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My thoughts on Sheamus winning the WWE Title are as follows:

What the fuck was the WWE thinking?

Simply put, I think that this is a very bad idea. We come in here quite often and we say, "You can't build up someone too fast." That excuse is the one that we use to defend why Morrison isn't in the title picture on SD! and we also use it to defend why Kofi Kingston or the Miz haven't had a title shot yet. So, simply put, I think that this is too much for Sheamus too fast.

Also, I feel that this is going to hurt the WWE for the next month or so or for as long as he remains champ. Let's be honest, last night was his first REAL one on one match up that was actually more than a few minutes long. So, to a lot of fans, he isn't proven. Also, his mic skills leave something to be desired. I don't know if it's his accent or what it is, but I can't stand to listen to him and I don't think that I'm the only one that feels like that.

I think that this might end badly for the WWE. But, on a positive note, at least someone new got the rub and is in the title picture, however, I still feel like it is too soon.
 
All i've got to say about this is that Sheamus got a big mountain to climb now. Will he put on a really good match against Cena, he won in the worst way possible, by chance.

If you actually watch the PPV last night, you could clearly see that Sheamus didn'T push Cena into the table, Cena fell and went through the table without Sheamus even touching him, so now, he not only the guy that hasn't proven anything since joining Raw, He the guy that hasn't proven anything since joining Raw and got a fluke victory over John Cena. That's going to help him get over with the fans.

Sheamus could have been a main event player if they gave him the time to develop his persona and given him a couple of big feud, now unless they are able to fix the mess they made last night, he going to be just another footnote in the history of the WWE and after he lose the WWE Championship he's probably going to get the same treatment that JAck Swagger and everybody else that got a big push to early, he's going to lose all the momemtum he had andbe stuck wrestling on WWE Superstar or even worst losing to Hornswoogle.
 
he didn't get a fucking inch of heat out of that crowd when he won.

I kinda wonder if they were anything like me. Stunned. I mean, who actually expected the man to win the title? The children were probably so shocked, they didn't yell much.

In fact, the exact opposite happened, alot of the crowd in fact began to cheer loudly when he won.

Probably a bunch of older men yelling in the croud. You and I both know the children and women love John Cena, while more often than not the men loathe, and boo the guy to hell and back.

After those initial cheers everyone just stood there, stone silent while Sheamus celebrated, no heat whatsoever.

Once again, shocked. Utterly shocked.

Sheamus still can't get over even after winning a world title from the biggest face in the company. That speaks for this decision by itself.

I could be putting too much faith on the shock factor, but I really think tonight will show us more. The croud was more likely than not simply shocked he actually won it.

Looks like we may have a NEW Kliq boys and girls! Triple H, HBK, Sheamus and Drew McIntyre. Funny how every one of them won a title last night...

That would be awesome. I hope it comes out into the show. We have heel DX, with Sheamus, and McIntyre. That would be epic. I'd mark.
 
To be honest, I have no idea how this happened. The way it happened was just streaming with controversy. I mean, the way Cena fell through the table, plus Sheamus' reaction have me thinking that what happened wasn't supposed to happen the way it did.

Was this a good idea? I think so. Because it's the shock value. No one lost any momentum as I've said in numerous other posts. Cena's still Cena, and Sheamus can be taken seriously. If we over analyze what happened, we're defeating the purpose of the entire match. Cena was supposed to lose. But the way he did is questionable. I see there being a rematch tonight on Raw and Cena winning the belt back, undoing everything that happened.

I'm just curious to see what happens from here. It's a genuinely shocking situation, and to be honest, this could be interesting.

Also, the 'Kliq' thing is an interesting point, too. Drew and Sheamus all trained with HHH and HBK. Weird huh?
 
Just seems fucking stupid to me. Do you know where Sheamus was just a few months ago? Feuding with Goldust on ECW. He was decent, but if you told me that he would've won the WWE Title before the end of the year I would've laughed in your face.

Fast forward to a few months later, and he's the champ, but what has he done? Squashed Jamie Noble and won a battle royal. Not exactly what I'd call a very accomplished champ. I don't really buy him as championship material at all. Sure, he's Irish, but other than that, he's just another boring, bland, big guy. I don't know what the point of giving him the title was either as he'll likely lose it rather quickly. I suppose it's just so he can reach Kane status of being identified as a former champ.

I get that a lot of people really like this because it's a change, but should you simply praise something different, even if it sucks? A lot of people support this move, but I don't think many of those people even like Sheamus as a wrestler, they'd just latch on the anything different.

Obviously, there was a lot of politicing inolved in this, which I guess is just a fact the wrestling world. There is no way Sheamus wins the title if he isn't tight with HHH, at least no this early.

I just really don't like this move at all and it definetly isn't going to do WWE any favors as far as ratings, at least I don't think it is. Also, I doubt the finish was a botch.
 
Everybody stop complaining. We all asked for new competition in the title hunt and we got it. We may not got who we wanted but at least it is someone new. I said this before, if Sheamus wins the title he will be the biggest badass in WWE history.

Dont mark me off because im defending him, but let me say this. The WWE wouldnt just give their most prestigous title to nobody. This guy has potential and talent. He did something to prove he is worthy of the title.

And stop saying because he is Irish(just bringing this up because I say a thread on this) and because hes buddy buddy with HHH.
 
Because the title never recovered from Brock Lesnar winning it so quickly. Oh, what's that you say? Brock Lesnar was different because it was what YOU wanted to see? Well, so sorry, but your theory about the belt being denigrated is weak. The belt will be just fine.



Not like Miz and Cena feuded in the beginning of the Summer. And you know, it's not like Cena pretty much buried The Miz during that angle. So you'd rather have a guy take on the champ who already showed this year that he wasn't ready to hang with Cena. Great eye for booking there, buddy.

Well... I don't know why you took our ideas that way. Actually, i 've never talked about Lesnar. But you're right. He won the title pretty fast. Now, tell me, despite Lesnar and some others... do you think that winning the WWE Title so fast helps in gaining credibility? I don´t think so... What can I say... Has Sheamus defeated all the main eventers in singles match to become the number one contender? There is no more hierarchy I see... I believe that wrestlers should desire the US and IC titles first, like something big, and show that they value tha gold. And then.. the final step.. Heavyweight Championship. The way Jeff Hardy, or Dreamer, Cena, RVD, etc, etc won their big titles deserved respect.
And about The Miz... I don't think that Sheamus proved to be more prepared than the Miz to feud with Cena, just my point of view.

DirtyJose, I'll respect all of your opinions, just do the same please. In the end, we all want a better RAW, don't we?
 
I don't agree with everyone, but I can understand most every point of view on this. The one thing I can't really swallow is when fingers point towards Triple H (about this, anyway).

Even if Triple H was singing Sheamus' name every day for 3 years in praise, the be all end all authority on who wears that damn belt is McMahon. So instead of saying "...because he's Triple H's buddy", say "...because McMahon is fucking nuts". Thanks.
 
Everybody stop complaining. We all asked for new competition in the title hunt and we got it. We may not got who we wanted but at least it is someone new.

This is the same stupid logic that everyone is using. A lot of people don't even like the guy, but are willing to accept it just because he's different.

I said this before, if Sheamus wins the title he will be the biggest badass in WWE history.

I really, really doubt it. I think biggest goofball would be more appropriate.

Dont mark me off because im defending him, but let me say this. The WWE wouldnt just give their most prestigous title to nobody. This guy has potential and talent. He did something to prove he is worthy of the title.

What would that be exactly? Have average matches with Goldust? Squash Santino? Talking with an accent?

And stop saying because he is Irish(just bringing this up because I say a thread on this) and because hes buddy buddy with HHH.

I think those should be brought up considering they are important factors in his title win.
 
Whether we like Sheamus or not, it's clear that he wont be on top for long. Considering Cena is now an unstoppable force, that will eventually become champion within a month or two. It looks like WWE doesn't take him serious either. He cut a promo last night that lasted about a mere 30 seconds. It's like WWE telling us don't worry fans, whether you like this guy or not, he won't be champion that much longer.

Which is ridiculous since they are pulling the plug on Sheamus before he gets a chance to shine.
 
It looks like WWE doesn't take him serious either. He cut a promo last night that lasted about a mere 30 seconds. It's like WWE telling us don't worry fans, whether you like this guy or not, he won't be champion that much longer.

I'm worried about that too, however I even though it was the night after the big win and should have been a Sheamus night, I recognize that it was the Slammies, and there is no way they could work Sheamus as the biggest star of the year or something similar like that. If they give him the same weak pay off next week, we might be in for trouble. Either way, his last night to really shine is the 1/4 broadcast where Cena won't be there. If Sheamus is not featured that night, expect Cena with a chance of Superman treatment.
 
I've got no problem with new talent getting the title - that's great. But I've got a problem in the way that he won it... at least if he had beaten anyone with an ounce of credibility it'd give his win some legitimacy.
 
Hopefully this week wasn't an indication of what his whole reign will be cause its pretty bad when the world champ on the flagship brand is an afterthought. They need to let him get some credible wins before he faces Cena again. If HHH is such good friends with him then he should put him over. A clean win over HHH would make Sheamus look legit as hell.

He has a nice moveset thats believable for the main event and he's pretty good on the mic. I can tolerate him more than robot Orton. I just hope they don't bury the guy cause WWE needs a new star and they haven't even given him a fair chance to shine.
 
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Ahhh, this thread is great. :) Poor John Cena can't catch a break. He wins and people go crazy with hatred. He loses....and people go crazy with hatred. It's amazing.

With that being said, this thread is about Sheamus and personally I think the dude is awesome. At TLC when Cena crashed through that table, I marked out. Not because I hate Cena, but because I completely dig Sheamus. He is everything that usually bores me in wrestling- ya know, the power type guys that pound their chest and yell. Sheamus has all that, but there is something different about this guy that makes me want to watch him.

I love the fact that the WWE put the belt on him. He's a fresh face who brings something new and exciting to the table. I'm actually quite shocked at the amount of people on here who are hating on the idea. The WWE has been grooming this guy to be a main eventer since his debut. Every segment he's been involved in thus far has been to lead him to this point.
 
Basically i think it all comes down to money. Both Sheamus and Drew McIntyre won at TLC, they're both from the British Isles where the WWE is trying to lay some foundations for having an offshoot brand in UK/Europe. Its happening with the NFL and NBA and WWE are building up to do the same.

As for Sheamus's win, I think its good and has shook it up a bit, i feel he will hang on to the title for 2/3months (maybe even up to a wrestlemania loss), but i do mean HANG on to, there will be matches where he should lose but somehow just sneak the win. Oh and watch out for his face turn later this year.
 
I'll make this clear from the start, I liked Sheamus years ago when he was S.O.S in IWW, I liked him when he debuted in WWE , But dethroning Cena from his WWE Title? I'm just about ready to bow to the Celtic Warrior.

Although my second name being O'Connell it might just be because I also have Irish blood...

Anyway moving on, I believe Sheamus is now our WWE champion for 5 reasons:

1) Yeah, he's friends with Triple H.
2) He's something different.
3) He was in the right place at the right time.
4) WWE title runs make fans take guys far more seriously.

and finally:

5) Sheamus is good.


1) Now yes there have been reports that Triple H and Sheamus are work out buddies, bumchums, galpals or maybe just crossed dongs in the locker-room one time....Whatever they are, I dont think that being friends with Paul Levesque is neccesarily as big a deal toward some Sheamus' title success as some people are making out. Does anybody really think Triple H could be friends with just anyone and Vince would seriously consider them to not only wear what is essentially VKM's title, but beat his pet project John Cena to attain it? I mean come on. You think Trips could walk into Vince's office with Santino and say "here's your new WWE Champ, boss" and not be laughed out of the office? Triple H's influence may have helped Sheamus to a degree, but in the end, Vince makes or breaks a WWE superstars title hopes. And to allow Cena to be beaten for his WWE title...Vince must have liked what he saw, and for good reason. Now it might just be me but between them, Vince and Trips have had just a little bit of an eye for talent : Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, Batista, Randy Orton, John Cena etc. These guys have all been huge successes and that's because they passed Vince's tests and he gave them the chance to shine. There may be other guys who have deserved it as well but that doesn't change the fact that Vince knows talent when he sees it.

2) Sheamus is different. The accent, the transparent skin, the fiery handlebar emblazoned across his face, hell even his style and finishing move (Even if it is recycled) are all different to what else is available in WWE today. People, whether they like them or not, pay more attention to something unique , something outside the mould. Look at my fellow Scotsman Drew McIntyre, great wrestler in his own right (I've seen him wrestle in the UK) but damnit Drew is pretty damn close to almost every other generic midcarder that goes through the WWE. Pretty muscly, tanned, robotic, just look at the reaction he gets. If you where to swap Drew Mcintyre and Zack Ryders outfits, most fans wouldn't be any the wiser. Which translates into zero reaction from the crowd. To be a success, you have to stand out from the crowd, just like Sheamus does.


3) WWE listened to the cries for new blood in the main event picture and they responded. They wanted a new champion to try out before WM season when the big stars need the big belts, and Sheamus was the man for the job. On short notice, who else could WWE have beat Cena and become WWE champion? John Cena has been a squashing menace to the entire WWE roster, almost every midcarder heel has been squashed by Cena. None of them have any credibility whatsoever, hell its pretty much the opposite. Lets name a few 1) The Miz : humiliated by Cena just a few months ago. 2) Carlito : A punchline these days and one with no almost no TV time for months. 3) Jack Swagger : No TV for weeks, done nothing since he lost the ECW title....The list could go on. Then you have the Celtic Warrior. Fresh off retiring a ring veteran, a fresh , unique monster. Perfect to test the waters with by toppling Cena, he ticked all the boxes and took the WWE title as a result.


4) Fans take guys who have won the WWE title seriously as a general rule, maybe not the general IWC , but to the casual fan, hearing them say Sheamus is the current or former WWE champion takes his credibility a long way.

5) Having watched Sheamus as S.O.S in IWW for a while, I know Sheamus is good. Excellent matches, great promos, fantastic character development. He hasn't had enough time to show that in WWE yet but I have no doubt that with the right booking Sheamus will be a success. I expect Cena to take his title back soon but Sheamus will be WWE champion again within the next year. People may forget transitional champions, but they won't forget the Celtic warrior.
 
I’m kinda torn. I mean, I like Sheamus. But, I wish he would have gotten the title after improving and being built up more. I know some want to try and compare Lesnar and Sheamus. That’s crazy. Lesnar was pwning everybody from Booker T, to RVD, to Hogan. Hell, even pwned Taker on the episode of RAW before Vengeance 2002. He also won King of the Ring. He was pretty over with the crowd. And he was damn talented in the ring. Sheamus does what? Beats up a couple of jobbers? Runs away from and loses to Goldust? He still needs improvement in the ring. IMO, Sheamus doesn’t need the title right now. He hasn’t done anything to warrant the WWE title. I know some want to say “well yall wanted somebody new as the champ. And now that you have it yall still complain.” Well to those people, I say chill out. I’m all for new blood getting the gold, but damn…atleast have it make sense. Atleast build the person up more. Atleast have the person look like they are WWE championship material. I’m willing to give him a chance but I don’t want his reign to be shitty.

Now I want to talk about something else. Something that’s been annoying me ever since Sheamus won the WWE title. I want to talk about wrestling and deserving your spot. Now, I’ve seen where many in the IWC will say that somebody like Michelle McCool or Cena for that matter do not deserve their spots. You have people who say that McCool is only champ b/c of Taker. Hell, better than that…you have people who have the nerve to say that she’s only employed b/c of Taker, which is a complete joke. A guy like Taker, who’s respected by his peers in the business, a guy who does what’s best for the business, a guy who you never hear anything negative about, a guy who’s praised by damn near everybody in their shoot interviews. Taker didn’t play the political game when it involved Sara. Taker did what was best for the WWE not what was best for him and Sara. But people insist that McCool is only champ b/c of Taker. Even though McCool is over with the crowd and is actually talented. She’s actually done something in WWE. But the IWC continues to say that she doesn’t deserve her spot. But Sheamus comes in, doesn’t really do anything, isn’t over with the crowd, and could still improve in the ring, and the IWC says that HE deserves his spot? That’s ridiculous.

You have a guy like Cena, who’s over, makes WWE money, pretty awesome on the mic, has pretty awesome matches at times, puts people over…but you still have members of the IWC who say that he doesn’t deserve his spot. But once again, Sheamus gets the gold without doing anything except being friends with HHH. And people have the audacity to say that he deserves his spot? And true none of us are back there with HHH. But we’ve all read the backstage reports, we’ve all watched the shoot interviews with people who’ve worked with HHH…all have basically said that HHH does play the political game, he does use his wife's last name to his advantage, he can get into Vince's ear. Everybody can’t be wrong about the dude, just like everybody wasn’t wrong about Hogan when it came to him playing the political game. Like I said, I’m a Sheamus fan. But I’m not stupid. I know that he didn’t get there on talent alone, when the dude still needs improvement in the ring, needs improvement on the mic, and is not connecting with the crowd.

I just think that this is a slap in the face of people like McCool and Cena who get a lot of shit from the IWC, on how they don’t deserve to be where they’re at…especially McCool. But Sheamus gets the gold without being over…needs improvement in the ring…needs improvement on the mic, among other things and people say he deserves it? I mean come on.

Now do I think Sheamus will eventually improve? Yeah, I do. I'm a fan of him and I believe that he will improve more. But I just don't think he deserves to be the champ right now.
 
I'm all for change, and change is what Sheamus has brought to the WWE. Let me say this, I don't care if it's bad for business, I don't care if Sheamus didn't deserve it, I don't care if he's not deemed worthy as a champion. What I do care about is that for so long we have seen H vs O vs C. And I was getting pissed off. And the FINALLY decide to do something new.

Besides Sheamus isn't a long term champion. So why get upset. He's a breath of fresh air provided to us by perhaps some lobbying by unknown powers, but who the hell cares. So please stop your bitching and enjoy your brand NEW WWE Champion.
 
I hate to do this, because I like Sheamus (hate the way he's been used since winning the belt, however), but does anyone else think that the ending to his match vs. John Cena at TLC was botched?

It looked like that Cena was supposed to go through the table IN the ring and Sheamus would go through the table setup outside the ring, right infront of the announce table. If you happen to have the PPV recorded or can watch it somewhere, check out the ending.

If you recall, the ending came with both men being on the turnbuckle in the far, right corner. Cena had his back towards the ring (with the table setup towards the center of the ring) and Sheamus had his back towards the audience (with a table set up to his left, outside the ring). When Cena leaped off/got pushed back towards the table inside the ring, Sheamus fell to the outside towards the table setup to his left. When a replay showed Sheamus laying outside, he seemed to be right next to the table.

Now, I maybe reading too much into that, but if both men go through a table after the same act, the match would've been declared a draw and a draw would've made a lot more sense considering how Sheamus has barely been used these last 2 weeks (probably because the writers have no idea where to take the storyline between him and Cena now).

If Cena ends up beating Sheamus on Raw this upcoming Monday, then I will believe this theory of mine even more so. That's because Cena winning back his belt will be "righting the wrong" that took place at TLC.

My friends and I even speculated about Cena being "screwed" as Sheamus is HHH's workout partner and HHH (with Stephanie McMahon's help) may have tweaked a few things (without Cena knowing) to help his buddy win the belt. That maybe far-fetched, but who knows.

Also, on a side note, Sheamus needs to stop smiling so much and go back to being pissed off. He looks like a massively over-grown 11 year old w/ pale skin and a cool beard when he smiles.
 
Sheamus has shown quite a lot of potential and he is quite a good championship option. There's very little negative about him, he's kind of a jack of all trades kind of wrestler. The thing is he's been pushed quickly, but he's the embodiment of change. He looks and sounds different to anybody else who has been in the title picture, and that is the principle reason why he is an ideal candidate to freshen up the scene.

Sheamus is a heel, he doesn't need to have a huge crowd backing. If he ultimately overcomes Cena, then his crowd perception will be improved. My only gripe is that they have made this bold move but haven't given him as much free reign as perhaps they should. By that I mean, I like Sheamus for the title, but it'd be better if he was given a bit more screen time. Increasing it in incriments would be the best move in my eyes.
 
I still think he has been pushed WAY too quickly. It feels as if they skipped a step in his development towards becoming champion.

Developmental.... Same as anyone else
ECW.... ok, makes sense.
Random feuds at ECW.... still makes sense.
Drafted to Raw.... a bit early, but ok cool.
Random feuds on Raw.... good, building him up some.
WWE Champion.... whoa, WHAT?

See what I mean? They skipped something. He didn't do enough to be built up to look like a legit threat to Cena's title.

I struggle to buy into him being the WWE Champion when all he has done is beat up jobbers then beat Cena in a fluke, then retain in a DQ. I'm aware that he's a heel and I'm not supposed to like him for that reason.... but he got the fastest push in WWE history and I have yet to see why he earned that. I'll continue to give him a chance as champion, but I hope he does something impressive soon because I don't agree with him getting pushed so quickly, it makes no sense.
 
I have liked the idea of Sheamus as champion since its inception. Why? Because the WWE Title scene on RAW was beyond stale and repetitive. I am not concerned with how fast he has been pushed, it makes no difference to me. The depth of his character is no different than the depth of a character like John Morrison who has been there much longer. You could have went with anyone in that same category of wrestlers and produced the same results. A mid card title run doesn’t have the same value as it did when guys like Randy Savage, The Ultimate Warrior, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and others had a mid card title. You don’t need that to propel you into the main event.

What is missing from Sheamus is that eye popping promo and/or an “Oh Shit!” moment. He has not brought that to the table which is why I’m on the fence with the Sheamus character right now. But the idea of having a new guy run with the title I’m all for. Here’s to hoping he carries the title all the way to Wrestlemania, as his feud with Cena is hopefully over.
 
OK change is good. The only thing Sheamus is doing is making the title scene much more interesting. A better replacement would be Swagger. He won the title of a fluke victory. But how did he really won it? By being good friends with HHH. Sheamus must have saved HHH life for him to get the WWE title that fast.

Sure maybe Sheamus didn't need a mid card title. A guy like Lesnar or Yokozuna didn't need it either. But what was different about them? They were dominating, they defeated former champions, Yokozuna won the royal rumble. Yokozuna & Lesnar looked like a threat. Sheamus doesn't, only thing sheamus does is a big boot & razor's edge. That is not dominating anything. I can now see why Bret Hart calls HHH & HBK cancers of wrestling.

I guess if guys like Morrison, MVP, Finley, Benjamin, Christian, etc. Want to be a main eventer or champion. They need to have work on developing a friendship with HHH.
 
Come on people, it's funny as a group we all get sick and tired of seeing the same people hold the title, we bitch and moan about it, complain, cry and even threaten to stop watching WWE because the same people (Orton, Cena, HHH, Punk, Taker, Edge, etc..) hold it all the time. So the WWE decides to apparently listen to us and give the title to someone who already has not held it multiple times and what do we do as a majority? We piss and moan about it. WTF? And you wonder Vince really has no idea as to what to do anymore, because no matter what he does we aren't happy.

I like Sheamus as champ, I do. I used to be all for the earning the title the long hard way, but with Sheamus as champ, I'm chaning my tune a bit. It was surprising and shocking to say the least, no one truly expected it. It's fresh, it livens up the main event scene which we complained about being stale. So really what's so wrong with his title reign? He's damn good in the ring, not bad on the mic, is marketable and is young, so he'll be around for a while. Plus to me on Raw last week, he was getting quite a few cheers, so the fans in attendance like him, so he and the WWE must be doing something right. More power to Sheamus I say good for him, though he'll likely lost it at the 1/4/10 Raw or next PPV.
 
OK, so I may be out in left field here, but bear with me please, before throwing things.

I've not been following WWE for a few years now, just kind of drifted back. So I've missed some things. (Cena was some annoying white-boy rapper last I looked, which seemed like a gimmick built to fail if ever there was one.)

Sheamus looks different, sounds different, is basically interesting enough to have caught my notice. Now, I had no preconceptions about Cena winning TLC because I hadn't actually followed WWE through his apparent superman reign, so I didn't know that was how it was supposed to go. Indeed, they pretty heavily foreshadowed Sheamus winning, in my eyes, with their repeated reminders that you don't have to beat the champ in this sort of match, just table him.

Which he did, and in suspicious, sloppy style, no less. Then the monster heel goes on to win the rematch in decidedly bitchy style, copping out with the ref push etc.

This is, I think, how his heel reign is going to keep going. Squashes over lesser names, close shaves and narrow escapes over more established stars.

Why?

So that eventually, he can turn face, and have another run doing it the "right" way. I think the sleazy, unsatisfying way he got this title run is not an accident, I think it's to keep it a pure heel run that he can eventually distance himself from when he turns, and tells the crowd that "this toime he's doin' it roight!"

Of course, I could be wrong. But I think it would be pretty cool if I wasn't.
 
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