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I was wondering if anybody would have any interest in seeing zack ryder and cody rhodes feuding for the intercontinental title sometime after the draft. I believe a three month feud with them ending the feud at summerslam would put them over as the future main eventers and the intercontinental belt would gain some needing exposure.

You have two guy who are great workers and they have an large fanbase plus the promos between the two would be amazing. The only thing is they would have to make sure the right person go over. I believe it should be ryder who goes over and be the guy who takes the belt from rhodes at summerslam in a match like an two out of three falls match.

Your thoughts?
 
I honestly don't think that the WWE see Ryder as the next big Main Event star in the company, guys like Ziggler, Rhodes and Barrett are getting there. but not Ryder in my eyes.
 
and they have an large fanbase plus the promos between the two would be amazing.

Do they really have a large fan base? I don't think so- no one cares about these two guys- they aren't going to be the next big stars. They don't have the look. The promos would be ok- but not amazing. This would not be a match that would sell summerslam so who cares- its just a lower mid card match that would build to the main events. Which would be neither of these guys- just like MIZ will never be a top guy, neither will these too. They don't have the look are charisma to get there.
 
The OP lacks plenty of depth in the explanation to WHY this would be a good idea....
But Cody is in the exact same position as Dolph was when he was US title holder....Ryder feuded with him to further his career. And Dolph put him over so he could move further towards the main event (what happened to that?).

Cody is not ready to Drop the title to Ryder yet....and Ryder needs a decent Feud to further his popularity with the fans again now that he has slowed down his asscent...but not to a halt.

Cody needs to Feud with Orton, or another Main event Face after Mania....then needs to drop the title to erm... Justin Gabriel? Then go after the HW championship....and Fail like Ziggler did but for RAW.

This Feud would not help Ryder or Rhodes on their current Journey. The Feud may happen next year....but for now. It would be no use to iether party.
 
I don't see Zack Ryder as a future main eventer. Maybe a mid carder for like, just like Kofi Kingston, there if you need him but hope you don't.

Cody Rhodes will have dropped the IC title and into the Main Event picture by SummerSlam, unless he's going to be the guy to have the WHC and the IC at the same time.

Zack Ryder's "large fanbase" isn't on his in ring ability, it's based on people who enjoy his YouTube show. Sure some people like him for his in ring work, but not enough to make a difference

I feel like Miz-Ryder would be a decent Summer feud if Miz isn't really doing much
 
No how can zack help cody!! IMO cody is head and shoulders above zack the feud wouldnt do anything! It would help zack sure but not cody!! When summerslam comes around cody by then i hope wont be the IC title. Instead he will be in the main event going for either the WHC or WWE title! Cody will be champion by the end of the year my guess is by the end of the summer!!

Zack is a damn good worker and he is over with the crowd! But creative doesnt believe he has the look or how should i say it being believable! Yah not a good feud IMO but the segments would be funny as hell
 
I don't understand why Ryder isn't already in a feud with Kane. It would have made the most sense out of everything that's currently going on outside of the main events for WM.

Ryder beating Kane in a feud would have done more for his career at this point than him being part of the 12 man tag match at WM on team Teddy. Like it or not Kane is a main event star, and against the right person he can make them look like gold and put them over.

As for Ryder vs Cody it would be a great build up for both superstars and it would be a good step prior to Cody stepping into the Main Event for the WHC or WWE title. Do I think it'll happen, no I think Cody may hold on to the IC title for another 6 months while building up to bigger and better things. Ryder will probably get shuffled around and lost in the middle card again.
 
I don't have much interest in this at all. This feud could be decent at best but in the end where would it lead them? I think if this did happen it would be a pointless throw away feud. Just so the title could switch hands. I'm not one if those people who hates Zack Ryder. But he should NEVER be in the main event. Zack Ryder is a good mid card. But when you have a guy like that main eventing it makes past main eventers look weak. He's not as impressive in the ring as some people like to play out. And he definitely doesn't have the size or character to back it up. Putting him in the main event over someone like Dolph Ziggler for example would be outrageous. Cody Rhodes how ever is deserving. He has a decent character. Great mic skills. Great in ring ability. I think a feud that needs to happen is Cody Rhodes vs Ted DiBiase. This would allow Ted to come back from Injury and immediately make him relevant. The history they have would help make this match. You could have Ted go over and start proving himself as a mid carder. Also allowing Cody to step into the main event. And then let's say down the road Cody is the main eventer and Ted is the mid carder. Ted could easily challenge Cody again and rebuild the feud to help Ted get over. I think that has huge potential. But to some it up, Zack vs Cody is alright. Just not a game changer.
 
WWE are probably going to start looking towards Summerslam shortly. Although they probably already are given it is their number two PPV. What do you see happening and what would you like to see happen?

WWE TITLE - JOHN CENA (C) VS THE ROCK II

For those of you on here who think Rock is leaving, think again. Yes, he wont be around 'full time' but he is pencilled in for Summerslam 2012 and he has said it himself. I see a huge rematch taking place with 'the series' probably finished off at Wrestlemania 29. Cena hasnt been in the title picture for a while now and I see the 'poster boy' getting bumped back into that picture. Punk will drop the title maybe to Jericho (eventually) and Cena then taking it off Jericho. For what its worth Cena will beat Rock here, making it 1-1 in the series. Did I mention it is in L.A?

WORLD TITLE - ALBERTO DEL RIO (C) VS RANDY ORTON

If the rumours are true, they were mean't to enter a programme for Wrestlemania 28. I expect Sheamus to win the gold at WM28 and then defend successfully against Bryan at Extreme Rules. During the planned draft, I think Del Rio will move over to Smackdown and go into a programme with Sheamus as this is a fresh fued. I see Del Rio taking the title eventually before Randy is put back into the title picture culminating in a match at SS12.

CM PUNK VS KANE

When Kane returned, we saw images of Cena, Orton and Punk. Cena at the Rumble, Orton at Wrestlemania and Punk at Summerslam makes sense. After the Orton/Kane programme, I think Kane will set his sights on Punk and may even cost him the title.

REY MYSTERIO VS SIN CARA

If the rumours were true, we were going to see this at WM28. Both got injured so it didnt happen. WWE would be missing a trick not having these two face off!

CHRIS JERICHO VS THE MIZ

Reports suggest Jericho is to work full time over the summer and some are saying he will go to Smackdown to give it some extra exposure. I also think Miz needs a change, a change of show and a change of character - face turn? This could be an interesting fued. Maybe after Jericho dispatches of Punk and the whole best in the world thing is put to bed he could start his beef with Miz for stealking his gimmick.

All that is worth mentioning at this stage. Sure there are talents like Bryan, Sheamus, Barrett, Ziggler to think about but don't see anything major for them over the summer. Triple H and Undertaker are too hard to predict because no idea of their intentions.

Maybe some wishful thinking here and improbable, but definately not impossible.
 
If done right it could be the thing that gets each wrestler to where they need to be. But to be done right it needs to follow the HHH/Rock fued from 98 and be a summer long thing. There needs to be back and fourth all the while Rhodes holds the title going into SummerSlam where they put fourth their best effort and have the match of the night (just like HHH and Rock did at SS).

If that happens you make Ryder look more credible then he did when he beat Ziggler because this time he beat a guy who is coming off a year + long title reign and back to back Mania victories against Mysterio and Show. This then also allows Rhodes to move forward and challenge for the world title.
 
This looks really good and I would not have a problem shelling out the cash for this one. I would add a IC title match where we see Rhodes drop the title to a up and coming face so that Rhodes can begin his assention to the world ranks.

Now all thats needed is finding a spot for Ziggler and a returning Barrett and you have the potential for a memerable SummerSlam.
 
I don't see Cena Vs The Rock in any championship matches in the matchup between the two. Though it would make it more interesting i just think it would be predictable cause i just can't see the Rock even wanting the title and being around full-time.
 
By the Summer I want to see Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziggler and Kofi Kingston in the world title pictures.

I could see Rhodes being drafted to Raw to give him a chance at becoming a big heel on the main show. Maybe a match between him and Cena or CM Punk at Summerslam. To get him over it would need to be a clean win.

In return, draft Kofi and Ziggler to Smackdown and let these two become a couple of the main guys over there. I'd love this match to be for the World Heavyweight championship come Summerslam, however it may also include someone like Orton, Jericho, Del Rio, Cena etc.

Bottom Line, it's time for a bit of change in WWE. Cena doesn't need the title to get over. Orton doesn't need the title to get over.

Although this draft coming up is a bit void, it's a chance to give those upper-mid card players the chance to sink or swim with one of the big titles.
 
I think it would be an interesting feud. I can see it happening one day soon. Rhodes and Ryder may not have the best matches, but the build would certainly be entertaining. Good idea.
 
WWE TITLE - JOHN CENA (C) VS THE ROCK II

For those of you on here who think Rock is leaving, think again. Yes, he wont be around 'full time' but he is pencilled in for Summerslam 2012 and he has said it himself. I see a huge rematch taking place with 'the series' probably finished off at Wrestlemania 29. Cena hasnt been in the title picture for a while now and I see the 'poster boy' getting bumped back into that picture. Punk will drop the title maybe to Jericho (eventually) and Cena then taking it off Jericho. For what its worth Cena will beat Rock here, making it 1-1 in the series. Did I mention it is in L.A?

I 100% agree on this although we'll know for sure after Wrestlemania. If Cena wins at WM, then there's no way they do this match as Rock will not win the belt. However, if The Rock wins at WM, then I see a situation where he refuses to give Cena a rematch. Cena then captures the WWE title sometime in early to mid-summer. He continues to challenge the Rock to a rematch in what he'll call The Rock's "real home" of LA. Finally, The Rock will say he'll only give Cena a rematch, if he puts the title on the line. This will add even more hype to the rematch.
 
Summerslam 2012 ideas:

WWE Championship match - Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton
This match should last for around 20-25 minutes. And Jericho picks up the win with a codebreaker countering the RKO.
Winner : Chris Jericho

WHC match - Daniel Bryan vs Shemaus vs Christian
This match should last for around 15-20 minutes MAX. Christian picks up the win after the killswitch on Sheamus.
Winner : Christian

Falls Count Anywhere Hardcore match - Mick Foley vs John Cena
This match should be around 17-24 minutes. Mick Foley ends up winning (first time ever) After 3 cahirshots to the head (despite WWE's PG raiting).
Winner : Mick Foley

Triple H vs Wade Barrett
This match should be around 12-17 minutes. Triple H wins by second Pedegree on Wade Barrett.
Winner : Triple H

Cody Rodhes and The Miz vs R-truth and Mayson Ryan
This Match should be around 10 minutes. Cody and The miz win.
Winners : The Miz and Cody rodhes

Steel Cage match - Kane vs Mark Henry
This match should be around 10-12 Minutes. Kane wins via Pinfall.
Winner : Kane
 
Zach ryder does not, never has, nor will he ever entertain me. I do not like jersey guido types and i do not like his character, or in ring, or promo ability. I know people touch their penis because they love woo woo woo. But get over it. wwe feels the same way. he got "over" by a youtube show. then they gave him a belt and lots of tv time and people went...oh shit...nevermind.

I want to see guys like cody rhodes and dolph ziggler get into programs with meaning. Hell, i would love to see them feud with eachother. And to the people i see talking about those guys' looks aren't "championship like"......uhhum have you ever seen two time champ REY "I'M LIKE 5 FOOT 2 AND CAN MAGICALLY DROP TOE HOLD EVERYONE" MYSTERIO????

Summerslam can be a great show if these elements fall into place...

I'll take rock-cena 2. why the hell not

cm punk vs dolph ziggler vs chris jericho for wwe title

sheamus vs randy orton vs christian vs daniel bryan for wh title

mitb match with wade barrett winning like i've seen reported

beth phoenix vs kharma

tag champs of r truth and kingston vs miz and mystery partner(lord tensai)
 
I can never see Ryder in a main event position, the US Title is as good as it gets for him, sadly. he isnt a believable wrestler, and for him to beat a main guy or push a deserving person out of the way would be wrong.

Rhodes on the other hand, is going to be in that spotlight someday. he has the talent and the look. to tell you the truth i think he should beat the honkeytonk mans record of 454 days. get to around survivor series then drop it to someone deserving and then he runs for the WHC. Whatcha think?
 
So far out to try and predict a Summerslam card but I hope there is no Rock vs Cena II, they are billing this Mania's main event as once in a lifetime and a rematch just 4 months later takes the shine off that IMO.

If Rock is going to work Summerslam I'd like to see him face someone like Orton or Cody using the 3rd generation angle. I'd also like the title match to actually be center stage, preferably Triple H vs CM Punk.
 
So far out to try and predict a Summerslam card but I hope there is no Rock vs Cena II, they are billing this Mania's main event as once in a lifetime and a rematch just 4 months later takes the shine off that IMO.

If Rock is going to work Summerslam I'd like to see him face someone like Orton or Cody using the 3rd generation angle. I'd also like the title match to actually be center stage, preferably Triple H vs CM Punk.

When has WWE ever made sense? They are billing it as once in a lifetime so people BUY the PPV!!! They are suggesting it is the only time they will face off. Its bullshit they are feeding you LOL!

WWE is about making money and Rock vs Cena is all about money. The 2 biggest names in the industry at the moment will have a rematch at one point. Maybe not Summerslam but I wouldnt bet against it.

I predict in around 12 months a Rock vs Cena DVD will be in the works.
 
Okay so there is a lot of talk as to what is going to happen at mania 29, but what about summer slam? Summer slam is looking to be that 2nd big ppv this year [last year I think many other ppv’s beat it out for that #2] Last night Brock returned, rock said he wanted to win the gold. And with some rumors of money in the bank coming and being a main stay of summer slam what do you think will happen? Will summer slam show us the biggest matches/seeds being planted of/for WrestleMania?

What I think could happen, would be at summer slam Rock vs. WWE Champion and Brock vs. Cena… Rock loses but Brock wins [last night brock came out and interrupted Cena when Cena was just about to pronounce Rock as the Greatest Superstar] Brock comes out the next night and says I’ve proven I’m the best here and at UFC I’m the best superstar [then rock comes out sets up a mania match]
cena could have a losing streak to some of the big name veterans and think he doesn’t have it anymore since he lost to the rock then taker comes out and says he has faced some of the biggest names and he wants one last match [or a just a match] against someone he has seen grow, and he wants to give cena a chance to redeem himself for losing to the rock.

So the questions are
Is WrestleMania going to be impacted big this year by Summer slam?

What is going to be the Card at Summer slam

And would you be happy with Lesnar vs. Rock and Cena vs. Taker at Mania 29
Feel free to answer any questions.
 
So we're 4 months out from Summerslam, we got some new debuts and some new angles with last night's Raw, plus the added bonus of the crowd telling the WWE they want Bryan in the main event, so where are we going with this guys?

We have 4 PPVs to come in that time, including the Money in the Bank PPV. Gonna try and look at a few of the main event players in the WWE and see where they could be heading in the coming months.

Brock Lesnar and John Cena: These two look like they'll be tied together from now until Summerslam. I would assume we'll see them face off at at least two of the four upcoming pre-Summerslam PPVs, possibly trading wins so that we get Summerslam as the rubber match. Here's the thing with this feud. Lesnar is just back, he's a former UFC Champion, one of the most recognised sports athletes in the world today and dominated the WWE up until he left originally. He needs to win this feud. But here's the other thing, Cena needs to win this just as badly. He just laid his top of the mountain spot on the line against the Rock, and lost. Now it's on the line against Lesnar, two feuds lost in a row could make him look subpar. So a lot is riding on this, who is king of the WWE basically.

Honestly I see this feud swallowing another superstars path whole, that superstar is....

CM Punk: He has done well as the Champion, but he's not the top guy that he says he is. Cena has got the feud with Rock, Cena has got the feud with Brock and by doing so I assume he will get the main event at Summerslam too. That leaves Punk to complete his mediocre feud with Jericho before he needs to move on to something else. I could see that being a three way match with Cena and Lesnar at one of the 4 pre-SummerSlam PPVs and I could see him dropping the title to one of the two, purely to set their Summerslam main event up as a title match between the two top dogs in the company. Where would that leave Punk though? I'm not sure to be honest.

Chris Jericho: Let's face up to a few things. The feud with Punk has been good, but good isn't good enough for these two. We expected greatness, what we got as a decent build, a good match and Jericho falling on his ass last night. Yesterday's Raw segment kinda summed this entire feud up, it was interesting, had some mistakes mixed with some good parts, but ultimately was only about the 4th most interesting thing on the show. I don't know how long Jericho is staying for, but if he stays he may need to move to Smackdown to work a program with either Sheamus or a returning Rey Mysterio (as a heel) or Bryan or Del Rio (as a face). He needs to do something to light a spark under this return though, but if anyone can do it he can. (see the heel turn after his poor face return last time).

Lord Tensai: It looks like the WWE might be high on A Train this time, but he'll need time to build himself up as a monster heel. They'll have to feed him someone with a view to a post-Summerslam push, honestly I think that person could Kane after a face turn.

The Miz: Needs a face turn, quite badly. I'd switch him to Smackdown and have Johnny Ace run him down for a few weeks, basically tell him he'll be on Superstars pretty soon. Run a program where Miz turns on Laurinaitis and put him up against Del Rio or Christian. There's a feud still waiting with Daniel Bryan too.

Undertaker: I know he's broken down and that he is a Wrestlemania attraction now. But going away for a year and coming back for one match will get old pretty fast I think. That said I'm not sure there's a feud outside of Lesnar or Cena that is waiting for him.

Randy Orton, Kane & Mark Henry: Three wrestlers who are in a kind of limbo right now. Do you switch them? Do you make them work more programs with each other? How long before Henry and Kane decide to retire, or Orton gets bored of being a bit part player? No easy answers here but Kane will probably switch face again, if only to work with Tensai, Henry I honestly don't know, and Orton needs to freshen up. There still is a feud for Orton with Daniel Bryan on Smackdown, but going into Summerslam I could see him switching heel and returning to Raw to work with Punk. Creative needs to figure something out for the guy though, I could see him growing disillusioned with wrestling pretty soon otherwise.

Daniel Bryan: If the Yes chants keep coming, if he remains as over as he is coming out of Miami, then the only option is to put the title back on him at one of the next two PPVs, as soon as possible really, and to keep him building the angle with AJ. Feed him a face turned Christian to set him up for a feud with Miz for the World Heavyweight title at Summerslam? They need to capitalise on how Miami treated him though, we'll see what the ratings were like for Raw, but if they were high than the majority of the people tuning in for Lesnar would also have figured out that Daniel Bryan is massively over right now, and they'll want to find out why.

Sheamus and ADR: They seem like odd men out now, Sheamus especially, and not really through any fault of their own. If those Bryan chants keep coming the WWE will have no chance but to interject him into the Sheamus - Del Rio feud and have him go over. But that leaves Sheamus with yet another listless title reign, and Del Rio looking like he can't cut it at the top again. I'd be most worried about these two.
 
Brock Lesnar vs John Cena - This looks like it will be Lesnar return match. Lesnar is going over with the WWE setting up a possible Lesnar vs Taker or Rock at WM 29.

Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho for the World Title- They have history. Jericho 2nd comeback he interrupted Orton. And Orton punted Jericho at the end. But we never really had a full out feud with these two. After his great feud with Christian, Orton has been putting guys over and helping elevate some younger talent. I think he is needs a more high profile feud. Jericho at Summerslam makes a lot of sense imo.

CM Punk- Too hard to call what he does at SS. I'm not sure if he will still be champ at Summerslam.
 
Before we know it, SummerSlam 2012 will be here. It's not too early to start predicting some potential matches as the build up should start in about two months. It is widely considered the second biggest PPV of the year, although it may not always seem like it. What angles would you guys want in leading up to the PPV? Matches? Card? Give your thoughts. It would have seemed logical to build up Lesnar-Cena as the top match and draw, but the feud can simply not last that long. It will be completely dry come June/July. Only way I can see them somewhat extending the feud is if they insert someone else into the equation. Randy Orton would seem like a logical choice. After all, the three men did come up with each other and were all a part of that same class of great prospects back in the OVW days. I'm sure that can constantly be brought up throughout such angle. Another thing is the draft is coming up so we don't know who will end up where, but considering the SuperShow concept continues, then technically the brand split is inexistent. Here's some potential matches:

WWE Championship - Cena vs. Lesnar vs. Orton
WH Championship - Punk vs. Bryan
Money in the Bank Ladder Match (Hopefully they scratch the PPV)
Rey Mysterio vs. Sin Cara
Kharma vs. Beth Phoenix
Sheamus vs. Lord Tensai
IC or US Title Match
 
lol, Punk on Smackdown?

Anyway this is hard for me. I've been sitting here for 5 minutes wondering what I'm going to type up and the only thing I can actually get into is a Rock vs Cena mania rematch that would start Cena's rise back to the top.

I don't like many other ideas because of them having Lesnar facing Punk and taking the belt off him(or Lesnar retains and this is Punk's rematch). If this happens I'm afraid of what could happen to Punk. They could throw him in a cheap feud with someone but the WWE would really try not to go too far backwards since they know that Lesnar won't be around forever.

As for the WHC, well, I'm really not sure. Maybe after Extreme Rules they do a draft and the belts switch shows and if that were to happen I can see a Punk vs Bryan match up around summerslam that would knock our socks off.

I'll post again when I think about it more with new ideas/matches. Interested to see what others have to say on this matter.
 

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