Not really I don't think Triple H slept his way to the top nice try putting words into my mouth you made a habit of it in your "response".
I'm just stating my opinion and it's not really putting words in your mouth so much as stating what I thought about you at the time.
Your probably the same kind of hypocrite that says the IWC only makes up 5 percent of the audience yet can be louder than the other 95 % see next.
No. But I know enough to know that a lot of the IWC wants impossible things and big changes overnight that just won't happen. Now this next part isn't saying you feel this way but in general this is what I see all over these forums :
- End the Brandsplit/Unify all the titles
- Cena sucks and only has 5 moves
- A ton of Triple H hate
Edge is over-rated he has had one solid feud and it was with Cena that's it other than that he is always injured and his gimmick is stale when it started in 2005 it was good now it's not. Conveniently you ignored almost all of the points I made that were indisputable here's where it started.
Edge....one solid feud? Have you been watching wrestling for the last 10 - 15 years? He's been apart of some awesome feuds throughout his career. He was apart of an awesome three way feud with the Dudley's and Hardy's some years ago. Not too mention more recently the Rated RKO feud with DX that ended early due to Triple H's injury. Sure he has been injured a few times but that by no means makes him overrated. Hell even his mini-feud with Kurt causing Kurt to have his head shaved was good.
I never said HBK was over-rated I said I have no respect for all the times he dogs it and he obviously doesn't have much friends backstage. I think he is one of the best in ring workers on the planet I just have issues with his Morales, Lest we forget it took good old Shawn a decade to man up and admit his part in the Montreal incident after making lots of money exploiting it in books. Having said that he is better than Orton right now in ring wise for sure and can cut a better promo. But Orton is only 29 the youngest main eventer i wrestling and will improve watch and learn he will be on your screen for the next decade.
Actially you did call him overrated. Your exact words were :
Edge is the most over-rated worker in the E and HBK is right up their as well
He can only improve if they change his booking. Hopefully last night culminates in a good feud with Kofi and hopefully Randy helps build and establish Kofi. These feud coule possibly help freshen up Orton's career as he won't be involved with Triple H, Cena, HBK, or Batista.
Also Shawn owning up the screwjob has nothing to do with him being overrated. If you were Shawn Michaels would you have owned up to it right away? Would you come right out and say " I screwed Bret Hart. "
I never shit on Cena's reigns you have a bad habit of putting words into my mouth did you even read my post I don't like insulting people on these boards but you are really testing me.
You certainly made it seem like you were shitting on him and the fact that he is a 7 time champion. As I said Orton is right behind him and half of his reigns came in the last year alone.
Your making excuses for Cena here who wouldn't want him to be like SCSA and the Rock they were more over than Cena can ever dream of being.
I'm not making excuses for Cena. Yeah they were over and maintain wrestling as a part of the mainstream media for years. Who wouldn't want him to be like SCSA and the Rock? Shall we take a vote? Make a poll? How many comparisons have we seen on these forums of Cena/Orton to them? Sure I was one of the ones who made that mistake but I quickly realized I was wrong.
Great insight on Orton here I see you say he is "shit" twice while claiming I said he was the best heel I said he will eventually be wow you are not a sound reader are you ?
I said Y2J and the Undertaker were better than Orton god your an idiot you don't read do you have a disability Dyslexia maybe ? You pretty much made up your own version of my post.
I'm just making the point that unless they change his booking he will not be one of the greatest. This gimmick he has will grow to be stale as it already is becoming less entertaining to people.
And yes I basically said what you said. Therefore I
AGREED with that part. Or did you miss that?
Most people firmly believe the first two Cena-HHH matches sucked and I agree wholeheartedly with the masses. Triple H still has what he always had the ability to be solid but not spectacular steady but not outsanding. His last good match was in 2004 with HBK and Benoit his matches with Cena have all sucked they are all boring except for the close finishes which mask the overall lack of cohesiveness Cena and Triple H have.
Well that's where we differ yet again. I feel that personally those matches were quite good and I rather enjoyed them. They put on quite the show. Similar to when Cena and Michaels wrestled for nearly an hour in London. It should be interesting to see the Survivor Series match.
Orton's ironman match last night >than any HHH match since 2004.
No. Just no. It was a great ironman match but it was not better then the matches Triple H has had in the past 5 years. Funny how you forget that he had those three great matches with Batista in 2005 where he helped establish Batista and turn him into a main eventer. His latest feud and matches with Legacy were pretty good too. Better then the matches we've seen from Orton this past year. I will say the Ironman Match was good but it was not that good.
Like every other main eventer challenging the Undertaker hasn't done that next.
Yeah Orton is better than Batista by the length of the great wall of China. Nice insertion at the end though implying Batista's heel turn could make him better ah blind hatred.
Blind hatred? WTF? Whose putting words in mouths now? I never said I didn't like Batista therefore how is this hatred? I quite enjoy Batista. But even I can admit Orton is better then him. And I was saying that we've never seen Batista as a heel on his own so it should be interesting to see how it turns out for him.
OK that's your opinion and I respect it, I find that you either think Randy Orton is the best at what he does like me or think he is the worst there really is no middle ground on him.
Well judging by Raw tonight you will get your wish Ted was still being Orton's guy as was Cody so it most likely will happen at WM 26.
I respect your opinion too but you're wrong. I don't think Orton is the best or the worst. I think he is a good wrestler with a case of bad booking. As many people have said on these forums, he needs to have his gimmick revamped. Make him less psychotic and boring to people. They need to find a mesh between the Legend Killer/Viper gimmick. Then he would be gold I believe.
Overall you pretty much put words into my mouth the entire post and twisted my post around so you would actually have a point you really didn't do anything besides point out the obvious either.
I feel I didn't twist anything. I just took your post and tore it down for what it was. I simply was stating my opinion on what you said, nothing more, nothing less.
I guess we will agree to disagree.
Guess so.
