How's it going Captain Obvious.
Cena also slammed Big Show at Mania to win his first singles title. just an FYI
Very good point there, to be honest I find that to be more impressive than what Hogan did to Andre at WrestleMania III, just my opinion and as someone who grew up a Hogan fan, even I had to concede to this point. That's not to say I am being anti-Hogan but I have to call it like I see it on that one. LOL, I do like the sarcasm in opening of your post, it's something I would probably have said if you didn't beat me to the punch.
completely obvious that's what they went for and his character panders to it. the HUGE differences though is Hogan was not despised by half the crowd. Cena is no Hogan when it comes to charisma and draw power, unless qualify people coming to see him get his ass kicked as draw power.
I'm with you on how the crowd feels about Cena but I think enough kids like him to obviously keep him where he's at in terms of his position on the totem pole of WWE. Personally speaking I can't stand the John Cena character but I personally feel that he's been willing to do more in today's WWE than Hogan. Even though I won't confuse Cena for Bret Hart I think he's at least made a better effort at move variety compared to Hogan. I always found the whole big boot and legdrop dynamic to be silly even as a kid but realizing that wrestling is what it is I took all that in good context.
Cena has his equivalents to that with the five knuckle shuffle and the fact they are pushing every conceivable piece of merchandise you can think of with Cena like they did Hogan. But in Cena's defense, the Attitude Adjustment/FU is definitely a better finishing move, Hogan a handful of times finished some of his 1980s matches with a pretty brutal powerslam and to be honest I think he should have used that move more often than the leg drop. However in Cena's case, I feel he had to come up with something more powerful and effective for a finishing move in order to be accepted today. Even though there are parallels between Hogan and Cena, there are some things today that just would not work like they did back then.
outside of the ring, yes they are very similar in appeal.
I agree with you there man, COMPLETELY.
Both are useless "actors" and were involved in relative flops in Hollywood
Well, if you compare movies like No Holds Barred and Mr. Nanny to critically acclaimed work in Hollywood like The Silence Of The Lambs and Braveheart then of course. However, as much as I hate to say it, Hogan's foray into film is what I think has made these spinoff projects from WWE like WWE Studios possible. Trust me if I could have had it my way, I'd have not been to keen to produce those films but for as much as we goof on them and even I admit I found Hogan's movies to be less than appealing compared to watching him on WWF TV, they were successful ventures.
Like I said we do laugh now in a modern context about Hogan's theatrical movie releases, but over the course of 5 years, he had three starring roles in theatrically released films. No other wrestler before him ever had that distinction. There were wrestlers that had cameo appearances in movies and TV.
The fan in me doesn't' care for this concept of wrestlers doing starring parts in movies because I personally feel that despite how the majority of Hogan's WWF and WCW matches were cookie cutter, I felt his movies took away from him being in wrestling. However, Vince wanted to diversify his company's capabilities and scope in the entertainment world and if you trace things back to 1989 with No Holds Barred then you can see that this was quite possibly a catalyst to why we have films like The Marine and The Chaperone now.
In my view, Hogan's foray into starring roles in films is what started this.
Both Hulk up and are kings of no selling or bad selling moves.
The characters are designed to be like this, it's what the super hero characters are supposed to be about, I will admit that as a kid I loved the whole Hulk Hogan act, and I think because I was a fan as a kid I still look back at those moments with sentimentality. But I make no mistake that a lot of those moments have a zaniness. If I was the age I am now back in the 1980s I'd probably not care for the Hogan schtick. However, because I grew up with it, I still have a degree of fondness. But there is no doubting that a Hogan WWF/WCW match was pretty much just a whole affair of superheroics and silliness that you wouldn't see in a match with a performer in the vein of Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.
If they were in the same era with Hogan in his 80's persona and Cena in current. Hogan would outstrip Cena in a ratings war but Cena would be far better technically.
That's a good point on so many levels however, if Hogan were to be in his 80s persona today and competing against Cena, then I think Hogan would have had to up his ante, the Leg Drop must still have been a move he used, but I think it'd take more of a role like the People's Elbow or the Five Knuckle Shuffle, I don't think there's anyway in today's wrestling that the leg drop would be taken seriously as a finisher for Hogan if he was not the established act and instead a modern performer.
Hogan I think would have had to rely more on his powerbase like he did in Japan and in his earlier days, if he was working today as a modern superstar, his backbreaker submission and powerslam would probably be more in use. Because to Cena's credit as much as I am not a fan of his, he's shown he can rise to the occasion in matches.
Hogan would more likely would have had to do the very same thing in today's scene or else he'd probably not have worked as an act.
Anyway man, great post, I like these types of observations and if I got carried away with my reply, I apologize I just really appreciate the observations you made and enjoyed your post.
Thanks boss