*MERGED* All "YES!"/Daniel Bryan Discussion [KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!!]

[Attitude Era Junkie]

Someone said even The Miz would be more worthy to face Austin than Bryan would. Funny how some people don't know anything about Bryan. He has been named Best Technical Wrestler of the Year 7 times in a row by Wrestling Observer Newsletter. He has recently improved his mic skills and now has the crowd cheering for him.

People complain about how these guys getting a push can't wrestle (Batista, Cena, Sheamus...etc.) Finally we got a GREAT wrestler who is NOT boring and people still complain. I have already seen people bashing Dean Ambrose when he hasn't even made his debut yet.

Austin might only do one more match and it will be against CM Punk but it would not be silly or ridiculous to have him face Daniel Bryan either.

I am a fan of real wrestlers. Yes my name shows that I loved the Attitude Era but the early to mid 90's were a magical time in the WWE with all those classic matches that guys like Bret Hart put on. I want another era like that and Bryan would be a big part of it.

 

[BigThunder]

If Bryan is going to face a retired star who can still go, it should be HBK, his mentor. That's a feud where they can really build some emotion behind it.

Or Roddy Piper, who was trained by Gene LeBell, inventor of the Yes-Lock.

I'm not sure who I'd put Austin up against, given he has *one more match*. Maybe Taker.

 

[PlayTheGame]

I think it'd be a good match concept, but I don't think it should be at Wrestlemania. I think Austin's final Wrestlemania match should be against Punk, and it looks like it very well could work out to be like that next year. They could do Austin/Bryan at any PPV, maybe even at Survivor Series or Summerslam this year. Remember, Rock did a match at Survivor Series prior to his 'Mania match, so Austin doing a match beforehand could and would make sense. A nice warmup, so to speak, for Punk could be Bryan. It wouldn't be as high-profile as a match against Punk would be, but it would still be pretty good. Even if Austin went over, Bryan would still get a nice rub. And as for the concept of the feud/match, it could be a battle of the chants (What? & Yes!). The crowd would be so into it and eat it up. They'd be going nuts.

So I like the idea, but just not at Wrestlemania.

 

[AwesomeRko]

I don't think this is plausible, Austin's only ever going to have one more match if at all, it's going to be at wrestlemania and should be huge. The only three guys in the roster capable of hanging with him believably in a fued in terms of star power, popularity (they'd all still get booed out the building) and accolades are Cena, Punk and Orton.

Of these three I agree with the majority that Punk is the best candidate and is way ahead of Bryan. I like Bryan and think he has done very well recently, the crowd reaction he has generated post-mania has shocked me and is a good thing.

Yet for all that I just don't think a fued with him and Austin would be all that great. Granted he is great in-ring and would be more capable than most of carrying the match but ultimately like Rock/Cena the most important aspect of an Austin fued would be the build and mic-work.

For all the progress he has made, I just don't think he could go with Austin on the mic, there are not many who can. I think Punk with the whole straight-edge vs beer-monster angle would be far better and could bring about some fantastic back and forth promo work and a solid build.

Bryan's ideal opponent would have been Bret Hart were he still capable of putting on a decent match in a simple, no-frills fued that would be all about wrestling.

 

[roussel]

No

I don't like seeing wrestlers of a certain age who have retired years ago return to the ring - it tends to ruin the happy (and sometimes rose-tinted) memories you had about them...

 

[supaman5279]

YES!!! is stupid. I think the fans like the concept of it then they do Daniel Bryan. Having him out there just gives them a reason to use it. WHAT? works mostly because it's a question. When a heel cuts a promo(WHAT?) it works, and it makes sense, which is why I think it stuck around long after Stone Cold hung up his boots. Plus, Austin is the man and "WHAT?" was such a small part of his illustrious career. YES! however is the greatest thing that ever happened to Daniel Bryan, which is pretty sad considering he just finished a pretty fair Heavyweight Title run. Daniel Bryan vs Stone Cold would be interesting. Bryan's submission style and lack of big power moves would allow Austin to have a match with very few big bumps. But what am I saying, Daniel Bryan has proven nothing to be allowed anywhere near the main event of WRESTLEMANIA..let alone 18 seconds...

 

[HBsam31]

I would much rather see Austin vs Punk. I am a fan of DB, but there really isn't any reason for them to have a match. I guess it could be built, but Punk Austin just seems more of a natural fit for each other. Would definitely have a passing of the torch feel. Of course you have straightedge vs beer drinking there to. Punk could definitely transition into a heel for this match to. If Austin had more than one match and they built DB up some more then I wouldn't mind seeing a match between the two, but not yet.

 

[Marxman1531]

Nope no way... Catchy slogans aside DB isn't in the same league as Stone Cold marketability wise. IF Steve ever comes back it will be against a big name for 1 last match. Steve wouldn't waste his return on DB. Nor does Daniel deserve a rub like that yet.

 

[Brahma_Bull9]

lol I think this thread is a good example as to why Daniel Bryan is getting such a good reaction.

In London it was a lot of people, but it isn't a crazy amount... He just has fans that are crazy about them, like making this thread, while last week Yea vs What would have been great because London was a great crowd but I don't know where in the U.S. you could bank on that. NY, Chicago, Boston, Philly? I just don't see Bryan fans right now having the numbers everywhere...

 

[GameOver]

Why in the blue are people jumping on the Yes bandwagon, it's so stupid.
It's not the perfect timing of What!!! Austin What!!! left gaps What!!! for the audience What!!! to get involved What!!!

Bryan is just repeating Yes over and over it's so lame and the sheep in the audience lap it up.

 

[Dmbfantomas]

Yes! Is my favorite crowd chant of all time, and it's only going to get better.

It's great, it's funny, the people seem to like it, and of course...

Si! Si! Si!

 

[b the man]

Okay so obviously anybody who has been paying attention to WWE lately knows about the huge popularity and momentum that Daniel Bryan has been receiving from the fans with his Yes! Yes! Yes! chants. It has gotten so popular that people chant it even though he is a heel character (for now). And they even chant it when he isn't around or part of the promo. And to further confirm how popular it has become, there is even discussion on whether or not Yes! has become the catchphrase to finally replace the long-running What? chants. Now here is my question: Is Daniel Bryan truly over with the fans? Or is it just the Yes! Yes! Yes! chants? Think about this for a moment; obviously Daniel Bryan is a tremendous wrestler and he has always had his loyal fans, but would people be as excited to see him without the Yes chants? To compare with Austin, Stone Cold was over with the crowd even without the What chants. The question is, could or would Daniel Bryan be as over without the Yes chants?

 

[The Mountie]

I possibly would have voted for the second option...if I could have voted.

Without the YES YES YES chants I feel the crowd would still view him in the same light as before. Some loved him (like myself), some hated him and some were simply not fussed. However, I don't think that this is a negative point. Bryan should be credited for persisting with the chants in his entrance and his awesome heel work work. The crowd loves a good heel and his chants are something that the crowd can easily be apart of.

 

[GeneralKarim]

I think he is definetly over as a heel, he plays a pretty good one.As a face he got a little boring since he didnt have good mic work ( more because he didnt have a good angle ).

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

He was already pretty over before it but the "Yes" "Yes" "Yes" is definitely helping. Why not it's catchy and has caught on with the crowd. It's a hook to help Bryan marketable similar to how Austin's "3:16" made Austin more marketable.

 

[Reflection]

During his early days, he was just an internet darling like ryder to me. he wasn't entertaining, his promos sucked, he was still appreciated here, so i didn't give a fuck. But for the last four months, the guy has grown onm me like none other in such a short time. his coward gimmick has done wonders for him- he is more entertaining than ever, he talks some real deal on the mic, and has a great package of character, attire, and entrance theme. you might have noticed that i didnt use the phrase Technical Wrestler anywhere in my post, and that is because being technical can only get you thìs far. but when you have been assigned a great character and you play it great, you are set to be over among the viewers. And if you're not down with that, I've got five words for ya...

 

[SWANTON]

Is he truly over? YES YES YES YES he re named his crossface the yes lock COME ON thats truly over for me
and also i been doing the yes thing way before DB did

 

[George Steele's Barber]

No, he is completely unconvincing as a viable threat to most of the main eventers in WWE. The Yes! chant is fun when it is done well, but to have a chant or catch phrase be truly over it needs to play well in middle America, not just the UK and smarky WM crowds. Give it time to see if it really catches on. I like Daniel Bryan's ring work but he really needs to get some legitimate impressive wins over top main event talent for him to be over. His last six months of success have been cheap and gimmicky, somewhat entertaining but still cheap and gimmicky.

 

[Shotaro]

No, he is completely unconvincing as a viable threat to most of the main eventers in WWE. The Yes! chant is fun when it is done well, but to have a chant or catch phrase be truly over it needs to play well in middle America, not just the UK and smarky WM crowds. Give it time to see if it really catches on. I like Daniel Bryan's ring work but he really needs to get some legitimate impressive wins over top main event talent for him to be over. His last six months of success have been cheap and gimmicky, somewhat entertaining but still cheap and gimmicky.

I'm in two minds on one hand I agree with what you are asking, Bryan isn't a legitimate threat, or at least doesn't often seem to be. Part of the problem with that has been that he spent the first two months of his title reign feuding with the goddamn big show. Bryan is of a size that show could just pick him up, curl him into a ball and dunk him. He kept his title by generally being a damn good heel.

His match with Sheamus at extreme rules will make or break him IMO. I don't think he needs to win but he needs to take Sheamus right to the wire in that match in order for him to gain some credibility back post wrestlemania.

Bryan at the minute is over. I think the chants help but they're not everything. Ultimately if he wasn't over the crowd wouldn't be chanting yes! I the first place.

 

[BreezyDaProtege]

I been liked DB but its hard to tell if he is OVER for the long haul and not just because of an 18 second loss at WM and people just rallying behind him to go against the grain. When I say over for the long haul I mean not a Zack Ryder who people was behind just to see a change only for it to fizzle.

 

[willross]

As a babyface he was pretty vanilla and wasn't getting that great of a reaction. He was over with people who knew him as Bryan Danielson but to the rest of the audience, he was very meh.

I really had little interest in him until the whole "Yes" chants started happening and now I am thoroughly invested in his character. He must stay heel because a babyface doing an obnoxious chant like "Yes" wouldn't work most likely, atleast not right now.

I heard that "Yes" chants have broken out during Yankee games and Miami Heat games. I even heard on "Busted Open" a Sirius XM radio show from a call-in, that people on flights have done the "Yes" chant when they landed rather than the usual clapping and applause. If that is even remotely true, it can be bigger than "What".

 

[ITrippedTheShockmaster]

If you mean "over" as getting the crowd to pay attention to him and mark out either way, then yes (pun intended), he is truly over. The "Yes!" chant is his shtick. Every superstar has their trademark look, saying, moves, etc., all to package the overall character and try to get fans to either cheer or boo that character. As has been said before, "Yes!" is the new "What?" He's taking it and running with it. Hell, he renamed the LaBell Lock the "Yes! Lock" and mocked Gene LaBell. I think that's a good way to bring some more heat to his character.

If you mean "over" as in a legitimate player in the heavyweight championship picture, then I say maybe. The IWC has clamored over him for years, begging for him to get the respect he deserves as a great technical wrestler. Well, he finally makes it to the big stage and some feel he had to "sell his soul" a bit to play the game, and people immediately think he's not over. I like the guy. I like his character. I like that he's a sound technical wrestler in an era where that's not the focus anymore. He's had a decent run as of late, and I think he could have solid runs with the top guys. I can see the possible drawbacks of his size, lack of charisma and overall package as a character being blamed for him not having a long run at the upper part of the card. I think he's improving on the mic a lot and with his charisma as well. Let's just give this a little more time to develop and see how it goes.

Would he be over without the "Yes!" chant? I think he would. His current character has been pretty fun to watch develop, especailly with the way he's interacted with A.J. and the wrestlers he's been working with - Big Show and Sheamus. They gave him a shot and put the belt on him for a while to see if he could draw, and I think it was fairly successful. The fact that they made him drop it in 18 seconds was kind of a raw deal to me, but playing off that right now with his current run to make him more of a pissed off heel is brilliant.

 

[JaylisJayP]

I think people were just looking for the next stupid thing to chant in the crowds...and Daniel Bryan had it half right - they're mocking, but I don't think they're mocking him, they're mocking Vince because they know Bryan's popularity burns Vince up.

He's improving all-around everyday on the mic and staying strong in the ring, but I don't think he's over. I always answer the "over" question with another question. Would he move buyrates at a PPV? No, not to the masses. So, no, he's not over...yet.

 

[dylanjashe]

In my opinion Bryan just doesn't have that 'IT' factor to really justify having Austin pass the torch to him at the grandest stage of them all, maybe in a few years but right now or even by next year I don't think he'll be ready for the sort of expectations that having that big a match would bring.
For me it either has to be Punk just because as other posters have pointed out he has that Straight Edge v beer drinking red neck and also the fact that they rose to the top with anti company gimmicks. Plus Punk is the man right now and deserves the rub of facing a legend the most!!

 

[Whopperle]

The Yes Chants still need to pick up with the general audience. At Wrestlemania was a Smark-Crowd, in the London there is generally a louder crowd. I think in big cities (we will see at Extreme Rules in Chicago) the chant is really over, but it will take some time for smaller towns to get the chant over. However I think/hope the chant will catch on with smaller crowds as well, which will ultimately put Bryan over.