No Way Out 2009: World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber:

[TheOneBigWill]

World Heavyweight Championship: Elimination Chamber: John Cena (c) v. Chris Jericho v. Rey Mysterio v. Kofi Kingston v. Mike Knox v. Kane​

At the Royal Rumble it was announced that at this year's No Way Out Pay per view, the return of the Elimination Chamber would feature a historical night in which both the World Heavyweight, as well as the W.W.E. Championships would be on the line. This is the thread for the World Heavyweight Championship match.

As it stands, Kofi Kingston defeated Kane to earn a spot, Rey Mysterio defeated William Regal to earn a spot, and Chris Jericho defeated C.M. Punk to earn a spot. With John Cena being the current Champion, and an automatic entrant, that leaves two spots left.

It could be fairly easy to assume John 'Bradshaw' Layfield and Shawn Michaels could easily both find their way into the Chamber to fill out the bigger named Main Eventers, but I'm going to take a wild guess and assume neither will actually get in.

With Kofi Kingston earning a spot, it definately seems like they're using the Raw Brand's Elimination Chamber to boost their younger talent. Because of that, mixed with C.M. Punk already (apparently) eliminated from entry.. I would assume the following Wrestlers are options to fill the final two spots.

John Morrison: Someone mentioned it in the general No Way Out thread, and I tend to agree. John Morrison (along with The Miz) is being pushed majorly right now.

They have almost all but been removed from E.C.W., and are mainstays on the Raw brand now. John Morrison is a former E.C.W. Heavyweight Champion, and could arguably get a mild sized push, beginning inside this structure.

While I don't consider anyone to win this outside of John Cena, I could see Morrison putting on a good showing.

The Miz: I could easily say "see Morrison" but the fact is, I don't see Miz in the same light. He's good, he's grown, but he isn't what I'd consider ready for a sudden Heavyweight Championship push. Not to the degree that Morrison could be.

Still, I could see The Miz gaining entry if nothing else to fill a final spot, and even especially if Morrison gets in, to form a type of duo Team and run through until the end when John Cena would have to overcome the two on one assault.

Ted DiBiase &/or Cody Rhodes: Randy Orton is all but guaranteed his Heavyweight title shot at WrestleMania. So why wouldn't he expect, if not demand, his two Legacy teammates to enter into the Chamber and attempt softening up John Cena before their showdown?

Obviously if both were to enter, they would work as partners, and likely we could see a similar outcome like when Carlito & Chris Masters went through their Chamber match in 2005.

Mystery Opponent: It's a pure wild assumption, but if Christian is returning.. how big of a shock would it be, for Christian to return in the Raw side of things instead of everyone's assumed Smackdown return.

J.B.L. or Shawn Michaels: I mentioned not seeing either being involved in the Chamber. And that's because I could see them feuding in a single's match, in the mid-card of No Way Out.

But, what if their match had a special stipulation that the winner would earn a last spot inside the Chamber, for later that night. Shawn Michaels is a showman, and does have the ability to go the distance, especially if that "last spot" happens to be the last entry into the Chamber (randomly, of course) as well.

I could definately see this happening. Just to fill a spot.

What are your thoughts and opinions on this match-up? Please give reasons for why you post what you do. DO NOT just list names. Add why you think they'd be in. DO NOT just say who you think would win or lose. Add depth and explain why. Thank You.

 

[ztwhite]

It is entirely possible that there will be a last chance qualifying match which has been done in the past.

That allows for someone like Punk, Regal, Kane or a yet to be named superstar to get inside Hell's playground.

 

[Rated TKE]

i think the only way christian would be in that match is if he was win it, and i dont think thats going to happen, instead i think he will be in the mitb match at mania. and as for the raw chamber match i think that the last two spots will be someone from ecw like morrison and maybe like someone else said a last chance with all of the raw roster in there, but no matter we all know cena is gonna win to set up an orton cena wm match and orton will finally beat cena one and one and become the world champ

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

In my opinion, the WWE should take advantage of the situation and really give the fans something fresh. We all know that Cena is going to retain. There's a 99.9999999% chance that he will - unless of course he suddenly was injured. So if the fans are going into it already expecting Cena to win, they won't be pumped up, so take advantage and don't waste HBK/JBL in it. Make JBL and HBK have their singles match to end their feud and use those other two spots for either Morrison/Miz or Rhodes/DiBiase.

Storyline-wise, it makes more sense for Rhodes and DiBiase to be involved as that would allow Cena to look dominant over Orton's backup crew. However, if you REALLY think about it, that's the worse option between the two. Orton/Cena is going to have a long time to build up, and between that time period of No Way Out and WrestleMania, they can't do Orton versus Cena on any episodes of Raw. So to do that, they're gonna be drilling us nonstop with Cena vs Rhodes and Cena vs DiBiase. I frankly don't want to see Cena destroy them in the Elimination Chamber as well as for 6 weeks straight on Raw.

So to combine that with the "take advantage of the fans expecting Cena to win" thing, go with Morrison and Miz. Best thing for them is to use this EC match to elevate their stars, and who better than John Morrison to be the last man standing to face Cena? That way, if he's allowed to put on a good show (like entering #1 or 2 and lasting to the end) then you've got a prime set-up for him to be the next Money in the Bank winner, as you've just had him almost win the world title on the previous ppv. Miz having a good showing allows him to become a serious threat to Punk's Intercontinental title. And then think about what kind of a massive push THAT would be for the two: Morrison and Miz come out both holding Slammy awards, both holding tag team titles, Miz with the IC belt and Morrison with the MITB case. Imagine how much they can get out of it. They could have a promo that builds them up so much that the fans just keep booing constantly:

Here are John Morrison and the Miz: the Guru of Greatness...the Grand Mizard of Lust...the A-List Elitist...the Monk of Mojo...the Monday Night Delight...the Real Deal Sex Appeal...the Shaman of Sexy...the Chick Magnet....2x tag team champions...the greatest tag team of the 21st century...your Intercontinental champion...Mr. Money in the Bank............BE JEALOUS.

Haha. That would take SO long that the fans would just be stunned that it keeps going and going and going. Great heel heat. The Elimination Chamber is a perfect opportunity to set those two up and give them a foothold to get their push going.

 

[Starchild]

While I agree that they appear to be focusing on some younger talent in Raw's EC match, I think at least one of the other two is going to be an established main eventer. The inclusion of Kofi in this match was an absolute shock to me...perhaps just testing the waters and seeing how he does in such a high profile match at such a young age.

But as far as the other two, I agree with Big Will's possibilities other than Christian. I think the only way he is in is if he wins it, which he won't.
So for one, I could definitely see some sort of last chance battle royal where all the losers from this past week plus some others are in and Punk wins that to get in, again going with the focus on the young talent..not to mention having the IC champion in Raw's world title match, which is always a good idea.
I could also see Morrison being in this because I think his push is coming soon..possibly as early as WM. MiTB win perhaps???
Priceless also makes sense like was said in an attempt to soften up Cena for Orton. And I think this is the only option for not having a vet in one of the last two spots as well.

So my picks for the last two would be either Priceless, or some combination of either Kane, JBL, or Michaels and either Punk or Morrison.

 

[imagekmcl]

Here's my thought you have a feud like JBL/HBK going on use it, JBL wants to go to Wrestlemania as the Champion he has one last desperate chance to do that by getting in to the EC. Stephanie also offers it to HBK because he never had an official match for the spot he wrestled for JBL so he gets in then JBL gets in off of a last chance battle royal or something beating Kane, Regal and Punk he gets in. Then JBL and HBK's feud stays he tells HBK to put him over to get the title and it's his last chance to make it the big paycheck and everyone thinks that might happen. Then HBK turns on JBL and it sets up a good match for them at Wrestlemaina cause lets face it HBK is MR. Wrestlemania and JBL needs a good storyline. That is my prediction.

 

[wrestlingfan701]

As long as the last 2 guys in the Raw chamber match are HBK and Punk then it will be far better than the Smackdown chamber match just because the smaller guys will be able to put on a way better show than Taker, HHH, Big Show or Kozlov. Anyone want to dispute this? Although it will probably be HBK and JBL (obviously) just because of their current storyline, yawn. Honestly, how many great spots can they do with 4 huge guys, Jeff Hardy (who can ONLY wrestle a high flying style) and Edge? Yeah, maybe a Jeff spot from the top of a chamber again like last year. The big guys could fall on the steel outside or someone could be thrown through the 'glass', it's all been done before. What else could they do? And I'm willing to bet right now that either Big Show or Kozlov will be eliminated by someone after almost everyone's finisher, there's sometimes one big guy that gets their ass handed to them in some chambers. In the first chamber it was Kane and last year it was Umaga.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

what in the FUCK is this?? The big bad baby battle royal??? The mini chamber?? This is...a weird mix. They desperately need a big nasty in this match, and since Kane has already been eliminated from contention, I think they should go ahead and throw Mike Knox in this. The guy is being pushed as mean, sadistic, powerhouse, and he could elevate that character SO fucking much with this match. I can envision ridiculous bumps for all of Mysterio, Jericho, and Rey Rey here.

As it currently stands, I can see JBL and HBK being in this from a mile away. Put HBK in the position to FULLY rebel against JBL, and have brutal consequences. Its the best way to set up a showdown, but its currently unkown wether they are gonna go ahead with the HBK-Taker thing. If thats the plan, then they may end up going with HBK-JBL one on one. Just not sure if you can do that any other way but in a street fight, and I dont think WWE would put that much gimmick all in one PPV. so as much as I would love to see Knox get the spot, it likely ends up HBK and JBL.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I'm looking forward to this more out of the two on offer. Kofi Kingston is the really intresting entrant. He's not going to win, but he does jumps and shit, which is more than Rey Mysterio does these days.

Jericho along with Umaga last year was the glue that held his match together, he should do the same this year. I hope the other two in the match aren't HBK & JBL. It seems to me like it would be beneficial for Orton if he could get Dibiase & Rhodes in it.

 

[I own a set of balls]

It's official.
*SPOILER* do not look if you don't want to.




Mike Knox is officially IN this match on WWE.com (2/1/2009) and yet I have absolutely NO IDEA what Knox did to earn a place in the elimination match.



But seriously, why the fuck would I watch this match?

Does it make sense for Chris Jericho to win the title from Cena at No Way Out and have a build up just before Wrestlemania and make Legacy tear down a heel in between?

Same as others. Rey Mysterio is dropped down to nothing more than a high leveled mid-carder. Kofi Kingston in this match directly says to us that the WWE is testing his abilities. Mike Knox. Yeah, you've got to be kidding me.


And who else to put in for the 6th option? Randy Orton? Yeah that makes sense. Ted Dib or Cody? Their chances are slim considering they're beaten 1 on 2 by Cena a few months back.

Who else other than Randy Orton in RAW has the ability to take the title from Cena? Michaels? Or JBL? What are the chances of both of them taking a world title away when both are engaged in a huge feud over a financial crisis problem?

So seriously.


At No Way Out, After the winner pins the loser in the WHC elimination chamber, Lillian will announce, "And the winner, and STILL WORLD HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION, JOHN CENA!".


This is a very predictable match and I'm sick to the stomach because I know for a fact that I'll turn it off before I watch it.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Okay, it's no longer a spoiler at all. wwe.com is reporting that Mike Knox is Offically IN!

Are you fucking kidding me? Mike Knox. Really. Raw couldn't find anyone else on their brand more suitable than Mike fucking Knox. This Elimination Chamber is going to single handedly out-do the Extreme Elimination Chamber for worst fucking match, ever.

There is one final spot left, and my only random assumption is that it'll go to like Manu. Why? Because they've let every other random jobber in, why not.

In all seriousness, I'm not convinced that Ted DiBiase will be the final entrant into this match. He's going to have a larger career than Cody Rhodes, and it seems to me that Cody has proven himself to Randy Orton, yet DiBiase hasn't fully done anything since returning. That being said, unless Cody & Ted are to have a Tag match.. I'm fully sure Ted DiBiase will get the final spot.

Anyone who thinks John Cena doesn't have a chance to win this is out of their fucking mind though. Chris Jericho is his only seemingly good opponent. With Mike Knox in, this means the Rey Mysterio feud will apparently continue. Knox surely wouldn't do a damn thing outside of hinder Rey from winning.

The other thought I had was Knox will jump from feuding with Mysterio, to feuding with Kingston. (he did afterall attack Kingston, too) The final battle will seemingly be between John Cena and Ted DiBiase, or Chris Jericho.

In the end, this match is going to be a colossal shitfest.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I think it's good that there's some new superstars in the Elimination Chamber match. As far as the last entrant goes, I believe it will be either Morrison or Miz. This would be great for Morrison so he can display has talents on pay-per view. No way Cena is going to walk out of this match not the champion so this is a way for Kingston and Knox to test the main-event waters. CM Punk could be another option but I bet he's going to have a IC title match.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I think it's good that there's some new superstars in the Elimination Chamber match. As far as the last entrant goes, I believe it will be either Morrison or Miz. This would be great for Morrison so he can display has talents on pay-per view. No way Cena is going to walk out of this match not the champion so this is a way for Kingston and Knox to test the main-event waters. CM Punk could be another option but I bet he's going to have a IC title match.

Do you seriously want Mike Knox testing Raw's Main Event waters? That's like saying you're wanting to see a Goldfish survive in an ocean filled with sharks.

Kingston works. He equals Orton from 03, and Carlito/Masters from 05. Mysterio IS a Main Eventer, just a small one. (no pun intended) Jericho is a great choice for this, because he'll carry the match for most everyone involved.

I hope you're right on Morrison (or Miz, but hopefully Morrison) being the last entry. I'd really love to see John Morrison get a legit Heavyweight title shot, on a Pay per view. Granted he'll lose, but it's not like he can do any worse than Knox. I don't even think Hacksaw Jim Duggan can be worse than Knox.

 

[Shocky]

I really don't mind it. The Elimination Chamber is going to sell itself. The Smackdown Chamber at this point is clearly the main event of the night, and the Raw match is just a filler. Again, why not see what guys like John Cena and Jericho are made of. Guys like Knox and Kingston are green and are not likely to be in a main event type of match for years to come, so again I say, why Not? Do I really want to see Kane in another chamber match? Not really.

Look, guys like Orton are going to be invovled in a match with Shane Mcmahon, it's looking like we'll get JBL vs. HBK at No Way Out, so I ask you, who do you put into this match. Guys like Morrison and Miz will probably be invovled in a tag title match, I simply don't know who else you put into that match.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I am totally unsure how this is receiving such seething hatred. this match is gonna fucking rock my socks. Lets see....you have two of WWE's best high spot bump taking guys in Jericho and Rey Rey, along with the two heavy hitter, powerhouse monsters in Kane and Knox. This is gonna be fucking INSANE. I predict at least one chamber being smashed to smithereens during this match, probably more. Rey Mysterio might not even live through this. The extreme brutality of this could be awe inspring. also dont forget, Cena was in one of the better not rules matches of recent memory, with YouMaynga at Royal Rumble 06.

As far as Knox getting in....I fucking love it. THIS is his big shot. I was fairly captivated by the fantastic promo he cut a few weeks ago, and THIS could be the moment WWE uses to solidify this dude as a legit maniac monster heel. Mike Knox could go fucking OFF in this.

To be honest, im looking forward to this WAY more than I am anything else on this show so far. True, there is about a 1% chance of a title change, and everyone knows it, but the potential in this match is just fucking LOADED. Cant wait. Way to match up skill sets with a match type WWE

 

[klunderbunker]

Kane being added to this is the perfect choice. You now have two monster heels to add the power aspect to this match that it was sorely lacking. Both are visious and add something new to the match that is the essence of what it is. This match is supposed to be violent and Knox and Kane add that. With Kofi, Rey and Jericho are fairly high flyers and Knox, Kane and Cena are power brawlers, there's now a great balance to this match. All in all it doesn't sound that bad at all actually. Cena easily wins of course, just hopefully not with the STFU.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

After seeing Raw tonight, and watching Mike Knox team up with Kane, against Mysterio and Kingston.. while I'm not surprised they won, I was pleasantly surprised with how well Knox came off.

I'll give the W.W.E. this much, they are truly trying to make him seem like a threat in this thing, and having Knox, Kane and Jericho as the heels. (Kane seems somewhat tweenish though) I think it's going to come down to those three, against John Cena in the end.

Do I suddenly like Mike Knox being in this match? Fuck no. I'm pretty sure Ted DiBiase could've played a better role with the assumed up-coming Cena/Orton feud. And if not him, than at least Morrison or Miz. But I at least like Knox being in more than I did. Still not thrilled about it, but not as unhappy as I was after tonight's showing.

How anyone thinks this match is going to be better than the Smackdown Chamber match is out of their rabid ass mind though. I mean, this is obviously a middle of the card type of match. It's solely and mainly going to be used to test the likes of Kingston & Knox in the bigger picture, while also adding the element of "being the underdog" for Cena to defeat 3 monsters.

In the end, if ANYONE thinks Cena even remotely has a chance to lose. Let me know now, so I can call the people in the white coats, cause you're fucking crazy.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Should be a great match for Kofi & Knox. Neither stands a chance, but it's a little bit of exposure that they wouldn't normally get. If you start the match with Kofi & Cena it should start off hot, add Knox after and have him clean house on the two babyface wrestlers. Kane should be the designated jobber in the match. Yeah I really think this could be good for both of them. You could probably have Rey & Jericho eliminated before them as well, just to elivate them a little more. Although that would make for an anti climatic ending.

 

[klunderbunker]

I just hope that Kofi and Knox don't get the same treatment that Punk got in the Extreme Chamber match. Punk was one of the hottest names on the show and he goes out first in favor of Hardcore Holly because he's "a bigger star". Hopefully WWE thinks straight and doesn't have Rey pull a Can He Do It storyline and sends him out first. Kofi has the kind of offense that could work well in here. I see him going down to a chokeslam, but he should be around for awhile. Knox probably goes down to the FU with Jericho being the last man eliminated. SHould be a good popcorn match at least.

 

[simpsons_fanatic742]

I believe that the WWE went with these 6 wrestlers to create a sense of surprise in the Elimination Chamber. We were all predicting the usual 6 wrestlers to be in it, but the WWE shocked us and gave other wrestlers a chance to be in it. I think that it will be a good match actually and I'm quite excited to watch it. I really excited for Kofi and I hope he makes a good impression in the match. I think Cena is going to win, but I expect alot of action and some great spots. I say kudos to the WWE for taking a chance on the match and not repeatedly giving us the same wrestlers in the EC.

 

[weird86]

Mike Knox will win!

All joking aside I'm going for an upset and picking Jericho to win. Him and Randy at WM with Flair as special guest is fresh, and they had some backstage segments which I liked. Im not huge on heel and heel feud, but this could be GREAT.

Cena will go on to face the winner of SD's EC most likely HHH and saying he wants his WWE championship belt back. Cena HHH 3 will sell more then HHH Edge 2. It also puts a twist on things. I'm not fond of rematches anyone here knows this, but WWE doesnt have a ton of options and we KNOW HHH and Cena will be involved in the ME or sub ME at WM 25.

This match will be good esp with Jericho, Kofi and Rey.

 

[I own a set of balls]

Mike Knox will win!

All joking aside I'm going for an upset and picking Jericho to win. Him and Randy at WM with Flair as special guest is fresh, and they had some backstage segments which I liked. Im not huge on heel and heel feud, but this could be GREAT.

Cena will go on to face the winner of SD's EC most likely HHH and saying he wants his WWE championship belt back. Cena HHH 3 will sell more then HHH Edge 2. It also puts a twist on things. I'm not fond of rematches anyone here knows this, but WWE doesnt have a ton of options and we KNOW HHH and Cena will be involved in the ME or sub ME at WM 25.

This match will be good esp with Jericho, Kofi and Rey.

Okay, fuck, I may not be understanding your logic quite well. But why the FUCK would John Cena fight Triple H?

So you're saying that WWE should just ignore Cena and Randy's indirect feud to WM25's and instead build up Cena vs HHH III for WM25 in the next what, 40 days?

Seriously, what the fuck is the logic behind that?

 

[weird86]

Randy and John havent been feuding since the last time they wrestled. Randys tied in with the McMahons right now.

Cena can say he wants his title (WWE Championship back, and go on to win a number 1 contendership match for any belt) and face the winner of the SD elimination chamber (Count on that being HHH, Edge or Taker). It's not expected by anyone (everyone expects Cena will win the Raw EC and go on to face Orton, and it also allows Orton to feud with jericho which they have teased a little and is fresh, and I'm saying Cena to face HHH cuz you know they will both be in the ME or sub ME

"So you're saying that WWE should just ignore Cena and Randy's indirect feud to WM25's and instead build up Cena vs HHH III for WM25 in the next what, 40 days?"
Yes I am. Cena and Orton, Cena and HHH (or whoever wins SD's EC match) have the same amount of time to start as Randy and John havent had any sort of feud starting yet, so it be even, both would have the 60 days to start something......

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

The inclusion of Kane changes my perspective on it a bit, as now I don't mind seeing Kofi or Knox involved here. With Cena, Jericho, Mysterio, and Kane the WWE has 4 legit main eventers in the ring, so why not test out two other guys? Sure, it's not nearly as unpredictable as the Smackdown! chamber appears to be, and I'd all but guarantee Cena has the win with absolutely no question, but this could work out.

The OBVIOUS ending is for Jericho and Cena to be the last two. So, naturally I'd like to see something a little different.

I think it'll actually start with Cena and Mysterio or Kofi just to be a little bit different. Next, whoever didn't start out between Mysterio and Kofi will enter. So you'll have Cena trying to counteract the quickness of Kofi and Rey. Next will be Mike Knox. He will clean house. Probably knock the living hell out of Rey and Kofi, but he will focus so much on Rey that he'll turn around into an F-U from Cena and be the first one out. After that I see Jericho coming in with everyone knocked out thanks to Mike Knox and Cena's exhaustion from pinning Knox, and they'll talk about how Jericho is like a vulture just picking apart the downed carcasses of his opponents. Also gives Chris plenty of time for a big, cocky smirk to see all his opponents lifeless as he enters the chamber. Last Kane will enter. He will clean house for a few, just the way Knox did and Kofi will be eliminated by Kane. You're down to 4. Cena will somehow get knocked out, Rey will hit a 619 on Kane, and he'll go for a springboard, but Jericho will come from nowhere and hit a codebreaker on Rey and Rey is out. Jericho has Kane and Cena down. He gets cocky, goes for the springboard moonsault on Kane, who rolls out of the way, so Jericho lands on his feet. He'll stumble selling a knee injury, and walk into Kane's grip for a chokeslam, but he'll counter with a low blow. He'll begin to smile and get caught by a suddenly resurgent John Cena who gets a quick pin on Jericho. It'll come down to Cena and Kane as they both recover. They'll trade blows, both have a few nearfalls, and Cena wins.

Who knows what they'll do, but I can honestly see things going that way.

 

[Mitch3721]

When you look at the participants of this Chamber compared to Smackdowns you can really see just how depleted the Raw roster has become. I was looking at the rest of the roster to see who else COULD have gone in the chamber instead of people like Mysterio and Kane (who have nothing to gain from being in this type of match, as they won't win and are already at the higher levels in the WWE) and there was no one who jumped out who
A- wasn't in Legacy
B-wasn't already in a program e.g CM Punk/Regal
Jericho will carry this match I believe. I reckon it will start with Jericho and Mysterio, then Knox will come out and eliminate Mysterio, Kingston comes out and eliminates Knox, Cena comes out, Kane comes out, Kane eliminates Kingston, Jericho eliminates Kane, and Cena eliminates Jericho.
The match should be OK, just I will personally be looking forward to the Smackdown one more merely because of the star power behind it.