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NCAA Football LD 2012-2013 Season

It's a tough call. I think the Pac 12 and the Big 12 are pretty equal, with Oregon being the best team of either conference.

I don't know about that. I just look at each conference from top to bottom and other than Kansas, the Big 12 has nine solid teams. The Pac 12 has Colorado, Washington State, and Utah.
 
I wonder how the BCS standings are going to look if LSU beats Alabama. I'm thinking it'll go Kansas State, Oregon, LSU, and then Notre Dame. I just hope Alabama isn't put ahead of Oregon or Notre Dame.
 
I don't know about that. I just look at each conference from top to bottom and other than Kansas, the Big 12 has nine solid teams. The Pac 12 has Colorado, Washington State, and Utah.
Yeah, so the Big 10 has 9 solid teams and so does the Pac 12. How does that prove your point? :lmao:

I wonder how the BCS standings are going to look if LSU beats Alabama. I'm thinking it'll go Kansas State, Oregon, LSU, and then Notre Dame. I just hope Alabama isn't put ahead of Oregon or Notre Dame.

If 1 loss LSU goes ahead of Notre Dame, despite Notre Dame having one of the toughest strength of schedule this year (10th going into tonight) while be undefeated, that would be completely wrong.
 
If 1 loss LSU goes ahead of Notre Dame, despite Notre Dame having one of the toughest strength of schedule this year (10th going into tonight) while be undefeated, that would be completely wrong.

It just seems guaranteed that LSU is going to be put above either Notre Dame or Oregon if they win. I would not even be surprised if they put LSU above both of them. If you're dreaming of an non-SEC BCS championship game, the nightmare in your dream might be Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC, would they put them ahead of two unbeaten teams if the situation arises?
 
It just seems guaranteed that LSU is going to be put above either Notre Dame or Oregon if they win. I would not even be surprised if they put LSU above both of them. If you're dreaming of an non-SEC BCS championship game, the nightmare in your dream might be Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC, would they put them ahead of two unbeaten teams if the situation arises?

No idea, but if a 1 loss SEC team gets in ahead of an undefeated power conference team or a Notre Dame team with one of the toughest schedules in the country, I'd love to see how the BCS rationalizes that. That would just be a joke.
 
No idea, but if a 1 loss SEC team gets in ahead of an undefeated power conference team or a Notre Dame team with one of the toughest schedules in the country, I'd love to see how the BCS rationalizes that. That would just be a joke.

I like the SEC a lot and there's no validation for that. If you don't play a joke schedule and you're one of three undefeateds, you go in. Period.
 
That game was unreal. Johnny Manziel is simply remarkable.

Now it's time for the Irish to do their job...
 
I think Oregon's extremely overrated. Any good defense should be able to stop that gimmick offense. LSU did it last year and Auburn did it the year before and Boise State the year before that. The defenses in the Pac-12 simply suck and Oregon was fortunate not to face a top tier non-conference team this year.
 
Funny thing about Oregon is their D isn't all that great either. For all the points they put up on USC they still allowed 51 themselves.
 
I'm not sure I'd say Oregon's overrated. These guys score damn near a point a minute and many times are resting their starters by half. If anything, I'd say ND is worse. Two OT wins plus two more by fgs to some pretty poor teams (Pitt and Purdue are garbage). Their D is good, but they've been skating by with some luck right now. Oregon's just been obliterating everyone.
 
Now it's time for the Irish to do their job...
That they did.

10-0.
I'm not sure I'd say Oregon's overrated. These guys score damn near a point a minute and many times are resting their starters by half. If anything, I'd say ND is worse. Two OT wins plus two more by fgs to some pretty poor teams (Pitt and Purdue are garbage). Their D is good, but they've been skating by with some luck right now. Oregon's just been obliterating everyone.
And I'd say you're smoking something if you think giving up 51 points is a sign of a good team. Win or lose, you don't give up 51 points.

ND has had a MUCH tougher schedule then Oregon thusfar. Arkansas State, Fresno State, Tennessee Tech, #22 Arizona, Washington St, #23 Washington, Arizona St, Colorado, #17 USC. 3 ranked opponents (22, 23, 17). And Tennessee Tech is a 3-7 FCS team. How can you even count that as a non-exhibition game is beyond me.

Notre Dame has played Navy, Purdue, #10 Michigan St, #18 Michigan, Miami, #17 Stanford, BYU, #8 Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, BC. 4 ranked opponents (2 in the top 10).

By the end of the year, and undefeated Oregon may have a better schedule then an unbeaten ND (debatable since Oregon's best win would be against Stanford or USC, both of whom USC would have beaten as well), but as of now ND has played a MUCH tougher schedule.





Oh, and Oregons QB just got hurt. Hopefully it isn't serious. But if it is, that's a massive blow, and going undefeated seems even less likely.
 
Funny thing about Oregon is their D isn't all that great either. For all the points they put up on USC they still allowed 51 themselves.
Yes, but that's misleading. When you score as fast and as often as Oregon does, you give your opponents plenty of opportunities to score. Additionally, when you score so fast, your defense doesn't have as much time to rest and then they are tired on the next drive.

Oregon's time of possession is one of the lowest in the country.
I think Oregon's extremely overrated.
I've seen Oregon played 3 or 4 times this year. They are not overrated. They are probably the fastest offense in college football. The speed they have at their skill positions is just incredible.

Any good defense should be able to stop that gimmick offense.
It's not a gimmick offense. It's a "we're better than you offense". There's no gimmick to it. They don't use a plethora of trick plays. They don't do a lot of misdirection. They just line up and outrun you. And their quarterback being a dual threat makes them so much harder to defend.

LSU did it last year and Auburn did it the year before and Boise State the year before that.
Different years, different quarterbacks and different teams.

And LSU didn't stop them. They gave up 27 points the very first game of the season. LSU just happened to score 40. And the Oregon teams which lost to Auburn and Boise State weren't as good as this Oregon team.

The defenses in the Pac-12 simply suck
This is true. And yet, besides the USC game, Oregon has given up 30 points only once this year, and that was the first game of the year.

I think you are seriously underselling Oregon.

and Oregon was fortunate not to face a top tier non-conference team this year.
The only team I see good enough to defeat Oregon in a non-fluke victory is Alabama. And they just got beat by a team with an offense that isn't as good or as polished as Oregon's.

And I'd say you're smoking something if you think giving up 51 points is a sign of a good team. Win or lose, you don't give up 51 points.
So when Auburn gave up 43 points (just one TD and a 2 pt conversion away) to Arkansas in 2010, they weren't a good team? They were the national champions, playing in the SEC, but just not a good team?

I'm sorry, people are reading way too much into the 51 points. When the average time of your possessions is between 2:00 and 2:20 (depending if you include the two end of half possessions which were short), you're going to give up points.

ND has had a MUCH tougher schedule then Oregon thusfar. Arkansas State, Fresno State, Tennessee Tech, #22 Arizona, Washington St, #23 Washington, Arizona St, Colorado, #17 USC. 3 ranked opponents (22, 23, 17). And Tennessee Tech is a 3-7 FCS team. How can you even count that as a non-exhibition game is beyond me.

Notre Dame has played Navy, Purdue, #10 Michigan St, #18 Michigan, Miami, #17 Stanford, BYU, #8 Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, BC. 4 ranked opponents (2 in the top 10).
While I will point out it depends on which measure you look at, I completely agree Notre Dame's strength of schedule is much higher.

By the end of the year, and undefeated Oregon may have a better schedule then an unbeaten ND (debatable since Oregon's best win would be against Stanford or USC, both of whom USC would have beaten as well), but as of now ND has played a MUCH tougher schedule.
Agree completely. And I hate how style points have suddenly become a factor. I hate how the important measure of a good team changes every year. Sometimes it's strength of schedule, sometimes it's who you've lost to, and now this year it's style.

Ridiculous.

Oh, and Oregons QB just got hurt. Hopefully it isn't serious. But if it is, that's a massive blow, and going undefeated seems even less likely.
That kid is fun to watch.
 
I got Manziel third in the Heisman race after his performance against Alabama. I would have him first if LSU hadn't shut him down in the second half and if Texas A&M would have won because they would be going to the SEC title game. I have been real impressed with Texas A&M in the SEC. They've had the lead in their two losses or else they would be undefeated. Hopefully, Missouri will be much improved next year.

As an Ole Miss alum and sometimes fan, I knew I shouldn't have said that they were going to win when it was halftime because Vanderbilt always finds a way to beat us. We should have closed the deal against them and A&M but a terrible defense and questionable play-calling by Freeze did us in yet again. We have two games left at LSU and at home against Mississippi State and I know we'll lose them both so say goodbye to bowl eligibility. It was nice knowing you.
 

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