One Night Stand: Undertaker vs. Edge

[A.J.]

World Heavyweight Championship TLC Match
Undertaker vs. Edge
If The Undertaker loses he will be Fired!​

Well we all have been saying that will have a TLC match between these two, but to add the stipulation that if the deadman loses, he will be fired is a joke. Unless he is fired on Smackdown and gets to go to RAW then I guess that can work, but I dont see that happening. So I guess we can finally see the end to this whole Taker vs Edge feud, which one had promise, but now is just meh. Taker has only been in one ladder match and I think he wont do much in this match, as I expect Edge to do all the big bumps. I can see La Familia coming in and trying to screw the deadman, but to no luck. So since they add the stipulation I can see the Deadman winning and Edge looking more weak in losing in his match once again.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Leave it to the W.W.E. to take the best possible wrestling match left between these two, and fuck it up with a stupid stipulation. A.J. you're indeed correct, its a joke, plain and simple.

Edge HAD the best chance of coming out on top from this feud and saving his Main Event career. Now, with that added stipulation, the alternative for Edge winning would be the Undertaker going to E.C.W. lmao or Raw. Well, as said by my icon regarding E.C.W., I won't even go there.. so...

Undertaker to Raw? Definately NOT going to happen. Raw is way overstacked with top name players. John Cena, Triple H., Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Jeff Hardy. If Undertaker went to Raw, that'd drop Smackdown to Edge, Batista, Rey Msysterio & M.V.P. Which, there was even a rumor that Mysterio could be going to Raw. So I highly doubt the Undertaker will go to Raw.

So what would happen if Edge still won? Taker would get fired, and then we could see a sorta Mick Foley/The Rock type of angle from 2000.. when Foley got fired, then Rock gathered all the roster and threatened to strike if he wasn't rehired? I could KINDA see a similar storyline where the entire Smackdown roster threatened to quit.. but would that be a threat to Edge & Vickie? I mean in a sense, Edge as a heel with the World Heavyweight Championship would rather not defend it at all, then have to bring back the one guy who has had his number for the previous several monthes.

All in all, this is going to end badly.. for Edge. If he drops another T.L.C. match, I can't see how it'll be his type of match any longer. I mean, hes won TWO Single's T.L.C. matches in his career. The first against Matt Hardy, the second against Ric Flair. He's dropped one to John Cena, and if he drops this one to the Undertaker.. then how could it be "his" type of match anymore? Sure he defeated to guys that weren't on his level at the time of the matches.. but he lost to Cena when they were evenly matched, and it'll be the same with this match if he loses.

I really wish they wouldn't of added that stip. And I hope for whatever reason the spoiler was just adding random shit that wasn't there.

 

[Shocky]

The adding the Undertaker will be fired aspect ruins the match up. It's much like Average Joe and his match with Angle at Lockdown, the ending of the match is a foregone conclusion at this point.

Not like Edge was going to go over the Deadman anyway. I still think we're on a straight shot to WM 25 of the Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels for the WHC. Edge is good, but the Vickie Guerrero crap is getting far to old and stupid for me at this point.

Taker has been in one Ladder match, but he's slimmed down a lot since then. I actually think that this match is going to be much better then what some will say it is. Edge always delivers in gimmick matches, and we're dealing with the Undertaker, arguably the best of the last 10 years in gimmick matches.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The adding the Undertaker will be fired aspect ruins the match up. It's much like Average Joe and his match with Angle at Lockdown, the ending of the match is a foregone conclusion at this point.

I was thinking of the exact same stupid stipulation. However, I'm hoping for the W.W.E. swerve to come into play, possibly. Anytime someone gets "fired" they never stay gone for long. They either show up on the alternative show, or they come back to the same show with a reason. Which is why I brought up the old Mick Foley/Rock storyline from 2000.

However the stipulation is just ruining the match, any way you cut it. Because to pull out that type of swerve takes extra added time, which would result in this feud CONTINUING beyond this Pay Per View. And 4 straight p.p.v. matches is enough for any feud.. its borderlining T.N.A. with the amount of repeats.

Not like Edge was going to go over the Deadman anyway. I still think we're on a straight shot to WM 25 of the Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels for the WHC. Edge is good, but the Vickie Guerrero crap is getting far to old and stupid for me at this point.

If Taker holds the Championship all the way until Wrestlemania, I'll be downright shocked. However the rumored Shawn Michaels v. Undertaker (in Texas) showdown is one that I'm already growing overly excited for. I think the match would work better without a Championship on the line though.

If H.B.K. v. Taker was for the Smackdown Championship, it'd lessen Shawn's chance of winning with the assumed factor that he wouldn't wanna go to Friday nights or the "B" show to work, even as a Champion. If it were just a grudge match of sorts, it'd be Taker's biggest test to date.

Meanwhile, regarding Vickie.. I honestly think they were going to can her soon.. but the fans have suddenly exploded with massive heel heat against her, which leads me to believe she'll be remaining in that spot for as long as people give her those types of reactions.

Taker has been in one Ladder match, but he's slimmed down a lot since then. I actually think that this match is going to be much better then what some will say it is. Edge always delivers in gimmick matches, and we're dealing with the Undertaker, arguably the best of the last 10 years in gimmick matches.

I definately agree that this match, bar the outcome, is going to be a GREAT showdown. It'll be a phenomenal match with both guys being capable of pulling it off. And I fully expect big moves out of this match-up, unlike the H.H.H./Orton Cage match. All of that being said, I never doubted this type of gimmick match to be anything less than great for Taker & Edge.. its just all shit on by that stupid stipulation.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I was hoping for a casket match. But I can see why they've gone with this option. It's title based, and it's supposed to be Edge's forte. It just seems like an odd match to me. Not because Taker doesn't bump hard, but because I can't imagine the character trying to climb a ladder. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it to Smackdown vs. Raw video game rules.

I can't help but think that if this is the final match of the feud that they should have a HIAC. Yeah one was only doen a few months ago, but the same can be said about almost all the gimmicks on thiscard.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I was hoping for a casket match. But I can see why they've gone with this option. It's title based, and it's supposed to be Edge's forte. It just seems like an odd match to me. Not because Taker doesn't bump hard, but because I can't imagine the character trying to climb a ladder. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it to Smackdown vs. Raw video game rules.

I can't help but think that if this is the final match of the feud that they should have a HIAC. Yeah one was only doen a few months ago, but the same can be said about almost all the gimmicks on thiscard.

I don't think they opted away from the HIAC option because it was done shortly back, but instead because lately its been incredibly hard for the Superstars in the W.W.E. to sell any type of cage setting. Orton/H.H.H. bombed their cage match. And Batista/Taker absolutely did NOTHING with their last HIAC match. No reason to think Edge/Taker would simply use it as an item surrounding the ring, instead of a weapon.

The ladder doesn't have to be climbed, to be a weapon from high up. It can be used in several different positions with Taker possibly even breaking Edge's neck, by placing him ackwardly in the rungs. I think the ladder option is a great way to finish this feud, and regardless if they called it a T.L.C. match, or a Ladder match.. tables and chairs would've likely been involved anyways. T.L.C. is just more "fancy" these days, than "Ladder."

Furthermore, I'm likely seeing the ending being Edge getting the Jeff Hardy styled chokeslam off the top of the ladder, through a set of tables. I'd love to see Edge spear Taker off the top of the ladder, but that might be asking for a bit much. I'm unsure how much Taker would take a top of the ladder bump.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Vince McMahon himself made the call to strip the Undertaker of the World Title. The feeling is that Edge makes for a better champion than challenger, and that the Undertaker as champion needs great challengers. Taker vs. Batista has been done a lot, and the feeling is that Edge vs. Taker isn't a "money PPV match."

I just read this as a rumor, and it connects to what I've heard thats been said in the past. If this is remotely true, it could be huge for the outcome of this match, as this will more than likely be the end of the Edge/Undertaker feud.

So I truly have to ask, while Edge's Main Event career hangs on the line with a win being remotely the one thing that can save his name. If Edge does indeed win, and the above mentioned rumor is true, what does that say for the Undertaker as a Main Event player?

To me it says that A.) McMahon doesn't view Taker as being workable with everyone on the roster, because either he sees Taker as being such a huge name, that everyone else in return is so beneath him.. or B.) the Undertaker plain and simply sucks as a Main Event Champion.

Frankly, I'd be inclined to go with the latter, in B. I say that because when you look at the Undertaker's Championship reigns, he truly hasn't done all that much as a Champion. His first reign, he defeated Hulk Hogan and it was amazing. But quickly "mirrored" in controversy. His second reign was by far his longest, when he defeated Sid Vicious. That reign, as his longest, summed up his degree of being a Main Event Champion - Mankind, Steve Austin, (not quite big yet) Faarooq, Vader, then drops to Bret Hart.

His third reign, controversial victory over Steve Austin. Drops the title a month later. 5th reign, defeated Hogan, drops the Championship two monthes later to set up Rock to lose to Lesnar. His 6th reign, defeating Batista then gets injured. And this being his final reign, in a lengthy feud with Edge.. only.

McMahon is truthful in what he says. Edge has more star ability to face anyone from the Smackdown roster. Taker has become to big of a name, to be remotely evenly matched to face anyone from Smackdown, and if he was on Raw it'd be a better fit.

 

[Garvanko]

Taker's gimmick has never really been 'made for tv.' Its great for Pay per Views of course..

The Undertaker is a legend and transends the WWE brand split and should be one of the few wrestlers alongside HBK, Flair (before he retired) and maybe HHH who should have tri-branded contracts and appear on different shows every other week, as opposed to the current where anyone can appear on any brand regardless of the fact that they are signed on one.

These guy don't need the titles, but they can add to different fueds on any show. I like the angle HBK is doing with Batista - something similar should be done with Taker/Orton or HHH/Big Show/Kane.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Just announced on SD!. Please lord, let this be the end.

TLC match. This should be totally out of fucking control. And the stip was added that if Taker loses, he is "banished" from WWE. Which is a silly thing to say really. I really cant call this one, it could go a ton of ways. I read that Edge is a better option as champ, and I know Taker would like to have a light schedule. And I doubt they have Edge loose his own match two in a row in title matches. I honestly see Edge walking out of this as the Winner, albeit probably bleeding and near death LOL

 

[Skullz Crack'Em]

I predicted that Taker was going to RAW soon, and it is starting to look that way isn't it? It makes perfect sense, Taker gets screwed over by La Familia during the TLC match, which costs him the World Heavyweight title and his job. Teddy Long will more than likely be the new RAW GM and his first act as GM will be to bring the Undertaker on RAW, which would be his ultimate revenge on Vicki for treating him like crap. Vicki may have "banished" Undertaker from the WWE, but Teddy will probably find a loophole and say something like this: "Vicki Guerrero is only the SmackDown General Manager, she can ban Taker from SmackDown, but not the whole WWE, that is Mr. McMahon's decision, not her's. Everybody give a warm welcome to RAW's newest superstar.....The Undertaker!"

SmackDown losing The Undertaker is a huge blow, but Shawn Michaels or Chris Jericho would both be great replacements and could be Edge's next enemy that challenges him for the World title. If Taker beats Edge FOUR times in a row, than he is just as bad as Triple H in the "Burying" department.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Well, I didn't think they'd do it, but most of my predictions have been wrong for One Night Stand haha. I thought we were going to see a Casket Match.

So this is intriguing. As we've known for a long time now (but were just recently reminded of it), McMahon doesn't think Taker is the best choice for long title feuds. That gives the edge (mind the pun) to Edge to win this match. However, to counteract it, we've heard that Taker is supposed to have a long reign, which evens it out.

Now, this is a match where you can easily screw Taker and not make him look bad. All you need is for everyone to distract him while Edge climbs the ladder. That makes it easy to come up with an "everybody wins" type of booking.

Edge as the champ makes up for more feuds than Taker as champ...however...who exactly are we talking about here? There's NOBODY on Smackdown! Are we going to see Edge/Taker or Edge/Batista forever, with the occasional Edge/Mysterio match? Give me a break! At the same time, I sure as hell don't want to see Taker/Khali, Taker/Henry, Taker/Knox, Taker/Kozlov, Taker/BDV...I don't even want to see KANE do that and he's not as talented as Undertaker is. Smackdown needs the draft just as bad as Raw does (as we've only seen Cena/HHH/JBL/Orton just as long).

There's the issue of the "firing" stipulation. Would the WWE really pull TWO firings in quick succession, wherein both guys aren't really fired and show up 60 or less days later? This is also with the possibility of Vickie being fired, on top of how they "fired" Teddy! Four in a row??


Honestly, I think we aren't getting anything out of the loop here. We'll probably just see Undertaker win, burying Edge, Hawkins, and Ryder, and then having nowhere to go afterwards as nobody else has been built up as a legitimate threat to Taker recently.

If I was just saying what I'd WANT to happen, though, I'd say give it to Edge in a way that doesn't make anybody look bad. Have Undertaker do a double chokeslam on Hawkins & Ryder, throwing them from the top of the ladder through a table. Then have Edge steal the win. Edge and Taker are two of my 5 favorite wrestlers, but I'm sick and tired of this feud, so I don't want Edge to win and just have another rematch at Night of Champions with Taker coming out on top. With rumors that Punk might stay face and go to Raw, I say the best thing to do is fire Taker, draft him over to Raw with Punk, draft Cena and Jeff Hardy over to Smackdown, and there you go, you've got a bit of a balance, some fresh feuds, two people that Edge can work with (on top of Big Show, Mysterio, Batista), you keep Umaga on Raw like the Raw writers wanted (with a good Taker feud), etc.

 

[thesaw24]

Wait a second didn't we see this before but with Cena and Edge at unforgiven ya we did and Cena won ofcourse they are not going to get rid of the undertaker this time because he is succh a huge superstar but it would be huge if they did.

 

[TripleH]

Edge sucks, I don't care what anybody says. I've never liked his character at all. Name one good thing the guy has done since he has become a singles wrestler. Moving Taker over to Raw would be good. But giving Edge the title over Undertaker just makes the Undertaker look bad, and I don't care what Vince thinks. Personally I think the WWE needs to end the Brand split but that's just me.

So says the King!

 

[KingNick]

It's a good marketing strategy and it's going to get people to watch it. Any hardcore Undertaker fan knows he's not done with wrestling yet, but they still have to watch it just in case plus it probably means it's going to win.

It's going to be an amazing match. But I have to agree, they really need to mix up the feuds. It's been the same people over and over. I never liked the idea of two brands and two world titles. You can't establish a "top guy" if you have two world titles. At least with ECW they try promoting it as sort of a separate company that's run by WWE. Smackdown and Raw are just promoted as two different TV shows with different championships.

I can understand why they did the brand extension, since the WWE has so many wrestlers, but I would love to see the brands merge so we can see more interesting feuds and just have one world title to establish a "top guy". Besides, most of the top wrestlers weave in and out of both shows anyway. Undertaker, Kane, HHH, Batista, etc pretty much do whatever they want and I didn't even know which brand Big Show was on until after Wrestlemania!

 

[DeadmanInc.]

I really think Edge should win this one and have Taker drafted to Raw. If Undertaker does win and gets his long title reign, who is he going to defend his belt against? No one on Smackdown has been pushed as a legit threat towards Undertaker. The problem is, Undertaker is too legendary for Smackdown. Besides him, there are no other stars on Smackdown that can claim "legendary" status.

For the sake of Edge's main eventing career and Undertaker's long reign, Edge NEEDS to win and Taker needs to move to Raw. That way, Edge no longer looks weak and Undertaker can have a long reign as champion without having stale feuds. The only problem is, RAW is loaded with main eventers and babyfaces. Major changes have to be made to both rosters.


As for this match, I can't really see Undertaker taking any big bumps. My guess is that he will dominate most of the match with Edge taking all the big bumps.

 

[Kyphael]

Now, this is a match where you can easily screw Taker and not make him look bad. All you need is for everyone to distract him while Edge climbs the ladder.

Just pointing out that a TLC match isn't exactly like a ladder match, it ends in pinfall, nobody needs to climb the ladder to retrieve a belt. The ladder is just a weapon, like a table or a chair.

I don't see Undertaker getting drafted to RAW, he's SmackDown's biggest name, while RAW already has HBK and HHH, neither of which would willingly replace Taker on SmackDown. Undertaker has plenty of potential future challengers to his title that can be a threat to him; be a bit creative and look at the roster.

A heel Big Show.
MVP; elevate his game and have him lay out the dead man to show everyone he's a legit threat.
Umaga; he can be drafted, they've been talking about a title program between him and Undertaker since last year.
William Regal; once he returns from his suspension. Whether they'll want to resume his push or not, he is still the 2008 King of the Ring. I'm sure they'll still do something with that.
Heel Batista?

 

[DeadmanInc.]

Just pointing out that a TLC match isn't exactly like a ladder match, it ends in pinfall, nobody needs to climb the ladder to retrieve a belt. The ladder is just a weapon, like a table or a chair.

I don't see Undertaker getting drafted to RAW, he's SmackDown's biggest name, while RAW already has HBK and HHH, neither of which would willingly replace Taker on SmackDown. Undertaker has plenty of potential future challengers to his title that can be a threat to him; be a bit creative and look at the roster.

A heel Big Show.
MVP; elevate his game and have him lay out the dead man to show everyone he's a legit threat.
Umaga; he can be drafted, they've been talking about a title program between him and Undertaker since last year.
William Regal; once he returns from his suspension. Whether they'll want to resume his push or not, he is still the 2008 King of the Ring. I'm sure they'll still do something with that.
Heel Batista?

TLC doesn't end in pinfall. It's basically a ladder match with Tables and Chairs.


The problem is, no one has been built up on Smackdown as a possible title contender. MVP has been on a losing streak, same with CM Punk (not like he is even on Taker's level). Smackdown's title scene this past year has always been Edge/Batista/Taker with Rey thrown in occasionally. Batista is busy with his Shawn Michaels feud, Rey is no where near Taker's level, and a FIFTH Edge/Taker match is just getting redundant.

 

[Noif]

Allegedly Umaga's going to Smackdown though, Vince told the shareholders he was switching shows as would do 'as well as he could', if this leads to an Umaga/Taker feud, which i hope it does because Umaga's a great worker and could get the best out of Taker, then that would certainly fresehen up the Smackdown title picture

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Anyone else think, now that this stipulation basically proves that Taker is walking out the champion, that the entire match is going to end up being the Undertaker attacked by Hawkins, Ryder, Chavo, and Neely, one after another, throwing each through a table and such? Just a 20 minute collaboration of that, and then an ending similar to Cena/Edge where Edge gets thrown from the top onto a table (probably by chokeslam) and Taker wins.

 

[justinsayne]

Anyone else think, now that this stipulation basically proves that Taker is walking out the champion, that the entire match is going to end up being the Undertaker attacked by Hawkins, Ryder, Chavo, and Neely, one after another, throwing each through a table and such? Just a 20 minute collaboration of that, and then an ending similar to Cena/Edge where Edge gets thrown from the top onto a table (probably by chokeslam) and Taker wins.

That's pretty much what I figured when I heard the stipulation, personally if I was WWE, I would throw a huge curveball and have Edge win the match, then just have Taker disappear for a month or so and have come back stalking each of the members of La Familia and taking them out one by one, then at some point they could have the lights go out with Edge and Vickie in the ring, Taker's music hit and then when the lights come back on have Vickie strapped to Takers symbol above the ring and Edge laying in a pool of blood and Taker doing his little pose, this would all happen in the course of several months

 

[therockyfan316]

Vince McMahon himself made the call to strip the Undertaker of the World Title. The feeling is that Edge makes for a better champion than challenger, and that the Undertaker as champion needs great challengers. Taker vs. Batista has been done a lot, and the feeling is that Edge vs. Taker isn't a "money PPV match."

^^i seriously cant believe this and i doubt that this rumor is even true. i thought plans were to have taker to have a long reign after beating batista...and taker is their franchise star...but then again why would they strip taker...damn i dont understand vince...to me, ever since wrestlemania, wrestling's been dead...

 

[therockyfan316]

That's pretty much what I figured when I heard the stipulation, personally if I was WWE, I would throw a huge curveball and have Edge win the match, then just have Taker disappear for a month or so and have come back stalking each of the members of La Familia and taking them out one by one, then at some point they could have the lights go out with Edge and Vickie in the ring, Taker's music hit and then when the lights come back on have Vickie strapped to Takers symbol above the ring and Edge laying in a pool of blood and Taker doing his little pose, this would all happen in the course of several months

^dude that actually doesnt sound bad at all, i like the whole revenge idea...but thats too creative, more creative than anything we've seen in the past couple months...and its more edge/taker which is something im against. they cant possibly push this into fued into next year, i have a feeling mvp is going to be the next challenger for the title seeing as how he has nothing to do but come out in a suit and say hes the best

 

[Totox12]

I hope this is the concluding match in this feud as i never like to see a constant stream of one on one matches for months on end at PPV's. As always we are at least going to get a great match out of these two and I’m glad that WWE didn’t decided to make this a Hell in a Cell match as i liked the original thought behind it where only the biggest feuds would be settled in this type of match. For that to happen between these two there would have to be a much more creative twist and conflict. I do however like the whole Edge stable thing of La Familia and the way they are ruling over Smackdown with the top star of the Undertaker fighting back. However this has got old quickly with similar match booking and stream line story lines. As for Vickie Guerrero I’ve not been a fan of her being the general manager of Smackdown for a while now yet she must be doing something right at least with the huge amount of heat she is generating from the fans, similar to that of Regal on RAW recently, which we all see has now come to an end which is a shame for someone who said originally he was so determined to prove himself to be a main eventer.

As for the Undertaker vs Edge TLC match, as i said before I’m sure we are going to get a great match between these two, with Edge taking the major bump of the match and Undertaker having some stand out moments such as a possible choke slam off a ladder through tables etc, and of course expect to see interference from La Familia to help add possible suspense of how the Undertaker may possibly loose but as for the stipulation of Undertaker forever being fired no way can these happen in such a way, but i do hope WWE decided to put an end to this stripping of the title and hand it back to Undertaker for the long title run he was promised last year. This match on a side note also just adds to the Undertakers legacy as Michael Cole said, Undertaker has been in every match possible except for this one.

As for the future of possible feuds on Smackdown in the summer and later part of the year we could see a possible face off with Batista again or see the rumoured trade of Umaga to Smackdown setting up a Umaga vs Undertaker feud as rumoured for Summer Slam. I would be please seeing Umaga get more of a push with new feuds and a variety of talent he is yet to face on Smackdown and ECW. Another possible out come of course is that of William Regal being put over on Smackdown since he is now 'fired' from RAW and as General Manager. A possible feud between him self and the Undertaker may be possible with Regal claiming how he is still king and deserves better, or ending up with a possible face off with other top talent on Smackdown such as Batista, etc.

As for the far off future of the Undertakers title reign i do hope to see him eventually take on Shawn Michaels in this rumoured match at WrestleMania 25 yet i don’t see Undertaker holding on for the title that long. This could also be beneficial in making a cross brand match between the two for WrestleMania and allowing for the World Heavyweight title to still be defended on the same PPV without Undertakers involvement. This match would of course be a classic between the two with the recent battles in the Royal Rumble match the past two years, but over all i hope for a good lengthy reign for the Undertaker and the World Heavyweight championship and to see him take on various opponents in good set out story lines showcasing the talents best interest throughout the up coming months.

 

[Rusty]

Great match, great participants but a shitty stipulation. Ahh well you cant have everything I guess. Anyway, I am really looking forward to this match as I strongly believe it will be match of the night.

However, either one of them could win. But I still think Undertaker will win his World Title back and I hope this is the final match of this long and boring feud. But after this, who else does the Deadman face?? Big Show maybe? M.V.P?

Draft my friends is what we need.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

WWE appears to be watching TNA. That stipulation is terrible. The outcome was predictable as it was. But with this it takes away any drama the main event has. I only hope that the stipulation leads to something after the match has finished. Although I can't think what that would be.

I'm still not excited about it. I could take or leave this match.