Opinions On Bret Hart's Thoughts On Owen Situation

[closet_fan]

i was just reading bret's thoughts on the situation with martha owens' lawsuit regarding the use of owen hart's name, picture, etc. in the wwe right now. at first i had sided a bit with martha in that the wwe was using owen for self exploitation for their benefit. but after readying bret's thoughts, i am starting to side a bit more with the company. i am sure owen would hate the fact that his wife doesn't want the wwe to talk about his legacy in any way. even the fact that she doesn't want him inducted in the hall of fame is sad.

which way do you lean?

 

[peep4life]

im with WWE wether MARTHA likes it or not OWEN was part of the WWF/E and he should be in the HOF. OWEN was one of the grestest that got his career cut short in a tragic acciecedent and needs and desrves to be honered not forgotten. BRET said "OWEN would turn in his grave watching MARTHA try to erase everything he did" im pretty sure BRET knows OWEN better than MARTHA blood is thicker than marriage in this case. the fact that BRET hasnt seen OWENS kids in 10 yrs because of MARtha is sad and i agree with BRET this is for publicy. i hope one day OWEN can go in the HOF and be honnered RIP OWEN HART

 

[Money Inc.]

It's their (WWE) video library! I don't have a clue on what she is suing for.

She has already received an estimated 18 million dollars for her loss. (Yes you cannot put a price on a loved one, but if you were granted 18 million dollars, you think you would at least stay away from the courts for awhile. Once again I agree you cannon put a price on a loved one, but this is ridiculous)

She claims she doesn't want her kids to grieve and have to see the footage.

So I take it the Hart house doesn't have Internet, because it would be 100 times easier to look up information on their dad and the past on the web than information gained from a video package that rarely comes on.

And Bret is right..

I currently have wweclassics.com and they have a lot of Owen Hart on there. I would be upset if they took out all the owen matches simply because there an art to watch. She should be proud that they want to show off her husbands tenure with the company. I'm sorry Martha... but the more and more I hear about this case makes me think your after more money (which is sad, because she and everybody else lost a great guy)

 

[Fuel The Fire]

Yes I agree with Bret on all of this. Martha is very...VERY bitter and she needs to stop being so selfish. Is it right for her to not let her see what good things her dad accomplished. HELL NO ITS NOT. I have a feeling that when the kids turn 18 "not sure how old they are but she makes it sounds like they are young" But I have a feeling that the kids well either be as bitter as her or they will find a love in wrestling and hold a grudge against their mother for a long time.

I don't think she should take the chance for her kids to see their dad in the hall of fame away from them. How selfish can one be.

Sounds like Bret does not like Martha and I'm sure it hurts that he can't see owen's kids but who is Martha really hurting more...Owen..or the kids?

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I agreed with everything Bret Hart said...he was 110% spot on!!

Martha IS being selfish, Owen has soo many fans around the globe and we love to see old videos of him, his great fights including his WM X fight against his brother...when we see it, it's his legacy now, it's not like we're ever going to see Owen perform live again are we?? Yes it was a huge loss for her, and yes money($18m) can't replace someone, but what more could she now want...she has recieved the money from the damages and there isn't anything more for her to do..

Also yes, it is WWE's video library, (was their something in the lawsuit that said they can't use his name, picture etc.??) WWE own all that though..thats something I don't understand...

Also Martha needs to understand that we all love Owen Hart and as wrestling fans, it hurts us inside that we ain't going to see him perform again, but why does she have to kill the legacy of her husband as well...

 

[theHeadliner]

I think Martha is a hypocrite. She says she doesn't want her kids hurt by WWF/E exploiting Owen when right now she is the one bringing up and exploiting his memory and the tragic incident to the public with the kids by her side for publicity. I also guarantee her kids don't even watch the WWE so even if Owen's likeness was mentioned at all they wouldn't see it, and it would be honoring Owen and not slandering him regardless. I also don't know why she hasn't let Bret see the kids. The Hitman didn't do anything. If the WWF could take back what happened they would because Owen was one one of best human beings ever in wrestling and didn't deserve to go that way. Owen was a well-liked and respected wrestler who deserves better than his wife's blame-game circus.

 

[peep4life]

Yes I agree with Bret on all of this. Martha is very...VERY bitter and she needs to stop being so selfish. Is it right for her to not let her see what good things her dad accomplished. HELL NO ITS NOT. I have a feeling that when the kids turn 18 "not sure how old they are but she makes it sounds like they are young" But I have a feeling that the kids well either be as bitter as her or they will find a love in wrestling and hold a grudge against their mother for a long time.

I don't think she should take the chance for her kids to see their dad in the hall of fame away from them. How selfish can one be.

Sounds like Bret does not like Martha and I'm sure it hurts that he can't see owen's kids but who is Martha really hurting more...Owen..or the kids?

they have 2 kids Oje Edward Hart was born on March 5, 1992 and Athena Christie Hart was born on September 23, 1995. so they are 14 and 17 i think so there not as young as she makes them sound

 

[Stone_Cold_Randy_Orton]

First off Owen isn't worth anything in money. No amount will be enough. That's why I see this as reprehensible. But then again, who are we as fans who are obviously biased to be on Owen's side and to fight for his rights have a say? I agree with Bret. He at the moment is the closest one to Owen who can give a fair opinion on the matter. He knows Martha is doing this out of spite. What other reason is there? You know the one she gave: to protect her children. But I don't think removing Owen out of everyone's memory is worth protecting her children. They know he's dead. Even if they don't see him on TV they will remember it. She has no right to remove his legacy. That belongs to him and the WWE. You can say the WWE has a responsibility for him. That's why I believe Bret forgave the WWE. Although he may still hate Vince, which I believe he does, he knows in the end the WWE and not Vince is the main thing that he and his brother and even Vince are working to keep alive. Because its the same thing they all love. And the WWE is not just a company, it's a company that works for the fans. So in the end its the fans who matter. That's why its up to us the fans to keep Owen's legacy going because we're the reason he made one. And coupled with Martha plan to remove his memory from us, the fans, you can now see why we believe that's wrong and Martha is being selfish.

 

[1_2_3 Kid]

1st off, what a beautifuly wriiten blog by The Hitman..

He was so right in all he said and I don't hink ANYBODY would dissagree to that. Martha is not doing Owen any favors by all of this. I just wish the king of hearts dvd would come out and be able to come out with the proper build up and hype that the nugget deserved and would have requested. Its just really sad that owens own wife would cast such an ugly cloud over the legendary Hart family. She should be lucky to even have that last name.

Owen will always be missed and there is no changing that.....

 

[andy1983]

I agree with bret i mean does martha forget this is his closest brother out of them all ??? a brother not only that he respected but loved so much you just have too read brets book and when he talks about owen and he wants people and a new generation of fans to see this , martha will always have my symphethy this tragedy broke her and too this day she still hasnt remarried or has a partner and the kids too i mean any kids growing up with out a father is awful but how he died and how much a close family they where was just pure sad and tragic , however its 2010 a lot of time has passed and even though the day of these events will never go away i agree that both the children (teenagers now) should see there dad in a positive light and what he achived overall i mean not only was he one the most popular wrestlers ever but he did achive a lot in the wwe and for this to get completly ignored by martha is sad overall , i have read her book and thought it was one of the saddest things ive read but martha needs too move forward in a positve light and more importanly for there children they had a father to be very proud off and they should have the choice if they want to see him doing what he did best or stay away it should be there choice.

 

[Cookie14]

Like I have just said in a different thread, Owen has always been treated with the utmost respect by WWE since his death.

Look at two (fairly) recent WWE deaths, Chris Beniot and Eddie Guerrerro.

Benoit hasn't been acknowledged on WWE TV since two weeks after his death. All of his acomplishments have been ignored/forgotten since his death.

Eddie still gets mentioned on TV. His widow has a job in WWE! He has been inducted into the Hall of Fame, and had a DVD released since his death.

Because of Martha Hart, Owen is being treated more like Benoit than Guerrerro.

He deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame, and a DVD, but he will never get these while Martha is around.

Owen deserves to be able to leave a better legacy than he is currently being allowed to leave. He deserves to be remembered.

Unfortuanatly, Martha wants to erase him from history, rather than celebrate his life

 

[wushady]

I agree with Bret's opinion Martha should learn to accept Owen is gone and move on. She may think she has Owen and their kids best interest at heart, she comes off as a bitter money grubber to me. I don't get why she would want to erase all of his wrestling legacy, and alienate herself and kids from Owens family. Everything I've heard about him, and as Bret said himself that Owen would be rolling in his grave if he knew she wanted to erase his legacy and keep his kids from his brothers and sisters.

Hopefully one day she'll learn to move on and bury the hatchet as Bret has. So he can finally be inducted in the hall of fame.

 

[LascoX]

I thought Brets comments were well thought out and right on target. It was a terrible thing that happened to Owen but to erase his legacy would be just as terrible. Owen was an artist in the ring! It would be a shame to ignore and bury that great of a legacy. I can understand Marthas view point to a certain extent and don't know if there is anything in the legal agreements for her to be able to block the use of Owen's part of the WWE catalog. I hope the world won't be deprived of Owens talents of his past achievments in the ring as that is all we have left of him. I actually hope the best for Owens kids and even Martha as it is well documented he loved his family dearly! I just hope we will be able to continue to enjoy his work threw his work in the WWE archives. I do also agree that WWE has been respectful of Owen in the past since the incident that caused his death. Obviously Martha doesnt feel that way but hopefully she will come to terms with the fact that millions of wrestling fans truely loved and respected what Owen could do in a ring.

 

[OlderFan]

It's the same as it would be for any one of us - all things that you do in life, all the experiences you have, all the choices you make and the ones you dont' make - all of those things put together make each one of us what we are, just as it did with Owen. As hard as she may try, Martha cannot take wrestling out of Owen as that is an aspect of his life that made him who and what he was.

As sad as the loss of Owen the husband and Owen the father was, there is one aspect that Martha has never stopped to consider which has also not occurred to too many other people. That is the loss felt by Stu and Helen Hart. As horrible as it was for Martha to lose her husband and for Oje and Athena to lose their father, there is a different type of greater pain for Stu and Helen because parents aren't supposed to bury their children. Kids are not supposed to die before parents yet that is exactly what happened to Stu and Helen Hart. They also had to say goodbye to Owen, grieve for him, and miss him.

People have their own feelings and opinions about things and what Martha thinks about this may never change and that's okay. But, when it goes beyond that, to the point where you keep "stoking the fire" the way Martha is doing, you end up burying yourself because the only person affected by that kind of hate is the person doing the hating. Martha is gambling with the affection of her children because when it finally sinks in that they've been deprived of half of their family just because of their mother's spite, it could very well turn out that the kids end up hating Martha more than they ever hated the McMahons.

 

[The Crock]

Bret is on the right track. Owen is a hero in the WWE's eyes and all the fans eyes but Martha refused to let him be acknowledged. Martha is carrying a grudge and she shouldn't be, Owen was a great dude. R.I.P. Owen Hart.

 

[James]

Well duh. Martha hasn't made any sense and she's just in it for the money just like all women are. Bret is right, but I find it funny how he says she should get over it; however, it took him many years to get over the Montreal Screwjob.

 

[President Evil]

Im not picking sides on this, but Martha Hart needs to grow the fuck up. Yes I cant begin to understand to lose someone you've been married to had kids with, and in such a tragic way, plus its a loss, a wound that will never heal. But like Bret Hart said, right now, Martha is doing more harm to Owen's name than good. He's dead, nothing can bring him back. But his legacy is still alive, he was a good man, a fantastic wrestler, and very entertaining overall. New wrestlers can look up to Owen's legacy and be guided by it.

Many other good men/wrestlers like Rick Rude have died and have you seen a dvd set by him? Is he even mentioned by wwe? No.

Im not big into the God thing but maybe it was just Owen's time to go upstairs. How old is Martha right now? 40? She needs to grow up and understand these things happen. People get killed everyday, by the most simple innocent things like just crossing the street.

Martha needs to understand the E is not doing this for money. They dont NEED money right now. They have a shitload of it. The E is doing this to celebrate Owens legacy. And for new wwe fans to see what this great man was all about.

I am all for a nice big Owen Hart 3 dvd set.

 

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

I'm glad that Bret is taking the WWE's side on this, and rightfully so. Now, I'm no "know-it-all" but didn't Martha send a letter to Vince himself a few years ago, saying that she forgave him? If thats the case, then Martha is contradicting herself, and it just proves that she is a greedy bi*ch. Like someone above me said, she is forcing the WWE to treat Owen like Benoit as opposed to treating him like Eddie Guerrero. That person is right. Bret said himself in his comments that Martha is killing Owen's legacy and that if his legacy is completely wiped out, Owen will "roll over in his grave." Bret even said himself that Martha should allow her kids backstage to meet all of the superstars who remember their father, and who respected him, and grew up watching him. What Martha is doing makes me sick, and I hope she loses all future court cases with the WWE.

 

[WWEFAN_100]

I had the privilege of meeting Owen Hart and he was simply a great, down to earth Guy. I also Met Bret who is great as well.

I am with Martha on this one, rather it’s right or wrong if there is indeed a contract out there, indicating that WWE is not allowed to use Owen Hart’s name in anything and WWE decided to avoid that contract then Martha has every right to go after them rather we agree with it or not. It's the Law

I’m a huge Bret Fan, but I simply do not agree with Bret Comment’s. How does Bret know how Owen Hart would feel regarding the whole Martha situation?

Last time I checked Martha lived with Owen not Bret. Owen confides in Martha at night not with Bret. I just thought it was crazy that he would say "Owen will be rolling in his grave" when he does not even know the discussions that Owen and his wife has at night.

Owen was upset with WWE the last few months he was alive and as far as I’m concerned, I believe Owen signed a contract that stated when he died he didn’t want WWE to use his name for profit. (Whether that is true or not, I am not sure, I am just going by what is being said like everyone else)

Source: http://www.marthahartsueswwe.com/

Let's not forget that Owen Hart did not want to do this stunt but was forced too by Vince. They had rehearsed it the night before and Owen from what I read was afraid of Heights.

What I don’t understand is why didn’t WWE do something else?

Like a fundraiser in support of Owen Hart? And all money gets donated to his charity?

There is so many things that WWE could have done if this was really about supporting Owen Hart.

I personally would have respected WWE more.

Again the dvd, I have it, is not that bad but if WWE was not allowed to do it then Martha has the right to go after them.

I don't think I can respect a company or would want a company to gain money by using my husband name when they were partially responsible for the death by being reckless and unprofessional.

This is just my opinion though and how I would feel in Martha situation.

 

[The Crock]

Bret is totally right about all of this. The WWE owns all the footage so why shouldn't they be able to show Owen's matches if they want. Martha is just extremely greedy I think. Like most of the others have said; although money can't replace a loved one Martha has recieved 18 Million Dollars, what more does she need?

The whole thing about the children is absolutely phony. The children are teenagers now and have probably grieved about their father's death a lot, but I don't think that seeing their father's matches will raise up all these bad feelings. His kids have probably already seen a lot about him anyway.

Martha should embrace the fact that the WWE is showing Owen's matches, because the WWE shows nothing by the utmost of respect to Owen. Owen should be remembered for his amazing in-ring ability and love for Professional Wrestling.

R.I.P. Owen Hart