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Is he on the EDGE of becoming face?

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Now, this will be beating a dead horse, but with the possibility of Punk becoming heel, maybe turning Edge into a face would be a not-so-bad idea. I mean, he's leaning toward divorcing Vickie. That's a sign of some kind of change. But in all honesty, I think it would be cool to see Edge as the good guy for a change.

SO, thoughts and comments. Could Edge be making a turn along with Punk? Is it a good idea to do so? Where does Edge go from here?

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It COULD be possible. As you say, it depends on Punk's heel turn a great amount. I'm not so sure that Punk will turn heel, although now would be the perfect opportunity to if they indeed intend to do that.

People said that the segment with Vickie indicated a face turn, but I didn't see it. Neither did I see it in the Christian/Edge promo at Backlash. I think that he will probably stay heel. Plus, the roster for Smackdown seems to be pushinga little towards the face side. A great heel like Edge is pretty valuable in a mounting roster of faces. Jericho would be the only heel of considerable merit in the whole scramble, (except for the possible exception of Punk). So it is possible, but I'd bet against it.
 
It's funny, because the more I realize this, I would say a couple of years ago that Edge could never play the role of a face.

Given the whole circumstances of what happened between Edge/Lita/Matt Hardy behind the scenes, Iwhich became quite apparent to the public, there was no way any fan that generally followed the sport would respect Edge again. I mean, let's look in succession what the man did; He stole a man's girlfriend, proceeded to keep it a secret from his alleged "best friend", and still managed to keep his job, even though he was clearly in the wrong on the matter. That's a simple kind of douche-baggery the likes of which I have yet to see, quite frankly. And because the fans were aware of it, there was no way the fans could have any level of respect for the man Adam Copeland.

Now, it doesn't seem to be that much of a stretch to say that Edge could play the role of the face. it seems as though people have forgotten all of the events that happened long ago, and simply accept Edge because he's entertaining. I think people have forgotten the amount of douche-baggery he's committed in the past, and are willing to be open to the idea of being a face.

But quite frankly, Edge sucks as a face. Now now, before I awaken the Edge-heads, I want everyone to take the matter into context. Edge as a face is still better than most wrestlers as a face. But Edge plays the role of a heel do well, I really don't know how well he would do portraying the same type of face he did six or seven years ago. Edge doesn't have the same characters to make jokes at (a la Kurt Angle); I still feel what made Edge half as good a face as he did was the character's he played off of. Anyone can look good when they're going into a feud with Kurt Angle and a heel Christian. Either than that, Edge plays the role of heel infinitely better than he does a face.

For those that will say that "all he has to do is go back and reunite with Christian and play the dumb blonde he use to be"..... Um, no, he can't. Not only has Edge gone through too much character evolution since he and Christian were teaming, but people seem to forget an extremely important fact about E&C: They were heels. Sure, they were great, but they were still heels, and working in a heel's mentality. Edge's character has morphed way too much to play that role again.

In short, Lariat.... It's feasible. But I'm not entirely sure it's smart. And I, myself, wouldn't pull the trigger.
 
It's funny, because the more I realize this, I would say a couple of years ago that Edge could never play the role of a face.

Given the whole circumstances of what happened between Edge/Lita/Matt Hardy behind the scenes, Iwhich became quite apparent to the public, there was no way any fan that generally followed the sport would respect Edge again. I mean, let's look in succession what the man did; He stole a man's girlfriend, proceeded to keep it a secret from his alleged "best friend", and still managed to keep his job, even though he was clearly in the wrong on the matter. That's a simple kind of douche-baggery the likes of which I have yet to see, quite frankly. And because the fans were aware of it, there was no way the fans could have any level of respect for the man Adam Copeland.


I'm on the same boat as you with that logic as well. You have to remember though that there is a good amount of newer fans recently and many do not know that backstage story with Edge/Lita/Matt. Especially since you saw Matt help Edge beat Jeff a few times recently. I still lost respect for the man though since then. I was always a big mark for E&C but after that shit I couldn't see the guy as anything less than a douchebag.
I think they can potentially turn him not so much as a full fledged goody two shoe face like Cena but pretty much as he is now without the "opportunist" mentality. I think they will see how a Punk heel turn will work before they pull the trigger. Then again, creative is pretty much like a buncha jackoffs humping a doorknob so who the hell knows what they will do.
 
I'm sorry, but I think Edge can be a GREAT face. (Depending on WWE and how they would relate him as a face to the fans)

When Edge was face a while back, he was still that surfer type of character. Now he's edgy (no pun intended) and he's got attitude. Something WWE needs. A face with some attitude. I don't think WWE would turn him totally a kid attraction. They have that in Cena, and Rey, and Kofi. So what should they do? Turn Edge face, and have him the attitude face that WWE is lacking. This could be WWE's answer to having a "Non kiddie face" like they've put on Cena. Perhaps a face most older audiences could follow.


If he kept the same character, but not cheating, (as much) have him less of a crybaby, basically his character WITHOUT the heel traits of winning a match, Edge can be over huge.. I can just picture him in PUNK's face while Edge goes "WRONG WRONG WRONG" in his face, would be classic!!

I mean come on, Edge and Jericho? Edge and Punk? talk about great feuds. And even somewhere down the line we see Edge and HHH, or Edge and ORTON. I'm sorry, but Edge as a face on one brand and Cena on the other, is MONEY. Edge as a face for the older audience, and Cena for the younger. It's genius if you think about it.

And Orton, Jericho, Punk, as heels? I'm sorry but this could be the start of something big for WWE. They just have to roll with it.
 
My answer is yes and this is why.
Edge has been a heel for four years now and has won nine championships in
three. I'm a really huge fan of Edge don't get me wrong but i'm quite honestly getting tired of Edge having all these short reigns. He has been the top heel of Smackdown for awhile now but i think he should pass the torch to CM Punk as top heel and become face. Punk can play an amazing heel and this regin could be a whole lot better then that joke of a reign he had last year. Plus we could see some fresh feuds. Punk vs Hardy, Punk vs Morrison, Punk vs Mysterio, or how about Punk vs Undertaker? I myself and im sure others would find that a pretty interesting feud. and while Edge is face he could feud with Umaga, and Jericho, and he'd eventually feud with a heel CM Punk over the world title. I'm sure others will disagree but i think this would be a good time to turn Edge face. Hell 80% percent of the people cheer him anyway
 
I'm sorry, but I think Edge can be a GREAT face. (Depending on WWE and how they would relate him as a face to the fans)

When Edge was face a while back, he was still that surfer type of character. Now he's edgy (no pun intended) and he's got attitude. Something WWE needs. A face with some attitude. I don't think WWE would turn him totally a kid attraction. They have that in Cena, and Rey, and Kofi. So what should they do? Turn Edge face, and have him the attitude face that WWE is lacking. This could be WWE's answer to having a "Non kiddie face" like they've put on Cena. Perhaps a face most older audiences could follow.


If he kept the same character, but not cheating, (as much) have him less of a crybaby, basically his character WITHOUT the heel traits of winning a match, Edge can be over huge.. I can just picture him in PUNK's face while Edge goes "WRONG WRONG WRONG" in his face, would be classic!!

I mean come on, Edge and Jericho? Edge and Punk? talk about great feuds. And even somewhere down the line we see Edge and HHH, or Edge and ORTON. I'm sorry, but Edge as a face on one brand and Cena on the other, is MONEY. Edge as a face for the older audience, and Cena for the younger. It's genius if you think about it.

And Orton, Jericho, Punk, as heels? I'm sorry but this could be the start of something big for WWE. They just have to roll with it.


Again, look at who he was feuding with when he was a face; Kurt Angle and Christian. Jesus Christ, you couldn't ask for better fuel with to work with as a face. He's not having either of those wrestlers to work with... For now...

Again, I like the idea of Edge with attitude. I think what you're asking for is exactly what Mick Foley demanded of Edge in his last act in WWE: I'm not going to try and butcher it, so here's the promo for yourself....


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Basically, I feel like you're asking for a sadistic Edge. I feel that is the next possible step in the evolution of Edge. Can that make him a face? I suppose so. But a character like that is better suited as a heel. And Edge already works so well as a heel. So why change it?
 
Tenta, whether or not it would work, there were definitely seeds sown at Extreme Rules to turn Edge face. I have to say Y4J made a pretty decent point to have:

[/B] Edge as a face for the older audience, and Cena for the younger.

would work, especially on a marketing level. I get the feeling that WWE are trying to make RAW for the younger demographic and Smackdown for the older fans. Think about a feud between Edge and Cena, it would take on a whole new dimension if it were about the older fans vs. the younger fans.

I don't think the WWE could successfully turn Edge back into the surfer dude he was with Christian, but there was a period around the time Edge feuded with Kurt Angle that he played the face without as much of the California gimmick. Check this out:

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The WWE may decide against turning him fully face but I think the evidence is there that suggests otherwise. Edge plays a great heel, one of the best since Triple H in Evolution, but like Triple H there's no reason Edge couldn't do well as a face. I think it's time for a change.
 
The whole thing with Edge and Hardy is long gone. It's forgotten and both men have moved on. Everyone makes mistakes. They can make Edge face He doesn't neccesarily have to be the face he was before. He can be a face with a bit of attitude like Austin was. Or he can just be a character unto his own. Maybe the can do a storyline where Edge is tired of always being reffered to as the ultimate oppertunist. Maybe for once he wants to win the title through hard work and prove not only to everyone but to himself that he deserves to be a champion. This could go on for a while and he could keep coming short. Until finally he makes it. Or he could act face for awhile and at the end it was all a ploy. There is alot of possibilities at the moment. Just hope creative doesnt fuck it up. But Smackdown is becoming very interesting at the moment. Now if only they could bring back masked Kane....
 
Tenta, you keep arguing about the people he had to work with. Jericho is better than both of those! A few weeks back, Edge called him" tormentor of senior citizens" which proves to me he can still be funny. And though he plays a heel perfectly, at some point, wouldn't you wanna see a change? He has been a heel for so long. It has run its course. Change it up. Say Punk berates him about how he can't win a championship on his own(ironic) and Edge is determined to beat him clean. Then in the match, the opportunity to cheat presents itself in the form of a ref bump. But he avoids temptation.... Only to have Punk cheat to beat him. If you have the announcers sell it right, it would be a great way to help transition both turns.
 
I think he's gonna play the tweener role for a while.
Yeah, he split from Vickie and that'll get him cheers any time he mentions it. But looking at last week's SD, you know Edge is never gonna totally change. He does whatever it takes to win his matches, heel actions or not.

On the other hand, he's been heel for almost 5 years now. And he can play a good face so if any major heel should be turning right now, it's Edge.
 
Two things I never want to happen, me getting rape in the ass and Edge turning face. I mean some people are just born to be a heel, Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase, Randy Savage, Rick Flair in his Prime, Mr. Perfect, Randy Orton and Edge are born to be heel. I have seen Edge as a face and he sucked. He was corny and couldn't really get over with the crowd.

As a heel he became cool, something to watch for on TV and I don't want him becoming face being a shell of what he once was. I mean look at what the WWE did to MVP. From cool heel, to smiling in everybody's face. I don't see edge turning face as he has no reason to turn.
 
Tenta, you keep arguing about the people he had to work with. Jericho is better than both of those! A few weeks back, Edge called him" tormentor of senior citizens" which proves to me he can still be funny. And though he plays a heel perfectly, at some point, wouldn't you wanna see a change? He has been a heel for so long. It has run its course. Change it up. Say Punk berates him about how he can't win a championship on his own(ironic) and Edge is determined to beat him clean. Then in the match, the opportunity to cheat presents itself in the form of a ref bump. But he avoids temptation.... Only to have Punk cheat to beat him. If you have the announcers sell it right, it would be a great way to help transition both turns.


Exactly! Jericho is AMAZING. Having him and Edge go at it with their mic skills? Those guys can go at it for MONTHS without ANY titles and watch it fly.. And PUNK and Edge just on PAPER sounds amazing..

No fuel? Hardly.. If anything, he's got more now.. Edge face vs (INSERT HEEL HERE) is MONEY.
 
After watching Raw, I think the possibility of a face turn is a little higher. The way he berated Vickie was hilarious, and his comments were leaning more toward tweener than heel. There is still a chance he goes right back to being a little bitch on Smackdown! But hey, it could happen!
 
I don't think he'll be a fully fledged heel, I think he'll be more tweener because he jus won't pull off a full face turn, especially with the ultimate oppourtunist gimmick. I think now that Vickie's gone he will become more of a tweener, which isn't much of a change because he does actually get some pops.
 
There have been signs of a face-turn since Jericho came to Smackdown I reckon. Both have been arguing over who is the 'face of Smackdown' and Edge has made a few comments here and there that I don't think he'd have said a few months ago. For example when he commentated on Jeff V Jericho, he said that he had a lot of respect for Jeff (or something to that extent), which although only one sentence is a very face thing to say.

Whenever he and Jericho have squared up it's been Edge getting the bulk of the cheers. My thinking is that it is building to Jericho V Edge at Summerslam. It can be the Smackdown marquee match but with no title needed as they are both so over anyway - basically the match determines the face of Smackdown.
 
I really, truly hope not. I mean, I only say it becuase the WWE seems to think the best way to go about these things is to totally neuter the character, and everything that made him "cool" and make him totally bland and uninteresting. Just ask MVP about it.

If they keep the character mostly the same, just into a loner/tweener, then fair enough. Just please, oh please, dont ruin Edge. I doubt they would. He has carried that company on the heel side of things for the better part of the modern era.
 
If Edge turns Face, who do we have left? Punk (maybe), Jericho, Big Show, Miz, Benjamin (lulz), Orton and company? That would leave Orton as the top heel of the company. Oh my god, please no. Orton can't carry Raw, let along be the top heel of the company. Eugh.

I think people are largely over-reacting. Vickie is just another example of what happens when you break apart two heels, with one completely owning the other, arguable more hated heel. The crowd backs the heel who's making all the heelish comments, because they're torn. They can't cheer Vickie, they hate her. But they can cheer Edge, because they don't hate him quite as much. And besides, Edge is being funny!

Beside that, Edge can't turn heel. He has no replacement. You'll leave a void in that Smackdown main-event the size of Hudson Bay. Punk can't fill that void. Hell, Punk/Jericho/Show/and a heel HBK probably couldn't fill that void. Edge could pull off the face character, especially the "Look at me, I'm funny" face Edge character. The problem is, Smackdown couldn't pull it off.
 
I think now that edge is injured and wont return till 2011, when he comes back, he will be cheered. What WWE should do is not really specify whether he is a face or hell upon his return. I think whether a face or heel is holding a belt, Edge should of course come after them and let the fans decide. In my personal opinion, you cant be the rated R superstar and have the people cheer for you.
 

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