Round 2, Day 7

[Uncle Sam]

Completely agreed, as I pointed out a long time ago in the discussion thread when speculation about a Lesnar/Nash encounter appeared.

Lesnar takes it in a fairly entertaining match where Nash is oddly outdone in almost ever aspect. Brocky is a dark horse to win the WWE region - I think that he could be a real contender to derail the Heart Break Kid. This hopeful victory will add big time to his momentum as well.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Lesnar, was, fucking amazing. One of the all time most athletically gifted guys to ever step between the ropes. Was an NCCA champ, and greatly entertaining in ring. Lesnar would be carrying the WWE on his back for the next 10 years if he wouldve stuck around. So damn good that fans couldnt help to gravitate to him, even while he was a heel, with fuckin annoying ass paul heyman as his manager, against the uber face Rock. Honestly, I think if he is still around today, he is steam rolling through this tournament.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I agree with IC25 that thiswould be an extremely tough close match, and im a big fan of shamrocks, and will always say the WWE fucked up with how they used him. But flyin Brian was the shit, and would will his way through this one I think. A disclaimer though, as Pillman had a notoriosley weak ankle, from the accident that gave him all his other long term nagging injuries, and if Shamrock got a hold of it, it would snap like a twig. I think Pillman does everything in his power to escape such a fate, and gets the win here. tough choice, tough choice.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

How, in the WORLD can ANYONE vote for Billy Gun in this?? are you SERIOUS????? We are talking about one of the BEST ever, against one of the WORST ever. Benoit would utterly destroy this loser, who shouldnt have even got past the godfather in the first round. Benoit, easily.

 

[strafro]

SQUASH ALERT!!!! Seriously people, Benoit is amazing and Billy Gunn is one of the few guys I have seen screw themselves over after winning the King of the Ring, the guy is boring, and really only got over because the Road Dogg could work a crowd. Benoit should get 100% of the vote, but I already see he won't and it disappoints me.

 

[Uncle Phatso]

benoit all the way billy gun is a good wreslter no doubt but he dosent have the ring no how that benoit has. mr ass has a fan base but benoit is a bigger and better wrestler than him i think in any ring anyware benoit could of beat gunn the only thing that could stop his is if bg was with bill interferance maybe.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Kane is winning but that's bullshit. It's fine if you like him. But come on. Neither can wrestle. But Douglas has at least had plenty of entertaining ECW matches. He's also one of the best mic men ever.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Tanaka is great. But without hardcore rules he wouldn't stand a chance. He's not a great tactician. Hardcore is what he is good at. And he's against Bret Hart who's one of the best ever. I don't want Bret to win, but I don't want him to exit early.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Even in his prime Funk wasn't as good as Rude. He was still great. But he wasn't as good as Ravishing Rick. The problem with Terry is that he should have retired 20 years ago, or more. The reason he doesn't get as much shit as Flair is because he isn't on WWE TV week in and out. But Funk has been just as bad as Flair for the past decade or so, possibly worse.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Kobashi can still go no. Into his 40's having just battled cancer. Tazz gassed out 18 months ago just having a pull apart with Jerry Lawler. I love Tazz but as Taz/z (not including the Tazzmaniac) his career wasn't very long. Maybe if he was entering WWE today things would have turned out differently. But 2 years after his Rumble debut he was doing interviews.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Both are mid carders. But at least one will stay in the mid card. The other will probably get a monster push at some point. Probably because he's so charismatic. He'll also probaly get a world title shit. He'll then go back into the mid card quicker than King Mabel.

King Mabel is better than Carlito btw.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Lesnar wins by submission. Nash taps out when Lesnar get's him in the F-5. Vertigo, what a bitch.

It's simple. Lesnar good. Nash bad. Why TNA still use him confuses me. Unreliable and just plain shit.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Shamrock was solid. But he couldn't work half as well as Flyin' Brian. Also Shamrocks ''rage'' wasn't half as good as Pillmans either. Brian was better in every aspect. I like Shamrock but I can't remember a thing he did in wrestling.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Billy Gunn is balls. If he's the best pure athlete on Raw (as he was in 1999) then what about all the talented wrestlers. Overpushed. And he appears to be deluded as well. I get the impression he believes he's great. Bring back the Smokin' Gunns because that's the highlight of this losers career.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Pretty much, yeah. Benoit makes Gunn his bitch in seconds. I don't think anybody's going to dispute that - if Sabrina the teenage witch can do it, the rabid wolverine sure as hell can. What is interesting is that this match brings up who you would vote against Benoit for, and when the murders start being a significantly negative factor for him. Certainly, this won't be the match for that.

 

[X]

Terry Funk...not as good as Rick Rude?

Rick Rude, while great, was never a main event level talent. Ever.

Am I seriously the only one here who remembers Terry Funk before ECW (as apparently IC25 doesn't remember)? The one who battled Ric Flair to some of the greatest matches in wrestling history?

Rick Rude is so overrated compared to a guy like Terry Funk. Terry Funk was a wrestler's wrestler. Him and Flair were the gold standard for a long time in the business.

Rude couldn't do one thing better in wrestling then Funk could.

Bret Hart and Funk is very close, and I didn't realize they'd be matching up in the next round or so, but I'd still take Funk in that one as well.

And no f'n way in hell does Kobashi go past Funk, no way.

Like I said, and this is just in my book people, there's only two guys who can even compete with Funk in my book, and thats Flair and HBK.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Am I seriously the only one here who remembers Terry Funk before ECW (as apparently IC25 doesn't remember)? The one who battled Ric Flair to some of the greatest matches in wrestling history?

I am perfectly willing to admit that I don't grasp the full scope of Funk's career. And to be honest, in many cases I would no have voted at all in this poll out of sheer lack of knowledge. But Funk is up against Rick Rude, and a vote for Rude isn't a vote wasted, even if it is cast out of quasi-ignorance. If Funk were going against a TNA mid-carder, I'd have no issue voting for Funk, and if nothing else, this gives me cause to go back and read up on the man.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Maybe just maybe if Funk had stopped wrestling in the 80'she'd be worth voting for. But the fact is that like Flair he's continued to wrestle long past his prime, and wrestle badly. For every classic he's had as the hardcore legend he's had 100 that have been total garbage. Rick Rude hidn't wrestle for very long compared to the average wrestler. But he was consistently great and he was never given the oppertunity to make comeback after comeback.

 

[X]

Come on Jake, Rude made like 30 comebacks in the 90s. He'd jump from WWF to WCW to ECW and back in a big circle, never accomplishing anything in any of those promotions.

Rude turned into crap at the end, granted that was because of injury and drug problems, but his last matches there around the mid 90s were usually always utter garbage.

But if we were to vote based on bad matches to go with good matches, then Ric Flair would be jobbed out of the building in the first round. Thats not the case though.

I stand by my belief that a vote for Rick Rude here is simply ignorant and unjustified.

 

[Shocky]

Rick Rude was heel of the year in 1992. He had a run as a "quasi" world champion, depending on what belt actually was the start of the WCW title. He was over in the WWE, but was simply too small to be considered a main eventer. However, he was a damn good heel wrestler in WCW, what do you know, WCW actually managed to use someone properly back in the day. Now is Rude good enough to be the Funker, it's hard to say and I'm not deciding just yet, even though I think Funk will probably get the nod from me. I think that a vote for Rude though would be justified. It doesn't matter, because both are getting beat by Hart in the next round.

 

[Shocky]

I like Tanaka, but he has no chance in this thing. He's a solid solid guy, but Bret Hart is probably one of the five best to ever get into a ring. Bret is highly adaptable as well. Does he get caught up in his own five moves of doom, you bet, but the guy knows how to work a body part like no other.

 

[Shocky]

Taz is solid, but the problem with Taz is he is known for a good two to three year run in ECW, and other then that, it was either dumb gimmicks or a glorified jobber. Kenta on the other hand has had a long successful career and can still go. Taz is a good choice, but not the right choice.

 

[Shocky]

I'm going with Douglas. Am I the only one that enjoyed the hell out of the Franchise character. I think I am. I thought he was solid as the number one heel in the rogue company. I thought his matches, while not great, were damn solid, especially for not going out and being ultra hardcore in ECW. Kane is fine, but he's methodical and predictable.

 

[Agrex]

This is not a hardcore match, so Bret Hart with out a doubt in my mind. No way would the greatest in-ring technician in all of wrestling history lose in his home town. I like Tanaka, but since this is not a harcore match, he doesn't stand a chance.

 

[Agrex]

Brock Lesnar, all the way. He's a former NCAA champion, a Junior College National champion, IWGP world champion, IWGP Third Belt champion, and WWE champion. He's a great wrestler. He's proved himself in professional wrestling and MMA. So no doubt, in a match, under WWE rules, Lesnar would go over. This would be a pretty interesting match, but definately Brock going over.