Jeff Hardy: Legitimate Contender or One Time Wonder

[Tomko]

I'm still neutral with Hardy. I know this past RAW was amazing with the Swanton that Jeff had, and that's great and all, but I think he still needs to work on his mic skills. Granted, this is his first time in ever that he gets to use the stick, but I don't think he's ready for the title quite yet. He's a spot monkey that can occasionally put up good matches. So I voted neutral, but if he improves on the mic he'll eventually be champ.

 

[rKo0019]

I think this is a 50/50 type thing. Either he will win the title or he won't. It would be interesting to put the title on him, to see how he can run with it. Injecting some new blood in the title picture is always refreshing, especially with the glass ceiling the HBKs and HHHs and Ortons of the world have created on Raw. The fact of the matter is he is way over with the fans, which translates into $$$$$ for WWE eventually.
On the otherhand, he is a risk. First of all, he is a stuntman that earns a wrestler's paycheck. He cannot get over without doing a daredevil, death-defying move each week. Due to this all-out, reckless abandon style, eventually he will get injured, or injure someone else. I wouldn't be surprised to see Orton retain.
It could go either way. If he gets the title, he may do well...or he could get Orton-ized, 2004-style. If he doesn't win at the Rumble, this could be a mini-push, just to get the audience to believe he is a main-eventer. Very intriguing. IMO, Orton will retain. They will want him in the main event with Batista at Wrestlemania (I could be wrong, though....)...

 

[Freedom 35]

meh

thats the word Id use to describe Jeff Hardy, his matches IMO are decent but hes only really had a few good non gimmick matches spread out here and there but mostly he relys on the spot monkey pop factor to make his mostly boring matches exciting.

I disagree with people saying hes decent on the mic when in fact hes SHIT heres a Jeff Hardy promo right here

"Im gonna take you out"

thats all and while its shit theres one plus to this though its the fact that he can only get better.

Jeff Hardy IMO is nothing better than an upper midcarder with an occasional main event feud in him basically the role hes in now. I just dont think he has enough ability at the necessities of wrestling to be a legit main eventer

 

[RVDgurl]

I'm a fan of Jeff Hardy so I would like to think he is being taken serious by the creative team. With that being said, I realize that he is not the best wrestler in the world, but in my opinion most of the guys on the RAW roster are not overly skilled. Jeff Hardy is a fresh face in the main event scene and I think that's a good thing. I also think it's a logic progression in storyline if Triple H is really slated to win the title at Mania. His recent friendship with Hardy would give the build up fued an interesting twist. With that in mind, giving Hardy a short title run would not be such a bad idea.

 

[Armagedon]

I think he is a legitimate champion. Despite what people have said, he has shown much greater improvement then his last run. I mean, you look at his matches with John Morrison. They were much more well balanced in spot theatrics and ground wrestling. Not too mention as it has already been said, he is way over. Of course, the royal rumble is the real test for him. Yes, people will be purchasing it for the rumble match, but it is also his chance to show the WWE that he can perform at a PPV main event level.

 

[mattitude2007]

Lolz. Batista has the promo skills of a cardboard box.

Batista has far better mic skills than Lashley and Jeff at the very least.

Batista while he does not say whitty things, is a good actor, he gets across emotions very well.

Lashley has a voice that doesn't match his frame, and his delivery flat out sucks.

Jeff is monotone and sounds the same whether he is angry, happy, sad etc...he is a bad actor.

Batista is competant on the mic.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Jeff Hardy, I really am. And I do believe he's paid his dues in the business and as such deserves his share of the limelight and his shot at a top tier belt.

Having said this, he'll be a one time wonder. He'll get this one title shot at the Rumble, he'll lose, and then he'll be back to the mid-card again, despite the pops he's getting lately.

The reason is two-fold. First, even in the WWE of today, despite all of the steroid scandals and the Wellness Policy and everything else, I don't believe the WWE is ready to put one of the two major belts on a guy who looks to be about 150 lbs. Fair or not, right or wrong, this will be the mentality of the WWE, it always has been. Big guys get rewarded whether they deserve it or not (Batista), and smaller guys are only rewarded if they're exceptional. And Hardy is hardly exceptional. Good, yes, but not exceptional.

Secondly, the WWE champion has to have mic skills for the most part. Cena, whether you like him or not, is pretty good on the mic. HHH, HBK, Hart, Hogan, SCSA, the Rock, the list goes on and on. If you are going to hold a major belt, you have to be able to hold your own on the mic. And Hardy can't. At least not yet. That was obvious this week.

So give Hardy his moment in the sun, he's earned that. But forget a major title around his waist, or an extended opportunity at it, it's just not happening. Intercontinental or something like this yes, but not the WWE or WHC belts.

 

[The Big Red Extreme]

As much as people might get upset for me mentioning this guy, Benoit couldn't hold his own on the mic either. Then again, he was a good wrestler. However, Jeff hasn't gotten a lot better at ground wrestling. He's not doing crazy shit the entire match bc he knows how dangerous that can be. And although he's not good at promos, he is good in a different way. Look at the whisper in the wind from the top of the cage to umaga. Look at his Swanton on orton this week. I think that he delivers a different kind of promo, one without words. And although i don't think he should have a long reign with the title(maybe just until no way out) i think he should win at the rumble. knowing the wwe though, he'll win by dq. What the f are they doing with Orton lately!?

 

[StrangerX9]

I think Jeff Hardy has been around awhile now, and alota people compare him to Shawn Micheals. Maybe they think if they push him hard enough he will be the next Shawn Micheals. Personally I think he CAN NOT hold a mic to save his ass. His promo skills are weak if best, but in ring ability is up there.

Do I think he should be at High card status? Yes

Do I think he'll be champion or be champion for a long time if ever? No

 

[hardyisgod]

For all you who think that jeff hardy wouldnt make a valid champ, need to take a close look at the way the WWE is and has been. Some of the greatest WWE champions of our time have been exactly like Jeff Hardy. Chris Jericho for example. I bet all you would be saying the same about him but he went on to win two world titles in a row of the two greats in the game ever. Also whats so good about Randy Ortons Mic skills, or Bobby Lashley or Batista. but i bet you would love to see them winning titles. Jeff Hardy gives the crowed what they want and goes out of his way to create great wrestling moments. Already in the last two weeks Jeff had produce Wrestlemania type moments. At the end of this year when we look back at the great moments in wrestling 2008, Jeff Hardys performance over the last two weeks of raw will be the main highlights. What is wrong with Jeffs Mic skills anyway. You cant always have John Cena or a Rock behind the mic and at the moment MVP is probably the only champion in the WWE right now with any mic skills with calliber of a rock or cena, and that includes all three world champions.

 

[Tomko]

Some of the greatest WWE champions of our time have been exactly like Jeff Hardy. Chris Jericho for example.

Jericho actually was really good on the mic. Hardy's not. Also, most of Hardy's matches are pretty boring except for the high spots. The Swanton seems like the only way he's going to win a match, while Jericho had a few finishers he could end it with.

Also whats so good about Randy Ortons Mic skills, or Bobby Lashley or Batista. but i bet you would love to see them winning titles.

Bobby Lashley's and Batista's mic skills are worse then a gym sock. Lashley sounds like a little girl and Batista is just too boring.

You cant always have John Cena or a Rock behind the mic and at the moment MVP is probably the only champion in the WWE right now with any mic skills with calliber of a rock or cena, and that includes all three world champions.

So you're telling me that Edge isn't good on the mic? Have you been watching Smackdown? Or WWE in general for that matter. Edge is one of the best on the mic and you know it. And Cena has good mic skills? He always sounds like he's going to have a heart attack when he talks.

 

[Sharpshooter]

To say that Jeff Hardy is not ready for the title picture is not seeing the same wrestling as others do. Hardy has what it takes to become a main eventer, but must be built up the right way in order for people to take him seriously. I think his feud with Orton right now proves that in fact he does have the potential to rumble with the big shots. You can say that Hunter does see that potential when he fought him at Armageddon (although some people would say it was a fluke win, but I didn't think so). His mic skills are sub par, but as the time goes on, he will improve on it. People say that his high-risk maneuvers are too risky or too dynamic to say that he is a wrestler, but no one said that about John Cena, and Hardy has been in this business more longer than Cena. Its his style that makes him unique, and that's why people mark for him. I'm not saying that he will win at the Royal Rumble, but I'm saying that he will give Orton a big surprise to see he can hold his own, and prove that he is a legitimate contender.

-Sharp

 

[nomonksinmyband]

I was never a big fan of either Hardy's and always thought that if one was to be the star it was Matt but over the last few months Jeff has made me believe that he would be a beliveable Main-eventer and World Champion. Whether it happens or not is a different story but the fact that he has managed to change even one person's opinion means that he is doing what he is meant to be doing.

 

[Lashley07]

Legitimate

You know why? Because his matches are entertaining. He gets the crowd involved and keeps them involved. He has the talent to go far this year, but I don't think he will.

I think it will happen at WrestleMania 25, North Carolina (it would be a nice setting). Why?

Because he and Matt will win at WrestleMania 25. Matt = WHC. Jeff = WWE Title. That's a nice way to celebrate 25 years of WrestleMania. 2 brothers who have been through everything together, finally win. And win big.

Hardy still needs a year to stay with the big boys. He needs to defeat a few more main eventers to prove his worth. Prehaps he should re-do his feud with Shawn Micheals. Now Jeff has improved and HBK is just as good as he ever was, I think this would be an amazing fued. HBK is the best at putting over talent, and this will be proven during 2008.

This year will give him time to improve on the mic, develop his character on a personal level, and grow his hair. (I hate his shorter hair, lol)

Furthermore, it will give him time to train harder and learn new moves. Moves he can keep un-used until WrestleMania 25. Then you will all see why Jeff Hardy is legitimate.

 

[jackie]

Look it is obvious their going to give Jeff his shot and he deserves it all if he win s he will rein for a while than someone else will have their shot and it just goes on but yes he will beat randy why because randy is a piece of garbage and is a disgrace to WWE now it is in plain sight why randy is vounarable because he got Jeff mad and he was dead from the start and he is better than randy.

 

[justinsayne]

Look it is obvious their going to give Jeff his shot and he deserves it all if he win s he will rein for a while than someone else will have their shot and it just goes on but yes he will beat randy why because randy is a piece of garbage and is a disgrace to WWE now it is in plain sight why randy is vounarable because he got Jeff mad and he was dead from the start and he is better than randy.

You do know it's not real right, and didn't they just do the same build up going into the PPV title matches against HBK and Y2J...why the hell would they change it up now, this close to WM, Jeff is not gonna win, it would be stupid, and devalue the title, I like Jeff, but he doesn't deserve the WWE title, he hasn't proven he can carry the company, especially at this time of the year, we are heading into the Rumble, right now is not a good time to take a gamble on someone like Hardy, it is a bad, very bad, time to give him the belt, I mean look at it like this, going into WM, the Champion has to be able to do a lot of promotional press for WM, Jeff is known as a quiet guy, and not very charismatic, can you imagine him on talk shows, he would bomb, he's not good at that sort of thing, WWE is gonna want a guy that can talk and Jeff isn't that guy, Jeff Hardy has about as much of a chance at beating Orton for the title at the Rumble as Hornswoggle does at winning the Royal Rumble match and going to the ME of WM...It's not gonna happen accept it already

 

[Grubbs0621]

You do know it's not real right, and didn't they just do the same build up going into the PPV title matches against HBK and Y2J...why the hell would they change it up now, this close to WM, Jeff is not gonna win, it would be stupid, and devalue the title, I like Jeff, but he doesn't deserve the WWE title, he hasn't proven he can carry the company, especially at this time of the year, we are heading into the Rumble, right now is not a good time to take a gamble on someone like Hardy, it is a bad, very bad, time to give him the belt, I mean look at it like this, going into WM, the Champion has to be able to do a lot of promotional press for WM, Jeff is known as a quiet guy, and not very charismatic, can you imagine him on talk shows, he would bomb, he's not good at that sort of thing, WWE is gonna want a guy that can talk and Jeff isn't that guy, Jeff Hardy has about as much of a chance at beating Orton for the title at the Rumble as Hornswoggle does at winning the Royal Rumble match and going to the ME of WM...It's not gonna happen accept it already

I dunno. WWE is going this new "lets try to surprise the fans route" lately. But I think they will wait, have him win MITB and get the title sometime around SS 08.

I think it would be best for HHH to win the Rumble, and cost Hardy the title at the Rumble (so Jeff's push can keep on going) with HHH using the excuse he wants a shot at Orton and it should be him in there instead of Hardy if not for a fluke rollup. This would make a huge heel turn for HHH (which we all know he wants to do) since he is screwing the company's most over star.

That would allow HHH to go hell, get Hardy even more over, get him more time to work the main event scene, and let Orton keep his title until WM.

 

[psykohurricane]

personally, i think that the WWE is sitting on a gold mine right now with Jeff HArdy. Everybody wants him to be Champion and the push that he's getting right now just give him look like he belong has a main eventer. The problem is that The WWE is known for not necessarily doing what's best for buisness and am pretty sure that after the royal rumble. Jeff HArdy will go either go back to the mid-card level or might be able to squeeze in a couple of more week on top as the top challenger.

 

[steven87gill]

I dunno. WWE is going this new "lets try to surprise the fans route" lately. But I think they will wait, have him win MITB and get the title sometime around SS 08.

I think it would be best for HHH to win the Rumble, and cost Hardy the title at the Rumble (so Jeff's push can keep on going) with HHH using the excuse he wants a shot at Orton and it should be him in there instead of Hardy if not for a fluke rollup. This would make a huge heel turn for HHH (which we all know he wants to do) since he is screwing the company's most over star.

That would allow HHH to go hell, get Hardy even more over, get him more time to work the main event scene, and let Orton keep his title until WM.

I don't see triple h turning heel any time soon, and we don't know for sure if he does want too, not all IWC reports are accurate. Remember, he's also said before he's pretty much done with the whole heel thing for a while, and to be honest the prospect of a triple h heel turn bores me to tears, it's been done to death before, and he's been a heel most of his career so it's still fresh to see him as a babyface. As for hardy, i think he's a legitimate contender and i could see them giving him a short mick foley style world title run, although i wouldn't bet on it, unfortunatley.

 

[cuckfena]

The trouble with Jeff is he is seen by his detractors as just a spot monkey and, instead of trying to disprove that, on the last 2 weeks raw is has just gone and proved them right with that whisper in the wind off the cage and the suicide attempt last Monday. In my opinion he has potential. His mic skills are not as bad as most people think but still have a long way to go. Do I think he should get a shot at the title? No. Do I think he might deserve one in the future? Yes but he has a fair way to go

 

[I_TheJman_I]

Jeff hardy has been in the business for years now and deserves to be in the title match. As far as winning I don't think he is taken seriously by the creative team or vince as a realistic contender for the WWE title

 

[mjdod]

Hey guys, I have been browsing this forums for awhile now and would like to step in with my input on Jeff Hardy. Now, I have been a supporter of Jeff back then with the Hardy Boys and Lita and I was attracted because of his style. To me he was unique, he was always taking risks, jumping off ladders and putting his body on the line. I always wondered why he always got his arse handed to him by other wrestlers because naturally when you "support" a wrestler you want to see him win. I was younger then and didnt understand that wrestling was scripted with "pushes" etc..

Fast-forward a decade and now Jeff Hardy is on the verge of main-eventing. Now, despite being a staunch supporter of Jeff, I sincerely think the Intercontinental title is his level. Why? When he won the Intercontinental from Umaga, I seem to recall him causing to Umaga to fall in a way that caused the ring rope to strike between his legs (sorry for my bad description). And the match against Triple H? I felt that it was a fluke pin, it was more of HHH being surprised and even then it looked weak to me, personally.

I feel that Jeff brings something else to a match, he hits big "spots" (I am not very familiar with wrestling terms) which can probably be classified as the climax of the match. I can also say that I am entertained by Jeff Hardys matches, I watch RAW now purely because of his matches. I enjoy his entrances and his trademark moves such as the Whisper in the Wind, Swanton and Poetry in Motion.

Anyway, Jeff is getting a big push now and I think it wont last. I hope I am wrong though. I dont think he is ready for the main event even though he has improved and added more moves to his repetoire. I agree that most of his matches usually involve him having his arse handed to him before he hits some high risk and gets the pin. I mean sooner or later, it'll probably get old.

For the time being, I'll just enjoy the ride, I have waited forever to see him in the main event. Hopefully he does well and I will be very happy for him.

For those that have touched on his past drug use, well that was in the past, everyone makes mistakes. He does seem to be putting in effort into his wrestling so I think it is a little bit unfair to judge a person on past history.

 

[Nin]

He's not even a legitimate challenger in my book, let alone champion. There is absolutely nothing about him that suggests he's anything other than a spot-monkey. He's useless on the mic, has next-to-no actual wrestling skills and looks like he'd get blown over by a light breeze. Jeff Hardy headlining Wrestlemania? Give me a fucking break! Honestly i cant remember a less worthy challenger. Khali at least looked a credible threat to Cena, Hardcore Holly Vs Brock, even Marc Henry against Angle. All more credible than Jeff.

 

[mjdod]

Jeff Hardy WILL NOT headline WrestleMania, yes I do agree that notion is rather ridiculous when there are many others more suitable to headline WrestleMania. Hes not that good on the mic, it gets a little cringeworthy at times but he isnt exactly useless to be honest. His wrestling however is improving, he has added more moves to his repetoire so it might be a little harsh to say he has next to nothing wrestling skills. I would say he is average at best. But what he is good at is doing spots which can be the climax of a match. Some people are entertained by it some are not.

 

[DX12]

I was once a person who only saw Jeff Hardy as a Midcard singles wrestler and top tag team wrestler. But since he has come back I have seen another side of jeff.

I've seen another side of jeff Hardy too... and it's the crappy john cena like side. I don't see what everybody sees in Jeff, he's just a overated monkey in my eyes. I mean lets face it, Jeff isn't as good as he was when he first came in to WWE. To me Jeff hardy is alot like John Cena now... he only uses about 5 or 6 moves maybe... the whisper in the wind in which he barely even scraps his opponet with his foot... that swinging sleeperslam crap he does... and a couple of other weak moves I can't think of right now. But sure, the fans love him now, but I beat if he overcame the odds as muh as Cena and won ppv after ppv for about 3 years then he would be getting booed out of the arena just like Cena has. Of course Jeff is a one hit wonder weather the hardy marks wanna belive it or not, WWE doesn't have anybody else to face Orton right now... and I asure yu if Bobby Lashley wasn't injuried right now that he would most likely be getting the WWE title shot right now while Jeff is stuck fighting Umaga every week on RAW. WWE is just working with whatthey have right now, which isn't alot. Just think if Stone Cold, The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, Kurt Angle, and even Booker T were still in WWE right now. Do you actually think Jeff would be getting a WWE title shot?? Hell no... he's just there because WWE couldn't find anyone else, like I said. Oh and as for his Mic Skills goes... oh don't even get me started on that! The guy does not sound Intimidating one bit and his promos don't get me hyped for any of his matches. Chris Benoit who was a great wrestler, didn't exactly have the best mic skills, but at least he sounded Intimidating... unlike the so called "Rainbow Warrior." Now I do understand that crappy wrestlers like Batista, John Cena ect. have made it by with terrible mic skills but think about it... do we really need ANOTHER wrestler like that? With no good mic skills once so ever? I think not. So to end this speech of mine, No Jeff Hardy is NOT a legitimate champion and never will be...