John Cena Fans

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PauLwaLL said:
Thats just how the buisness works.. Sometimes a person with a limited sence of wrestling ability can be more entetaining to a majority of people like Cena is over Benoit and etc.. Its not really a bad thing tho.. The WWE is looking for more so entertainment on Raw, and thats why Cena is the champ.. I really dont even mind him being champ anymore, I got used to it..
Well the fact that you HAD to get use to it shows how crappy he is. Plus Cena just really, REALLY does not entertain me a single bit.

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He did'nt "have" to get used to him as if it takes work to get use to something. It takes little to no metal capacity to get use to something. Your brain gets use to things when it dosent have a problem with something anymore or it never did and theres nothing wrong with this.
 
Sometimes all you need is the ability to work a mic. John Cena is one of the best, if not the best in that department in the whole company. Even his biggest detractors have to give that to him (I'm neither a Chain Gang member or a hater). He might have a very limited move set, but a wrestling arsenal is the least of what matters to Vince McMahon - it's how over with the crowd a person is. And whether you love him or hate him, everyone has an opinion on Cena, and that's why he has been in the title picture as long as he has. I would like to see other people get their due (and I was very happy to see Rey Mysterio and Booker T become World Heavyweight Champion for the first time in their WWE runs this year), but Cena is a big draw and that's why he's the champ.

You want to send a message to Vinnie Mac? Give Cena the old "Charlie Haas Pop" when you see him at a live show. That's what you should really do if you don't like him.
 
Charlie Haas pop?

I hate Cena he's destroyed so many credible wrestlers. And Led to the events of why Christian left. When security doesn't let anti-cena signs in an event and vince takes off his opponents merch from shopzone you know somethings wrong...
 
I'm pretty sure "Charlie Haas pop" means give him no reaction at all. It's a shame that someone calls it that, Charlie Haas is a decent wrestler.
 
staticxer said:
Charlie Haas pop?

Basically a nothing Pop.

I hate Cena he's destroyed so many credible wrestlers. And Led to the events of why Christian left. When security doesn't let anti-cena signs in an event and vince takes off his opponents merch from shopzone you know somethings wrong...

I really dont like the amount of Heat that Cena takes from so many people. Personally I dont like the guy much, but I think he deserves credit, where credit is due. The guy is not "bad" in the ring, his moveset has been limited by the WWE, his Gimmick is that which the WWE give to him, he has simply taken what he is given and worked with it. If you are going to blame anyone for Cena, it should be the WWE Creative Team, not John Cena himself. There have been so many Wrestler before that have simply had Mic Work going for them. Austin is a prime example, although he could go in the ring, often his moveset was completely limited to just a few moves, and thats what they are trying to replicate with Cena. Cena is not the best worker, he is never going to be Benoit or Angle, however he is far from a bad worker.

Oh and, how exactly did John Cena cause Christian to leave?
 
Basically Vinces ideas to get Cena cheered was to remove Christians merch from shopzone to get the fans to cheer Cena instead of Christian when they fueded. This was just one of the things that made Christian get pissed enough to leave.
 
John Cena might be getting too much heat but he is keeping down very talented wrestlers like Shelton who are getting too much Sunday Night HEAT.
 
staticxer said:
Basically Vinces ideas to get Cena cheered was to remove Christians merch from shopzone to get the fans to cheer Cena instead of Christian when they fueded. This was just one of the things that made Christian get pissed enough to leave.

So I ask again, how was that John Cena's fault? You just said yourself Vince was the one that ordered his Merch to be pulled. Even if this was true and not just some rumour put around the Internet Vince is the one pulling the strings not Cena, so the heat he is getting is unfounded.
 
Yeah but if cena is drawing enough himself then he should not be pushed and it is that simple. HE needed edge to make him a bonefied face again. It was all because of edge that he is actually getting cheered now. That is not the sign of a good face champ and when a face champ gets booed it just means tehre not doing there job effectively.
John cena has failed to portray an effective face he has needed to be carried along and most wrestlers aint been able to do that for him. HHH FAILED Angle FAILED JERICHO FAILED to get cena over so therefore he deserves his heat for playing a shitta wigga face.

And im saddned by them naming it a charlie haas poop he is more talented in the ring then cena could ever hope to be.
 
I don't. It seems like such a generic pairing for a match. Almost as bad as John Cena paired with Batista. I guess if that can happen so can the other.

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I don't want to see Cena anywheres at all, he is just plain boring, his match with Nitro proved that, what do you know... he wins with the same moves in the same damn order at the end of the match again, it just insults my intelligence.
 
The "Charlie Haas Pop" isn't a term that I came up with - I believe it was used from some hardcore wrestling fans to describe a face wrestler that gets no crowd reaction. But I guess that doesn't apply now with Haas being a heel (and made so in a very dumb angle, with Haas knocking Lilian Garcia off the ring apron unintentionally, taking the ball and running with it). I also enjoy his matches and think he's a very good worker, but he may need to be repackaged if he's going to become anything more than a Heat mainstay. I'm all for the World's Greatest Tag Team being reuinited, as it's better than what either Haas or Benjamin have going on now.
 
all u cena haters need to stop seriously...cena has had tons of great matches to show his ability. or are you people forgetting that he won the elimination chamber match with hbk, angle, masters, carlito, and kane. i mean come on and the tlc with edge. i mean people hate on cena because of the bandwagon thing and its stupid cuz deep down inside everyone knows hes good. and i agree with everyone who has said that hes the man on raw right now whether he gets booed or cheered people go to see him.
 
vicky said:
all u cena haters need to stop seriously...cena has had tons of great matches to show his ability. or are you people forgetting that he won the elimination chamber match with hbk, angle, masters, carlito, and kane. i mean come on and the tlc with edge. i mean people hate on cena because of the bandwagon thing and its stupid cuz deep down inside everyone knows hes good. and i agree with everyone who has said that hes the man on raw right now whether he gets booed or cheered people go to see him.


You do know Cena didnt even wrestler in the elimination chamber match he just got his ass kick until it was just carlito and masters and then he wrestler and yeah he beat edge in the TLC macth big deal edge lost in a TLC macth before cena. face it Nobody who a real Wrestling fan go to see Cena it commen sense
 
Cena fans always use the excuse "the bandwagon" thing but, I disagree. Every fan had their own likes and dislikes when it comes to wrestlers. Just because a large amount of people dislike Cena doesn't mean it's because it's the "it" thing to do. And it isn't about winning matches since all the matches are booked. I don't usually judge a wrestler on how many matches he's one (unless your Goldberg), but the quality of wrestling in his matches. Cena used to show talent in the ring but, his gimmick limits his move set and sets him off as generic (I hate generic things) and lackluster character.

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cena is not lackluster cena has one of the most entertaining characters in wrestling right now cena is not a bad wrestler if anyone seen him wrestle as "big tim" and prototype in upw(side note were he and samoa joe trained together, bet most of you guys didn't know that) and ovw then you would know this guy is more talented then he lets on,just go back to his first match with kurt angle they put on one hell of a match and it wasn't just kurt it was cena too,everyone wants to say cena does the same moves every match in that case you should hate every wrestler they all have a routine to end there matches chris beniot flying headbutt then the crossface hbk the hop up then the elbow drop then the tune-up/sweet chin combo i could go on with almost every wrestler,face wrestlers sell moves until they get energy from the crowd then go in to "comeback" mode,heel wrestlers dominate until the "comeback" and if they are the one that's going to win they cheat,someone interfears on there behalf,or they use the infamous ref bump,this is just the way wrestling is you can't hate john cena for using a routine but love and respect hbk when he does the same things as cena,but i do think the wwe is downplaying his true wrestling talent telling him to do things in the ring that they think will get him over with the crowd instead of showing the same talent he showed in his first match,just in case you couldn't tell i am a cena fan no i'm not 11-15, i'm not a girl/homo,i have been watching wrestling sense i was 3, i just think he is a soild wrestler/entertainer he's not the best but he's not the worst either,and for the record the mixed reactions to cena is a complement to his character there will always be haters and who eles can say they had the biggest cheers and boos on the same night.
 
showtyme27 said:
cena is not lackluster cena has one of the most entertaining characters in wrestling right now cena is not a bad wrestler if anyone seen him wrestle as "big tim" and prototype in upw(side note were he and samoa joe trained together, bet most of you guys didn't know that) and ovw then you would know this guy is more talented then he lets on,just go back to his first match with kurt angle they put on one hell of a match and it wasn't just kurt it was cena too,everyone wants to say cena does the same moves every match in that case you should hate every wrestler they all have a routine to end there matches chris beniot flying headbutt then the crossface hbk the hop up then the elbow drop then the tune-up/sweet chin combo i could go on with almost every wrestler,face wrestlers sell moves until they get energy from the crowd then go in to "comeback" mode,heel wrestlers dominate until the "comeback" and if they are the one that's going to win they cheat,someone interfears on there behalf,or they use the infamous ref bump,this is just the way wrestling is you can't hate john cena for using a routine but love and respect hbk when he does the same things as cena,but i do think the wwe is downplaying his true wrestling talent telling him to do things in the ring that they think will get him over with the crowd instead of showing the same talent he showed in his first match,just in case you couldn't tell i am a cena fan no i'm not 11-15, i'm not a girl/homo,i have been watching wrestling sense i was 3, i just think he is a soild wrestler/entertainer he's not the best but he's not the worst either,and for the record the mixed reactions to cena is a complement to his character there will always be haters and who eles can say they had the biggest cheers and boos on the same night.


the different between Cena and HBK is HBK doesnt do the same move all the time Cena does the FU 3 min into all his macths he never put any effort into his macths
 
Benoit and HBK do use those moves alot but Cena doesnt carry through the match at all. His opponent beats his ass for 10 minutes then he hits the F-U.
HBK puts on an exciting match with his opponents with more back and forth action. Plus HBK has a much larger move set and better looking moves then Cena:

1.) Protoplex (Spinning Out Powerbomb)
2.) Shoulder Block
3.) Five Knuckle Shuffle
4.) F-U/STF-U

Terrible moves that can't hurt all that bad. But, who ever he's facing usually loses to these 4 moves.
 
Jericho616 said:
Benoit and HBK do use those moves alot but Cena doesnt carry through the match at all. His opponent beats his ass for 10 minutes then he hits the F-U.
HBK puts on an exciting match with his opponents with more back and forth action. Plus HBK has a much larger move set and better looking moves then Cena:

1.) Protoplex (Spinning Out Powerbomb)
2.) Shoulder Block
3.) Five Knuckle Shuffle
4.) F-U/STF-U

Terrible moves that can't hurt all that bad. But, who ever he's facing usually loses to these 4 moves.
you didn't get my point every wrestler has a routine and to say cena is a horrible wrestler when he is doing the same as everone eles is crazy,i like the protoplex i think it should be his finisher i also like the f-u soild finisher to me, now he does have a bigger moveset then those four moves but yes he ends his matches doing each of the moves but that his routine,the reason he get his a** beat then comeback to win is because the wwe wants to bill him as the underdog babyface champion that's not his fault it's just the role he has to play.
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
the different between Cena and HBK is HBK doesnt do the same move all the time Cena does the FU 3 min into all his macths he never put any effort into his macths
don't know what hbk matches you have been watching he does the hop-up then the elbow drop then the tune-up the band/sweet chin music that how almost all his matches end it's his routine the only time his routine changes is when he loses or if the wwe is tring to get someone over then he will do the sweet chin out of nowhere(like the ones on shelton benjamin in there great matches)don't get me wrong i like hbk also but you guys need to see things as they are not how you want them to be every wrestler has a routine.
 
showtyme27 said:
don't know what hbk matches you have been watching he does the hop-up then the elbow drop then the tune-up the band/sweet chin music that how almost all his matches end it's his routine the only time his routine changes is when he loses or if the wwe is tring to get someone over then he will do the sweet chin out of nowhere(like the ones on shelton benjamin in there great matches)don't get me wrong i like hbk also but you guys need to see things as they are not how you want them to be every wrestler has a routine.

edge doesnt have one
HBK doesnt have one
The rock didnt have one

Just John cena does hell sometime the only move he does is his finsher just look at last year summerslam he did the FU 7 time nothing eles
 
showtyme27 said:
don't know what hbk matches you have been watching he does the hop-up then the elbow drop then the tune-up the band/sweet chin music that how almost all his matches end it's his routine the only time his routine changes is when he loses or if the wwe is tring to get someone over then he will do the sweet chin out of nowhere(like the ones on shelton benjamin in there great matches)don't get me wrong i like hbk also but you guys need to see things as they are not how you want them to be every wrestler has a routine.

That's true- every wrestler does have their own routine. But, how can I like a guy when a shoulder block is one of the main moves in his routine and a rip off of the People's Elbow?? And besides if you're going to compare HBK and Cena than you should look at HBK's old matches where he did an even wider varieties of moves. I don't find Cena entertaining at all- but that is a personal opinion.

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