John Cena VS The Rock III

WWE4EVA!

Occasional Pre-Show
John Cena vs The Rock I happened at WrestleMania XXVIII and it was tagged "Once In a Lifetime", in that match The Rock defeated John Cena. This year it will be Jon Cena vs The Rock II for the Wwe Championship and it will be tagged "Greatness vs Redemption", and all signs are pointing at a Cena win because The Rock is leaving Wwe after that match.

So if Rock won last year and Cena wins this year that will leave them tied at 1-1 so will wwe promote a third and final match to prove who is the better man.

I have a couple of questions;

1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two

2. What PPV would it be at

3. Who would win

4. Would it work as a Iron Man Match
 
1. Rock vs Cena Round 3. I literally believe this would look more effective than "Thrice in a lifetime" or any other bad tag line.

2. Summerslam - I dont think they would show the same match 3 years in a row at wrestlemania

3. Cena - he is around and is the one still in the company, Its ok for The Rock to win the battle so to say but having one of the company guys lose the war would be silly and make WWE look pointless even though its already scripted outcomes.

4. I honestly dont believe that The Rock could hold his own in an Iron Man match now. I think with the speed that he got gassed against CMPunk there would be no way. He can prove me wrong but I still dont think he could pull it off. A Last Man Standing would be interesting.
 
First of all, the latest reports have The Rock signed on for Extreme Rules so there is no guarantee that Cena wins. However for this, we will play along with the assumption that he does.

1. The tag line could be something simple that movies use....The epic conclusion to the trilogy...

2. I'd like to see it at Summerslam. That way at Mania next year they can face different opponents, perhaps Rock vs Brock and Cena vs Taker.

3. Cena wins. He needs a series win over the Rock to cement his legacy as a headliner. To put him in the class of Hogan, Austin and Rock.

4. There last match was 20 minutes and the Rock looked spent. An Ironman match would be the worst possible idea for these two. A gimmick match would be great, but anything but an Ironman match.
 
1. "The Final Chapter" or something like that would be acceptable if it were to happen.

2. I'd hate to think it'll be at WrestleMania again, so I'm going to go with SummerSlam or Royal Rumble.

3. I think it's got to be Cena, completing the "passing of the torch" which is probably what the WWE will build it as.

4. No, because I honestly don't believe that The Rock could handle an Iron Man match. Last year at Mania and against Punk he looked very gassed, and even with several stoppages in an IM match between the two I just don't think he'd manage it.
 
A third match would certainly not be out of the question. Cena is most likely going to win and thus a tie breaker would be needed. Fans would need to know who the better of the two is, so a 1-1 win/loss ratio would not be acceptable. For the tag line I would use "This time, there won't be a next time!". They would then hype the fact that Cena and Rock have both won a match (assuming Cena gets the likely victory this year) by showing highlights of both matches with emphasis on who won each of the previous two during the video package.

The PPV that I would put the match on would have to either be Wrestlemania or Summerslam. Even Summerslam would be pushing it a bit. None of the other PPV brands are worthy of these types of dream matches. Royal Rumble never seemed like the right place for Rock VS Punk, same goes for Cena VS Lesnar at Extreme Rules. Other shows like TLC or Money In the Bank need to have the focus be on the gimmicked matches. Night of Champions should be about the titles. That leaves us with shows that are viewed as unimportant in comparison to the rest, why waste a match like this at one of those when it is worthy of Wrestlemania 30 or this year's Summerslam?

Cena would win the match. Regardless of whether he wins or loses this year, he would need to win the final match should there be a third match planned. Rock has already accomplished everything he possibly can in the WWE, plus he will be over as a legend and one of the best of all time no matter what he does. Cena on the other hand needs the win now more than ever. He should have won last year's match, he definitely should win this year, and he absolutely 100% without a shadow of a doubt would need to win the final match of the three if they have a third. Rock gains nothing by winning, Cena benefits greatly.

An Iron Man match COULD work, although I'm not sure it's the best match type for them. That's an entire hour. Cena & Orton had one a couple of years ago and the only memorable part of it was when Orton was messing around with the pyro control. It's a match type that should be a rarity and only used when both wrestlers involved know they will be able to entertain for the entire hour. I'm skeptical of that idea but would give it a chance if WWE went that route. As long as it's not another traditional singles matches with no gimmick, where's the fun in that? Some type of gimmik in the third match would work although Iron Man doesn't seem like the best idea there.
 
I doubt there'll be anything of a "tag line" for their next match. I don't think anyone realistically expected there to be only one match between Cena & Rock. There couldn't be. There's too much money at stake. That'd be like not making another Avengers movie despite the first one becoming the third highest grossing film of all time. Cena vs. Rock headlined the most watched wrestling ppv in history so it might even be viewed as irresponsible if WWE didn't at least try to go for numbers every bit as impressive.

As for where their next bout will take place, I'm guessing it'll happen at Extreme Rules. The Rock is scheduled to compete at ER and it's likely that it'll be in a rematch for the WWE Championship against John Cena. The Rock defeated Cena in a standard 1 on 1 match last year and its highly likely that Cena will defeat Rock in a standard 1 on 1 match this year. So in order to see who the "better man" really is, they have a tie breaker that's some sort of no disqualification match.

As to who would win, again, it'd be Cena. After Extreme Rules, The Rock is going back to Hollywood and will probably stay there until very late this year or very early next year to prepare for his role at WM 30.

I'm not sure an Iron Man Match between them would work because there've been questions regarding The Rock's cardiovascular fitness. The Rock is in fantastic shape no doubt, just look at the guy. However, if anything, The Rock is going to focus on becoming even more jacked than ever before, as he's going to be playing Hercules. Because of that, The Rock is going to be even more jacked than he was before. Either The Rock was giving an Oscar worthy performance at selling the effects of his matches with CM Punk, or the guy was gassing.
 
1) The first match was about the match itself with no real personal reason for it. The second is about Rock holding the belt and Cena looking to redeem himself. Personally, I'd have Rock surprise interfere during either the Rumble or EC and have him cost Cena either the title or a title match. Thus: Rock/Cena III: This time, it's personal. I like it because it gives them the ability to book something more along the lines of a traditional face/heel angle instead of a face/face angle like the past two years.

2) Wasting Rock/Cena at Extreme Rules makes no sense. (Well neither did wasting lesnar/Cena so I digress) If they're going to do it, put it as the headline for WM30.

3) Personally, I'd have the match not be for the title. So it would be realistic for either to win. I doubt Rock's done wrestling at that point and his ability to draw dwarfs Cena's so if I had to pick, I'd go with Cena only because of the rub it might give him.

4) Iron Man.... No. Neither man is suited for the type of match. If I was going to have to name a stipulation I'd go with the old school ultimate ending for a feud and put them in a cage or even a 2/3 falls match. But honestly, a 1 on 1, no dq, no countout would suit me just fine.
 
If there is a third match between Cena and The Rock, which is highly likely, these would be my answers to the questions.

1. Thrice in a Lifetime, is halarious.(lol) Too comedic to work though. I like Round 3, and The Final Chapter. I would call it, Greatness Finalized. It would be a Career vs. Career Match because both would say that the WWE isn`t big enough for the two of them.

2. I think it would happen in the Rock`s home away from home, L.A., at Summer Slam. I don`t think they will drag it out another full year tell Mania 30, but you never know with WWE.

3. I can see Cena winning and finally ending the career of the Rock. If the Rock wants to Wrestle at Mania 30, that could be called his Encore Match, and I see him going into the Hall of Fame next year too. This way he could win the final match of his career.

4. I don`t see it working as an Iron Man Match. Like people have said, I don`t think Rock has the endurance for it unless it was really dragged out with a lot of laying around by both parties. I would have it as a Career vs. Career Match, with No Holds Barred Rules. They could throw everything at each other one last time. In the end maybe the Rock finally taps out to Cena, and Raises Cena's hand as the better man after the match.
 
1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two: Cena-Rock: Final Encounter

2. What PPV would it be at: Summerslam. as already stated, I doubt the WWE would have the same match at WM 3 years in a row, if Taker is going to go at WM30, he will battle it out with John Cena. No doubt in my mind.

3. Who would win: John Cena with a career stipulation in place.

4. Would it work as a Iron Man Match: No. As said by nearly everyone, The Rock doesn't appear to have the endurance needed to withstand an hour long match.
 
why is it a waste to have a good match on a 'b' PPV?

I don't know about you guys, but when i pay good money, i want it to be on something that matters.

The only real difference between Summerslam and Extreme Rules is the name.
 
1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two

The Trilogy Ends; it's short, simple and sweet, do it at Summerslam 2014


3. Who would win

John Cena, the full time company guy has to go over



4. Would it work as a Iron Man Match

No, do an I Quit match or a submission match; pit the Rock's Sharpshooter vs the STF; in order to sell the Sharpshooter as a legit threat though, have Rock lock it in for tap outs on people in his matches leading up to the match, Rock may need to wrestle 3-4 tv matches against mid-carders to do this
 
Don't really care for a tagline, but I like Dagger's suggestion of "Next time, there won't be a next time". As for what PPV it could be at? I would say Summerslam but there have been talks of having Lesnar vs. Rock II at the pay-per-view, and like next years Wrestlemania I'd like to see a different main event at Summerslam, so I would go with either Extreme Rules or Over The Limit, if they can get him to agree to stay for OTL before leaving again. I agree with Jack-Hammer that since it is a rubber match, it needs some sort of stipulation to see who the "better man" really is. I mentioned Over The Limit cause I would like to see a Triple Threat match between Punk, Cena and Rock at Extreme Rules first, then at Over The Limit they could have the tiebreaker there. Whether they have the third match at Extreme Rules or Over The Limit though, I personally would love to see them compete in an I Quit match, considering both men's history in I Quit matches, and it would make their match a hell of a lot more unpredictable as to who comes out the winner since nobody could ever see either of the two muttering those two words, "I Quit". To protect both their images though, cause "quitting" would make them look weak, I wouldn't have either men "quit" in the match. Whoever is booked to win can make his opponent pass out to one of their submissions (Sharpshooter or STFU) instead, forcing the referee to end the match. If not a I Quit match, then a Steel Cage match or a No DQ match or anything that doesn't put The Rock's health in jeopardy.
 
First of all, the latest reports have The Rock signed on for Extreme Rules so there is no guarantee that Cena wins. However for this, we will play along with the assumption that he does.

1. The tag line could be something simple that movies use....The epic conclusion to the trilogy...

2. I'd like to see it at Summerslam. That way at Mania next year they can face different opponents, perhaps Rock vs Brock and Cena vs Taker.

3. Cena wins. He needs a series win over the Rock to cement his legacy as a headliner. To put him in the class of Hogan, Austin and Rock.

4. There last match was 20 minutes and the Rock looked spent. An Ironman match would be the worst possible idea for these two. A gimmick match would be great, but anything but an Ironman match.

Steelcage match between the 2 would be better cause cena is no t good in Iron Matches

Cena won t win @ WM29 ROCKY won t job for the people his fans I don t see it he did it for the fans why lose to cena , first off he will lose his fan base second he is promoting GO JOE 3D I don t see him putting cena over
He never did for anyone and certainly not cena. he ll lose it at extreme rules

or somewhere or punk gets involved
 
It could happen at Wrestlemania but it dosent have to be the main event. Heres my point, Rewind the clocks, Stone Cold and The Rock main evented Wrestlemania 15 and 17, there 3rd and final encounter took place at 19 but was held before the main event between Lesnar and Angle. By the time a 3rd match comes around, the steam and excitement for this fued will have wore off so bumping them down the card is not a bad thing just make sure there is an even better match to follow.
 
I don't think there will be a third match; I can't imagine what, for storyline purposes, they'd hope to accomplish with it. If the sole purpose is making money by increasing PPV buys, then we might see it, but there's no logic I can see that makes it feasible, otherwise.

I think the whole Rock-Cena series was devised as a 2-year plan; I don't think they intended to do it once and wound up saying: "Wow, this worked out so great, let's do it again next year!" In negotiations with Dwayne Johnson before WM28, they set it up as a "You beat Cena at WM28 and he beats you at WM29." Whether it was intended Rock be the world champion at WM29 is unknown, but it certainly gives the event an extra boost, no?

Of course, if what I'm suggesting is true, it makes a lie out of the "Once in a Lifetime" tag line used last year, since it was known in advance they were going to repeat the match-up.

To this end, though, I don't know what they could accomplish with a third meeting, at least without including Rock in even more of their pro wrestling plans in the future. I don't believe his intention is to continue his wrestling career past next month's PPV. Sure, we'll probably see him make a guest appearance or two on our TV screens, but I think this "Twice in a Lifetime" program marks the end of his ring career.

Then again, money talks.....and if they make a mint next month, the company might get Rock to come back for WM30 with an offer that includes the moon & stars......but a third meeting with Cena would probably prove to be one too many. If he's going to be there, let him fight someone else.

Someone big.

Undertaker?
 
1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two??
The Tagline could be “One Last Time” or “Career vs. Career” or “Undisputed WWE World Heavyweight Champion” or simply “Rock – Cena III”.

2. What PPV would it be at??
It has to be WrestleMania XXX. Any other PPV would make it seem a little less special than what it should feel like. Austin and Rock battled each other on every PPV and every TV show for that matter, but their 3 WM bouts at XV, X-Seven, and XIX were the “important” ones. This is just as important.

3. Who would win??
I would rather see The Rock win, but it could go either way. I believe John Cena should win for the only reason being is he’s the number one guy right now.

4. Would it work as an Iron Man Match??
Yes, an Iron Man match would work, but I also think any match with a special stipulation would work for the 3rd fight. If they went with the “One Last Time” tagline, they could go with a Last Man Standing match. If they went with the “Career vs. Career” tagline, they could go with a Loser Leave WWE / Retirement match. If they go with the “Undisputed WWE World Heavyweight Champion” tagline, they could go with a Unification match for the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships. If they simply go with the “Rock – Cena III” tagline, they could go with a Special Referee match, with Vince as the Ref and Triple H as the Special Guest Outside Enforcer. Either way, it can’t be a regular one – on – one match and it should just be for one Championship, even if it’s the Richest Prize in the Industry.
 
The tagline would have to be something definite. "This is it" i dunno, anything really.

I like the idea of Cena holding the belt until SumerSlam and the Rock returning for the final encounter. I get that it would be a long time with Cena as champ but he hasn't held the WWE championship for a while and it would fly by. He is very good at getting people over when he feuds with them. Umanga, Edge (as a main-eventer) The Miz.

The alternate to that is The Rock returns slightly earlier and screws Cean out of the belt. That creates obvious tension leading to a rematch. Personally, I prefer them having the third match for the belt. It certainly adds to the match. I think Cena wins the second and third encounter.
 
1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two

There wouldn't be a tag line.

2. What PPV would it be at

Extreme Rules

3. Who would win

Cena

4. Would it work as a Iron Man Match

Rock would die after 35 minutes so no.
 
why is it a waste to have a good match on a 'b' PPV?

I don't know about you guys, but when i pay good money, i want it to be on something that matters.

The only real difference between Summerslam and Extreme Rules is the name.

People complained about them wasting Lensar vs. Cena at a "B PPV" and that was the PPV of the year.
 
I don't think there will be a third match; I can't imagine what, for storyline purposes, they'd hope to accomplish with it. If the sole purpose is making money by increasing PPV buys, then we might see it, but there's no logic I can see that makes it feasible, otherwise.

I think the whole Rock-Cena series was devised as a 2-year plan; I don't think they intended to do it once and wound up saying: "Wow, this worked out so great, let's do it again next year!" In negotiations with Dwayne Johnson before WM28, they set it up as a "You beat Cena at WM28 and he beats you at WM29." Whether it was intended Rock be the world champion at WM29 is unknown, but it certainly gives the event an extra boost, no?

Of course, if what I'm suggesting is true, it makes a lie out of the "Once in a Lifetime" tag line used last year, since it was known in advance they were going to repeat the match-up.

To this end, though, I don't know what they could accomplish with a third meeting, at least without including Rock in even more of their pro wrestling plans in the future. I don't believe his intention is to continue his wrestling career past next month's PPV. Sure, we'll probably see him make a guest appearance or two on our TV screens, but I think this "Twice in a Lifetime" program marks the end of his ring career.

Then again, money talks.....and if they make a mint next month, the company might get Rock to come back for WM30 with an offer that includes the moon & stars......but a third meeting with Cena would probably prove to be one too many. If he's going to be there, let him fight someone else.

Someone big.

Undertaker?

I agree, I think it ending at one win each will satisfy the two sides of the fanbase and avoid any one generation over another issues as Rock is not being presented as a nostalgia act in the way Hogan was.

The counter argument is that you're leaving money on the table but Rock has already said he'll be working WrestleMania 30 so there's still money to be made off him.

If they did wrestle a 3rd match I don't actually see the need for a stipulation, this is not a blood feud built on hatred, it's more a jock rivalry and doesn't really require weapons or cages as it's abut one on one macho bragging rights.
 
I think a third match for Cena and Rock would be a dream come true for the WWE as pushing the rubber match would be a piece of cake for them. If the first match was about respect and the second was about the belt, the third match will be about who is better once and for all.

I disagree with anyone who says this match shouldn't be at WrestleMania. Rock vs. Austin happened at WrestleMania three times, and while Cena certainly isn't as big a star as Austin, he's the biggest star of this generation of wrestling and he might be the biggest superstar wrestling sees for decades to come. I think they'll want to hold off on that match for a year or two, but they can easily get it in before Cena retires.

As for who wins... I love John Cena and he's one of my favorite wrestlers ever. I also can't stand The Rock... but I think the WWE might want to put The Rock over. The Rock is arguably the WWE's greatest success story: a guy who started out as a professional wrestler and wound up being a major Hollywood movie star. Steve Austin, John Cena, Hulk Hogan... they're all better wrestlers than The Rock, but they'll never replicate The Rock's success outside of the business. On the one hand, WWE would want to put over the guy that best represents them, and that's John Cena. On the other hand, the publicity the WWE gets from The Rock performing at WrestleMania is huge, and having him win wouldn't hurt matters.
 
I think Rock/Cena III is not in the cards anytime soon. They know it's better off for both guys to come out with one win each. Like that, they're presented as equals. The Rock came back to put Cena over, but he didn't come back to be made look like his inferior, if that makes any sense.

I do however think that it might be in the cards for Rock's retirement. If Rock sticks around for the next few years, I can see him facing guys like Lesnar, Triple H, Undertaker, Orton, etc. But if he's going to RETIRE, I can see him going out facing Cena.

It just makes sense to end it just like it started, against Cena.

So hypothetically, imagine they do this:

WrestleMania 2013- The Rock vs. John Cena (win)
SummerSlam 2013- The Rock (win) vs. Brock Lesnar
WrestleMania 2014- The Rock vs. The Undertaker (win)
SummerSlam 2014- The Rock vs. Randy Orton (win)
WrestleMania 2015- The Rock (win) vs. Triple H
SummerSlam 2015- The Rock (win) vs. Triple H II
WrestleMania 2016- Title vs. Career: The Rock vs. John Cena (win) III

That's if Rock retires in 3 years. If he sticks around even more, I can see him facing Ryback or Sheamus or some other guys. But as of right now, I think this [or something similar] is the long-term plan.
 
Lol what?

Austin I could understand, Cena? No, but debatable. Hogan?! A better wrestler then Rock? :shrug:

The word "wrestler" doesn't have to refer to ability when it is used in a certain context and could just refer to the fact that they are labeled as a "wrestler" (or sports entertainer) as part of their profession. With that in mind, if his opinion is that Hogan is better in that context, it does make sense. I do believe that is the context that he is using it in since he said that Cena is one of his favorites and that he cant' stand The Rock.
 
I truly hope that it doesn't happen again, the feud this time around simply hasn't been built well enough to sustain a 3rd feud. I'm not arguing it would sell but honestly (this is just my opinion) I have no interest in seeing this a second time let alone a 3rd time.

Now that I'm done bitching onto the question at hand:

1. What would the tagline be for a third match between the two

Rock vs. Cena III. There's really no other tagline it needs.

2. What PPV would it be at

Wrestlemania. I hate to say it but if they in fact have a rubber match Wrestlemania seems like the best bet.

3. Who would win

John Cena. He's the one staying, The Rock isn't above putting wrestlers over let alone the biggest star, yeah Cena would win.

4. Would it work as a Iron Man Match

Maybe but personally I would go with a good ol fashion cage match or HIAC or something like that. A match to cap off the feud, give a payoff and have a definitive winner. Not just a match where someone is losing but someone without a question getting beat.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
174,847
Messages
3,300,827
Members
21,726
Latest member
chrisxenforo
Back
Top