RAW LD 9/21/2015 - Who will accept the US Open Challenge?

Maybe. I ain't got time to be pulling strings to see a damn wrestling show at this point though. Can I turn on the TV and watch it or do I gotta download and stream some grainy ass video 48 hours after it already took place?

And I like WWE just fine at it's best.

Y'all defending this Kane shit....it's bad, man. The things that have truly POPPED in the WWE in recent years and made it mainstream: Summer of Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Brock Lesnar. That's it. That's what moves the needle. That's what people want to see. Not this bad 1992 Papa Shango freak show supernatural bullshit. It's bad, man.

It's on TV. Just on late at night.
 
Maybe. I ain't got time to be pulling strings to see a damn wrestling show at this point though. Can I turn on the TV and watch it or do I gotta download and stream some grainy ass video 48 hours after it already took place?

And I like WWE just fine at it's best.

Y'all defending this Kane shit....it's bad, man. The things that have truly POPPED in the WWE in recent years and made it mainstream: Summer of Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Brock Lesnar. That's it. That's what moves the needle. That's what people want to see. Not this bad 1992 Papa Shango freak show supernatural bullshit. It's bad, man.

I believe ROH is on the same channel as TNA. In fact I think it's on right before or right after TNA.

As far as Kane goes, this is the kind of thing people were eating up in 1998 when WWE was so popular. I get that was 17 years ago and is old to us but maybe teenagers today who weren't around in 98 think that kind of thing is cool just like teens did back then.
 
LB has legitimate complaints. This show has been pretty damn bad (although I dug the Seth/Kane segment). People can be way too defensive about the show sometimes. Reminds me of KB constantly getting yelled at in TNA LDs in the past. It's good to have varying opinions.
 
I believe ROH is on the same channel as TNA. In fact I think it's on right before or right after TNA.

As far as Kane goes, this is the kind of thing people were eating up in 1998 when WWE was so popular. I get that was 17 years ago and is old to us but maybe teenagers today who weren't around in 98 think that kind of thing is cool just like teens did back then.

Are you saying that WWE runs different types of programs on it's show to cater to different types of people?

And that some people don't like some of the things they show but others do?
 
It's on TV. Just on late at night.

Yeah, that doesn't work for me being an adult with a job. I've watched ROH matches on youtube.

Look, at it's best the WWE is by far the best out there. There is so much talent in the company. And the GOOD shit is what gets over! Y'all telling me to go watch amateur wrestling, as if Brock ain't the biggest thing in wrestling in years.....as if Bryan wasn't the biggest thing before Brock.....and obviously Punk had his run. Owens is over. The Shield was over as a group. Ambrose is over. Rollins is over as a heel and will be huge as a face when he eventually turns.

The GOOD shit is good, and people like it! People like Sasha Banks! People like Dolph Ziggler!(they just lost faith because they never actually do anything important with him.....pulling the plug after last years Survivor Series was so dumb)

This supernatural shit been flopping for YEARS and we got Kane on some kind of superman/Clark Kent storyline wrestling for the damn title in 2015. LOLOLSMH.
 
LB has legitimate complaints. This show has been pretty damn bad (although I dug the Seth/Kane segment). People can be way too defensive about the show sometimes. Reminds me of KB constantly getting yelled at in TNA LDs in the past. It's good to have varying opinions.

Dude can complain but it's silly to say they should only use the type of wrestlers he likes.

There has to be a variety.

We all have stuff we don't like. We all complain about that stuff. But most of us understand that's part of the show and we watch anyway. We don't need to make a point about saying we're not going to renew our Network and such.

If we hate the whole show we turn to something else.
 
Are you saying that WWE runs different types of programs on it's show to cater to different types of people?

And that some people don't like some of the things they show but others do?

It's not easy writing a show that appeals to a seven year old and a 40 year old.
 
LB has legitimate complaints. This show has been pretty damn bad (although I dug the Seth/Kane segment). People can be way too defensive about the show sometimes. Reminds me of KB constantly getting yelled at in TNA LDs in the past. It's good to have varying opinions.

Not in there it wasn't.

Related note: remember last year or so when TNA was bragging about getting decent to good attendance for three straight nights in the Manhattan Center? WWE just sold out a building about five times that size three nights in a row, one night of which was for their developmental system. You should be able to draw 2,000 people in New York CIty with a sign that says "DANGER! RABID SQUIRREL OUTBREAK!"
 
I believe ROH is on the same channel as TNA. In fact I think it's on right before or right after TNA.

As far as Kane goes, this is the kind of thing people were eating up in 1998 when WWE was so popular. I get that was 17 years ago and is old to us but maybe teenagers today who weren't around in 98 think that kind of thing is cool just like teens did back then.

Yeah, Kane was kind've cool.....17 years ago! He's still fucking here doing the same damn things though! There's nothing new or interesting here. And he's gotta be damn near 50 now. And he got his ass kicked on TV every week for like 2 years before getting taken out by Brock. LOL. It doesn't even make sense in kayfabe.

Kane wrestling for the title(with a DUMB ass angle) in 2015 is just a trainwreck all the way around. There's no excuse for this shit.
 
Not in there it wasn't.

Related note: remember last year or so when TNA was bragging about getting decent to good attendance for three straight nights in the Manhattan Center? WWE just sold out a building about five times that size three nights in a row, one night of which was for their developmental system. You should be able to draw 2,000 people in New York CIty with a sign that says "DANGER! RABID SQUIRREL OUTBREAK!"

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
That is a problem. WWE needs to decide what age group they're targeting.

Most kids aren't as dumb(a few of y'all may have been but...) as many adults seem to think they are.

Kids like Brock. Kids liked Bryan. Kids liked Punk. Kids would like Ziggler if he didn't get chumped out all the time. Kids will cheer for the best guys. You ain't gotta give them midgets and dumb ass magic tricks like WWE has done over the years when at it's worst.
 
They're doing fine targeting everybody.

Not really. Ratings are tanking lately. I'm sure the Kane title feud will help(sarcasm).

Lesnar got WWE on ESPN. CM Punk got them articles on ESPN and Grantland. Bryan probably got the best crowd reactions on a consistent basis for a long term time period since Rock and Austin in their prime.

They do well when they do good shit.

There's no reason the shows can't be good.....they are loaded with talent. There is absolutely no excuse for a Kane title feud. NONE. It's just bad, man.
 
Most kids aren't as dumb(a few of y'all may have been but...) as many adults seem to think they are.

Kids like Brock. Kids liked Bryan. Kids liked Punk. Kids would like Ziggler if he didn't get chumped out all the time. Kids will cheer for the best guys. You ain't gotta give them midgets and dumb ass magic tricks like WWE has done over the years when at it's worst.

Nah. Kids like John Cena and practically no one else.
 

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