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Royal Rumble 2009 Match

Here me out on this one. What did WWE do very good at in 08? Suprises. Some I can think of Cena at RR return, Jericho win at Unforgiven, Hardy win at Armageddon (everyone including myself were set on Edge retaining and WWE knows this). I think the WWE wants us to think HHH will win the rumble, but I am now almost certain someone else will and I'll even bet that since WWE knows most people think Edge and Cena will win/retain the belts, I'm willing to bet Hardy and JBL retain/win the belts. I think WM will be Edge vs Hardy vs Christian, Christian vs Hardy, or the best Edge vs Christian vs Hardy vs Hardy (how awesome would that be that is a SOLID ME that has never been done before). The WWE is smart enough (I sure hope so) to not put Edge vs HHH as the ME at WM 25 when we just saw it at GAB. I'll even go on a limb and say Batista will win the rumble because he either had surgery that was minor (maybe a clean out which takes 2 weeks max to fully recover) or didn't have surgery at all. Think about it why would you choose to have surgery 3 months before WM 25 esp when talks are you being in the ME. Even if he was hurting he doesnt have to wrestle every week either. So we can have Cena Batista 2 as a sub ME at WM. I'm not thrilled on him winning 2 rumbles in 4 years but it would be a suprise. I can almost guarantee just like Cena being out 8 months to a year (he came back in 2.5 months) Batistas isnt 6-8 months either.
 
Well so much for that. I leave on my semi-holiday sabbatical, and come back to discover how the GrincHHH stole Wrestlemania from me. So much for the heel winning the Rumble. Triple H is getting his superman booking once again. It's terribly predictable at this point with the game. He's going to be in the main event, most likely against edge, and he's going to close the show out at Wrestlemania 25 holding the WWE championship over his head. So coming in second last year, and then winning the Eliminatino Chamber isn't enough, the man will win the Rumble this year, and at this point, the Triple H joke isn't funny anymore.

I am still holding out hope that HHH was the one who attacked Jeff Hardy, but the possibility of this happening becomes smaller by the day. Furthermore, while I definitely agree with your analysis of HHH's booking and what it bodes for the future, I am also hoping that he earns his title shot at Wrestlemania, if he must have it, through the Elimination Chamber.

From the way things look now, RAW will definitely have the main event at Wrestlemania. Given this, while I would be fine with Randy Orton winning the Rumble, I think it would be best for MVP to win it. I say this simply because, as far as I can tell, MVP is in limbo between mid-card and title-contender status and this would be the perfect way to find him admission into said title-contender status.

While one may argue that wins for the Rumble should be reserved for those who are already main-eventers, I would just like to say that Shawn Michaels broke into title-contender/main-event status by winning the Rumble in 1995. Furthermore, if one would like to argue that MVP isn't ready for the title, I would again point to the aforementioned Royal Rumble and say that winning it doesn't necessarily entail capturing a title at Wrestlemania.

So, if I had it my way, I would have MVP win the Rumble, face Edge for the WWE title at Wrestlemania, and have Edge work his magic to make MVP a bona fide face on the road to Wrestlemania. Furthermore, I would have my main-event match from Smackdown! be Jeff Hardy vs. HHH while I would have the RAW main-event (and overall main-event for Wrestlemania) be Cena vs. Orton for the WHC.
 
I'm going to apologize ahead of time...cause this is gonna be a long post haha.



So here are the current known participants:

1. Rey Mysterio
2. Chris Jericho
3. Kofi Kingston
4. Randy Orton
5. Shelton Benjamin
6. Vladimir Kozlov
7. Big Show
8. Undertaker
9. HHH

This leaves (let's do the math kiddies) 21 superstars left.

We can rule out the champions and the challengers, obviously, so no Cena, Jeff Hardy, Edge, or JBL. We can rule out Batista as he's injured.

Some people are damn near guaranteed to be in it:

10. John Morrison
11. Finlay
12. MVP
13. CM Punk
14. The Miz
15. Tommy Dreamer
16. Chavo Guerrero
17. Santino Marella
18. Kane
19. Mark Henry
20. Cody Rhodes
21. Carlito
22. Khali
23. HBK (even though they said he wouldn't, c'mon. He has to be, due to the severely low number of upper midcard or main event faces in this match).

Some people are inactive and we can't be too sure if they'll be thrown in there. This includes Umaga, Mr. Kennedy, Evan Bourne, and Ted DiBiase.

Matt Hardy and Jack Swagger probably won't be in it as they'll most likely just be in the ECW title match.

The rest of the guys have the same shot as each other. Any of them could be thrown in as equally as the ones next to them, but chances are, they won't. This list is Paul Burchill, Charlie Haas, Kizarny, D-Lo Brown, DJ Gabriel, Val Venis, Ryan Braddock, Boogeyman, Gavin Spears, Cryme Tyme, Scotty Goldman, Bam Neely, Funaki, Jesse, Dolph Ziggler, Sim Snuka, Curt Hawkins, Zack Ryder, and Jimmy Wang Yang.

But here's the other grouping...people that are above that jobber list up there, but are still in jeopardy mainly due to whether or not any "legends/guest stars" show up and who (if any) of the inactive/injured return. This list is Gregory Helms, William Regal, Mike Knox, R-Truth, Manu, Festus, The Brian Kendrick, Ezekiel, Ricky Ortiz, and Primo Colon. Out of that list, I think the three with the best chances of being involved are Helms, Truth, and Kendrick, and the one with the least chance is Ezekiel, who will most likely just accompany Kendrick.

There's a good shot that they'll put Goldust in it, but I don't see them really bringing in any other former stars.


Out of that list, the Final Four is tough to call, but you can VERY safely narrow it down to 12 people: Jericho, Orton, Kozlov, Big Show, Undertaker, HHH, Morrison, MVP, Kane, HBK, Umaga, Mr. Kennedy.

Out of that list, you're going to need at least one face. You can't have a final four of all heels. Since Orton is the obvious favorite to win the whole thing, we can put him in there. The only faces out of that group are Taker, HHH, HBK, and Kennedy (who may not be in it). Here's where it gets tricky. Taker has no current storyline, but you can never count him out. HHH is almost a lock to be in the final four because, well, he's HHH, and he'll probably eliminate Kozlov as well. HBK is very confusing as they're saying right now that he's not in the Royal Rumble at all, but we know he'll be in it, except you also have to take into account that JBL could screw him out of it and I can't see that happening in the final four. It'll happen earlier than that.

SOOOOOO....my predictions for the final four: Orton, HHH, Undertaker, and either Jericho or Big Show. Final two coming down to Orton/HHH, with Orton winning, cause HHH will want to be in the final two again as that's 2nd best to not being able to win it.
 
So my predictions to the list of 30 guys on the match are:

  1. Rey Mysterio
  2. Chris Jericho
  3. Kofi Kingston
  4. Randy Orton
  5. Finlay
  6. Shelton Benjamin
  7. Vladimir Kozlov
  8. The Big Show
  9. Undertaker
  10. Triple H
  11. John Morrison
  12. The Miz
  13. Primo
  14. Carlito
  15. Umaga
  16. Khali
  17. Hornswoggle
  18. CM Punk
  19. William Regal (just to screw CM Punk, by then Punk will be IC champ)
  20. Mark Henry
  21. Kane
  22. Cody Rhodes
  23. Santino Marella
  24. Tommy Dreamer
  25. MVP
  26. Chavo Guerrero
  27. Vladimir Kozlov (it could lead to him facing Umaga or Khali)
  28. Sim Snuka
  29. Superfly Snuka (it could be the beggining of the feud between fathers and sons)
  30. Jeff Hardy

So, as you can see, I listed Jeff Hardy, well in my opinion he will be the 30 man to enter the match and in my book will be the winner, what better way to make it again Edge vs. Jeff Hardy at Wrestlemania 25 and with Triple H in it?

Triple H will of course will the Rumble or The Elimination Chamber so throw this together and you will have a surprise winner because no one will expect someone who just lost a match for a World Championship to be in it.
 
I think HHH or HBK will win at the Rumble. Yes, I know that HBK is not supposed to be there, but keep in mind things change. As for HHH, I think it is so he can win it and face Hardy (or whoever is champion) on Smackdown (or move over to Raw).
 
I say MVP will win it. It'd be a shock, and it would be a great push for the guy. Think about it: he continues on his losing streak, and he is added to the Rumble because its Vickie's idea as a joke. And she rigs it so he comes out as number one. Well anyway, he survives until there are a few people in the ring, adn he slips out unnoticed. Then the number 30 entrant ocmes out, and its Mr. Kennedy! He's the last person left supposedly, as MVP has crawled under the ring. But as Kennedy thinks he's won, MVP comes out and tips him over the rope, winning the Rumble!

Obviously, Kennedy feels he's been cheated out of the Rumble, so they continue feuding. MVP decides to face Edge, who won against Hardy at the Rumble. Anyway, after a match at NWO for the No. 1 contendership ends in a double countout, Vickie declares the match to be a triple threat match between Edge, Kennedy and MVP. And of course, MVP wins at WM, gving him his first world title reign.
 
As usual with the rumble, there are typically only two real options, with maybe one or two more "maybes". I believe it's been stated already, but the only real options I see at this point is orton or HHH. With jericho as a maybe.

My guess is that for wrestlemania, there is no way that HHH is not going to be in the main event. That means he either will win the rumble or an elimination chamber, and it will be whichever one he prefers. I'm guessing the only reason he dropped the belt earlier was so that he could add either another rumble or another chamber victory to his list of accolades.

Similarly, for the raw side, there is no way that cena is not going to be in the main event, which means that he needs an opponent that people want to see him go up against. At this point, it makes sense that it would be orton. Or another good possibility is that we'll end up seeing a triple threat with cena vs. orton vs. jericho somehow. So that means either an orton, or possibly a jericho victory.

I honestly don't imagine anyone else winning the rumble. 25 or so will be individuals with no hope just adding to the total number anyway.
 
The Miz, John Morrison, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, Santino Marella, Rey Mysterio, Undertaker, Kofi Kingston, Randy Orton, Vladimir Kozlov, Shelton Benjamin, Triple H, Big Show

That's the current lineup, with 17 more names to go: two of which you can be almost 100% certain are HBK and Chris Jericho, despite how they're trying to claim that they're NOT going to be in it. They will. C'mon now. You think Jericho is gonna be completely off the ppv without an injury or a suspension being the reason? And you think HBK isn't gonna be in it when they're already severely lacking in main event faces to put in there? No way.

Kane will be in it. CM Punk will be in it. Mike Knox is 50/50 but I'm pretty sure they'll throw him in there so Mysterio can eliminate him, as Mysterio isn't gonna be eliminating more than one or two people this time around, tops. Lots of guys haven't been added into there, but you know they will be, like Khali and Mark Henry.

But still...Orton's the favorite.
 
I hope the WWE goes with a complete shock on who wins the Rumble. Last Year's rumble was shocking because of the Cena return and I think the WWE needs to shock the fans again. One idea would be to have Edge compete in it even though he will be facing Hardy earlier and have him win. This would be good, but hardly shocking enough.

The WWE could pull a 360 and give it two a young guy like The Miz, Punk or Morrison, but I doubt that. The Money in the Bank is more for rewarding new/breakout guys and the rumble winners lately have been pretty big names. You could have Kennedy make a surprise entrant but I wouldn't want him to win and mainevent since I don't think he is ready.

Last you could have Christian debut and win it. While the IWC will claim they weren't surprised, the regular viewers would be shocked. Also it would instantly make Christian a big time player and give him instant credibility. He could then go on to feud with Hardy or Edge or both.

In the end I see the WWE giving it to Orton, HHH, or Jericho. Most likely Orton but I hope there is a big shocker because it is what the WWE needs.
 
Well Christian is the Dark Horse I believe this year. There is a great chance he will make his debut at The Royal Rumble in the number 30 spot, and win it all. The Fans would love it, we will all go warm and fuzzy, as we see Christian win it all. However, Even though I originally said Mike Knox as winning it this year, recently he has been man handled against Rey Mysterio. Really, what Mysterio needs to do is start putting people over who deserve to go over. Mike Knox is one of these people. In reality, he is one of the best monster heels in the WWE in a while. He isn't ugly, not a freak, and has a sweet beard. But this is all talk for another thread.

With the talk of the Legacy in the Royal Rumble, that will truly be interesting. With neither Sim Snuka and Manu in the Rumble as of now, does that means they will interfere and eliminate Randy Orton at some point, costing him his title? That is a great possibility. With that out there, I really cannot see Orton winning now. I think that Chris Jericho, who has been "fired" could come back, cause shit in the Rumble and win it. My new choice is Chris Jericho.
 
I agree with most that there are 3 choices for the winner. Jericho, Orton, Triple H. I don't think Triple H is going to win. I think they are going to set up a Big Show/Triple H feud, either ending at WM or No Way Out. Jericho was "fired" so I could see him making a return at the RR and winning, but I don't see that happening. So that leaves Orton. I can see Orton having DiBiase and Rhodes help him clean house, then tossing them out to benefit himself, leading to an eventual victory. So my pick as of right now, and I doubt it changes before the Rumble, unless I see something to make me think otherwise, Randy Orton is my 2009 Royal Rumble winner.
 
I think I posted already that I thought Triple H was going to win the Rumble. Three matches in one night, Vickie Guerrero has it in for him, he was supposed to win last year, winner of the Elimination Champber matches last year. Yeah I'm pretty sure it'll be his turn again.

They've announced nearly two thirds of the wrestlers involved in this match, and I really only have one wish. I hope that Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase & Brian Kendrick get a good run in the match.

I'll be surprised if Rhodes & Dibiase don't, Cody did last year. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kendrick only lasts longer than Santino.
 
I'm still pushing for Kane to win, but I doubt that he'll even stand much of a shot. He'll probably be the guy that comes in and cleans house, like always, but he'll get eliminated soon after by Triple H or Big Show.

In all honesty, I think Orton will win, and it'll set up Orton v. Cena for Wrestlemania.

I'm keeping Brian Kendrick as my dark horse, because he can use his size as an asset and hide from the fray, and sneak in to the final few guys.
 
I think that there a number of possibilities so have been discussed, some haven't.

I think the most likely outcome is Orton will win the Rumble, and HHH will be in the main-event but through winning the title at NWO and squirm into the main event that way. HHH needs the Rumble push less than the Orton so it makes sense.

Next there is HHH winning the Rumble, I'm against it because 1) He doesnt need the push, and 2) I honestly don't think HHH would be able to draw.

Then theres 3 other possible alternatives though....

One is the Undertaker, what's to stop him winning it again and facing either Cena or Hardy. In Hardy's case it would give him a huge rub if they were to let him beat taker at mania, and Cena/Taker would probably be the biggest drawing match possible at this mania.

HBK, he isn't in it yet but if JBL loses then it could set up the culmination of their feud at NWO by having HBK defy JBL and entering the Rumble, then HBK puts his shot on the line at NWO- and we get HBK/Cena again at mania.

Similarly Edge after failing to beat Hardy at the Rumble could have Vicki enter him into the Rumble - for a Cena/Edge main event.

These are the only realistic possiblities in my opinion, I cannot see WWE giving the main event at mania to anyone else.
 
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Yeah i am with NSl i posted a while back saying Kane as a good chance. With a another little feud with Orton that should only last until the Royal Rumble he would have nothing to do when WrestleMania comes around so why not throw him in the title match. There is to good reasons.

1) He isn't that bad in the ring for a big man. I mean he is top 2 for best in the ring with big men. Him and Cena could have a good storyline with this. Monster vs Champ or what ever.

2) This would be new. Having Orton in it ( which would be good talent wise) would make it the 6th match with them in the two years and a half on PPV's. If you include the thriple threats and what nots. HHH and Cena has been done. Same with JBL/HBK/edge( wouldn't mind it being this though)/Jericho and Batista is out. New and fresh is the way to go.

Seriously what is so bad about Kane. He is decent in the ring and this could be a good match because Cena can sell and Kane can do what he does best.
 
When Charlie Haas did his impressions, he did Bret Hart, Hogan and Austin. For my anyway, the only legend missing is The Rock. What chances of Haas being in the Rumble as "The Haas" and coming out to the Rock's music to get the crowd going?
 
I think this years Royal Rumble is looking a little too predictable. So, there's been 17 superstars announced for the Rumble, but realistically, how many of the 17 actually can anyone see winning? Maybe 3. Let's take a look at the list. I will go through the list by brand, listing superstars based on who I think is most likely to win all the way down through least likely to win.

Raw:

Randy Orton - Perhaps the only legit threat on Raw for obvious reasons.

Rey Mysterio - Absolutely no shot at winning, but I suppose if anyone else had an outside shot, it would be him. Heck, if for no other reason than he's won it before.

Kane - Absolutely no shot at winning either, he'll likely come in, clean house, and then get blindsided by an unsuspecting superstar and make a relatively quick exit.

Santino - Sadly, I can see WWE giving him a victory before somebody such as Kofi Kingston, but he is another guy with absolutely no shot. He'll be in there for comedy, likely have numerous funny situations, and then exit.

Kofi Kingston - Sure, it'll never happen. If it did, it would qualify as utter shock and most fans will be entirely speechless, but I just don't see much from Kofi at the Rumble.

Rhodes & DiBiase - They are there solely to help out Orton. I've been thinking of interesting swerves for the Rumble and one of them is having Legacy be the last 3 guys left and having Rhodes and DiBiase eliminate themselves. Sure, it'd be a horrific way to end the Royal Rumble, but I wouldn't put it past Vince.

Smackdown!:

HHH & Undertaker - Two guys you can never bet against, I can see either one winning.

The Big Show & Vladimir Kozlov - Both, I'm guessing, will have brief dominant stints in the Royal Rumble, but neither are walking out victor.

Shelton Benjamin - He won't win, but I see him lasting a while, especially after how poorly he was used last year. WWE seems to be taking him seriously right now. He's had an OK, yet uneventful run with the U.S. title, but more importantly he's been in the ring with the big boys, such as HHH and the Undertaker and he's pushed both guys to their limits.

Carlito, R-Truth, and The Brian Kendrick - You can file all 3 under the same category. I don't see anything half way notable coming out of any of them.

ECW:


John Morrison & The Miz - Neither will win, obviously, but I think it'd be great for Morrison to at least make an impact. He has break out, main event star written all over him if handled properly, so hopefully he'll last a while.

Potential Swerves:


Ok, so even the swerves this year are kind of predictable. Who would actually be shocked if Shawn Michaels was able to enter the Royal Rumble to stick it to JBL and watch as HBK goes on to win? Not entirely likely, but I wouldn't be totally shocked honestly. What about Jericho? He was fired, right? What about a surprise return and victory there? Certainly stranger things have happened.

There are 13 spots open, and no one WWE can add to the Rumble is really going to change what I believe are only 3 potential winners in Orton, HHH, and Taker.

It'd be great if a truly unsuspecting guy would win, if for nothing else, just to shock the crap out of the WWE universe, but that won't happen. It'll be one of 3 or 5 guys. Might as well have a 5 man Royal Rumble, because WWE isn't building anyone up to have a chance but the usual suspects.
 
As usual with the rumble, there are typically only two real options, with maybe one or two more "maybes". I believe it's been stated already, but the only real options I see at this point is orton or HHH. With jericho as a maybe.

My guess is that for wrestlemania, there is no way that HHH is not going to be in the main event. That means he either will win the rumble or an elimination chamber, and it will be whichever one he prefers. I'm guessing the only reason he dropped the belt earlier was so that he could add either another rumble or another chamber victory to his list of accolades.

Similarly, for the raw side, there is no way that cena is not going to be in the main event, which means that he needs an opponent that people want to see him go up against. At this point, it makes sense that it would be orton. Or another good possibility is that we'll end up seeing a triple threat with cena vs. orton vs. jericho somehow. So that means either an orton, or possibly a jericho victory.

I honestly don't imagine anyone else winning the rumble. 25 or so will be individuals with no hope just adding to the total number anyway.

My sentiments EXACTLY. Somebody not established to a certain point will never win the Rumble, but what about say, Kane, The Big Show, Vladimir Kozlov, CM Punk? Guys that are established to a point, but guys you know will never win. There's plenty more, but those are just a few examples.
 
Id love Kane to win it, but he's been used so badly lately i dont think he can be seen as a viable championship contender. Which sucks because he major over back when he first unmasked, and before.

Taker being my favourite id be happy to see him win, but i dont think he will, we all know he will win his wm match, so theres no suprise.

HHH shouldnt win-he's won it before, and he's had a so-so run last year as champ.

Y2j and Cena has been done, so im goinig with Orton winning, his feud with Cena seems unfinished to me.

Outside chance, Edge wins title at RR, Christian returns and wins rumble.
 
After what happened last night, i don't see Randy Orton winning the royal rumble for 2 simple reason.

1. he won the over the top rope challenge and nobody that won that match won the rumble match.

2. With what happened last night, i'm guessing that it would lead to either a single match against vince or orton tagging with Jericho to face vince and shane mcmahon at wrestlemania. Either way, i think Orton's plan for Wrestlemania are to face a Mcmahon.

So, now that ORton is out of the picture to win the rumble, am guessing that they will either do the predictable thing in giving HHH the match or do like they did last year and have a surprise entrant win the match.
 
Here me out. I'm not completely sold on the Batista injury. I think it would be exactly like last year, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the Rumble and he goes on to face Cena. Orton seems to be involved with McMahons now and I really hope they don't insert themselves in the WM main event storyline (Orton vs. Cena, perhaps).
 
I'm with you there, I wouldn't be surprised if Batista came back, but I don't think he'd win it if he did, it would be too predictable once he came out. Besides my top 3 (Orton, Undertaker, HHH) I could see Christian winning it, the angle would be easy to cut. You can use a big push, maybe Rhodes or Dibiase eliminating Orton.. surprises are what I'm looking for. Let Ezekiel dominate for a few minutes. Hopefully Umaga returns for the Rumble. There's still 11 spots left.

Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
 
Here me out. I'm not completely sold on the Batista injury. I think it would be exactly like last year, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the Rumble and he goes on to face Cena. Orton seems to be involved with McMahons now and I really hope they don't insert themselves in the WM main event storyline (Orton vs. Cena, perhaps).

Exactly what I said a couple of pages ago.

Why would you "opt to get surgery"? And the fact I'm sure he knew he could be in the ME at WM 25 with him and Cena. As I said it doesn't add up.

He wasn't like the Undertaker who obviously needs it ASAP even if he needed it or wanted it just wrestle every so often and get it after WM.

It never showed him under while getting the surgery either.

I think hes going to come back as well.

One other thing I noticed. The preview for the EC at NWO says for the WWE championship, which makes me think a raw star could win this years RR.
 
Congratulations, the Winner of this years Royal Rumble is without a doubt Randy Orton.

The Punt to Mr. Mcmahon simply put, sealed the deal. why did it seal the deal you ask? What is Stephanie McMahon going to do on Monday Night Raw as her first act, fire Randy Orton, that's right. But wait, uh oh, Randy Orton won the WWE Royal Rumble, which guarantees him a shot at a title at Wrestlemania.

Now Stephanie McMahon isn't going to fire Randy Orton, because the legal ramifications would be too great, but she could put an ultimatuum on young Randy Orton, once that title match happens, and if he doesn't win, he'll be fired, which will eventually result in Orton taking the title (because surely you can't fire the champ) or long enough for Shane to save the day for Randy Orton. Simply put, Randy Orton's actions can't go unpunished, but winning the Royal Rumble wins him a sort of Diplomatic Immunity.
 

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