Official Raw/Smackdown Aftermath, Ratings and Review Thread

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Link: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/262957-update-1022-raw-draws-lowest-rating-in-15-years

To be honest I'm not shocked at all. I've been expecting this since RAW started getting ratings below 3.

What is your opinion? Thoughts?

 

[TheChristmasCreature]

I think there was simply too much going on Monday night, especially with the presidential debate. Ratings typically dip during football season anyway, so with additional programming RAW ratings expectations must be adjusted.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

There's no question that the NLCS, MNF and the Presidential Debate had something to do with this. That said, you can't just write it off.

Raw lately has been pretty dull. CM Punk's heel turn is pretty boring at this point. He's gone from being very unpredictable on the mic, to being about as predictable as ADR.

Cena's really not even involved in anything now, except maybe some storyline with AJ

Orton...well he's working with ADR.

The tag division is alright...but personally, while Kane/Bryan are entertaining, it's getting a little oversaturating. They get almost TOO much TV time.

Most marks will blame creative. I blame everyone involved.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Reasons for low ratings :

Bad acting, too much funny segments, most wrestlers are bland, no big names on the roster leaving a few, no compelling storylines, no real wrestling and PG.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

There's no question that the NLCS, MNF and the Presidential Debate had something to do with this. That said, you can't just write it off.

Raw lately has been pretty dull. CM Punk's heel turn is pretty boring at this point. He's gone from being very unpredictable on the mic, to being about as predictable as ADR.

Cena's really not even involved in anything now, except maybe some storyline with AJ

Orton...well he's working with ADR.

The tag division is alright...but personally, while Kane/Bryan are entertaining, it's getting a little oversaturating. They get almost TOO much TV time.

Most marks will blame creative. I blame everyone involved.

You're right about the NLCS, MNF and the Presidential debate. But this is not the first time RAW has stiff competion but it certainly is the first time RAW does that bad.

We got 3 straight segments with Team Hell No. The show started with AJ and Vickie And what's the point of having people waiting in order to see a Lumberjack match at the end of the show???

 

[RAK89]

Reasons for low ratings :

Bad acting, too much funny segments, most wrestlers are bland, no big names on the roster leaving a few, no compelling storylines, no real wrestling and PG.

Agreed 100%

I was in attendance this past Monday for RAW, and I am not at all surprised by the low ratings. The show was just down right dull and lackluster at best. There wasn't really any interesting or compelling promos, most of the matches were about as predictable as you can get (with the exception of Bryan vs Ziggler). They really didn't build any of the storylines going into the PPV. Miz defeated by Ryback ... ADR defeats Ryder ... really? Is that supposed to make me want to see them fight at the PPV? Why wasn't Orton there to build for his feud ... why was the Miz squashed, is that supposed to make him look like a threat to Kingston?

I was bored and ready to go home before the end of the 2nd hour. A lot of people seated around me left well before the end of the show, and there were even a few people that fell asleep.

They should really go back to the 2 hour RAW format and focus on making it a solid 2 hours rather then trying to kill time with boring fillers like the "Newly Tag Game". That was just a complete waste of time.

Kane vs Big Show was a boring slow match that no one in the audience cared about seeing.

Del Rio is done. No one cares about him at all. The crowd could have cared less about him making Ryder tap out. It was embarassing to watch and not at all entertaining.

I have tickets to the show in December when RAW returns to Newark NJ, and I am just praying that they put on a much better show then because this past week's show was just downright boring.

 

[Nada]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmy View Post
As you have stated there are many reasons as to the decline of WWE RAW rating but the one major one is something that takes place during the fall every year....MONDAY NIGHT FOOBALL!!! Let's not kid ourselves, the NFL is the most popular sport on the planet

How can one post contain so much wrong, NFL the most popular sport on the planet? Yeah if the planet consist only of USA and its 300 million inhabitants, last time i checked it didnt. Football, aka "soccer" is the most popular sport in the world. It has been for the past 60-70 years. American football aka NFL is most likely not even in top 5 most popular sports in the world, let alone the most popular. What you said is absolutely insane on every level. It is like saying Justin Gabriel is the greatest sports entertainer of all time with a straight face

NFL has also always been on, when RAW got decent, bad, great, superb and shit ratings, through it all NFL was always there.

By saying "oh the rating is piss poor cause of NFL!" is basically trying to say that NFL before 2012 never existed, its this new league man, new thing, recently launched, newest sport in the world!

Rating sucks because RAW sucks, without Cena who knows what the bottom for this company and their flagship show really is, most likely high 1.8-1.9s. As much i dislike Cena, he is the only superstar on that show

 

[Sid Schmid]

How can one post contain so much wrong, NFL the most popular sport on the planet? Yeah if the planet consist only of USA and its 300 million inhabitants, last time i checked it didnt. Football, aka "soccer" is the most popular sport in the world. It has been for the past 60-70 years. American football aka NFL is most likely not even in top 5 most popular sports in the world, let alone the most popular. What you said is absolutely insane on every level. It is like saying Justin Gabriel is the greatest sports entertainer of all time with a straight face

NFL has also always been on, when RAW got decent, bad, great, superb and shit ratings, through it all NFL was always there.

By saying "oh the rating is piss poor cause of NFL!" is basically trying to say that NFL before 2012 never existed, its this new league man, new thing, recently launched, newest sport in the world!

Rating sucks because RAW sucks, without Cena who knows what the bottom for this company and their flagship show really is, most likely high 1.8-1.9s. As much i dislike Cena, he is the only superstar on that show

NFL the most popular sport on the planet??? Typical ridiculous american thing to say, no wonder I'm a massive fan of Cessaro!

Raw would be a more entertaining three hours if they devoted more time to wrestling. Stupid game shows are not interesting. That 10 minute segment could've been replaced by a good tag match or a couple of up and coming athletes time to show what they could do. They could have put Tyson Kidd against Drew McIntyre instead of the crap they did put on.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Ratings are going to massively suffer when you throw an anomaly like 59 million American vierers watching the presidential debates. Throw in an NFL game with competitors from two major pro wrestling markets (Chicago and Detroit - also teams with some significant Fantasy implications) and a pennant game 7 and WWE is lucky anyone watched the show at all.

Overall an average of 3.5 million viewers per hour watching over the span of 3 hours is 10.5 million hours of wrestling viewed. That's 1.5 million more hours viewed than the old 2 hour Raws that average 4.5 million viewers. Throw on top of that the growing use of DVRs and the internet plus Main Event, SD, Superstars, paid attendance, Universal HD reruns, merchandising, and PPVs and I would say that the rating 'is what it is' and that there is a lot more to think about.

The show did kind of stink but I blame that on me watching it in about an hour on the DVR and focusing my interests on the poor execution of the AJ storyline while clicking over to MNF and the POTUS debate. The tag match was excellent, Dolph/DB was good, and the main event was fine. I even liked Taglywed Game or whatever it was called. Still, somehow I just did not enjoy the show. Seems lately I like one week and dislike the next. Oh well maybe I have a two week 'man'strual cycle, I'll still probably be back for next week to see the fallout of HIAC and see how SS is shaping up.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

The fundamental problem with RAW ratings is that its a show trying to target a younger demographic (8 to 12 year olds?), but they're in an adult time slot.

RAW runs until midnight in Canada. 11pm I think in the US. What 8-12 year old is staying up this late? Of course they're going to lose ratings, especially in the last hour.

Now there are a lot of other factors (NFL, Debate, World Series) for sure that are out of their control. And some legit flaws in the show like lack of star power and repetitive stories, that are very much in their control.

But I don't see the ratings bouncing back until they change their timeslot to suit their target audience or change their product to fit their timeslot.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

By the way I'm a huge CM Punk fan, but they've managed to make him repetitive, bland and boring as all hell. He's become the generic uninteresting heel to John Cena's generic uninteresting face.

I can't bring myself to be interested at all in Vickie Guerrero or AJ.

Bryan/Kane has probably run its course. It's been interesting but never been very funny. They need to take the next step in the story, and start teasing the split.

Ryback is being pushed too far too soon, in my opinion. Give him the IC title. I don't know why his matches with The Miz weren't for the belt. Or put him in the World Heavy Weight title picture, since that's clearly the secondary World title, anyways.

Randy is never around. Edge is gone. Mysterio is injured most of the time.

I have no idea what else even happens on the show? Hard to imagine them filling 3 hours.

And you expect to draw ratings over the NFL or World Series with this?

 

[jaskull]

So Raw just started, (I'll admit with my work schedule i will probably only watch first 2hrs live then finish off dvr tomorrow) but seriously am I watching Raw or Impact "Previously on Raw" with an voice over recap the episode was waiting for the guy to start talking about another member of Aces & 8's was unmasked. Someone calls out Vince about being out of touch so now two weeks in a row with flat out Impact rip offs. At least when Impacts run a storyline like one from wwe they go with something old not a month or so previous.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I loved the segment. It was the type of thing WWE almost never does; giving a nobody the chance to prove himself on center stage. His performance was amazing; he used nervous gestures to depict himself as an uncertain young man who's been trying for years to get a shot at the big time. He kept pausing, timing the audience response, yet picking up the dialogue again before he could lose them. Yes, he came off as a novice, but that's what he really is....and how he was supposed to appear. I couldn't hear his voice, but even reading his lips convinced me the guy was displaying some genuine emotion..... after all, this must have been the first time he had an opportunity to perform solo in major league circumstances, right?

But the skit was further made unique by the fact that although we see many such performances involving WWE superstars, in all the others you know the person's employment is going to continue no matter what happens with the vignette, right? With a Zack Ryder, for instance, they can make it seem as if Kane's attack has Ryder at death's door, but we know he's still employed by the company and will be making a miraculous recovery soon enough. With Brad Maddox, we don't know any such thing. He might be a permanent hire......or he may be gone after next Monday.

From there, the segment with Vince McMahon was terrific, too. Instead of a bunch of useless announcements, Vince made an appearance that had a definite purpose; the offer by a true promoter to the talent who was asking for the chance: Put up or shut up. Just the type of thing Vince has always been good at.

In addition, the segment between Vince and Vickie Guerrero was great, a better use of her "talents" than we are usually treated to. I enjoyed the way Vince had her giggling like an adolescent as he railroaded her into making management decisions he wanted.....as if he needed her to make them in the first place. But the teasing notion that he didn't want to usurp her authority made for a very entertaining routine. Then, of course, the bit with Punk, Dolph and Vickie in which she made a tag match neither man with her wanted.....but one that would have pleased Mr. McMahon. Leaves you wondering what the future holds for some of these characters, no?

If you are one of the folks who thinks Creative never comes up with new stuff, remember the Maddox-McMahon-Vickie segment and realize that Creative is perfectly capable of bringing us great theater. It was a genuine pleasure to see.




NOTE: Where in the blue hell was McIntyre? His group appears but he doesn't? How could he do this to me?

 

[lil bitch Kid]

McIntyre couldn't be there.....They want 3MB to be heels and if your stick anyone from even close to England out there, they'll get cheered. It was the right call.

I posted aomewhere else, but it got deleted so.....I ask: Is it me, or does Maddox look more like a Bischoff that Garrett Bischoff does?

 

[ECWcyrus]

McIntyre wasn't there because of personal issues he was attending. He mentioned it on his twitter I think.

As far as the Brad Maddox promo goes, I enjoyed it. I really see potential in Maddox and it's one of the few things going in WWE that i'm interested in. Hoping they don't find a way to screw things up.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I enjoyed Raw last night and thought the show was very solid all around.

A lot of people were complaining, as usual, about the Survivor Series match last week and the fact that there was no WWE Championship match for the event. So, WWE shook things up and made big changes. Team Punk is now Team Ziggler with Miz quitting the team altogether to start the show off with. Team Ziggler now consists of Ziggler as captain with team members Alberto Del Rio, Team Rhodes Scholars and Wade Barrett. The WWE Championship match is a triple threat match with Punk defending against Cena & Ryback. I was personally fine with the card as it was but it did seem weird not having a WWE Championship match on the card.

Wrestling as a whole on the show was also solid with the tag team division again getting a lot of love on this week's show. The opening six man match was a fun 11 minute outing. Cesaro looked great in there and had really good chemistry with all three of the faces. Truth scoring the win pretty much locks him in for a title match at Survivor Series against Cesaro.

Bryan vs. Rhodes had only gotten started but the Birmingham crowd was red hot for Bryan. Kane vs. Sandow wasn't all that good as it seemed mostly like a squash match. I just didn't buy into it because Sandow is a guy that took Sheamus to the limit several weeks ago in a great 18 minute match on Raw. However, I do like the storytelling that went into these matches. They've been going with a "weak link" scenario to keep tensions between Bryan & Kane up. Kane wins while Bryan loses but the reason why Bryan loses is because Kane, without meaning to, provides a distraction for Bryan when he's trying to help. Kane seems to win because Bryan either doesn't get involved, is sent to the back or is able to function as a buffer to keep someone from interfering with Kane's matches.

I enjoyed the Maddox segment and thought he did a good job. At least, I'm hoping he did a good job. He seemed nervous out there, like he was in a position that he isn't at all used to. If that was him acting, then it was a damn good job. If he got out there and was legitimately freezing up, then the guy needs a lot of work. I thought Maddox's explanation made sense and kept Punk off the hook. With Ryback being huge right now, Maddox did something that got the wrestling world talking about him. Stating that he wanted a contract and to face Ryback was something of a surprise. I thought they might drag this out over the course of several weeks or something and I'm glad they didn't. Vince stating that he'll give Maddox a million dollar contract if he beats Ryback on Raw next week is something of an interesting hook. Again, Maddox did well in his role out there tonight. If he was acting, then it was a good first impression in my eyes. He didn't try to come off as some ultra cocky guy that's angry at the world because he felt that he didn't get his "shot". That's been done too much so it was refreshing that Maddox was more "normal" in the sense that he seemed to not be playing a character.

Sheamus vs. The Miz was a strong three star match. I don't think the end was ever really in doubt, but it was still a good match all the same. Big Show did a good job on commentary at putting himself over as a confident & dominant heel champion and hyping their return match.

The Divas tag match was pretty decent. Aksana needs a lot of work but she's extremely hot. The hot crowd didn't care much for this and I think that's going to be the problem with the Divas. Even though there's an actual storyline and they're getting some decent wrestling time on television, people just don't seem to care.

Kofi Kingston vs. Alberto Del Rio was a pretty solid match. It could've been much better but, in the end, they surprised me by giving Kofi a needed win over Del Rio while simultaneously keeping things up for the Orton vs. Del Rio match on SD! tonight. I was pleased to see Kofi get the win. He needed it here and it keeps his momentum going.

Team CoBro vs. Epico & Primo was a decent 5 minute tag match. Nothing particularly great, but it gave Team CoBro a win and the comedy stuff with Santino was pretty minimal.

Brodus Clay vs. Wade Barrett was ok while it lasted, again nothing great. Barrett received a massive pop and he looked good getting the clean win over Brodus.

Heath Slater vs. Jey Uso was, again, just a decent 4 to 5 minute match with Slater scoring a clean win. I'm still not sure ultimately what to think about 3MB right now. It's interesting, yet there's an underlying sense that it's going to be a train wreck when it's all said and done.

The main event of Punk & Ziggler vs. Ryback & Cena was a perfectly executed 10.5 minute main event that ultimately gave Ryback a ton of momentum. Punk & Ziggler worked over Cena through the vast majority of the match while Ryback was waiting for the tag. The hot crowd's anticipation was building and they exploded when Ryback got the hot tag. He took out Ziggler before ultimately getting the win over Punk with Shell Shock. The staredown between Punk & Ryback afterward was a great touch in my opinion as Cena's expression quickly morphed from one of happiness to one of concern. It seemed that he fully realized that he has to go through Ryback as well if he wants to be WWE Champion again. Also, Ryback just did something that Cena has been unable to do in almost 1.5 years: score a legit & decisive victory over CM Punk in any sort of match.

For me, last night's show was a B+. It featured, overall, strong wrestling content, solid storyline progression and great hype for Survivor Series.

 

[amc1350]

best raw in a while,,probably cos it was here in uk,,,good follow up from last weeks smackdown,,it was needed after another poor raw 29/10/2012

 

[Jack-Hammer]

NOTE: Where in the blue hell was McIntyre? His group appears but he doesn't? How could he do this to me?

McIntyre is staying with his mother right now as she's extremely sick. He posted this on Twitter:

For those who know me, they are aware I'm not the most emotional person in the world but this is something that as private as it is I want to share with the world because I am so lucky and proud. My mother is currently very ill and if you have the time please send a prayer her way, she has battled through ataxia since her early 20s being told she would never have children to raising my brother and I to the men we are today. She has overcame so many obstacles thrown her way over her life not selling the pain for one moment putting everyone else first including battling through chemo and radiotherapy.
Sitting with her now I can still see fight in her eyes, she is Angela Galloway, my mother and my hero. I wrote this to her when she got sick, again please keep her in your thoughts and prayers.

My Hero

Me hero isn't a singer, nor on tv.

My hero dosent play sports or rally to make the world a better place.

My hero is a warrior, as strong as Atlas and as brave as a soldier in the trenches.

My hero has looked at adversity their entire life and overcame with no doubt in their mind,
NEVER taking heed of others opinions, powering through when others would have simply given up.

My hero inspires me when I think I can't handle what life throws at me.

My hero is my mum and no matter where I travel or who I meet there isn't a person on earth like her

I got sad reading that. As a wrestler, I'm sure McIntyre doesn't get to spend as much time with or see his family, especially his mother, as much as he'd like. When I was in college, I was always a little worried that something would happen to my mom and that I wouldn't be there or wouldn't get a chance to say goodby.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I Heath Slater vs. Jey Uso was, again, just a decent 4 to 5 minute match with Slater scoring a clean win. I'm still not sure ultimately what to think about 3MB right now. It's interesting, yet there's an underlying sense that it's going to be a train wreck when it's all said and done.

3MB, or in this case 2, got a pretty big pop it sounded like on TV. To me, 3MB is enjoybable in a way that reminds me of "Dashing" Cody Rhodes. They go out there and make themselves look like asses, but they own it. And they do a good job of owning it.

 

[Wrestling101]

Does anyone else think Barrett is going to be or can be a great tweener real soon? Ever since he debuted, he's always played the part of tweener and not caring if who he's talking to is face or heel, he's always looking out for himself. I hope he keeps getting booked correctly (not that he is at this moment, but I'm guessing they're holding back on giving him a big push like he deserves because there's just no room for him at the moment at the very top.....I'm guessing after WM and some of these other storylines play out, he's going to be given a run, as a tweener, as WWE champion on RAW).


I initially hated the way WWE went with Maddox's explanation and it just seemed like it was the easiest and corniest way out, but I like Maddox's character and I liked McMahon's teasing that he thinks Heyman and Punk are still involved with it. I'm hoping they book it next week for Maddox to end up getting the win after some Punk inteference, maybe Cena comes out to counter Punk but Cena ends up costing Ryback...or maybe Ryback just destroys everybody and ends up getting DQed.....Ryback wouldn't look weak, and since there's no streak to worry about, all you have to protect is Ryback looking strong instead of worrying about protecting a win.....

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Does anyone else think Barrett is going to be or can be a great tweener real soon? Ever since he debuted, he's always played the part of tweener and not caring if who he's talking to is face or heel, he's always looking out for himself. I hope he keeps getting booked correctly (not that he is at this moment, but I'm guessing they're holding back on giving him a big push like he deserves because there's just no room for him at the moment at the very top.....I'm guessing after WM and some of these other storylines play out, he's going to be given a run, as a tweener, as WWE champion on RAW).

Barrett is a straight up heel. There's no tweener about it. That said, I was surprised at the reaction he got yesterday. Not that he got cheered some, but to the extent he got cheered. You'd have thought a complete babyface walked out there.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I loved the segment. It was the type of thing WWE almost never does; giving a nobody the chance to prove himself on center stage. His performance was amazing; he used nervous gestures to depict himself as an uncertain young man who's been trying for years to get a shot at the big time. He kept pausing, timing the audience response, yet picking up the dialogue again before he could lose them. Yes, he came off as a novice, but that's what he really is....and how he was supposed to appear. I couldn't hear his voice, but even reading his lips convinced me the guy was displaying some genuine emotion..... after all, this must have been the first time he had an opportunity to perform solo in major league circumstances, right?

But the skit was further made unique by the fact that although we see many such performances involving WWE superstars, in all the others you know the person's employment is going to continue no matter what happens with the vignette, right? With a Zack Ryder, for instance, they can make it seem as if Kane's attack has Ryder at death's door, but we know he's still employed by the company and will be making a miraculous recovery soon enough. With Brad Maddox, we don't know any such thing. He might be a permanent hire......or he may be gone after next Monday.

I agree that the concept was great but I also feel the execution was poor. His discomfort was more hopeless jerk than Peter Parker. It dragged too much. It doesn't help that when I look at Maddox I can't see him as someone that has any future with the company as a wrestler. If I can't believe he has any future with the company then I can't care about seeing him stand deviant in the ring or face Ryback or become a millionaire with one win. It could make for some quality TV in the future but not with that guy. He reminds me more of the jobbers Ryback was fed at the start and not a legit super star.

From there, the segment with Vince McMahon was terrific, too. Instead of a bunch of useless announcements, Vince made an appearance that had a definite purpose; the offer by a true promoter to the talent who was asking for the chance: Put up or shut up. Just the type of thing Vince has always been good at.

In addition, the segment between Vince and Vickie Guerrero was great, a better use of her "talents" than we are usually treated to. I enjoyed the way Vince had her giggling like an adolescent as he railroaded her into making management decisions he wanted.....as if he needed her to make them in the first place. But the teasing notion that he didn't want to usurp her authority made for a very entertaining routine. Then, of course, the bit with Punk, Dolph and Vickie in which she made a tag match neither man with her wanted.....but one that would have pleased Mr. McMahon. Leaves you wondering what the future holds for some of these characters, no?

If you are one of the folks who thinks Creative never comes up with new stuff, remember the Maddox-McMahon-Vickie segment and realize that Creative is perfectly capable of bringing us great theater. It was a genuine pleasure to see.

Totally agree with this. McMahon was great last night. He was a smug bully but he acted that way to people who deserve it and it had humor mixed in. Vicky's reactions were vert well done as well.

Bad actor awards go to CM Punk for his backstage reaction with Vicky and Dolph and Dolph for his ridiculous selling. Soccer players don't flop nearly as obvious as Dolph.

NOTE: Where in the blue hell was McIntyre? His group appears but he doesn't? How could he do this to me?

I heard he was back in the states learning how to play the triangle.

Good Raw last night after two lackluster weeks. Decent if not good ring action. Vicky/Cena/AJ is still intolerable but I can't just FF through it for some reason. I'm probably going to end up liking it for some sadistic reason. I don't really care for traditional SS matches so the change doesn't bother me at all. The definite highlight was the Ryback-Cena staredown at the end.

Right now you could sell me a Ryback-Cena main event at WM.

 

[Wrestling101]

Barrett is a straight up heel. There's no tweener about it. That said, I was surprised at the reaction he got yesterday. Not that he got cheered some, but to the extent he got cheered. You'd have thought a complete babyface walked out there.

About last night, the reaction he got didn't surprise me.....I was wondering how they would book him and whether they would try to get him heat or let the fans react how they want. If you think cities here in the US are homers for their own (like Punk in Chicago), in other countries fans are 10 times more homers, as they should be.

I disagree about him being a straight up heel. WWE may be trying to book him as such in matches, and he talks like a heel in promos (especially when talking about a specific opponent), but in backstage segmenst, he's always come off as a tweener. When he debuted and Sheamus was the heel champion, no, he didn't outright attack Sheamus, but he made it clear that his eye was on the belt and WWE teased a Sheamus/Barrett confrontation. Can't remember who else was the heel champion (maybe Jericho?....not sure right now), but he did the same thing. And now with Punk, again, same thing. He doesn't totally align with whoever is playing the heel like other heels. He lets it be known he's about himself (which, in and of itself, is a heel move, but Wade has no problem telling a clear cut heel that the current champion is only holding the belt until Wade takes it).....I think WWE could and should explore this side of Wade more over the next year.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I give Raw a D-. It was just so boring to me. The Cena/AJ stuff was terrible. Rhodes Scholars and Hell No did the same exact thing that PTP and Mysteriocara did on Smackdown Friday night. Cole trying to explain the Truth/Cesaro feud was just embarrassing because he said they've been feuding a couple of weeks and then said something about them Touting the past seven days. Just shows another example of lazy booking.

The Brad Maddox segment was alright but then it just fell off a cliff for me when Vince appeared. I don't know why they changed the main event but if they were so afraid of having few matches on the card, why not just have PTP on Team Punk and Mysteriocara on Team Foley. That way you could have a tag team match on the card as well. You had something interesting in Punk vs. Mick even though Mick wasn't going to wrestle. Now, that's shot down the drain and now it's Team Ziggler vs. Team Foley. I'll pass on that one.

Barrett got a nice pop which was good to see and the main event was average as I would have liked to have Ziggler take the pin. I forgot what else happened on Raw but it probably was nothing.

 

[suttree]

Jack hammer -

I dont know if you are getting paid in some way by the WWE machine, but reading some of your reviews it sure feels like it sometimes.

This show(outside of a decent opening) offered absolute confusion. So Foley formed his team because he wanted to show Punk what "respect" means(nevermind how random and unfocused their "feud" has been going), but now with Punk and Ryback out of the match, that team doesnt even make sense anymore.

Also, Wade barrett agrees and joins Heymans team at SS, but adds he owes him a favor. We later learn Punk is no longer on that team, so what does that segment even mean?

Honestly, this show had all the potential to be great(hot crowd, decent matches on paper) but all they got was short, unsubstantial matches(or long boring ones like Miz vs Sheamus which was chinlock city, or botchy ones like the divas) and weird to embarrassing booking all around. No wonder they felt so deflated after DB vs Rhodes ended so abruptly.