Sheamus is the NEW WWE Champion

[Muttley]

What the WWE needs to do now is capitalize on things that they have already started. They should continue with the Carlito/Raw locker room story line and make Cena start all the way back from the bottom and go thru Carlito and whoever else is against Cena. Now don't make Cena plow thru them really easy, but they should/could def. get some stories out of the conspiracy against Cena.

But then what for Sheamus?? Kofi and Orton? I dunno, but what they shouldn't do is give Cena the title back on Raw OR after his rematch.

 

[taog08]

It's obvious that Cena is winning the belt back tomorrow night on RAW. Think about it: If Sheamus defends against Cena Jan 4, nobody is gonna watch it. Sheamus is nowhere close to main event ready. Besides, we know TNA is going to try something HUGE that night, so tomorrow Cena gets it back IMO

 

[sammysrh]

What? They gave that massive twat the title? They took the title off of WWE's top draw and gave it to that useless pile of shite, and I say shite because it's how the Irish say shit. Jesus Christ, I never held that much against HHH, but apparently Mcintyre won as well, meaning that both HHH's buddys got titles.

Problem is they both suck, I hope to god that this isnt true, or they both fail, I feel bad for John Cena, he's the best in the World today and he has to go through this shit. The Rock wouldnt have gone through this shit, he'd have just told HHH to go fuck himself, sometimes I wish Cena were less of a company man

Ok first off he isn't a "massive twat" you seem like the person who is in love with Cena. Well I will respectfully disagree and say that he is anything but useless if you have seen him wrestle and everything about him. Now the useless person is probably John Cena MORE THAN Sheamus, BECAUSE John Cena has the same boring gimmick where its "the best man wins" attitude and he is good on the mic i will admit although he gets the cheesiest lines. But Cena's in ring ability fucking sucks, he gets beat up for 20 minutes and then comes back with 5 to 7 moves and wins miraculously. I'm sure that this Sheamus v Cena match was a huge refresh to people who are tired of seeing what i just mentioned. Ok second off I really disagree about how they are HHH's buddies so they get titles. It is up to the creative team how the book matches and who wins and loses. HHH banging the bosses daughter might have little to no effect who wins titles. If the Rock were to tell hhh to fuck himself than he might be out of a job or suspended. As well as Cena, Cena is doing this program with Sheamus and so far its going good because Cena never has younger talent get over on him, its like hes super cena. It really gets pretty fucking old after a while but after having creative team book Sheamus to win over Cena his first title after all of that build up before TLC, makes Sheamus look like a decently credible champion SO FAR. I know he only nudged Cena through a table to win but the point is that he defeated Cena. So i personally think that you need to look at the talent before judging it no offense.

 

[fdogg83097]

I really dont think Cena will win the title back tomorrow night on Raw. Think about it, if he is going to miss the Jan. 4th head to head then why would Vince want his champion not being there. They will probably play up a angle where Sheamus beats down Cena and hurts him so bad he needs time off.

 

[Big Sexy]

Like a few others have said, I see this being a very short one day regn similar to Kane's back in 1998. The situations are very similar.

1998- Steve Austin is the top guy in the company. Kane is a youngster who gets a title shot very early on in his career. They are placed into a gimmick match (first blood) where a guy like Kane could get somewhat of a "fluke" victory. This especially favored Kane because of the ring attire he wore at this time. Kane wins and then loses the title the next night.

2009- John Cena is the top guy in the company. Sheamus gets a title shot very early on in his career. Once again it's a gimmick match (table match) and it would be very easy for Sheamus to get a victory without dominating Cena. Sheamus gets the win by basically pushing Cena off the top rope and having him fall through a table.

Cena will use his rematch tomorrow night and get the title back. Then at the Rumble I could see something like Cena, Sheamus, Orton, and Kofi in a fatal four way for the title.

 

[shafe_41]

I had a feeling he would win...

Yeah OK. And I rode my unicorn to work today too.

I personally am not a fan of this at all. Sheamus is not going to hold on to the title very long seeing as having him headline a Rumble... would be a god awful idea. This guy destroys Jamie Noble, picks on Lawler, beats Santino, and is now WWE Champion? Something smells wrong.

 

[jayteeERA]

Well WWE went a whole new different direction with this one. Its a good thing that Sheamus has won because now wwe is interesting then its ever been in a while. I could of saw this coming. When Cena talked about a rematch clause on Monday. But i still stand by my statement saying by no means Sheamus doesn't deserves the title or main event. But if vince wanted to go this way i ll stand by it.

 

[DirtyJosé]

I can't really say if Sheamus deserves anything, but I can say they did the safest fast push they could do. They gave him intense exposure without jobbing out the other contenders for the belt, weakening them in their own feuds (like imagine Orton losing to Sheamus beforehand?). If they had given him time to prove himself, it would have been the same kind of push that they always build for guys, and it would play into that eternal "WWE never changes, too predictable" argument. This was the alternative, just push him there. Yes, it's a shady win, but that's what heels get.

 

[RavensFlock1990]

Sheamus as WWE Champion? Well if this ain't a joke by WWE then maybe TNA has a chance. You make a guy that was running away scared from Goldust a few months ago on ECW the champ on your flagship brand. So destroying a cameraman and Jamie Noble makes you champ material?

Its real disturbing that guys like Matt Hardy, Christian, Shelton Benjamin, MVP and hell even Mark Henry who are all established veterans that are over with the fans are stuck doing nothing while a ginger-monster? that runs from trannies is now the face of the company (atleast for a day).

Cena is stale as fuck right now but no way on earth should he have lost tonight to some nobody newcomer. I'd bet anything if Sheamus' buddy Trips was in Cena's spot there would have been no way he woulda put Sheamus over tonight.

 

[TimeToPlayTheGame09]

First off this was one of the best ppv I've seen in a while. Second I'm glad to see sheamus win. Its bout time the cena reign takes a turn. I think the wwe is going to build something with this. Cena doesn't need a title shot tomorrow. I wanna see somebody new as champion regardless of if they don't deserve. I once was a big cena fan but I'm tired of him being champion.cena needs a new angle now. I'm just ready to see how this turns out.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

I posed this on the wrong thread

I think this is just a way to get the belt of Cena w/o making Cena look weak. It almost feels like Sheamus win was a fluke victory. What I am thinking now is Sheamus will loose the WWE Title before WM either to Shawn Michaels or Triple H, leading to a HBK/HHH match for the WWE Title.

I hate that scenario. Personally I actually like it that Sheamus won the WWE Title. A bit early? I guess but what matters now is how dominant they push him should they decide for him to hold the title til WM.

However, one scenario I could see happening is that Kingston beats Sheamus. Punk wins the Rumble. Setting up Kingston vs. Punk at WM. Hmmm I'd like that also

 

[CraigThe13th]

A lot of people on here are reacting like I did when I was a little boy and saw Yokozuna throw Randy Savage over the top at a Royal Rumble years ago on a tape my friend lent me the next day!

Change is good every once and a while, If Sheamus bombs, he bombs. At least he was given a shot, the most fun in wrestling is always shocks, good and bad ones I think.

Here's to the first irish world champ! I like him but think he we be a bit of an Iron Shiek/Kane/Slaughter style caretaker champ.

 

[quis82788]

What the WWE needs to do now is capitalize on things that they have already started. They should continue with the Carlito/Raw locker room story line and make Cena start all the way back from the bottom and go thru Carlito and whoever else is against Cena. Now don't make Cena plow thru them really easy, but they should/could def. get some stories out of the conspiracy against Cena.

But then what for Sheamus?? Kofi and Orton? I dunno, but what they shouldn't do is give Cena the title back on Raw OR after his rematch.

I actually love this idea. I think Sheamus could be used very effectively while Cena is building himself up through the locker room with the main person being Carlito. If it were me I would have Sheamus fued with people and ultimately win the fued. Then the person that Sheamus was fueding with could go back into the fold of guys Cena has to beat. Where I think this would be interesting would be if someone who was fighting Cena with Carlito and the locker room fought Sheamus and ended up losing to him would then go ahead and form a sort of alliance with Cena to beat the locker room alliance. This way Sheamus could fight someone like Kofi or maybe Priceless if they break up, they will get the title fight (even though they lost) and then get more of a rub from helpin cena fight off the rest of the locker room. This would also give people a better reason to fight each other instead of what creative has now. I would make it so Cena is getting jumped almost weekly so when he gets that person it begins to even out and then the person who is with Cena could even turn on him for a title shot which creates more matches and keeps Cena in but out of the title picture for a long time if booked right.

Thoughts or Additions or Subtractions?

 

[And I'm Awesome]

I have problems seeing WWE putting their full creative force behind Sheamus, even after the title win. I think we'll see the WWE Title change hands on RAW...just not until after January 4...With Cena being the Fiesta Bowl's Grand Marshall, he's gonna be MIA for the "Monday Night Skirmish." WWE is going to want their champion on the show, so...it kind of makes sense to pull the belt from Cena for the time being.

Were does Sheamus go as champion? I've posted elsewhere, but I could see him holding on to the belt through RR to drop it at EC (probably to or at the hands of his good buddy Triple H). I think Sheamus could be the next MiTB winner, which would give him time to build up to a successful second WWE/WHC Title Reign...

 

[gwumusic10]

I think it's great that Sheamus is the new champion. Now yes I do agree that there are people out there more deserving but this is something new.

One problem I did have with the finish of the match is that it really seemed as if what took place with Cena going through the table wasn't the actual finish that was supposed to take place. So one has to ask....Is Sheamus WWE Champion by accident?

Cena is very old for the simple fact that he gets shoved down our throats week in and week out. Don't get me wrong I respect everything he has done for the business but IMO I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised by this title reign.

 

[thedirtybatz]

My guess is that they might hold off on the rematch until the jan 4th edition of raw since they're going head to head with tna. But I was surprised to see Sheamus win the strap since it is so early in his WWE career.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Horrible. It will be transitional, which makes it a "why bother" situation, it gives Cena yet another title reign under his name, Sheamus doesn't deserve the honor of being a former WWE champion, it'll screw up the ratings most likely, and it's a giant slap in the face to all those people that are being overlooked because they're "not ready for the main event" like Morrison and whatnot. You mean to tell me Sheamus is more advanced as a superstar than the Miz? And shock value does not automatically mean it's good. By that rationale, Hornswoggle winning the WWE title would be a shock and also good?

Absolute bullshit. And before anyone pulls out the card of "everyone complains that there are no new champions and now that they have one they're still complaining"...don't be so simple minded. People aren't looking for something different for the sake of something different, they're looking for something GOOD and different. Tyler fucking Reks is a new star and would be something different, but you don't see people clamoring to see him as the champ by default, do you?

Is there any question wHHHo there is to blame for this, when out of the blue, his workout partner and his little buddy that "reminds him of a younger version of himself" just end up doing nothing but getting the IC title and WWE championship in no time? It's amazing that these other wrestlers don't do something about it.

 

[a man with a plan]

thank god, i am sick of seeing john cena as wwe champion he needs to have a good feud with someone and not have it for a title.

I dont see sheamus being the champ for very long maybe until the royal rumble and possibly lose to HHH, shawn michaels or someone like that. I dont see him holding it till wrestlemania but also there could be a bit of a face term, for one young ted dibiase.

If the wwe were going to turn dibiase face it would be now, have it just like wen randy orton won the heavy weight title, have him win a battle royal then beat sheamus. Then have orton and rhodes turn of dibiase and have dibiase vs. orton for the title at mania. yes i realise that this would be the 3rd straight year in a row where orton would be in a main event for WM.

That is one thing i would like to see but i no its a very low possibility.

 

[Wrestling_Alumni]

My thoughts on sheamus winning the tile is wow. I can't believe they gave him the title. wwe must see potential in him and and really happy he won. Yes i do believe he can hold the title for awhile because he is undefeated and shows a dominate force. He has an awesome career in FCW so why not continue it. Also Sheamus proved wrestling is not fake by the wealts and bruises on his body. congrats to sheamus for an awesome win and lets hope he continues his reckoning

 

[XgringolocoX]

I haven't gone through the pages of posts, so please excuse me if i repeat someone's else's thoughts. I would just like to give my own without being swayed either one way or another by something.
I think this is great. I posted a few motnhs ago that I would like to see a guy come in a decimate everyone and get straight to the title. BAM! enter my man Sheamus!

I like having a Doomsday to thwart Supercena. Maybe they should pair him up with Striker as he'd make a great Lex Luthor....but I digress.

His titles reign I'd like to see strong and with some lenght. Now's not the time to waste with a weak ass NEW heel champ. I's like to see sheamus keep going strong beatin Cean up.

I think if they build Sheamus as a ligit strong champ it could help turn around some of the dulldrums we've been complaining about.

That's my 2 cents on the subject...now i'll puruse what y'all said......

 

[RicSpade]

Man the postin' is getting hot and heavy here as the Celtic Warrior has already got people picking sides of Cena shouldn't have lost, Sheamus is too green, Sheamus is the best blah blah blah...

I will point out that both sides are valid and here is why...
Cena really has been the only real face champion besides Triple H and the Undertaker in the last year, and because of that watching him defend the title has become stale, atleast with a heel holding the belt it makes challengers more viable so in that sense I am happy Cena lost the belt.

On the other hand Sheamus has been pushed way way way too quickly for his own good, doesn't anyone remember Brock Lesnar? Billed as a monster star who eliminated the Rock and he opted out of his contract after WWE did all that work with him, and had to make him lose to a leaving Goldberg who didn't do much for the WWE product? To me the only reason I hate this is because he didn't really beat anyone on Raw besides Jamie Noble and time keeper Mark Eaton, and on ECW has lost to Goldust. Now that doesn't make Goldust better than Sheamus or Cena cause Cena didn't beat Sheamus and Sheamus does hold 3 victories if I am not mistaken over the golden one.

Do I like Sheamus? I think its different, but yeah its worth it to put a belt on someone fresh, does this hurt WWE? Absolutely see I know Cena is going to film his new movie soon, and thats prolly why he lost the belt, but if Sheamus loses the belt in the next 2 months or 6 title defenses he loses all momentum as a monster, and his reign will be no more important then the great khali's or Kanes, or CM Punk. (and don't give me the Punk and Khali held the world title spew either I am talking winning a major title here).

 

[Spillz3000]

I say why not? Let Sheamus get a run with the belt and we'll see where it goes from here. I'd rather it be anybody else that's more deserving but if creative is willing to try something new then fine lets see what happens.

Unfortunately this stinks of transitional champ. But I also think the fact that it smells like transitional champ a mile a way is the reason why he won't be.

It's been said a couple of times on this forum why bother? Exactly my point. Why would WWE put the strap on Sheamus just to have him have a one day, few weeks, or up till the next PPV reign. I think WWE is tired of using their top belts to get switched as often as they do and I don't think they are going to have Sheamus lose it that quickly. Honestly I think Sheamus will hold it till Wrestlemania. Everybody thinks cause Sheamus has the belt it's the end of the Main Event Division. There's still another World Title while the sheamus experiment is going on. While they are testing the waters with the Sheamus WWE title reign they still have a World Heavyweight Division they can do great things with.

So if Sheamus doesn't lose tomorrow night I say he loses the WWE title to the Royal Rumble winner at Wrestlemania who I would love to be Kofi or Morrison. But I think Sheamus's title reign is very intentional and might surprise a few people. But if he loses it soon I can't say that it would be a surprise either.

 

[BOSS Productions]

Yeah OK. And I rode my unicorn to work today too.

I personally am not a fan of this at all. Sheamus is not going to hold on to the title very long seeing as having him headline a Rumble... would be a god awful idea. This guy destroys Jamie Noble, picks on Lawler, beats Santino, and is now WWE Champion? Something smells wrong.

Sorry let me rephrase it, I wanted him to win anyways even though Sheamus is not going to hold the title for a long time, winning it would have been better then having him lose the match because well they pushed him into the main event so fast and made him look like this monster , to have him lose will make him lose all his momentum, this is exactly what happened with Umaga he was booked the same way to face Cena but he lost and he ended up a mid carder and one that lost more than he won .

 

[Striddy]

Cena has to drop the belt tonight on Raw. Cena has a WWE Championship Match against Chris Jericho on Tribute to the Troops, which airs this Saturday. Unless they dont include it in the show, which i highly doubt since Cena has been all over the NBC Commercials for it, a Cena/Sehamus Reatch has to happen tonight on Raw, with Cena going over.

 

[BigRed007]

WOW. After beating never-will-be jobbers week after week, they give the psychotic Ronald McDonald the title shot and have him win? He's NEVER beat anyone special who's been world champion before that. I mean puting Jamie Noble into "retirement" is a joke. He's going to lose way before WrestleMania. GUARANTEED. He hasn't beat HBK, HHH, RKO, Y2J, Big Show, Undertaker. Hasn't even faced any of them. Ken Kennedy was way more credible at being a champion early on because he beat former world champions. I'd rather see Jimmy Wang Yang as world champion then SHEamus. He's going to be a transitional champion. I hope TNA's head-to-head with Hogan blows Raw out of the water to make them be good again