*MERGED* All "YES!"/Daniel Bryan Discussion [KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!!]

[Sheamus' Suntan]

Another Daniel Bryan thread from me? Really? I swear, Samuel Hessingstock/Bishi you come on these forums once in a year JUST to post a really annoying Daniel Bryan thread and then you disappear again and you add nothing to such valuable posts as "Brock Lesnar has returned OMGGGGG!"

I imagine that's what a few of you are saying. I also imagine the majority of you don't care. But yeah. Anyways.

Last nights RAW, I have to admit the crowd was on it more than I expected. Miami is hit or miss, I thought the mania crowd missed it a bit, they weren't as strong and as loud as they could have been but the American Airlines...they were crazy. They were EXACTLY as a crowd should be - hot ALL night.

Now It's been a while IMO since we had a crowd that hot. They really wanted to be heard and made the WHOLE night on RAW that much better. The effect of the crowd really is huge for me, I actually end up skipping matches if the crowd isnt into them. It's bad, I know.

So here I am, watching RAW. I'm watching it, expecting a lot of reaction for the Rock.

Rock starts talking, crowd responds...
"YES!"

Okay. Fair enough. Bit odd, considering Bryan is NOWHERE NEAR the levels of The Rock, but ok.

CM Punk faces Mark Henry.
EVERY SINGLE MOVE Punk got in...
"YES!"

Cena talks. The crowd "YES's" all over him.
Now I saw a thread titled Yes = What? But I REALLY don't think it's the case because it's happening everywhere, not just with speech. I'm starting to think that "YES!" has just become THE tool to launch Bryan from being "The lil man that could" to ACTUAL Superstar of WWE. This isn't just the Bryan mark in me coming out...I swear.

Let's look at it. Bryan has created something the crowd have got behind. It happens once in a blue moon. They tried it with Punk and his "pipebomb" and no-one took off with it. They've tried it several times and EVERY time "WHAT?" has come back full circle...but suddenly "YES!" has become the big thing to chant. It's simple, effective, easy to say and easy to remember. Most of all, it's as ANNOYING as just about ANYTHING that's ever come into the WWE...especially as annoying as "WHAT?"

Now I'm not drawing comparison between Yes and What, I'm saying here that when you think of "WHAT?" you think of Stone Cold. When you think of YES! you think of Bryan. Bryan, with every single time that is being chanted, is getting further and further into the realms of stardom, he's finally fully made it IMO.

He had done very well when it came to the World title but he wasn't as over as this.

So...
Do you see the "Yes!" as Bryan's chance to become HUGE in the WWE?
Will the "Yes" be a passing thing or is it something that is here for good?
Can the over use of "YES!" become the tool that turns Bryan back face eventually? How would you book it?

 

[MaverickAZ]

Miami crowd was pretty pumped. My question is, was this just a mere continuation of the WM crowd , or will the overwhelming chants and responses towards Daniel Bryan continue throughout the weeks ahead??

When Attitude era took off, fan response pretty much dictated face/heel, feuds, etc. But in the last few years, no matter how a crowd reacts (see John Cena), the characters pretty much dont budge

Now, we had Daniel Bryan as a face until the point he cashed in MITB, then slowly turning him into a heel, pairing him up with AJ. He as getting pretty damn good heat for the last month or so

But ever so slightly, the YES chants have took off, and boy did they ever this past weekend at WM and RAW especially

Does this change anything?? Im not sure what D-Bry can do to get tons of heat now, certaintly not with Sheamus. Interesting to see how this goes from here. Imagine a CM Punk-Daniel Bryan feud now with the huge reaction Bryan is getting lately, crowd would be at a frenzy.

 

[Ithil]

I think this craze is sort of a protest as a response to not getting what we paid for at Wrestlemania where they had DB lose in 18 seconds.

I see a lot of people saying this, like they're only cheering for Bryan because he was squashed.

The problem is Bryan was getting a big pop and YES chants at WM before the squash, as he came to the ring. The crowd were very much behind him and eager to see him wrestle a match. The fact that they squashed him just infuriated the crowd, and they were chanting for him the whole first hour of the show, until the Taker/HHH match which finally took their minds off it.

The YES thing and Bryan in general has caught on, even before WM 28, this has simply solidified it.

Now, the intensity of the YES and DANIEL BRYAN chants last night, even during a Rock promo, was partially as a protest to his awful treatment, but you didn't see such a reaction to Chavo getting squashed at WM did you? Likewise the massive boos for Sheamus, who is normally solidly over, were in protest to the squash match decision. They're not unlike some Cena boos, where it's more directed at the booking and lame character, than Cena, the guy (who is a great guy, no question).

Had Sheamus won the title after a hard fought and impressive 15 minute match, there wouldn't be such a backlash. However, it IS important to note that it's not just protesting someone being squashed at WM in a World title match, it's WHO was getting squashed, too.

Bryan was over before WM, and he's gotten more over after it.

 

[PunkIsGod]

Sheamus got booed when he comes out, and D-Bryan catchphrase was chanted by a big number offans through the whole night. We should wait and see if this was only a Miami thing or the trend continues. A face turn for Bryan could be in the horizon depending of the reaction he gots in the future shows. also, the World Heavyweight Championship reign for Sheamus could change if people start booing him from this point. Putting Sheamus in an apparent feud with Del Rio will do nothing for him as a babyface. Del Rio isn´t taken seriously by the fans.

 

[M3420]

I still have a chance to say that " 'YES,' i do think that 'YES' has a chance to become the new 'WHAT' "

As a few others pointed out, that had to be the hottest crowd I have heard in years last night...

Regretfully, I didn't attend the Money in the Bank PPV last year, but I think it's safe to say that a crowd hasn't been that hot since that PPV, and actually last night's was louder because it was loud throughout rather than for one match.

I'm not really a Daniel Bryan fan for the record, and for those out there complaining that he was mistreated by the quash match, I think he still has a chance now because the crowd has grabbed onto this yes thing and depending on how it goes over across the map, it could almost become the successor to 'WOO' and 'WHAT' (never really liked 'WHAT,' but there's no denying the effect it had on the crowd and for Stone Cold, who was actually also a heel when that slogan came out.)

Not sure if I feel like posting on multiple threads today or not, but I am very excited about the upcoming months in WWE!!!!!

 

[BK Styles]

I think everyone needs to slow down with comparing YES to WHAT. Last nights crowd was fucking ridiculous, and they helped make a very good show into an awesome show. Anywhere else, there wouldn't have been as much DB love (or Del Rio love, for that matter) and there wouldn't have been as many boos for Sheamus. Hell, I doubt we would have had a We Want Lesnar chant.

The Yes chant, as awesome as it was, may not catch on in other live venues, just like Bryan probably won't be cheered as much, and Sheamus won't be booed as much. Then again, it was brilliant and most people seem to love it, so who knows? It's about time there was something new to chant.

 

[too many hashtags]

the best part of the yes! chants was when they turned into ci! chants when alberto del rio came out to confront sheamus. it was clear he was generally amused by it too

 

[Peoples_Champ]

I think its absolutely awesome that DBD is getting over. Technical wrestlers are generally harder to get over initially, but when they do, they stay over (Punk, HBK, Bret are all wrestlers that come to mind).

Here's hoping they don't lose DBD's momentum like they did with Punk last summer. I don't want to see DBD face Sheamus for the title, but I do want to see DBD have a strong, main event face push from here on.

Also, the post-Raw video where he was bullying AJ might be counter to WWE's "BA*" message, but it damn sure is entertaining.

 

[chilly]

I would LOVE to see where this goes... I have a strong feeling that those chants were laregly due to the crowd that was there. That crowd was HOT & that's because of all of the smart wrestling fans at WM & RAW, not just the average little kid fan & family.

Last night's RAW was AWESOME

 

[Peoples_Champ]

I would LOVE to see where this goes... I have a strong feeling that those chants were laregly due to the crowd that was there. That crowd was HOT & that's because of all of the smart wrestling fans at WM & RAW, not just the average little kid fan & family.

Last night's RAW was AWESOME

Someone posted in the LD last night that the crowd seemed pretty damn smarky. I guess it makes sense, only hardcore fans are going to come from out of town to watch WrestleMania and those are the ones that are going to stay for Raw the next night as well. A bunch of smarky, hardcore fans in one place makes for interesting chants.

I guess that's the way it should be, the mass of people that traveled from all over the world should influence the direction of one of the main characters.

 

[boywithbluehanger]

Who was the last superstar who had their catchprase chanted during a ROCK promo? None I can think of since Austin. I could give you Cena, but not nearly to the extent that DB's "YES!" was going.

How soon we forget.. The Rock was giving a speech months ago when everyone was chanting "We want Ryder!!" and "Woo Woo Woo"

As a matter of fact, the ranting and raving for him at Survivor Series is what resulted in his major push. I think this is just history repeating itself. Not to mention that DB did actually get screwed over the night before RAW on the biggest stage. And to add insult to injury, all of the internet fans who saved up to purchase tickets to be there in Miami probably felt slighted that their respected hero was squashed in 18 seconds...

 

[Fisheatppl]

How soon we forget.. The Rock was giving a speech months ago when everyone was chanting "We want Ryder!!" and "Woo Woo Woo"

As a matter of fact, the ranting and raving for him at Survivor Series is what resulted in his major push. I think this is just history repeating itself. Not to mention that DB did actually get screwed over the night before RAW on the biggest stage. And to add insult to injury, all of the internet fans who saved up to purchase tickets to be there in Miami probably felt slighted that their respected hero was squashed in 18 seconds...

Okay, fair enough. I did miss Survivor Series, thanks to The Miz.
But still, its rare, and to the extent they were screaming "yes" on raw, during the rock's victory speech, as well as the rest of the night, and including the fact that Bryan is a heel, I'd still say this was above that. Never have I ever seen a crowd chant one heel superstar like that all the way through an entire episode. From interupting Rock, to interupting Sheamus and Del rio, to Punk and Henry's match, all the way through to where John Cena had to mention it at the end, it was amazing, crazy, and all thanks to Vince McMahon screwing him over.

 

[Jenna.]

I've mentioned before in a DB thread that I can't stand his character and I can't stand him as a wrestler, I think he's boring as hell. But I did say what remotely entertained me was the Yes chains because they were just so over the top. You can't help but laugh. A few weeks later and months later this chant has been so damn popular I have a feeling we're gonna get Yes shirts in the wweshop soon. I'd buy it. Lol

 

[TLK]

Well the YES chants are part of his character because that's who he is - cocky, loud and obnoxious. I hope they don't turn him face because I think his character is a big reason the chants have taken off.

 

[flawd101]

the IWC loves DB and heels. it was genius how they turned him heel. his heel character is much better than his boring face character. the YES chant is just the start to what i think will be a great heel run for DB. he went from wm dark match to defending champion in one year and i think his 2012/2013 run has more potential.

 

[RussellMania]

If you're a wrestling fan in general you have to hope that this takes off and isn't a short lived thing. Daniel Bryan is a great wrestler and has been busting his ass for ten years to get to this level. I was at WrestleMania sunday night and it was incredible to hear the chants of YES! everywhere you went. I honestly haven't seen anything like it. Hopefully Vince capitalizes and strikes while the iron is hot and does the right things to elevate Daniel Bryan.

 

[boywithbluehanger]

I think the commentary nerds to start acknowledging the responses from the crowd more. It's harder to use the audience in an angle when you don't make mention of how they respond to the actions of the wrestler. For example, it shouldn't have taken 5 years for the WWE to create an angle acknowledging the fact that Cena gets mixed crowd responses and at Monday Night, there should have been a "What??! What the hell??!! I don't know Cole but I think I'm hearing...Daniel Bryan chants?????!!!" a simple soundbite like that is something that can be used in a video package for the next upcoming episode and helps further the storyline.

But disregarding how the crowd is responding makes it harder to push a rare crowd-related storyline (such as the one many seem to be hoping for) along.

 

[SportsComedian]

Haha, just watched the Smackdown broadcast, and they clearly edited out the loud YES chants from the crowd. When he was coming out and when he dumped AJ you could see everyone chanting yes in the audience, but it was barely heard on TV.

Also an editing in of boos when Bryan dumped AJ when they were clearly chanting YES. WWE wants to control the fan response to him, that's for sure. Thank goodness for live Raw.

 

[#BabyFace]

We all know the fury of "YES" chants we have heard and all though it is a little early to tell, Daniel Bryan is becoming the most over superstar in WWE. Tonight. on SmackDown, they tried to make Daniel Bryan sound more heel by dissing AJ and saying the crowd is mocking him.
Although the idea of WWE is to try to get him over with heat....as of tonight...it's not working. I dont think WWE could even hide it with a fake reaction tonight on SD because evem when Daniel Bryan would use heel tactics, they were still cheering YES. When he broke up with AJ, the crowd was singing "Na Na Na Na" to her.


My point is, that do you think WWE is going to keep force feeding Daniel Bryan as a heel? Or are they going to let the crowd make him a face again.

I wouldnt mind him being a face again, SmackDown could use it if they are having Del Rio staying over there.

Faces could be Orton, Sheamus, and Bryan.
Heels could be Del Rio, Christian, Kane.

It is a tough subject since Daniel Bryan has done such a great job as a heel.


What do you think the WWE should do about Daniel Bryan?

 

[vampireblade]

Hard to say in this situation but I will say they turn him face just because as the crowds have so far shown they are going to cheer him so with that in mind I believe that they will keep him heel to see if they can make it work if they cannot then he will be face.

 

[ITALIAN NYC]

Heres what pisses me off. WWE does this all the time.

The reason these people get cheers are because they are heels in the first place and have that attitude. The minute that WWE hears heels get cheered, they turn them face. They did it to Orton and it ruined him. I personally cheer the bad guys.

If WWE turned Bryan face because of the cheers ( which are mostly from the males and adults ), it will ruin his character. At least IMO

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Remember that time CM Punk was a great heel, and then he turned into complete shit as the character he currently is.

Yeah lets not make the same mistake with Bryan. They've worked hard to build him up as a heel. He wasn't worth a fuck when he won the title. It seemed as if he would have lost the title prior to WM28, he'll I thought Henry was walking out of Rumble as champion but they made Bryan something special, he became interesting and the story with AJ made him even better. Then he kept winning, he kept getting better, his promos, his matches everything improved.

His character got interesting and he started to grow on the fans, but if they turn him face now based off of the crowd reaction it will backfire, ah la la Ryder...

Leave him heel, leave him cocky, and leave his character alone.

 

[The Crock]

I'm not sure what approach the WWE will take with Daniel Bryan, but the crowd is hugely starting to get behind him. Since WrestleMania, the fans have been chanting for him relentlessly (outside of WWE events too); Daniel Bryan is getting over with the crowd, BIG TIME. Now, I don't necessarily think the WWE has to turn him face in this situation. It would probably be smartest to just let this play out organically -- let the fans determine whether or not Bryan will be a face or a heel. The situation is reminiscent of Randy Orton a few years ago, the cheers were overtaking the boos, so Orton made a natural transition. The same thing can happen with Daniel Bryan here.

I'm not sure this will turn out seamlessly, though. If the WWE wants to keep Daniel Bryan in the title picture, then he won't be able to play a face -- unless they want a face/face feud with Sheamus, which wouldn't work. If the crowds continue to drown out whoever Bryan is facing, it would be disastrous to have him go up against a guy like Sheamus, who is really starting to build loads of momentum. Then again, you never really know how the crowd will react. I'm just excited to see how this plays out over the coming weeks. This could either be a trend, or we could see this become a definite mainstay on WWE programming. The WWE is in a pretty good spot with Daniel Bryan here, honestly.

 

[boywithbluehanger]

I wanted to shoot my TV at how noticeable the overlapping crowd noises were filtered in during the Daniel Bryan segment. What really didn't make sense about them doing it was that it played into the angle that they were executing!! AJ and DB made direct references to the YES! chants and overall fan support and yet they STILL overlapped much of it!! Its incredibly baffling why they're trying to manipulate the crowd noises when the storyline (in that very moment) was made in correlation to the actual feedback that was given.

I feel like I'm overreacting but it honestly did ruin what seemed like a rare amount of non-fake emotion from the audience on Smackdown.

 

[vampireblade]

I am loving this gimmick he is using i've been on his band wagon since ROH and I will admit that when he first came to WWE i was skeptical afraid that they would bury him with him not being a WWE made wrestler but i am happy that he is being used the way he is with the exception of WM but even that became a positive.