Sam's Thread of Chattin' w/ Jake & Other Robust Subjects
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Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Im really gonna need this broken down for me.
My initial reaction about 85% through the movie is that it gets away with things that other films would get shit on because its ambitious.
Things like lacking character and plot development, not being able to play within its own rules, and general ridiculousness (though im ok with letting that last one go)
It felt like a movie that had another 40 minutes to it that got cut out.
Still decent fun though.
Character and plot development are two things which I think it did very well - with minimal dialogue, which is maybe why it went unnoticed. I'll go into more detail later but I'm at work, my jim jams are on and I'm gonna have a power nap.
As for not obeying its own rules, could you give me one or two examples?
As for not obeying its own rules, could you give me one or two examples?
Mighty NorCal
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"Remember me??!" *rips face thingy off main bad guy*
No, I do not, and I wish I knew what the fuck that meant.
So wait was she his sister? and the guy with the fat feet was his brother? and they had their own camp city thing? What?
No prologue, no nothing, just "hey doesn't this suck, skull waterfall, lots of pale kids" Not to mention the entire plot is basically "remember what the t rex chase scene in Jurassic park felt like? Well its sorta like that, but for two hours"
As for obeying its own rules, im mostly getting at that the entire film consists of people fighting on top of/on the side of vehicles moving at high speeds, but inertia only seems to exist when its useful in making a transition or a dramatic part of a scene. It either exists or it doesn't, not just when its convienent.
If you have ever seen Uncensored 1995, you know just about all of those scenes are fucking impossible.... Which is fine, unless you then use the factor that makes them impossible to make bad guys fall down at convienent times.
No, I do not, and I wish I knew what the fuck that meant.
So wait was she his sister? and the guy with the fat feet was his brother? and they had their own camp city thing? What?
No prologue, no nothing, just "hey doesn't this suck, skull waterfall, lots of pale kids" Not to mention the entire plot is basically "remember what the t rex chase scene in Jurassic park felt like? Well its sorta like that, but for two hours"
As for obeying its own rules, im mostly getting at that the entire film consists of people fighting on top of/on the side of vehicles moving at high speeds, but inertia only seems to exist when its useful in making a transition or a dramatic part of a scene. It either exists or it doesn't, not just when its convienent.
If you have ever seen Uncensored 1995, you know just about all of those scenes are fucking impossible.... Which is fine, unless you then use the factor that makes them impossible to make bad guys fall down at convienent times.
It's hot as fuck and I've had far too much orange juice. Like, a carton and a half's worth. I think I'm going to vomit. Just for context.
To answer your specific points:
Furiosa was Immortan Joe's Imperator - i.e. general, captain, or officer of some description - so they obviously had a pre-existing relationship. I thought it was an odd choice of badass one-liner but I didn't think it implied anything beyond that. Immortan Joe is a piece of shit and Furiosa's been his reluctant lacky up until that very day.
One of the best things about the movie was how concise it was - it established things as it went along and expected the audience to keep up, which I don't think was an unreasonable expectatio, considering how simple the set-up is and how heavily stylised everything is, which leads me onto your point about the plot:
The plot wasn't the chase; the chase was the vehicle for the plot to unfold. Everything was communicated through action. I don't know why you brought up Jurassic Park; lots of films have chases. The Road Warrior predates Jurassic Park by over a decade and has an awesome, long chase at the end.
As for character development, each of the main characters ended the film in a completely different place to where they started it:
There's reluctant heroes and then there's Max; who's a loner whose only motivation is survival; who gets captured, tied to the front of a car and gets his blood stolen from him; who tries to leave Furiosa and the brides for dead (and tries to shoot Nux's arm off); who allies with Furiosa out of necessity, essentially holding them hostage; who becomes more and more protective as the movie goes on; who gets to the point that, in a moment of desperation, risks himself being left behind to save the others; who becomes, more or less, bros with Furiosa; who willing gives his blood to save Furiosa; who disappears into the crowd to carry on his wandering.
There's Furiosa's road to redemption, her betrayal of Immortan Joe, her grudging co-operation with Max, her alliance with Max, her despair, her fall, and her ultimate rise to glory.
Nux has probably the most obvious arc, being the most talkative character, and going from a jobber heel to a midcard babyface and ultimately getting the awesome suicide he always wanted, just in a different way.
Oh, and there's the Citadel, which produces food and water, ruled by Immortan Joe, and the Bullet Farm and Gas Town, and you can probably gues what they do, which are both ruled over by Immortan Joe's inbred cousins (because they're all pricks).
I've got to go grill a chicken on the pavement or something.
To answer your specific points:
Furiosa was Immortan Joe's Imperator - i.e. general, captain, or officer of some description - so they obviously had a pre-existing relationship. I thought it was an odd choice of badass one-liner but I didn't think it implied anything beyond that. Immortan Joe is a piece of shit and Furiosa's been his reluctant lacky up until that very day.
One of the best things about the movie was how concise it was - it established things as it went along and expected the audience to keep up, which I don't think was an unreasonable expectatio, considering how simple the set-up is and how heavily stylised everything is, which leads me onto your point about the plot:
The plot wasn't the chase; the chase was the vehicle for the plot to unfold. Everything was communicated through action. I don't know why you brought up Jurassic Park; lots of films have chases. The Road Warrior predates Jurassic Park by over a decade and has an awesome, long chase at the end.
As for character development, each of the main characters ended the film in a completely different place to where they started it:
There's reluctant heroes and then there's Max; who's a loner whose only motivation is survival; who gets captured, tied to the front of a car and gets his blood stolen from him; who tries to leave Furiosa and the brides for dead (and tries to shoot Nux's arm off); who allies with Furiosa out of necessity, essentially holding them hostage; who becomes more and more protective as the movie goes on; who gets to the point that, in a moment of desperation, risks himself being left behind to save the others; who becomes, more or less, bros with Furiosa; who willing gives his blood to save Furiosa; who disappears into the crowd to carry on his wandering.
There's Furiosa's road to redemption, her betrayal of Immortan Joe, her grudging co-operation with Max, her alliance with Max, her despair, her fall, and her ultimate rise to glory.
Nux has probably the most obvious arc, being the most talkative character, and going from a jobber heel to a midcard babyface and ultimately getting the awesome suicide he always wanted, just in a different way.
Oh, and there's the Citadel, which produces food and water, ruled by Immortan Joe, and the Bullet Farm and Gas Town, and you can probably gues what they do, which are both ruled over by Immortan Joe's inbred cousins (because they're all pricks).
I've got to go grill a chicken on the pavement or something.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
After reading the synopsis, I must ask....
on a scale of 1 to .200 BAC during a math test, how confused were you by all the time travel/multi-verse/butterfly effect shit?
Sounds like the hottest of hot messes.
I'm in Cyprus. I'd think Terminator were "so bad it's good" - and therefore worth seeing - but then I realise there's no such thing.
The lady wants to see Inside Out, as do I, but there's one problem: she talks during films. Fine at home, obviously, but I can't be dealing with it at the cinema. Suggestions welcome.
The lady wants to see Inside Out, as do I, but there's one problem: she talks during films. Fine at home, obviously, but I can't be dealing with it at the cinema. Suggestions welcome.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
End it.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Ted 2 sucked. This is coming from someone who overrated the first one.
Mighty NorCal
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Reviews say Ant Man is really good.
Still, zero chance. Not even for free, at the house.
Still, zero chance. Not even for free, at the house.
Why so anti-Ant Man?
Mighty NorCal
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I don't care enough to be called "anti" anything.
That's the deal. Overwelming indifference. I surely have better things to do. Ill get the gist of the character in Infinity Wars, et all.
That's the deal. Overwelming indifference. I surely have better things to do. Ill get the gist of the character in Infinity Wars, et all.
I think it looks amusing, could think of worse ways to spend $15.
Sam, if I remember correctly you have played MGS5, Ground Zeroes. I just started playing it and therefore also just finished playing it. Weird that they'd make a game so short, but potentially a cool concept for episodic gaming moving forward.
Sam, if I remember correctly you have played MGS5, Ground Zeroes. I just started playing it and therefore also just finished playing it. Weird that they'd make a game so short, but potentially a cool concept for episodic gaming moving forward.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Do we have any physical proof that Jurassic World wasn't written by a 13 year-old ?
While I enjoy Dinosaurs, it's possible that was the most nonsensical script ive ever seen.
While I enjoy Dinosaurs, it's possible that was the most nonsensical script ive ever seen.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Are you talking about Pain and Gain or whatever the Mark Wahlberg/Rock movie was called? If not, well he has a cameo in that too. He's the guy Rock hit in the face with a weight in the prison yard.
I know that post was like 6 months old but I just watched It Follows and was curious if you had any in-depth commentary on it.
You mean that movie I wasted time watching that was essentially about an STD ghost? I thought it was crap & not nearly as awesome as many make it out to be. Music and atmosphere get a plus in my book- story and scare factor..... not so much.
"Oh no ! I am being followed by a creepy ghost who walks very slow. Guess I better rape this girl in the backseat of my car so I can give her this annoying curse."
I'll never get round to a proper post on It Follows - I'm too easily discouraged. Instead, know this: I like it. I like the concept. I like the soundtrack. I like that the teen characters are nice and supportive of each other. I like the ambiguous setting (in terms of both time and place). I like that I was genuinely disturbed by the tall man entering the bedroom.
The girlfriend was suitably amused. I should hope so, for £15 a ticket.
I shudder to think how much Inside Out in 3D is going to cost me.
- Mad Max: Fury Road ★★★★★
- Spy ★★★★
- It Follows ★★★★
- Whiplash ★★★★
- Slow West ★★★
- Ex Machina ★★★
- Jurassic World ★★★
- Song of the Sea ★★★
- Avengers: Age of Ultron ★★★
- Fast & Furious 7 ★★★
- Kingsman: The Secret Service ★★★
- Inherent Vice ★★
- Big Hero 6 ★★
The girlfriend was suitably amused. I should hope so, for £15 a ticket.
I shudder to think how much Inside Out in 3D is going to cost me.
