I knew wwe would edit the crowd at smackdown. Another gutless move by Vince McMahon. I have a feeling that Bryan's rematch will go 1 of 2 ways: (1) Another really short job match just like wrestlemania or (2) Bryan gets thrown into a world championship match with 2 or 3 other challengers and that is his "rematch".
*MERGED* All "YES!"/Daniel Bryan Discussion [KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!!]
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BreezyDaProtege
Occasional Pre-Show
Keep DB the way he is since the crowd is eating it up. Turning him face will cheapen it all and water him down. It shouldnt matter if he is face or heel cause of cheers/chants, since the biggest face in the WWE gets more booed every night
the_mighty_biggs
Occasional Pre-Show
I dont like Brian
never liked him on NXT never liked him after they rehired him then when he won MIB he said he woud cash in at wrestlemania instead he took a cheap win at a minor PPV and then lost in 15 seconds at mania.
the guys a great wrestler but I rather see him in the IC or US title scene
never liked him on NXT never liked him after they rehired him then when he won MIB he said he woud cash in at wrestlemania instead he took a cheap win at a minor PPV and then lost in 15 seconds at mania.
the guys a great wrestler but I rather see him in the IC or US title scene
Peoples_Champ
Bra & Panties match winner & NEW...
I would love WWE to keep him going as a tweener character but more towards a face. WWE has a shortage of quality faces, and in the end that's their bread and butter (kids want a face t-shirt).
DBD can be effective either way, but personally, I would prefer to see him as a face right now. If it doesn't work out they can turn him heel again.
DBD can be effective either way, but personally, I would prefer to see him as a face right now. If it doesn't work out they can turn him heel again.
It's probably their best option. Normally I'd be against just turning a guy face just because he gets a few cheers, but the fact is the power of Daniel Bryan alone managed to get people to complain about Sheamus despite being incredibly over beforehand and he's basically one of the most well loved and chanted things on TV. Who knows if it will continue, but if he doesn't get some of his heel heat back soon, then yeah, he needs a switch back to face.
Have him tween for a few months. If he goes face then Sheamus needs to go heel the only problem it would be almost a TNA-like move to switch roles so quickly. It really is a tough call it's inevitable that Bryan will go face if the "Yes" trend continues. I feel if they look back at Austin's transition and use a similar formula it can go over great. CM Punk's face turn should have been done more that way vs "I dropped a pipe bomb" = instant face.
TWJC: The Beginning
Royal Rumble Winner
Cena gets boos from people who buy shirts, make signs, and talk nonstop about how much they hate him (he's a heel to them). Cena acts like a babyface, but that action makes him a heel to some.
Daniel Bryan acts like a heel, but gets cheers. If the WWE is smart, they have him do the same stuff. Eddie Guerrero was a babyface who acted pretty heelish. Why not do the same thing?
Daniel Bryan is best as the smart ass, semi-chickenshit heel. In ROH at his peak he was the same way. He'd say jackass things then run from Roderick Strong or Nigel McGuinness all match, eventually outsmarting/outlasting them.
Daniel Bryan acts like a heel, but gets cheers. If the WWE is smart, they have him do the same stuff. Eddie Guerrero was a babyface who acted pretty heelish. Why not do the same thing?
Daniel Bryan is best as the smart ass, semi-chickenshit heel. In ROH at his peak he was the same way. He'd say jackass things then run from Roderick Strong or Nigel McGuinness all match, eventually outsmarting/outlasting them.
Danielson_Gr
Dark Match Winner
The fans in attendance are idiots?And who are you?Are you Stephen Hawking or an other genius to call them idiots?
As for the Yes! chants i respect your opinion that it is a ****** chant for you.
For other in the other hand who are attending live events maybe it is a easy and fun think to chant so the time will tell.
Also the What chants and the Wooooo are as ****** as the Yes! chants but they are fun as hell thing to say.
TWJC: The Beginning
Royal Rumble Winner
The guy who says "everyone else is dumb" is usually the idiot. The customer is never wrong. If a guy is over and doesn't hurt people in the ring, he's good. That's the goal, that's the job, that's what they care about. Daniel Bryan meets both of these.
the "YES" gives the fans something so they feel like a part of the show. It's fun for them. The other guy needs to stop thinking wrestling should be a sporty contest where we clap out of courtesy for a show of athleticism.
Well it looks like their keeping him heel for now, since he ridiculed the crowd and they were editing out some of his YES chants at the end of his promo last night. And that's how it should be. He's only been a heel for 3 months and he's never been interesting as a face.
BigRedMachine88
Dark Match Winner
I think the best reference for this is Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Rock. Stone Cold was built up as a heel, but the crowd loved him so much he got cheered. But instead of immediately turning him babyface, he kept the same attitude and the fans reaction basically made him a face.
Whereas the Rock was initially booked as a babyface, but the crowd hated the character, so he turned heel, became the trash talking Rock we all know and love, and the crowds got behind him. Once he turned face he didn't stop being an arrogant jerk because that's what got the crowd behind him in the first place.
Bryan should just keep doing what he's doing (maybe lay off the vegan thing) and stay the arrogant heel, and let the crowd will decide whether they want to cheer or boo him.
Whereas the Rock was initially booked as a babyface, but the crowd hated the character, so he turned heel, became the trash talking Rock we all know and love, and the crowds got behind him. Once he turned face he didn't stop being an arrogant jerk because that's what got the crowd behind him in the first place.
Bryan should just keep doing what he's doing (maybe lay off the vegan thing) and stay the arrogant heel, and let the crowd will decide whether they want to cheer or boo him.
I just had this random thought for the possibility of Stone Cold vs Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania. Daniel Bryan has all the momentum in the world right now. Everyone is hopping onto the "YES!" bandwagon. They have acknowledged it with giving him a new T-Shirt, Working it into script, as well as making the comparison to Stone Cold's "WHAT?". Do you think this has the capability to launch them into a feud? Everyone has mentioned CM Punk vs Stone Cold, but do we want another face vs face match? What would the feud be about? Who's the bigger rebel? A match like this would do wonders for Daniel Bryan's career rather win or lose. They could immediately jump into the feud with Daniel Bryan calling Stone Cold out and telling him that he's a bigger icon in the business and that "Yes!" has taken over. Stone Cold could come out and give him a stunner resulting in Daniel Bryan seeking revenge while still allowing him to act cowardly at the same time. Let me know what you think. I'm not saying this is exactly likely because i doubt they would put Daniel Bryan in that big of a match but what do you think of the idea itself? YES! VS WHAT?
Terry Gyimah
Championship Contender
No, Bryan isn't worthy to face Stone Cold much less be in the same ring as Stone Cold Steve Austin, now Punk on the other hand he is actually worthy or even John Cena or even The Miz, they are more worthy of facing Austin than Bryan is
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
It could be a great program if WWE built Bryan up over the course of the next year and was booked to come off as equal to Austin by the time the build for their WM match came about. Bryan is the sort of heel, an arrogant douche who has really gotten a swollen head since winning the WHC, that a Texas redneck would love to stomp a mudhole through.
It's ultimately FAR too soon to say what will happen. If Bryan's popularity continues to grow throughout the year and WWE doesn't turn him face, then there's a possibility it could go down. Personally, however, I don't think it will happen. While I said it's FAR too soon to say what will go down, the WWE is allegedly already in serious talks & discussions regarding the top matches for next year's WM. One of those matches being discussed, allegedly, is CM Punk vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. In past interviews, Austin has stated that he's a huge fan of Punk and would love to work with him at some point. Punk vs. Austin would most definitely have a "pass the torch" type of feeling to it.
It's ultimately FAR too soon to say what will happen. If Bryan's popularity continues to grow throughout the year and WWE doesn't turn him face, then there's a possibility it could go down. Personally, however, I don't think it will happen. While I said it's FAR too soon to say what will go down, the WWE is allegedly already in serious talks & discussions regarding the top matches for next year's WM. One of those matches being discussed, allegedly, is CM Punk vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. In past interviews, Austin has stated that he's a huge fan of Punk and would love to work with him at some point. Punk vs. Austin would most definitely have a "pass the torch" type of feeling to it.
Rammsteinerteen
Getting Noticed By Management
Worthy? Is wrestling feudal society to you?
On the other hand, I would disagree with DB vs Stone Cold. Stone Cold said he'd only face CM Punk if he was to ever wrestle again. John Cena would also be great, much better than his match with The Rock.
And as for The Miz, are you f*cking kidding me? Miz would probably have fun exchanges on the mic, but in the ring? Miz can't wrestle for shit. Daniel Bryan is more "worthy" just for that reason. It's called Pro Wrestling isn't it? No matter what WWE wants to call their brand.
If Austin has 3 or 4 more matches in him then YES! I agree more build up with Bryan will be needed because for now he needs to build himself up more with the 18 second loss still looming over his head. There is a year to build him back up and make DB look like a main event player....
The only connection Daniel Bryan has to Austin is that the fans replaced Austin's "What?" chant with "Yes!" To me, that's not enough to create a feud between two guys who have wrestled in completely different generations.
At least CM Punk has a philosophical opposition to Austin, despite the respect Punk has for Austin's achievements he has to be disturbed by Austin's trademark glorification of beer and alcohol. Also CM Punk has bested WWE's top talent in the ring already. Daniel Bryan has yet to defeat guys like Cena, Orton, Sheamus etc.
It's a fun idea, the match would be great no doubt... Honestly though I think it's too early in Bryan's WWE career for that sort of match. Why not Daniel Bryan vs. Shawn Michaels? That would be student vs. teacher, and a possible show stealer at the next 'Mania.
At least CM Punk has a philosophical opposition to Austin, despite the respect Punk has for Austin's achievements he has to be disturbed by Austin's trademark glorification of beer and alcohol. Also CM Punk has bested WWE's top talent in the ring already. Daniel Bryan has yet to defeat guys like Cena, Orton, Sheamus etc.
It's a fun idea, the match would be great no doubt... Honestly though I think it's too early in Bryan's WWE career for that sort of match. Why not Daniel Bryan vs. Shawn Michaels? That would be student vs. teacher, and a possible show stealer at the next 'Mania.
Reflection
is a happier and wiser man
Like a person said above- Bryan is not yet worthy of being in a match with Stone Cold. Steve is a legend, a hall of famer. Daniel on the other hand has only been there for about just three years, most of which has been spent on jobbing. They could do a santino-steve type angle with daniel where he calls out steve for a few weeks and then gets answered with a stunner, but a normal feud between the two- not yet.
No. Sorry I don't want to see Austin back in the ring. With the return of The.Rock, Jericho and Lesnar it has taken the spotlight from some of the other upper tier wrestlers such as Randy Orton and Alberto Del Rio, The Miz, ect. The Undertaker/Triple H was a battle between two veterans that are simply occasional wrestlers at this point in their career. The main event featured a part time wrestler and the WWE title match featured Jericho who could be wrestling one day and with his band touring the next. So last thing I want to personally see is wrestlers from attitude era back in spotlight. Basically wrestlers from the attitude era made WM 28 what it was. Hell DB/Sheamus was cut extremely short and the control over the brands tag match was average at best. But i get it, it is a business. But I say NO! There's absolutely no way an Austin in-ring return would be second tier to anything. Basically I wish WWE would go back to creating opportunities with the stars that have came after Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Triple H, ect. And not just Cena and Punk.
I really only have a one word answer for this:
What!
You say you don't want another face v face thing, yet the crowd will be treating them both as faces by saying their word the loudest. At least with Punk, you can turn him into a heel. Cena v Rock wasn't face v face either, it wasn't heel v heel or face v heel... it purely a feud where the whole concept of face/heel didn't exist, neither wrestler was booked as a face or a heel.
Also as for feuding over a word a crowd says, might as throw in a Miz word here and say Really!?
What!
You say you don't want another face v face thing, yet the crowd will be treating them both as faces by saying their word the loudest. At least with Punk, you can turn him into a heel. Cena v Rock wasn't face v face either, it wasn't heel v heel or face v heel... it purely a feud where the whole concept of face/heel didn't exist, neither wrestler was booked as a face or a heel.
Also as for feuding over a word a crowd says, might as throw in a Miz word here and say Really!?
JaylisJayP
Getting Noticed By Management
If the upper tier were actually drawing, they wouldn't be bringing in the older talent. They killed Randy Orton long before this Marine controversy...moving him to Smackdown destroyed his interest, and I actually still do watch Smackdown from time to time. Cena and Punk are the only 2 current stars that draw at all...and the argument (and certainly the blame from WWE) can be made that even Punk doesn't draw well.
That said, WWE had dug themselves such a huge hole with anti-fan decisions over the years (brand split, PG rating, awful consistency and quality of storytelling and angle completion last year) that not even Rock and Lesnar have bumped the show's ratings up to even close to where they used to be.
Ziggler/Sheamus/Bryan/Orton/ADR/Miz/Truth etc... are all decent personalities. None of them are great. Orton maybe could've been but his mic skills and his move to Smackdown hurt him. The only guy I'm interested in seeing every week other than the older stars and Cena/Punk is Wade Barrett.
It's funny, WWE started going PG to get advertisers and broaden it's fan base to grow and obviously make more money, and since the Attitude Era the buyrates are nothing (yes I know Wrestlemania this year was a success) and the TV ratings are half or less what they used to be. And this has been going on for YEARS...not exactly an endorsement financially that what you thought would work is working. It's not working.
Danger Burger
Thread Killer
It means that more people bought it, thats all. Britney Spears sells more albums than Mozart.
I'm not sure id enjoy a Bryan/Austin fued, or match, though i'm sure both could pull off a great one with anybody! It would be great for crowd interaction in the right place but... I couldnt buy a build between them! Atleast i cant imagine a ligitimate one! Austin's only going to return for a mania match, if he returns at all, and it would need a strong build!! He'd have a better chemistry with Punk, maybe Cena (sure, the rock can talk a little smack with his clear homophobic undertones, but austin is a whole other level of trash-talkin). Thats just my two cents though!
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