*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] Undertaker Injury/Vegetative State & Kane's Search Discussion

[kdkaine]

While I think the most likely scenario would be the SES I am going in a complete opposite direction as I think that would be too obvious, this is also the same reason why I'm not completely sold on Swagger being the one either.

Ted DiBiase Jr - The "Fortunate Son" has been following in daddy's footsteps ever since Wrestlemania, bringing back the Million Dollar Championship, now bringing Virgil back to be his valet, let's not forget that Taker debuted as part of Ted DiBiase Sr's Million Dollar Team way back at Survivor Series 1990.

Obviously having Ted work with The Undertaker would be an incredible push for DiBiase, and Taker's past connection with The Million Dollar Man could possibly be a motive for Ted to try and take him out, trying to prove that he is better than his father which is what it seems he's been trying to do since Wrestlemania.

Another option that I think it could be is David Otunga. Here's a young kid who has the look that Vince loves and he seems to be pretty decent on the mic. Bringing him in with a program with The Undertaker right off the bat would be a tremendous push that would almost certainly make him a star which is something that WWE really needs right now. He could fill the void created by Batista's leaving as I think that they both have pretty much the same build and attitude.

Regardless of who it is I'm really looking forward to seeing where this is going to go, I would love for this to give Kane a push back into being something other than a jobber to the stars and I'm kind of hoping that this could be one last epic storyline to close out both Kane's and Taker's fantastic careers.

 

[Sora/roxas]

i liked the promo till he started that "i shoulda been there" thing. I hope its John Cena. I no it wont happen but still imagine it. Cena wants to cement his domince as the top superstar and the Undertaker is the only one who Rivals him.

 

[TheLunatic]

Having it be Cena is crazy and totally asinine. He's on RAW, feuding for his title, most likely with Sheamus. Totally stupid... Thumbs down to that...


But, didn't Kane come out to handcuff Punk to the ring so Rey could shave his head? I think it's easiest to say that it was Punk. He did it as retribution, and he decided to attack 'Taker. (I think Kane was going to be Punk's next feud.) So, now it just so happened that Mark Callaway got injured, so, now, they can use it to boost Punk's and/or the SES ruthlessness. It may not be directly CM Punk, it could have been Gallows, or even the "Masked" member. Regardless, I see Kane costing Punk the title at F4W, it's the only logical answer...

 

[MelodicLullaby]

Well, with McMahon already wanting a feud to begin between The Undertaker and Jack Swagger for the gold at SummerSlam, most people would like to think it would be him. But logically, you can't just have Swagger -- someone else has to be in on it, because I doubt Swagger solo would be able to take out The Deadman, storyline wise. If Kane is getting involved in the story too, being hell-bent on getting revenge for "big brother", then surely at the end of the day, the Undertaker is going to want vengeance even more. So what do you do when two giants want a fight against a mystery figure? Make it two mystery figures!

My guess is that it will feature Swagger -- I doubt they'll throw out his push before SummerSlam -- but it will also have someone else who's in cahoots with the All-American American. I wouldn't be surprised if it was CM Punk, but I couldn't see him teaming up with Swagger. It would have to be someone who's after the gold too -- so maybe McIntyre. If Sheamus were on SmackDown, then I'd suggest him instead, since he's obviously going after all the big dogs. But I think he transferred to RAW -- I can't remember, haven't watched that brand in a while.

 

[Wullief23]

It was Hornswoggle!!!! Only kidding i think it will turn out to be Kane! Making a big deal out of it then turning out to be him as he has been waiting for another push but is always the one to be left aside as Undertaker continues to get the big billings.
Either that or it would be good if a new superstar waiting to make his debut done it to start of with a big statement, not sure if there is anyone waiting to come through though.

 

[gonszo]

It would have been nice if Kane had won the battle royal... kept the intensity of the promo. I can't see Rey winning at the F4W.

Of course they could be wanting to line Rey up to go 1 on 1 against Swagger for a while.

My money is on Swagger.
But I want it to be the SES.

 

[RiVaLGaMeR]

My guess its Kanes push to main events again. I think Kane did it. I mean it would be obvious if he won the battle royal, but he didnt. I think its still him because it seems perfect for another feud. I mean who else would do it? It wouldnt make any sense if anyone else did. Geeze what did HHH do it? You couldnt find a better person to accuse then the guy going around pointing fingers.

 

[Megadeth]

I am gonna go with someone that after a brief scan of the previous posts, I dont think anyone has mentioned yet, The Rated-R Superstar, Edge.

Remember a few weeks back on Raw, after fighting Christian in a match where Randy Orton got to pick Edge's opponent, it was revealed that Christian was not the man Orton had picked, but it was the Undertaker. Edge then took a count-out, only to end up getting Choke-slammed by the Dead man. Plus who can forget back when Edge and the Undertaker were feuding and the Undertaker sent Edge to "Hell"? I would not be surprised at all if they decided to go with someone who isnt even on Smackdown now, and someone no one would expect. Plus given their history, and Edge's return to being a heel, I think Edge would make sense.

Not that I really want to see this feud again, but the SES just seems to random to me for it to be them, and I just really hope it isn't Kane, and I just dont think Swagger would be believable, and I think they want it to be someone a little less obvious, but then again their booking as of late has left me baffled and I thought for sure Swagger would be the first to not win the title after winning MITB, so I could very well be wrong.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Uhm... has NOBODY been keeping up with that Awesome new tag team signed to a 30 day contract?

Hawkins and Archer were told to "Make an Impact" and what better way for them to make an impact than to take out the Undertaker? Plus, the fact that Archer looks like someone who could actually take on at least Kane.

Not to mention, with Hart Dynasty busy on raw, and the only other smackdown teams also being heel teams (SES and Dudebusters) it only makes sense that WWE would use Brothers of Destruction to push these two guys.

After that, my second guess would be Kane for the simple fact that WWE hasn't had Kane vs. Taker in a long while and I believe Taker is wanting to do one more rivalry against Kane before he officially retires.

 

[dotty_84]

It would be extra awesome if through the weeks there were hand held cam clips of Taker getting beating black and blue ofcourse hiding the culprits identity.

I can only see it as being SES or Hawkins & Archer. Having one superstar on his own cause this isn't too plausible in my eyes.

 

[Teddy Irving]

Uhm... has NOBODY been keeping up with that Awesome new tag team signed to a 30 day contract?

Hawkins and Archer were told to "Make an Impact" and what better way for them to make an impact than to take out the Undertaker? Plus, the fact that Archer looks like someone who could actually take on at least Kane.

Not to mention, with Hart Dynasty busy on raw, and the only other smackdown teams also being heel teams (SES and Dudebusters) it only makes sense that WWE would use Brothers of Destruction to push these two guys.

After that, my second guess would be Kane for the simple fact that WWE hasn't had Kane vs. Taker in a long while and I believe Taker is wanting to do one more rivalry against Kane before he officially retires.

I was actually thinking this when i was reading through the other posts Hawkins and Archer seems like a great idea(the whole make an impact thing) but i just don't know if they have the credability to take out taker in kayfabe. I know anything could happen and i would love this to be the way it works out but i just can't see it happening. The one thing i hope they don't do is have it turn out to be kane. Not even just for the BoD to come back but i just feel that is to predictable and they need to have it be somebody(a group) else.
I quite like the idea of HHH being the one to have done it. Mainly because i would love to see a HHH heel run i have always felt he was better as a heel. The post with the idea saying he should come back blaming the fans for making him something he is not is a great idea and one i would love to see, because if this happened he would no longer be on his own but could have sheamus by his side(which would be a great boost for sheamus not involving the title). I say sheamus beside him using the idea that he feels sheamus opened his eyes to what the fans had turned him into and they becomes great friends. I think they would make a formidable team to go against BoD and with HHH's track record of taking people out it would be believable and lets face it sheamus has no problem with sneak attacks either.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Uhm... has NOBODY been keeping up with that Awesome new tag team signed to a 30 day contract?

Hawkins and Archer were told to "Make an Impact" and what better way for them to make an impact than to take out the Undertaker? Plus, the fact that Archer looks like someone who could actually take on at least Kane.

Not to mention, with Hart Dynasty busy on raw, and the only other smackdown teams also being heel teams (SES and Dudebusters) it only makes sense that WWE would use Brothers of Destruction to push these two guys.

I really hope that this is a "Hey let me throw this out there for the hell of it for a couple laughs" fakepost, because that would be the most anti-climactic resolution ever to this angle. It would make the WWE lose fans, and Archer is pretty close to future endeavors as it is. There is no reason why Archer and Hawkins should be revealed as the guys who did it, especially when, let's face it, it would make The Undertaker himself look real weak.

After that, my second guess would be Kane for the simple fact that WWE hasn't had Kane vs. Taker in a long while and I believe Taker is wanting to do one more rivalry against Kane before he officially retires.

I was thinking it could have been Kane, but it's just way too obvious at this point and I doubt it would be him.

Who I think it should be though, is Drew McIntyre. They've been trying to make him the next big thing on Smackdown for months now, and he still hasn't connected with the audience. The fans don't like him in a "Ugh, I hope this guy gets his ass kicked" type of way (the good way), but more of a, "Ugh, not this guy" way. They've tried everything they could to get Drew the desired crowd reaction, between him taking out R-Truth, to having Vince McMahon in his back pocket, to being a weasely heel, to getting an awesome entrance, and even taking out inexplicable crowd favorite Matt Hardy. Nothing's worked.

Having Drew be the guy that takes out The Undertaker would force him to either sink or swim, and force the crowd into giving him a reaction. If he can't get the audience to react to him after that point, he's a lost cause. It would also be a good way to get Drew separated from McMahon with Vince's reaction being like, "You pissed off The Undertaker?! You're on your own, good luck!" Also, at least with Drew, he has a history of incapacitating people.

If they ever want to get Drew McIntyre over, and taken as a legitimate threat, he needs to be the one who took out The Undertaker. It's too bad Sting re-signed with TNA. Imagine how awesome the reveal would be if it was Sting. We'd finally get that dream match.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I really hope that this is a "Hey let me throw this out there for the hell of it for a couple laughs" fakepost, because that would be the most anti-climactic resolution ever to this angle. It would make the WWE lose fans, and Archer is pretty close to future endeavors as it is. There is no reason why Archer and Hawkins should be revealed as the guys who did it, especially when, let's face it, it would make The Undertaker himself look real weak.



I was thinking it could have been Kane, but it's just way too obvious at this point and I doubt it would be him.

Who I think it should be though, is Drew McIntyre. They've been trying to make him the next big thing on Smackdown for months now, and he still hasn't connected with the audience. The fans don't like him in a "Ugh, I hope this guy gets his ass kicked" type of way (the good way), but more of a, "Ugh, not this guy" way. They've tried everything they could to get Drew the desired crowd reaction, between him taking out R-Truth, to having Vince McMahon in his back pocket, to being a weasely heel, to getting an awesome entrance, and even taking out inexplicable crowd favorite Matt Hardy. Nothing's worked.

Having Drew be the guy that takes out The Undertaker would force him to either sink or swim, and force the crowd into giving him a reaction. If he can't get the audience to react to him after that point, he's a lost cause. It would also be a good way to get Drew separated from McMahon with Vince's reaction being like, "You pissed off The Undertaker?! You're on your own, good luck!" Also, at least with Drew, he has a history of incapacitating people.

If they ever want to get Drew McIntyre over, and taken as a legitimate threat, he needs to be the one who took out The Undertaker. It's too bad Sting re-signed with TNA. Imagine how awesome the reveal would be if it was Sting. We'd finally get that dream match.

I just don't see it being Drew McIntyre. He already has McMahon in his back pocket so I don't see the extra motivation. He can basically ask for a world title shot and would get it as long as he is aligned with McMahon.

I seriously hope it's Cody Rhodes because he needs it possibly more than anyone. When he and DiBiase were a tag team, they talked about how they were better than the old generation. You can say Undertaker is part of that generation. DiBiase has an angle on RAW with the Million Dollar Belt and Virgil but Cody has nothing and this would be a great way for him to be built up by supposedly taking out a legend. This could be the big thing that Rhodes need to establish himself.

 

[tap-out]

Now these are the types of storylines that made the E/F what it was back in the good ole days. Its too bad we dont get more of these. I can only imagine how this story would unfold in a pg-13 era. I think that the PG era can limit where this may go, however it still may be one of the better angles we have seen in quite a while. The who done it? angles are the best because it continues to build hype with tons of corners and speculations along the way.

Now everyone keeps mentioning Kane or SES or Swagger, etc., the problem with the SES or even Swagger is they are not believable in the long run, neither are big enough and capable of the mic work. This truly needs to be someone who can give a performance and act as an equal to how Kane acted, if this is not the case, this angle will be a total letdown. You will have a return of the deadman and some other guy who every knows isnt on the same level. Sorry, Swagger is nowhere near there now. Maybe in the future, but not yet. SES, not a chance. Has Gallows even won a match? You would pit a ok faction against a legendary tag team...um no.

The ideas about it needing to be a group are interesting. How ever if it is a group it needs to have a seriously strong individual to deliver promos that could at least compare to the DeadMan. Now perhaps there can be a strong ME and a youngster who would benefit from this. Likes of McIntyre, Dibiase, Rhodes have all been mentioned. Now this would have been a good way for the Fortunate Sons to be introduced. Story could have been how the fathers of these men told them they had to make a statement now that they had everything given to them, and boom, you have the three to four guys with the help of their papa's (WWE Hall of Famers, yes i know Mr. Perfect is gone). Could have been really interesting, however with Joe Hennig on NXT under a god awful name, and the other Dibiase injured for a while this may not work...or could it, this has the likelihood of being a long drawn out thing, what better way to allow the youngsters to get ready in NXT, without anyone expecting anything, and allowing other Diiase time to heal same with the deadman....that would be quite fun.

I also do like the idea of McIntyre, you can say what you want about him, but the kid has confidence and a hatred about his persona. Comes off very calm, cool, and with an evil demeanor on the mic or whenever he talks...however it would need to be someone with him, because a majore angle with the likes of Kane, Taker, and McIntyre kind of gives off that which one doesnt fit vibe.
However this turns out, i would love for it to be bigger than we ever could have imagined, something like a possible reincarnation of Taker and his ministry, but with Kane and him ass the Dark leaders, and possible leading to something interbrand.

Whatever happens, i think the possibilities are endless if they take the time to creativel think this through. All this is just my .02

 

[TimAH]

I'd actually like to see them drag this out for awhile. Maybe have CM Punk manipulate Kane into attacking people he's "gathered evidence against" all while his stable grows into quite a large faction. By the time Kane realizes Punk was behind it the numbers are way too large and Kane begins taking a beating week after week until the Undertaker returns.

 

[MelodicLullaby]

Kane begins taking a beating week after week until the Undertaker returns.

You mean he'll be doing what he's been doing, but this time with a storyline added onto it?

I just realized that Ziggler could also be a candidate. He's been getting a teency push lately. Kind of. So they might have him teaming up with some other candidates who are tired of waiting for people to notice them, so they go after the WWE's top dog? I'm almost anxious to see how this turns out -- I really hope they don't let this one go to waste like they've let so many other potential storylines.

 

[TimAH]

You mean he'll be doing what he's been doing, but this time with a storyline added onto it?

I just realized that Ziggler could also be a candidate. He's been getting a teency push lately. Kind of. So they might have him teaming up with some other candidates who are tired of waiting for people to notice them, so they go after the WWE's top dog? I'm almost anxious to see how this turns out -- I really hope they don't let this one go to waste like they've let so many other potential storylines.

Haha yeah pretty much. In this case though it would be due to sheer numbers hes going up against and he'd look stronger in the process.

 

[goodlay]

If it's Kane I swear to fucking god im going to kill myself. If we have to sit through another Kane/Taker feud, I think the whole WWE community will collectively bash their heads against a brick wall. In 97/98 it was cool because Kane was a monster that had just been unleashed on WWE and we didn't know if Taker could handle him.

Im hoping it's one of two guys: Punk or Swagger. Punk because the SES would be heavily involved and it would be a great feud, and secondly because WWE really dropped the ball on Punk/Taker last year which I felt really could have been amazing. Swagger because I think it could be a great storyline, with Kane revealing the attacker to be Swagger due to Swagger fearing Taker taking his title. It could culminate in the Deadman rising again and facing Swagger at Summerslam which is apparently the current creative plan.

Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing it be McIntyre because he really needs a guy like Taker to put him over. Or even HHH, due to Taker retiring his best friend, HBK. Just please WWE, don't let it be fucking Kane.

 

[MelodicLullaby]

Or even HHH, due to Taker retiring his best friend, HBK. Just please WWE, don't let it be fucking Kane.

Hallelujah to that, brother.

If it does turn out to be Kane, I will shit bricks and slap a poster cut of McMahon in the face. The Undertaker and Kane feud is LONG over, and needs to go into retirement, permanently.

The idea of it being Triple H is amusing, though. Those two did have a dark match on RAW where Haitch challenged him to a fight, saying they were "the last two warriors", or some such. Them being the last two thanks to the Deadman retiring Shawn. Despite all of that kind of being irrelavant (I kind of still wish they made a storyline out of the fact that all the pyro accidents that happened to 'Taker only seemed to occur around HBK. Kane's pyros popping in his face = HBK at the commentators, pyro accident at the Elimination Chamber = HBK under the ring).

It would become an interesting angle, if it decides to play out that way. I think I'd actually bother tuning into the actual show rather than coming on here to find out what happened!

Here's to hoping the creative writers of WWE doesn't throw another potentially good storyline into the shitter.

 

[Mr. 619]

Well wherever this goes, i dont really care. According to the main site, kane is apparently in line for a huge push soon. So as either undertakers defending brother, or bitter enemy, Im just excited to hear Kane might possibly win the world title in this whole process.

 

[The Doctor]

The only way I want to see this storyline play out is in the form of a major push for an up-and-coming midcarder, or a certain hot heel that can't seem to stay in the main event. That's right, I want the attacker to either be Drew McIntyre or CM Punk.

Drew has connections, motivation, and is sadistic enough to do it. He could be angry about not being put into the title match, or even the qualifiers, or he could have wanted to make an impact and "graduate" from Matt Hardy. He has Vince McMahon on his side, so he doesn't need to worry about being fired as we've seen already. He can do whatever he wants, whatever he needs in order to achieve his goal. He could have taken out Undertaker as an attempt to become the fourth guy in the match and prove to all the doubters that he is someone to be feared. Feuding with Taker would send Drew into the stratosphere and solidify his place in the Main Event.

CM Punk is in the Fatal 4 Way match and still hasn't gotten his revenge on Taker for last year. Kane also caused Punk to get his head shaved at Over The Limit. Punk could have wanted to take out Taker as an act of revenge for all that the Brothers of Destruction did to him. It could lead to a big SES vs. BOD storyline, that would make Punk a mainstay in the main event for the rest of his career.

Kane is cool and all, but I really don't want to see another Kane/Taker feud. I'd much rather they have them team up or at least form an alliance. People pretending to feel anger over something they committed is so played out.

 

[The Max Attack]

Kane kept saying The Undertaker persona is dead. I have a feeling when he comes back he is going to go back to the Biker persona. Just to have one last run as this persona. It would make no sense for Kane to keep repeating that character would never be seen again, and then a couple of months from now, he appears as the Undertaker again.

As much as I would hate to see this happen its looking like another Undertaker vs Kane match all the way over again. And that is the total LASTthing I would want to see happen

 

[MWats]

I think the point of this was to keep you guessing. And it's certainly done that. I think I hit the nail right on the head right there, wouldn't you say? And just like decent flannel shirts, there can be many layers to this article of clothing. Quite frankly it could be anyone from Hornswoggle (notice how he dips as soon as Kane comes to interrogate Big Show) to John Cena (rad fucking heel turn) to The Usos (They did it for da Rock). Whoever it turns out to be, I hope it's not Kane. One, that would be a feud that's been done to death. Two, Kane already takes enough ass beatings from the likes of (A)Dolph Ziggler and other fried monkey nipple quality wrestlers and such, so there's no need to have him lose to Undertaker in most likely his last big time match of his career. Three, there is no three, cool shit just always comes in threes. In all likelyness though, it's Punk and The SES or Cody Rhodes. Why Cody Rhodes? Because he wears alot of fucking body oil, and body oil makes main eventers. Ask Randy Orton.

 

[StopIt]

I would imagine CM punk attacking the Undertaker.
This is a sucky storyline but ehhh. CM Punk wins it at F4way, and announces that he attacked the undertaker. Kane seeks revenge on CM PUNK and Teddy long gives Kane a title shot and he wins it. Then Wade Barrett would want to face Kane for the WHC. 2 big men just destroying other. And there were rumors that the WWE creative team were going to give Kane a massive push.

 

[MelodicLullaby]

Kane kept saying The Undertaker persona is dead. I have a feeling when he comes back he is going to go back to the Biker persona.

Please, just no.

Undertaker completely lost all credit when he transferred over to his American Badass persona. I'll admit, it was a nice change for a few days, and I did like seeing him act more of himself. But ever since he transferred into that stage of his career, he's been getting jumped and owned by multiple -- and HORRIBLE -- wrestlers (see: Great Khali). We do NOT need another American Badass phase. If anything, seeing as Kane is kayfabe insane, he could just be exaggerating the whole mess on account it's his brother that's in that state.

I wish the PG era wasn't around, just so the Ministry 'Taker could make a return. But alas, he was far too Satanic for most people's tastes (and even his own ), and there wasn't much left he could do in order to intimidate people.

Sadly, I wasn't around when the CM Punk vs Undertaker storyline was going about. To be honest, I've just recently gotten back into wrestling (the last one I remember before this year's Royal Rumble was the match between ABA and Triple H, when police came to the ring and told Mark that his wife had been in a car crash -- yes, I've been out of the game for a while).

What exactly happened between the two of them, anyway? If it's a good enough storyline, I'm totally voting for SES to make a shift into the main event limelight. CM Punk is already a monster on the mic in promos (unless he starts singing again -- please don't ever do that again, Punk), and his heel behavior toward Rey Mysterio was blood pumping. This could be exactly the push he needs to make it up to a permanent seat on the main event roster.