Sheamus is the NEW WWE Champion

[Zeven_Zion]

I don't think that Sheamus is now champ by accidence. Why? .. well if Sheamus was not scheduled to win the match...why in the BLUE hell would Cena leap off the turnbuckle and go through the table while knowing that there is a table behind him which he set up on his own and he must win the match? He clearly jumped on his own.

Was it a botched finish? Yes... was it the wrong finish? Nope

As far as Sheamus as Champion goes .. I'm quite alright with it. I can't think of anyone else besides Dolph Ziggler that I'd like to see as champ so good for him.. Only problem I have is that I can't get a damn word he says but hey.. It's "Doblio Doblio E" and he's its "Shampion" so yeah...big deal. At least it's not Cena.

...although if you pinch the guy he'll be red for months..GEEZ!

 

[Hardinhoff]

I am completely confused with this decision. I also don't understand how anyone could see this being a good idea. Sheamus is by far the greenest of the green when it comes to the main show. I've watched his stuff from FCW and its OK but nothing spectacular. To have him defeat John Cena (I don't care what anyone says, WWE has made John Cena their Superman. Almost as if he's indestructible or something) is the worst decision I've seen. EVER.

Let Sheamus work his way up just a little. If they wanted to push him that quickly, why not have him maybe (and this is a LONG shot) win the RR and then have Orton or another contender slink in to make it a Triple Threat? Or let him win the "Breakthrough Battle Royal" (what a joke) and get a shot at Cena the next week on RAW, lose, then go on a revenge rampage of sorts until he gets enough credibility to legitimately defeat Cena or whoever else would be champion at that time? There are many ways that Vince and Co. could have made this situation believable. Instead, we have to sit and actually believe that after not doing much of anything, not even winning a mid-card title or having a feud with a main eventer, the mighty John Cena is defeated by Sheamus.

This is a joke. I'm glad I read the results and didn't order the PPV. If I had to sit and watch this happen, I would feel as if I were just insulted by Vince McMahon himself.

 

[wolvdog316]

I was right AND I was wrong. And I HATE being wrong.

I honestly thought Sheman would take the strap. But I thought just for kicks and wham lose it following nights.

Now where I was wrong. I think Vince did this because of TNA. I said on these very boards that I didn't believe Vince would change a thing, I didn't believe Vince would look at TNA as a thread and make Raw any different. I was wrong, BIG time. I think Sheman holds the title til at least the RR. And then extended Raw to 3 hours? I think we will have a heel vs heel match. Orton vs Sheman. I think they will test his crowd response.

But yes, WWE has finally shocked me. Been a while. I will say this though. If Sheman retains past RR I will put on a skirt and hula on youtube. And that's a promise.

And if everybody talking about HBK vs HHH at WM is actually true, man, along with what I think will be Rock vs Cena, that's going to be a special WM.

And the only reason I suspect Rock vs Cena is I think Rock wants his name back. And the only way I could see Vince giving it to him is a WM payday with Cena. I'm probably wrong, BUT then again, Sheman could actually head to EC as Champ :|

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Let's just have an aside here for a moment...

To everyone who is saying "man you people aren't happy when they give the belt to a new guy" you're just being stupid here. People wanted to see the belt on a new guy not ANY new guy. You can't expect people to love everything that's different just BECAUSE it's different.

For now I'm sticking with my original thoughts. I'm not a huge fan of Sheamus right now but I'm willing to see what happens.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Okay so let me get this straight...

Us...the Internet Smarks have been bitching, moaning and crying how LAME Cena is and how much we hate him as Champion and overall. We constantly bash him for his super powers and that he's being shoved down our throats.

At the same time we cry and whine about new talent not being pushed hard enough.

We complain that there are no "fresh faces" in the Main Event and Title Picture.

So, at TLC we got all of that and we got it BIG TIME.

1. Cena is not Champion anymore - Check!

2. Cena did not win - Check!

3. Clearly he's no Superman 'cause he went out like nothing - Check!

4. New Face got an opportunity - Check!

5. Who's "fresher" than Sheamus? NOONE! - Check!

6. New guy in the Main Event Scene -AND- the title picture - Check!

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Let's sum it all up. It turns out that Vince was right all along. WHATEVER this guy does some people will always, ALWAYS complain. Well folks, he gave us what we wanted. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

Well done Vince! ( I mean it, no sarcasm )

I am EXTREMELY satisfied with the Pay Per View, glad I bought it, and everything that happened. Reminds me of the old days when you just didn't know what was going to happen. And now? Now for the first time in almost 10 years I am actually going to tune in on RAW and watch it RELIGIOUSLY 'cause I have no clue what will happen.

 

[Roark77]

I liked the title change simply because it was unpredictible, especially since Cena has been involved in more then a few of these monster heel feuds over the last few years (ie Umaga, Khali, etc). The match was solid (and the PPV in general was good) and the finish made it clear that it wasn't as if Sheamus pinned Cena or made him submit (I found the Cena "Never Forget" moment odder than anything else). I think everyone worried (or not) about an 8 month title run for Sheamus need to remember that there is one thing that make that unlikely - Wrestlemania is fast approaching.

The Rumble is a good place for a champion that doesn't have to be relied upon to sell the PPV since the Rumble match should do that on its own. I can understand the switch to Sheamus to see what kind of reaction it gets from both the casual fans and the ones that need to know who works out with HHH and whether Orton pisses standing up or sitting down. I can even picture Sheamus making it through the Rumble as the champ (though I can equally picture him losing the belt at tonight's RAW).

Either way, it's unlikely that he'll make it through the Elimination Chamber PPV to get to Wrestlemania as the champ. I could see Sheamus fighting in the Chamber and maybe even knocking out a top tier star but if he wins then he likely would have to go to Wrestlemania as the champ. As it's been said before, Vince is about the $$$ and I just don't see Sheamus selling Wrestlemania. I like Sheamus' upside more then some of the guys that have had similar angles with Cena (i.e. Umaga, Khali, Kozlov, etc) but I just can't imagine him being the face of Wrestlemania this year.

I know it'll never happen but I wish this loss to Sheamus would be the start of a huge Cena heel turn. Now that could sell Wrestlemania.

Anyone that thinks Sheamus winning the World Title counts as the worst champ ever must have forgotten about the 7'+ of awesome that was Khali, World Heavyweight Champion, with his amazing technical skills and charisma.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

I think this is a bold move for the WWE....

Think about it, people wanted change, they got it, they wanted the title off of John Cena well they got that too.

With this interesting turn of events that unfolded at TLC i see this as a positive step in the right direction, two new guys are getting pushed to the moon, younger talent is getting over and hopefully this means a step up in WWE's whole stance on the younger generation of talent.

I just hope they allow the guy to get a decent shot at holding the belt otherwise anything they do now will make their decision to put the belt on him unwarranted.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This has GOT to be the fastest push in WWE history.

Sheamus was not even on the roster a year ago! You know what though? Even though I am a huge Cena mark, I gotta give WWE credit on this one. This title change got EVERYONE talking. I signed on tonight thinking there might be a couple of posts talking about the new champion, and what do I see? 80 posts on it. EIGHTY POSTS!!!! This really got everyone talking and I'm sure all of us are interested in seeing what happens on Raw. I expect Raw to get really high ratings this week.

As far as Sheamus as champion.... WWE really must see something in him because (as I said in my first sentence of this post) this is the fastest push I have ever seen in my life. There is always the chance that he won by accident or some other kind of fluke, but I will wait to find out for sure before going any further into those thoughts. I don't see this reign lasting long at all. There is no way that Sheamus will be main eventing Wrestlemania. None. He will probably lose the belt (and I know this will disappoint some) to either Cena, Orton, or HHH sometime before or around Elimination Chamber.

Props to WWE for making this move, but I highly doubt it will last long simply because of how FAST Sheamus rose through the ranks, no one is THAT good.... but I will give his title reign a chance and see where it goes.

 

[Da Prophet]

Long live the Celtis Warrior,whoooo.Finally a great new.Awesome monster heel is the champion.Sheamus is a great choice of a champion.Cena sucks and everyone knows it.Sheamus better hold the title to EC or i'm going to go off my nut and go crazy.But he shouldn't main event Mainia(not that good).

Long Live The Celtic Champion......Sheamus(who's next)

Thats just me!

 

[shaneoshea]

Sheamus will lose the title to Cena tonite 12-14-09 on Monday night raw. Cena will come out with his I am a fighter I m here for a fight getting the crowd all riled up then Sheamus will come out saying he isn't going to fight blah blah blah he is the new champ. then Dennis Miller will say that there will be a rematch later in the night for the tilte and Cena will win the belt back and he will be champ when Tribute to the troos airs. Whoo nuff said

 

[TLC]

I was talking in the LD whilst watching TLC and when Sheamus won the whole forum errupted with non stop threads and everyone was talking about.

Now I believe this a bold move on WWE's part putting the belt on some one who can barely draw heat. I like the fact that they are pushing the new guys but I wish it was someone other than Sheamus. There are plenty other guys who deserve a push more than him. He looked shit in the match as well, like a right pussy. I'm not even sure whether or not he actually pushed him or if Cena fell. I just don't understand why they are pushing him when he hasn't done shit. He's not as intimidating as Kane or Brock Lesnar. He is just a pasty, bad haircut, mediocre big man. Wow it sounds like I really dislike Sheamus which I think I might now. Oh well i'll be looking forward too see how they carry on with this story line.

 

[Mr_billy]

Is the WWE planning a European tour soon, some Google Seamus. It reads he was a Champ twice in Europe and had several years there and was a heel. Also, has everyone seen his FCW work? Everyone here complains when Cena is champ, and complains when he isn't. Remember, children and other people make up way more of the WWE fan base then we do, so it is written for them. If you are targeting children for your audience, Seamus is scary. Everyone wants the stars to Job to new Talent, and now the complaints run thick when they do to boost new talent.

 

[bigfatnacho]

Like a few others have said, I see this being a very short one day regn similar to Kane's back in 1998. The situations are very similar.

1998- Steve Austin is the top guy in the company. Kane is a youngster who gets a title shot very early on in his career. They are placed into a gimmick match (first blood) where a guy like Kane could get somewhat of a "fluke" victory. This especially favored Kane because of the ring attire he wore at this time. Kane wins and then loses the title the next night.

2009- John Cena is the top guy in the company. Sheamus gets a title shot very early on in his career. Once again it's a gimmick match (table match) and it would be very easy for Sheamus to get a victory without dominating Cena. Sheamus gets the win by basically pushing Cena off the top rope and having him fall through a table.

Cena will use his rematch tomorrow night and get the title back. Then at the Rumble I could see something like Cena, Sheamus, Orton, and Kofi in a fatal four way for the title.

Sheamus got a Title shot months after his debut but kane debuted in 1997, see that's one year but sheamus got it in um.. lets see.. 3 MONTHS. Although it is quite interesting see him a champ.

 

[Lee]

Great stuff, I love me a surprise. HHH and HBK are out of the championship race being tag champs now. Kofi and Randy are in one of my favourite feuds of recent times so why not have Sheamus as champion, it seems liek no one thought he would win, and props to WWE for having the balls to do this. I guess time will tell on whether it's a good move or not, but you can't diss Sheamus for it, he does well in the ring (in my opinion) and has somethign a bit different. Was it too early for him? Sure it was but hey, it's entertaining and that's the point.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I absolutely love it. If HHH was supposedly in McMahon's ear, then so be it. Sheamus is not going to be champion for a long time. I can see him holding the title until January 4th or if not the Royal Rumble. It's been over a year since a world title changed hands on RAW and I believe that was a 3-hr show as well. It gives us something new for a while and I hope it doesn't become a one-day reign because look what at did to Kane. Did we take him seriously as a world title contender? No and it took ten years later for him to win a world title. I'm curious to see how Sheamus will be as champion and I will definitely be watching RAW tonight.

 

[stussyman311]

Just like everyone, yea, I was shocked as hell. I'm not going to sit here and bitch and moan. I hate Cena, and Shameass does nothing for me, but I noticed something about the match.

Cena fell off the turnbuckle and through a table. Ok. Shameass fell off the ropes to the outside where there was a table set up. He sorta hit the table but it did not break. As soon as I saw that, I thought "oh man, maybe he should've went through that one and it'd be a draw." What do you think? Is it possible that this WWE Title win really was by accident?

I think if it was an accident, we will see on Raw tonight someone come out and explain that the opponent needs to be put through the table, not just sorta fall into it on their own. They can easily take the title back from Shameass and basically null that reign from the record books. I hate Cena, but I kind of want to see that because right now I'm just really against Shameass not paying his dues and now he's privileged to be holding the same belt as people like Bruno Sammartino and Bret Hart have held.

Just seemed so odd watching all this last night.

 

[theviolentmessiah]

I was surprised to see Sheamus pick up the win, this is good though as WWE actually keeping us on our toes. Of course I'm pleased that Cena lost, just, to anyone. But I don't think he will keep it long, I suspect he loses it on a TV taping and not even a PPV but I hope WWE gives him a run, it's good to see someone new but what about Morrison and Kingston who have been working for it so hard?

 

[MikeyNasty]

And even better, the year won't end with John Cena as champion!!!!

Actually, yeah, it probably will.

Anyway, from my point of view, this is a great move by creative. We have Sheamus. He "decimated" and forced Jamie Noble to retire. He "crippled" a cameraman and Jerry Lawler. He obliterated Cena and Cuban last Monday night. Sure, the push has been a little too fast. They should've worked more monster heel like situations for him, but then they might've shown too much of Sheamus. With the swift push, he's mysterious. He rose from obscurity on ECW, came to RAW, tore shit up, and now, he's the WWE Champion. He came and he shook things up. Just what bland ole' RAW needed. I was really growing tired of seeing the belt on Cena. The whole Cena/Orton feud is getting stale IMO, and I'm glad to see they are giving huge pushes to both Kofi and Sheamus. We now have an interesting Road to Wrestlemania on our hands.

 

[Wainy]

It's thge same old shit with you's isn't it? You's whine & complain about Cena being champ', & how you'd love to see someone new in the title picture, so WWE do both, & your not happy. The fact is, just because Sheamus hasn't been in WWE for long, doesn't mean he hasn't paid his dues. I for one am glad to see a wrestler who has worked all over the world (like the good old days) come in & do well. As for saying that he doesn't deserve it because of his nickname is fucking ridiculous, your just another little wwe mark who doesn't care about match quality or wrestling ability, just entrances & interviews & story lines. Go & watch a fucking soap opera! The fact is, his roots are Celtic, so at least he "lives his gimmick", & he's got the warrior look. He's proud of it too, you don't see him coming out with the wrong flag (Finlay needs to address this asap, people have died for it in the past) I hope he gets a good run, & if he does lose it, lets see him lose it no sooner than about 6 months away, & to another up & comer, there's plenty of them around, let WWE put HHH, HBK, Taker, Batista etc "out to stud". At least this way, Cena can get some new feuds going with people who can't be in a world title feud. Oh, & Miko, the Irish don't pronounce shit as shite, it's a different word. The pronounce shite is "Shoit" Do your feckin' research! (& then maybe you might learn what I mean about the flags!!!)

 

[realblackhart]

stussyman311 is right, somehow they will say that Cena was not put through it and he will retain and Cena will fight Sheamus on Raw. But a couple things, the tribute to the troops is pretaped and Cena walks out with the title, so I could also see Cena getit back. I don't know if this was said already but I think it was an intentional accidentby WWE. I think they intentionally had Cena accidentally fall through the table and have the title temporarily change hands to see the response they get from the WWE universe. It's a ploy to see if the fans would embrace a new champion, this makes him a bigger heel too. If this is what happened, it's a good idea, otherwize Sheamus isn't ready at all for a WWE title; Id like to see a reverse decision because I can not stomach Cena being champion for the millionth time. I agree with putting the title on a fresh guy. The WWF/E was never about making their world champion hold the title 20 times. Bret and Hogan didn't do that yet they are great champions. WWE is using the WCW idea of holding the title multiple times ala Ric Flair. But in the end Shemus is the wrong guy to put it on, where the heck do you go from here when you loose the title? It's hard to go down the ladder once you've been on top even though it's been done with guys like JBL and Jericho but when we look back, guys like the Undertaker, Rock, Austin, Bret, Shawn, Hogan didn't win mid card gold after holding World Title gold. That's another thing, let them work their way up and them keep themup there. I like what they are doing with Kofi but I feel the WWE has been in a desperate sittuation not having anybody to give their title to that they are rushing guys and are forced to have the title change hands a ridiculous amount of times. I think that wasn't the case in the 90s and the begining of this century. I don't see why you can't have a guy, A DIFFERENT guy other than HHH, Cena to hold the title for a long time, like over a year or even more. Too many title changes diminishes the value, if you want to build up young guys put it on someone credible. Once again Macintire as IC champ, a little too quick for me. The Miz as US champ perfect timing.

 

[oogieboogie]

I agree with the people who said this is CRAP!

It is unfair to all those who have been with the company for years and haven't been given that chance. Here is a guy who has been with the company for a few months? Has had what 2 or 3 matches? All of a sudden wins the title, what the deuce???

To be honest i don't watch any wwe shows anymore. Well maybe a few mins here and there if after reading what happens i am interested. Though i do enjoy watching Vintage Collection.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I agree with the people who said this is CRAP!

It is unfair to all those who have been with the company for years and haven't been given that chance. Here is a guy who has been with the company for a few months? Has had what 2 or 3 matches? All of a sudden wins the title, what the deuce???

To be honest i don't watch any wwe shows anymore. Well maybe a few mins here and there if after reading what happens i am interested. Though i do enjoy watching Vintage Collection.

So I guess we should start giving Finlay, Matt Hardy, and Funaki title opportunities because they've been with the company for years. Sheamus isn't going to be champion for long and this will be a test run for him and I don't want it to be a one-day thing like Kane.

 

[KKarvox]

One, thank God we have a new Champion! I love Sheamus personally, and seeing WWE take a risk like this putting the strap on someone this new, is damn refreshing. Plus, Sheamus, because he is so new, is getting MASSIVE heat because everyone's pissed that he is champ instead of whatever rookie you want to be champ instead. I think we need to look at this in hindsight, a few months down the road i bet alot of people are going to be kicking themselves for doubting Sheamus. If it doesn't pan out, then they just take the strap, drop him to the mid-card, and done. 2. Cena may not get the title back till the Rumble or EC, and they may just acknowledge that Tribute to the Troops is pretaped to expain Cena having the title there, or not air that match. and 3. Does anyone think this may be planting the seeds of a Cena Heel turn. I'm not sure if they were booing Sheamus or Cena after the match, but the fans weren't happy, and Cena looked pretty pissed post match. I don't think they should turn Cena heel, because of the lack of Main Event Faces right now, and the fact that he is the face of WWE right now, but that's my observation.

 

[The Doctor]

Fantastic. I was marking out when I read the people explode in the LD. I'm sold on Sheamus now, and what I'm most happy about is the fact that barely anyone expected this to happen. Every match last night was unpredictable and solid, if not extremely good. I am so excited to see what goes on at RAW tonight.

As KB said, "Look how quickly WWE's become awesome again".

 

[1C3-M4N]

Although it's true Sheamus winning the belt was kind of sudden for the amount of time he's been in WWE. I do enjoy the fact that he's been billed recently as undefeated. It seems like the right time for WWE to have an undefeated heal as champion who's new to the title picture because they can have him face up against some of the greats that are in the company. This is a great way for Sheamus to start his career, and I hope he holds the title for a while, and loses to someone else rather then Cena. With Sheamus as champion it could also give other new superstars that are face characters a chance to move up the ranks to fight Sheamus like Kofi(which a lot have mentioned).