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Personally i already knew he and Joe were in the same class Christopher Daniels was in that class too.

Cena's first match? honestly that was horrible Angle managed to carry him through that match he did what? 4 moves different?

Throwback
Stinger splash
Crucifix pin
and a couple punches.

Cena can put on more entertaining matches he has creative freedom over his matches hes just not willing to put the effort in.
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
edge doesnt have one
HBK doesnt have one
The rock didnt have one


Edge is a heel who controls the majority of the match, so he's booked to wrestle like a heel. When he was a face, he had a routine. The Rock DID have a comeback routine as a face and so did HBK.
 
The Rock DID have a comeback routine

The main thing in there is "comeback routine"... Every face has a come back routine.. But the thing about Cena's routine, is its his only routine.. I mean, I know the guy knows more then 5 moves, I have seen him do more.. But for the last year, he has been doing the same thing over and over again.. Whether he's coming back, or if he's just "wrestling" he does the same thing over and over again.
 
I can honestly say that HHH is one of the only wrestlers that I have seen that doesnt have a set of moves he uses when he is going to end a match. The pedigree comes out of nowhere, it doesnt matter if he is a face or a heel.

But as far as Cena goes, yes he has a moveset that he follows a little bit too much. I can understand that the WWE booking team is responsible but he as the entertainer should voice up a little and say "Hey Vince can we add a little something different in here. Lets not insult the fans" I mean we all know that he isnt going to lose the title anytime soon, so could he at least be entertaining while he is holding it? Maybe go back to rapping on the way to ring like the old times. I loved when he used to do that.
 
to edge-nubmber1fan: are you kidding yourself they all have/had a routine i've explained hbk 2 times all ready,the rock had one,and edge has one, every wrestling match follow a routine ,it's easy to see if you just watch the matches. to eternal dragon: i said before i love hbk he is one of my favorites ever and it's good to see him back in the ring ,your right his classic matches had alot more action and more moves but even back then he had a routine,you just don't like cena and that's okay but hbk and cena have kind of the same routine that's why i picked hbk to talk about,am i saying that cena is as good a wrestler/entertainer as hbk no well at least on the wrestling side. to staticxer: christopher daniels was not in there wrestling school getting trained he has been around way longer then joe and cena,but i do agree with you saying cena can put on better matches if given the chance by wwe.to paulwall: i agree with you,cena's matches are alike, but to me almost every wrestler wrestles the same way every match except when in a gimmick match or a highly hyped match or a match to get someone over then the wwe lets them really go at it to make the match seem more memorial.to wordisborn21: i disagree about hhh he has a heel routine and a face routine spinebuster,knee to the face pedigree, it never comes out of nowhere it's not that kind os move hhh has been around a long time and has a routine just like every other wrestler but i agree about cena i liked the rap gimmick it got him over and he is a way better heel then face so i think he should turn heel so they could have him dominate people cena is stronger than 3/4 of the wwe roster they should use that to there advantage make him a monster heel like brock lesner was or how umaga is now,and he should talk up he knows what half the fans think about he should be man enough to prove them wrong.
 
showtyme27 said:
to edge-nubmber1fan: are you kidding yourself they all have/had a routine i've explained hbk 2 times all ready,the rock had one,and edge has one, every wrestler match follow a routine ,it's easy to see if you just watch the matches. to eternal dragon: i said before i love hbk he is one of my favorites ever and it's good to see him back in the ring ,your right his classic matches had alot more action and more moves but even back then he had a routine,you just don't like cena and that's okay but hbk and cena have kind of the same routine that's why i picked hbk to talk about,am i saying that cena is as good a wrestler/entertainer as hbk no well at least on the wrestling side. to staticxer: christopher daniels was not in there wrestling school getting trained he has been around way longer then joe and cena,but i do agree with you saying cena can put on better matches if given the chance by wwe.to paulwall: i agree with you,cena's matches are alike, but to me almost every wrestler wrestles the same way every match except when in a gimmick match or a highly hyped match or a match to get someone over then the wwe lets them really go at it to make the match seem more memorial.to wordisborn21: i disagree about hhh he has a heel routine and a face routine spinebuster,knee to the face pedigree, it never comes out of nowhere it's not that kind os move hhh has been around a long time and has a routine just like every other wrestler but i agree about cena i liked the rap gimmick it got him over and he is a way better heel then face so i think he should turn heel so they could have him dominate people cena is stronger than 3/4 of the wwe roster they should use that to there advantage make him a monster heel like brock lesner was or how umaga is now,and he should talk up he knows what half the fans think about he should be man enough to prove them wrong.


Are you on crack Cena is the most weakest wrestler ever Zach gowen is stronger then Cena and yeah wrestler have routine but they don't do it 2 mins into the macth Wacth John cena vs Y2J at summerslam 2 mins into the macth and Cena hit the FU. mean at least When other wrestler do their finsher in at least 2 hours into the macth.

none of the wrestler eacpe for Cena wrestles the same way every match only cena does it and why because he afard of getting Hurt again littlle baby. Cena just going to keep pissing wrestler off until they all go to TNA.
 
I disagree. I think HBK and Cena are much different in the ring. HBK started out as a high-flying rocker and Cena's known mostly for his mat moves. I disagree that every wrestler "wrestles" in the same exact way. Usually they have set routine and they do a few different moves out of that routine every week. And if you look at HBK's routine, Edge, HHH, heck even CM Punk- all or most of their moves are good and nicely executed, where Cena has things like the shoulder block, and badly applied suplexes. Sure, he's a decent mid-card wrestler, but I don't think Cena should have gotten the title three times, while other great wrestlers like Malenko never did.


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I’m going to repeat what I have stated on numerous occasions in these Threads. People constantly go on about how little a move set Cena has, and besides the fact that there are quite a few people that have gotten away with using less moves for their entire careers and been just as if not more successful that Cena, he doesn’t decide how he is going to Wrestle. He is TOLD how he is going to wrestle. Cena CAN pull off more than five moves, so its not his fault. Essentially most of you are shooting the messenger by blaming Cena, he is doing what he is told to do, and what he is doing is a good job for someone with such a huge burden of being the next Rock or Austin hanging over him.
 
It's not like wrestlers have no say in the moves they're going to be doing- especially if you're someone as big as Cena.. And Cena as the next Austin or Rock- hell no. Sorry, he just does not compare.

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Eternal Dragon said:
It's not like wrestlers have no say in the moves they're going to be doing- especially if you're someone as big as Cena.. And Cena as the next Austin or Rock- hell no. Sorry, he just does not compare.

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But that is what the WWE Expect of him, that was the point I made.

So if Cena does know more than five moves which pretty much everyone in this Thread agrees (if you dont, go find some OVW tapes) then why exactly isnt he doing them? The thing is the WWE are the sort of company that think a smaller move-set sells better. Think about how mad people went when The Rock did the People Elbow, or Austin doing the Stunner. They think that people need to do fewer moves that have more of an impact on the crowd. Look at most Wrestlers on the roster these days, and they do a lot less moves compared to the late 90’s, its not a Wrestling based company, nor has it ever been. If you want to see quality wrestling you know what channel to chose from, its Entertainment, and to the WWE writers, Cena is Entertainment.
 
Despite what people say I disagree that WWE is just entertainiment. If you look at it like that than you're disregarding all of the talent on the roster, who I think do put on good matches. I'm not one of those people that just randomly started hating Cena. I just realized I only like him because of how he looked, and that's part of the reasons why he has so many fans- not because of his wrestling talent. I think it's justified if a fan can get mad at that.


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Eternal Dragon said:
Despite what people say I disagree that WWE is just entertainiment. If you look at it like that than you're disregarding all of the talent on the roster, who I think do put on good matches. I'm not one of those people that just randomly started hating Cena. I just realized I only like him because of how he looked, and that's part of the reasons why he has so many fans- not because of his wrestling talent. I think it's justified if a fan can get mad at that.


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I agree it has the word WRESTLING in it for a reason i swear some people need to learn wrestling again mean WWWF is better then WWE right now
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
I agree it has the word WRESTLING in it for a reason i swear some people need to learn wrestling again mean WWWF is better then WWE right now
It's true. Wrestling is just wrestling. I mean.... it's always been the same, predetermined matches with athletes to perform to ENTERTAIN the people. The purpouse has not changed and is no diffrent whether it's WWE, TNA or anywhere else. IMO, the WWE is more advanced of what professional wrestling literally is, which you have to do whatever possible to sell and that's what the WWE has done and that's why they have such a huge legacy and suceeded, by far, much more greater than any form of professional wrestling promotion ever in the history of this industry. If people say any diffrent, they have to be a newer "wrestling fan" or just pure out ignorant.
 
Eternal Dragon said:
Despite what people say I disagree that WWE is just entertainiment. If you look at it like that than you're disregarding all of the talent on the roster, who I think do put on good matches. I'm not one of those people that just randomly started hating Cena. I just realized I only like him because of how he looked, and that's part of the reasons why he has so many fans- not because of his wrestling talent. I think it's justified if a fan can get mad at that.


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Definitely. WWE tries to spark up nostalgia about legit professional wrestling with stuff like "this week in wrestling history." J.R. has made many references to legendary matches over the years and treats them with the utmost respect in his plugs of them. I haven't liked Cena since he first appeared on Smackdown and after watching some of his indy matches, I still have the same opinion. For a guy with his genetics, you'd think he'd have more agility and athletic precision, but he doesn't. When a guy like Umaga who is pretty portly, can move with more of a high-impact, speedy, and agile nature than Cena, then something is wrong with John-boy on a fundamental level. I don't mind that he's a one or two-trick pony. It's just that I think his tricks suck. The fact that he only has a few of them only compounds matters.
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
Are you on crack Cena is the most weakest wrestler ever Zach gowen is stronger then Cena and yeah wrestler have routine but they don't do it 2 mins into the macth Wacth John cena vs Y2J at summerslam 2 mins into the macth and Cena hit the FU. mean at least When other wrestler do their finsher in at least 2 hours into the macth.

none of the wrestler eacpe for Cena wrestles the same way every match only cena does it and why because he afard of getting Hurt again littlle baby. Cena just going to keep pissing wrestler off until they all go to TNA.
to egde-number1 fan: no,you seem to be the one on crack zack gowen stronger then cena that's laughible,cena is one of the stronest guys in wwe right now maybe ever, if you just don't like cena then hate him all you want but don't just say random sh*t,i can see you don't know much about wrestling at all.to eternal dragon: i'm not tring to say that cena and hbk wrestle the same in the ring i'm tring to say that they have kind of the same routine but they are different people and have different moves so while they are different in the ring there routines are alike, i don't think they wrestle the exact same way every match but they follow the same routine and it makes there matches alike,all the wrestlers you named are great but they don't go to far out of there routine no wrestler does,i think cena does his moves well it's alright with me i think most people are just trird of cena getting overpushed and now he's getting the same reaction the rock got when they overpushed him in the early days of his career the best thing for wwe to do is turn him heel that's what everyone wants to see even me.
 
showtyme27 said:
to egde-number1 fan: no,you seem to be the one on crack zack gowen stronger then cena that's laughible,cena is one of the stronest guys in wwe right now maybe ever, if you just don't like cena then hate him all you want but don't just say random sh*t,i can see you don't know much about wrestling at all.to eternal dragon: i'm not tring to say that cena and hbk wrestle the same in the ring i'm tring to say that they have kind of the same routine but they are different people and have different moves so while they are different in the ring there routines are alike, i don't think they wrestle the exact same way every match but they follow the same routine and it makes there matches alike,all the wrestlers you named are great but they don't go to far out of there routine no wrestler does,i think cena does his moves well it's alright with me i think most people are just trird of cena getting overpushed and now he's getting the same reaction the rock got when they overpushed him in the early days of his career the best thing for wwe to do is turn him heel that's what everyone wants to see even me.


well I guess i know more about wrestling then you if you Think John cena strong mean come the dude got his ass kick by a one leg wrestler who he could't even get over his head if John cena so stong howm come he can't Fu the big show or FU edge how come wrestler have to left themself up so Cena can Fu them.
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
well I guess i know more about wrestling then you if you Think John cena strong mean come the dude got his ass kick by a one leg wrestler who he could't even get over his head if John cena so stong howm come he can't Fu the big show or FU edge how come wrestler have to left themself up so Cena can Fu them.
do you watch wrestling? i don't think you do,cena has f-u'd the big show and f-u'd edge more times then i can count,do you know who john cena is?,he has never wrestled zack gowen,(who is a very talented wrestler by the way)the only wrestlers gowen beat in the wwe are the big show(with help from other wrestlers) and matt hardy(yes he beat him fair), i think even the people that hate cena will agree that he is one of the stronest wrestlers on the wwe roster,so again i would like you to watch wrestling before you type anything because you sound dumb. p.s. rene dupree has never wrestled in roh and i don't think he is a better wrestler than r.v.d,you really don't know anything about wrestling do you?
 
showtyme27 said:
do you watch wrestling? i don't think you do,cena has f-u'd the big show and f-u'd edge more times then i can count,do you know who john cena is?,he has never wrestled zack gowen,(who is a very talented wrestler by the way)the only wrestlers gowen beat in the wwe are the big show(with help from other wrestlers) and matt hardy(yes he beat him fair), i think even the people that hate cena will agree that he is one of the stronest wrestlers on the wwe roster,so again i would like you to watch wrestling before you type anything because you sound dumb. p.s. rene dupree has never wrestled in roh and i don't think he is a better wrestler than r.v.d,you really don't know anything about wrestling do you?


Yeah i do wacth wrestler i wacth John cena get his ass kick by Zach gowen i saw Cena hit big show with the steel chin to win his first Us Title everyone know Cena is weak as can be Hell just wacth The 2003 RR

P.s Rene Dupree has wrestler in ROH because he along with CHirstoper dainls who one of the founding fathers

do you even know anything about wrestling or are you mark if you think John cena strong that laugable
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
Yeah i do wacth wrestler i wacth John cena get his ass kick by Zach gowen i saw Cena hit big show with the steel chin to win his first Us Title everyone know Cena is weak as can be Hell just wacth The 2003 RR

P.s Rene Dupree has wrestler in ROH because he along with CHirstoper dainls who one of the founding fathers

do you even know anything about wrestling or are you mark if you think John cena strong that laugable
you have to be one of the dumbest fu*king people i have come across in this forum,again gowen and cena NEVER wrestled,cena won his first us title when he f-u'd the big show at wrestlemaina,and rene dupree wasn't a founding father of roh he was in ovw before getting the call up to wwe how old do you think he is? he has NEVER wrestled in roh,you don't know anything about wrestling i know that for sure now, it seems to me you are the mark, and you posts are laughable.
 
showtyme27 said:
you have to be one of the dumbest fu*king people i have come across in this forum,again gowen and cena NEVER wrestled,cena won his first us title when he f-u'd the big show at wrestlemaina,and rene dupree wasn't a founding father of roh he was in ovw before getting the call up to wwe how old do you think he is? he has NEVER wrestled in roh,you don't know anything about wrestling i know that for sure now, it seems to me you are the mark, and you posts are laughable.


dude you need to clam down and your wrong about two thing Gowen and Cena did wrestler each other and Cena didnt beat Big show with the FU he beat him with a steel chin
 
Edge-number1 fan said:
dude you need to clam down and your wrong about two thing Gowen and Cena did wrestler each other and Cena didnt beat Big show with the FU he beat him with a steel chin
okay your right i'm sorry,but he never wrestled zack gowen and he beat big show with the f-u at wrestlemaina 20 watch the tape if you don't believe me then more recently he f-u'd the big show on raw go to the ask a qustion thread or something everbody that watches wrestling has seen cena f-u the big show.i know what you can do go to www.wwe.com/superstars/johncena/profile and read cena profile.
 
well I guess i know more about wrestling then you if you Think John cena strong mean

Cena is one of the stronger people in the WWE.. Your gonna sit here and say he isnt strong when he FU'd Big Show, Vis.. And also throws Edge over his head like nothing? Go try throwing a 140 lb person over your head like he does, and see how hard it is..
 
I'm not going to doubt the strength of John Cena- he did used to be a professional bodybuilder, however I'm not going judge him based on that. Sure, it's good, exciting spot when he FUs a big man, but like Jim Ross said it's not all about "Holy S***" moments. It's also the match itself and the moves that you put in it. I don't like Cena's routine, I don't like how he executes them either.

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Eternal Dragon said:
I'm not going to doubt the strength of John Cena- he did used to be a professional bodybuilder, however I'm not going judge him based on that. Sure, it's good, exciting spot when he FUs a big man, but like Jim Ross said it's not all about "Holy S***" moments. It's also the match itself and the moves that you put in it. I don't like Cena's routine, I don't like how he executes them either.

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I totally agree. Cena is strong but strength alone doesn't make a great wrestler, Mark Henry strong can't wrestle. Anyone else remember Bill Kazmire?? VERY strong, worse than Mark Henry
 
showtyme27 said:
you have to be one of the dumbest fu*king people i have come across in this forum,again gowen and cena NEVER wrestled,cena won his first us title when he f-u'd the big show at wrestlemaina,and rene dupree wasn't a founding father of roh he was in ovw before getting the call up to wwe how old do you think he is? he has NEVER wrestled in roh,you don't know anything about wrestling i know that for sure now, it seems to me you are the mark, and you posts are laughable.


You need to chill out before you get in trouble. This is not a warning, but an attempt to calm you down before you go to far.
 

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