to live with the fact that for a couple of months the current WWE champ will not be on WWE tv weekly.
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
Technically, you're right, but even while Show isn't the most compelling character, I think his inclusion in this 3-Way is logical. The company doesn't want to establish either Cena or Punk as dominant over the other.....not yet, anyway. In fact, since last Summer, they've avoided clean endings to their matches. When Punk emerged last year, he scored clean over Cena; everyone remembers that. After he "returned" to WWE, Cena pinned Punk on Raw. That was it; the company has gone out of their way to avoid physical confrontations between the two until the past couple weeks.
Enter Big Show. Now that Cena and Punk are at each other again, Show has been the random element, the guy who does run-ins to disrupt the flow of whatever is happening with the two main combatants. Last week, Punk ran in from his announcer's position to disrupt the Show-Cena match. And so it goes.
The Big Show belongs in this 3-Way. I doubt he'll walk out with the title, but he has a role to play in this program and they're going to let him be there for the finish.
Randyortonforpres
Dark Match Jobber
For this match I see Punk keeping the title, WWE wants Punk vs Rock at the rumble and that’s what I think is going to happen, WM will be Cena vs Rock 2 and of course they wont keep the title on The Rock so Cena wins the title from Rock at Mania, Everything makes sense.
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Hopefully CM Punk can kick the Big Show so hard in the head that he isn't able to get involved in these match again and he can go back to Smackdown until he retires. If not then I guess Punk can focus on retaining the title which is what I think will happen. Punk keeps the gold because of this supposed "Summer angle" and the big things that are "going" to happen with him and his character. I'm a little sick of his title reign but it'll be sure to make the one year mark.
Punk wins and continues to build his crazy new angle for the rest of the year.
Punk wins and continues to build his crazy new angle for the rest of the year.
A victory here is 100% crucial to CM Punk. He needs to prove once and for all that HE needs to be the focus of the show during his time as WWE Champion. Not John Cena. What better way to do that than to close the show after having defeated Cena in the main event of the second biggest show of the year? Cena winning is always a possibility, but if they want to make Punk into a legit top guy then this is one of the most important victories he will ever have. I can understand Trips & Lesnar potentially going on last, but for Punk's sake this NEEDS to close.
I'd expect a decent match, but it will probably not be as good as Trips VS Lesnar or Ziggler VS Jericho. It either goes on last or second to last if Trips & Lesnar are closing. There is no way they will be able to top the Money In the Bank or Summerslam matches they had together last year. However, we know Cena and Punk are capable of working a great match together so this could end up being good. It won't be the best of the evening but it surely will not be the worst either. I expect at least a decent match and for Punk to retain.
Oh yeah, Big Show is in this thing too. That changes nothing. Punk still wins, Cena still puts up a fight, Big Show will just kinda be there being boring.
DAGGER'S PREDICTION
CM Punk will retain the WWE Championship
I'd expect a decent match, but it will probably not be as good as Trips VS Lesnar or Ziggler VS Jericho. It either goes on last or second to last if Trips & Lesnar are closing. There is no way they will be able to top the Money In the Bank or Summerslam matches they had together last year. However, we know Cena and Punk are capable of working a great match together so this could end up being good. It won't be the best of the evening but it surely will not be the worst either. I expect at least a decent match and for Punk to retain.
Oh yeah, Big Show is in this thing too. That changes nothing. Punk still wins, Cena still puts up a fight, Big Show will just kinda be there being boring.
DAGGER'S PREDICTION
CM Punk will retain the WWE Championship
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
I'll buy that. Punk does need it, especially since he seems to be morphing into a 'tweener, or possibly going full evil. To lose the title he's held for so long in the midst of this change hardly seems feasible. Plus, if he's going to be engaging the Rock soon, it's better for buy rate purposes that he does so as champion.
Also, I can't fathom WWE wanting to put the belt around Big Show's ample waist....not now, and possibly not ever. He's a spoiler, a random element tossed into situations to alter their course. He'll win some matches, leave some people lying.....but it's hard to see him as a titleholder at this point in his career.
That leaves you-know-who. Plainly, John Cena has proven he's the #1 guy in the company whether he has the title or not. He's won it many times and he's going to win it again......obviously. Still, I can't see him achieving his next reign by prevailing in a 3-way. As I see it, when the company is ready for Cena's next title reign, it will be a one-on-one, which is the time-tested way for a wrestler to win a major championship, especially when they occupy the rarefied status possessed by a John Cena. Sure, The Miz or Dolph Ziggler could win the title in a 3-way or 4-way match and it wouldn't shake up anything.....but a Cena (or Hogan or Austin or Rock) should take the duke by cleanly defeating one foe.
An entirely new set of circumstances will have to evolve before we see Cena as champion again...... as of yet, there isn't even a glimmer of this. It's not time.
If I'm wrong and Cena wins, that's fine. But I think Punk retains.
It's...Baylariat!
Team Finnley Baylor
Punk's going to hold on to this belt until at LEAST Survivor Series, maybe even the Royal Rumble. It's the same ol' song and dance, and same ol' boring match. Nothing exciting about this match at all. Big Show working with two, much more athletic and faster people just doesn't make for an entertaining match.
The only swerve would be to have Cena pin Big Show and Punk lose the belt without being pinned. Logic would tell you it plays into the whole' Punk wanting to be center of attention' angle and now he's not because Cena won the belt. Again.
That being said, I think Punk retains in some fashion.
The only swerve would be to have Cena pin Big Show and Punk lose the belt without being pinned. Logic would tell you it plays into the whole' Punk wanting to be center of attention' angle and now he's not because Cena won the belt. Again.
That being said, I think Punk retains in some fashion.
Carlito_Orton
Occasional Pre-Show
I'm pretty certain Punk's retaining here.He's just starting to turn heel and I can't see them taking the title off him mid-heel turn.I would of much preferred Cena vs Punk 1 on 1 though but I guess they're saving that for NOC.
I go into more detail about my prediction for this match in a video I made
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I go into more detail about my prediction for this match in a video I made
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JWGunslinger
Warrior Forever
I'm actually really looking forward to this one, and am very happy with the Big Show's involvement. Not because I'm a real fan or I want him to win at all but having him in the match makes things more unpredictable and exciting. What I'm hoping for is that he prevents Cena from winning and Punk retains, I want to see Punk hold that title and build his position as a bad guy leading into the Royal Rumble because I'm all for Cena-Rock 2 at Wrestlemania but after they got us excited to see Punk and Rocky mix it up in the ring at Raw 1000 that shit needs to happen. That said I see Big Show going for Cena, Cena takes him out but then Punk surprises him and gets the pin.
To those who've said that Punk's not gonna lose his WWE Championship and keep holding it when he goes into the Royal Rumble, I couldn't disagree more. While I'm split on him retaining this Sunday and being the champ heading into the Rumble, I'm afraid he's gonna lose it during the year, but he's gonna regain it on the same year, making him a three-time WWE Champion. Although Punk's my favorite wrestler right now, I don't think that the WWE's gonna let him surpass the one-year mark. Therefore, I'm expecting him to lose it to either SuperCena, but not necessarily this Sunday, or a new number one contender, then regain it by the end of the year. If he doesn't lose his title within the year and holds it going into the Rumble though, I'll be exceptionally thrilled.
Being a fan of Punk, I really want him to pass the 1 year mark as champion. Here is how I see it really happening. Punk hits some move to make Big Show unconscious and Cena grabs Punk from pinning Show and hits the AA on Punk and then pins the still unconscious Big Show to become 11 time world champion.
This will make Vince McMahon happy since John Cena is clearly his favorite wwe superstar of all time.
This will make Vince McMahon happy since John Cena is clearly his favorite wwe superstar of all time.
**good call with the predictions on Punk "picking up the scraps" to retain his title
I've liked Punk during this current title run, but it really does seem like he's in a no win situation as if he's Champ @ Rumble
he'll likely lose the belt to the Rock, setting up Cena-Rock 2 at WM
YAWN, just my 2 cents but I don't really feel the first Cena-Rock lived up to the hype, and even though I was happy about Rock getting the win but overall I felt the match stank and wasn't very entertaining
but with the Rock announcing he's getting a Title Shot @ Rumble, can't blame the WWE for likely running back Rock-Cena at Mania
I've liked Punk during this current title run, but it really does seem like he's in a no win situation as if he's Champ @ Rumble
he'll likely lose the belt to the Rock, setting up Cena-Rock 2 at WM
YAWN, just my 2 cents but I don't really feel the first Cena-Rock lived up to the hype, and even though I was happy about Rock getting the win but overall I felt the match stank and wasn't very entertaining
but with the Rock announcing he's getting a Title Shot @ Rumble, can't blame the WWE for likely running back Rock-Cena at Mania
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