Is CM Punk boring?

[Why Always Me]

Before I start, I don't think he is. However, my girlfriend watches Raw every week with me and whilst she isn't a fan, she does enjoy it to an extent and knows whats going on.

She does not like CM Punk at all, she thinks he is boring, repeating the same things over and over again. When Punk says he is the best in the world I edge away from her a little bit as the vein in her forehead starts to bulge!

But seriously, to the average fan, is CM Punk boring? Or is he doing his job as a heel to get the average fan to react like my girlfriend?

 

[Sedated]

I don't think a wrestler is ever doing their job if people find them to be "boring"

If your girlfriend said stuff like "God, I hate this guy. He really pisses me off. I can't wait to see him get his ass kicked" that would be doing his job.

Saying she's bored and yawning each time he comes on the screen though is not the same.

 

[Nada]

Your gf does have a point, he does tend to say the same shit all the time. "I am the best in the world" and "show me respect!" "I deserve to be respected".

Every heel eventually becomes Chris Jericho in WWE it seems, Alberto del Rio did the same, it is a boring shtick. "I am the greatest of the great" come on, is that suppose to draw heat?!

But i would not blame Punk, the writers are just writing the same stuff, the only heel that felt any different the last 4-5 years was Mark Henry who was just booked as a monster, not some whiny condescending little *****.

We like Punk because he can wrestle and he can give a great promo on his own, its just that, perhaps casual fans like your gf either dont know that or dont care.

It is naive and elitist to expect every fan to care about pure technical wrestling ability and ring psychology, most fans just judge what they see not what the IWC knows, and we know he is better than presented.

 

[Why Always Me]

It is naive and elitist to expect every fan to care about pure technical wrestling ability and ring psychology, most fans just judge what they see not what the IWC knows, and we know he is better than presented.

Exactly why I am asking, I think CM Punk is the best in the WWE at the moment, and I appreciate his work and I know he is doing a good job as a heel. My girlfriend doesn't look at it that why hence why I am asking the question.

Same with Paul Heyman, I think the man is gold on the microphone and with his expressions and body language, when he drove off with CM punk after attacking Cena backstage, he had a look on his face that no-one else could pull off. My g/f though just sees him as a fat idiot will a bald ponytail, whereas I see someone who does their job very well, that being to get under your skin.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I'd say he is doing his job to the best of his abilities. Some of the problem may be his appearance. I noticed the wifey complaining about him recently. She came out into the den during an episode of Raw, saw CM Punk and said "How is that guy still the champion, can't Sheamus kick his ass or something?". Something is separating Punk from guys like Cena, Orton, Trips, Sheamus, Undertaker, etc. He is great in the ring and his promos are excellent, but to people like my wife he does not look believable as a world champion. She then finds him to be boring no matter how talented he is, thus wanting to see Sheamus kick his ass but due to Sheamus being more interesting not due to Punk's heel status. She likes Wade Barrett a lot too, but not CM Punk.

Something is definitely missing. It's not something as simple as Punk not doing his job though because he is doing the best he can to get the right reactions from the crowd with the whole "respect" thing and he constantly puts on great matches that he fuels his fans' anticipation for with promos that are equally great. Perhaps it does come down to his appearance? Show people who do not watch wrestling a picture of CM Punk, then show them a picture of Batista. Now ask them which one is the current WWE Champion. Guarantee you anyone who doesn't watch will pick Batista and then wonder why Punk is the champion. There's really not much WWE can do about that if it's truly the issue, other than finding someone who casual fans will believe to be more "world champion material" than Punk.

 

[Chadmw]

Overall I am a huge CM Punk fan, and I would watch him wrestle a sack of potatoes. But lately on the mic, he has been very boring and unoriginal. Up until he started this Disrespected stuff, he was on of the best on the Mic. I was a fan of the stuff he did with the Ses, Nexus and of course the Summer of Punk promo's.

But lately he has become predictable, for example, as soon as VKM started talking last night, I knew it wouldn't be long before Punk came down demanding respect. And the unfortunate part of his promo's lately is that you can shoot huge holes through his logic (but of course you can also shoot holes through some of the logic coming the other way as well). I am hoping that soon they will change his character a bit, keep him heel, but let him change his promo's up a bit.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Some folks might find Punk boring; he's engaged in a program that's different from everyone else's.... and if you're not into what he's selling, it might not inspire much interest.

We're used to wrestlers extolling themselves while putting others down; even good guys do that. Take Hulk Hogan: he'd fight on the side of truth and justice by smashing anyone who gets in it's way. Simple. Easy to understand .....and it didn't tax one's intelligence much.

Take Randy Savage: threatening in every word spoken in his constipated-sounding voice. (Yes, I remember hearing him). No need to guess his intentions; he was dangerous to everyone, including his allies after he turned good.

John Cena is easy to understand, too. He's good through-and-through. He doesn't praise himself or tell us anyone else stinks; he goes out and shows us.

Punk is different. He extols himself constantly ("best in the world!") He speaks of other wrestlers only in terms of how they pale in comparison to him ("I've given Cena shot after shot and he still hasn't gotten the job done.") Sure, other wrestlers speak of these things, but few do it as well as Punk.....really, it's surprising he was face as long as he was.

Still, there are only so many ways to tell us you're the best in the world. Punk was unique when railing against the WWE machine; his message has become somewhat repetitive if you're not fully into what he's up to. You need a long attention span to get the full flavor of what he's doing; he's not just telling us he's a great wrestler.....rather, he's telling us he's the only performer worth watching. While offering some grudging respect for Cena, Punk certainly doesn't praise anyone else. He thinks he's a nation unto himself. That's his gig, and no one does it better.

I don't think he's boring, but can see how other folks might, especially if they just skim the surface of his message without really listening to him.

 

[j2dlyc]

It can hardly be a surprise. In wwe nowadays a heel can never win clean, so they are forced to say they are the best, rather than ever get the chance to prove it. Hence why we have seen punk vs cena about 70 times this year

 

[googznation]

Overall I am a huge CM Punk fan, and I would watch him wrestle a sack of potatoes. But lately on the mic, he has been very boring and unoriginal. Up until he started this Disrespected stuff, he was on of the best on the Mic. I was a fan of the stuff he did with the Ses, Nexus and of course the Summer of Punk promo's.

But lately he has become predictable, for example, as soon as VKM started talking last night, I knew it wouldn't be long before Punk came down demanding respect. And the unfortunate part of his promo's lately is that you can shoot huge holes through his logic (but of course you can also shoot holes through some of the logic coming the other way as well). I am hoping that soon they will change his character a bit, keep him heel, but let him change his promo's up a bit.

i agree. I really have always enjoyed punk but latley i feel like something is missing from his character. Im really not a fan of THIS heel turn. I think as a heel he is great but i think he should be able to beat VKM he is our wwe champion. I dont blame him but i do think they need to seperate him and heyman. Heyman is good for a lesnar who is not great on the mic, but why have a mouth piece for the best talker in the Wwe. The whole situation really seems out of wack for me.

 

[vikesfan]

In one word,YES! I can name 10 guys in WWE now that Id rather watch wrestle any day over him. Orton,Kidd,Bryan,Barrett,Ziggler,Rhodes,Cesaro,Sandow,McIntire and Swagger to name a few could wrestle circles around Punk.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As with all other wrestlers, some fans are going to find Punk boring as they're just not really into him. Dagger's comment about his wife sort of not really vibing on Punk's appearance could be a reason for some disliking him. It's true that CM Punk doesn't look like the superhero World Champion that a lot of fans have kind of gotten used to over the years. Some fans do want a bigger, beefier looking guy as World Champion simply because he might look the part. The only problem with that is that a lot of the bigger & beefier guys can't really deliver apart from their appearance.

As for Punk being boring, I personally don't find him the least bit boring. Sure he repeats some stuff in his promos like being "the best in the world" and going on about "respect". That's because he's supposed to repeat. Punk's confidence in his own ability and believing that he doesn't get the respect he's due is the foundation for his heel turn. Ric Flair constantly talked about his wealth and the women he hooked up with, Hulk Hogan talked about Hulkamania running wild all over someone every time he got on the mic back in the day, John Cena preaches his mantra of being the ultimate good guy whenever he cuts a promo.

If you're not into CM Punk, then you'll be able to find something to justify to yourself or to some others who share your opinion as to why you don't like him. It's out there with every single wrestler past or present, you just have to look for it.

 

[Ryberg]

How can anyone ask that question seriously? It's not his fault they make him go out and say and do the same things week after week. Last night was HARDLY boring with Punk. If anything he is carrying the weaker speakers and wrestlers.

If ANYONE Is boring it's John Cena yet he's paraded out there every week with the same old 15-20 minutes of speech and 2 minutes he wrestles at of the end of his matches.

I agree with you Jack Hammer, no matter non-Punk fans will find a way to dislike him.

vikesfan- I can see you have a soft spot for the jobbers, Mid-carders, and never has beens.

 

[JJohns]

Anyone that thinks that Punk is boring, I tell them to watch the Invisible Mic promo that he had before he entered WWE. Or listen to his commentary from the TPI...I can't remember what year it was, but he was gold on the mic. The difference between those and what we get now is that CM Punk has to work within the bullet points that WWE Creative gives him. It's the nature of the beast. There are very few people that can come out, have a live mic, and say things that WWE doesn't map out for them.

As far as the "Best in the World" & "Show Me Some Respect" I think part of that is grounded in reality as well. Look at WWE Main Events since Punk won the title. Punk vs Miz vs ADR, Rumble, Cena vs Kane, Cena vs Rock, Cena vs Lesnar, Cena vs Johnny, Cena vs Show, Raw MITB, Triple H vs Lesnar, Punk vs Cena and it looks to be Punk vs Cena at HIAC.

8 of those did not feature the WWE Champion. 3 of them Featured Part-Time Wrestlers, with one of them featuring TWO Part-Time Wrestlers. John Cena was in 7 Main Events where Punk was in two. The WWE Champion Main Evented as many Pay Per Views as Brock Lesnar, who has only worked two Pay Per View matches this year.

Sorry to get off topic there, but that's why I don't believe that those promos are boring. They could use some change, but they aren't to the point where I want to hit the mute button every week.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

I think that CM Punk has the "good content" factor as I like to call it. Saying that he has being disrespected and start to half-shoot people is what he "experts lol" may call good content, good material so he comes out as an incredible promeur and by that point I think that Cena is a better promeur than Punk because he has shitty material to work with, or as I would say, the same material and saying every time the same thing with different words is what is turning Cena boring, not CM Punk. But no one can argue that Cena delivers the exact same shit perfectly like he was saying those for the first time.

I enjoy CM Punk to an extent, because I know that his character could get over with a guy like Cody Rhodes too. The good material he works with makes him at least more enjoyable than guys like Cena/Orton/Sheamus for instance. But the point is for the normal viewer, and by that I will say that "Yes" he is annoying and he sucks, just yesterday I think that Punk said "Dis/Respect" more than fifteen times, which could put me really drunk if I was playing a game with shots xd alchool shots xd for everytime he said those words.

 

[spaldoni]

I think CM Punk is great. I mentioned on another thread that I started watching wrestling in 1981 and stopped watching in 2000. CM Punk has gotten me to start watching again. He's different and unique. Besides his great promos and in ring talent, he's a long reigning champion. That is huge to me. It puts honor and credibility back in the world title. I would say the biggest problem would be showing to much of him. You want to leave people wanting more. Back in the day it was a big deal when Hogan made an appearance on WWF TV. Later in his career when he was with the NWO and on Nitro week after week, he got boring. To much of anything becomes stale. I would limit him a bit and build up his appearances to make them more special and must see.

 

[#MrScissorsKick]

This may be biased in my own opinion but whatever...

I think Punk is extremely boring. His feud earlier this year with Daniel bryan was not. After that feud wore out, punk and cena got going into their rivalry again. Its not just cm punk is a poor performer I'm not saying that at all but honestly this respect label is getting quite ols. We get it, you want respect. Week after week the same promo over and over again. Blah. Boring. This is why I'm not a punk fan. He's way too repetitive and annoying to the fact he leads me to believe he is, well boring.

 

[tomthebodz]

I think that from time to time his promos get a little bit boring, but he makes up for it with his in ring ability. His matches even with Cena are brilliant. He could carry a feud with 90% of the locker room.

 

[deslok]

People often ask on here, who should beat Punk for the title? I say have Brock Lesnar completely dismantle him, and have him take some time off. Come back like he was, during the summer of punk, but do not give him a title run again.
It's like watching a hipster enter an arm wrestling competition. He appeals to the more vocal minority of fans, but I don't think he should be completely left off the hook for the lower ratings lately.

 

[Darkseifer330]

I for one do not think CM Punk may be boring. To the eyes of much younger and casual fans (Dagger's wife for example) may view CM Punk as not able to be World Champion material and boring where as a more in depth or hardcore fan who see's CM Punk for who he is rather than his appearance may see him as awesome in ring, on the mic, on commentary. One of my main gripes is his heel turn, which seemed forced in my opinion which cause him to be repetitive at time constantly demanding respect, best in the world etc.

Punk is far from boring and he has a lot more going for him than even Cena, Sheamus, and most of those other muscle bound "world champion" material guys. People saying Punk may be boring is usually some Cena or Orton fan, two of the most stale guys out there. But if you want to blame someone for being boring point all fingers to creative, who in a way killed his character.

 

[waylonmercy]

I find CM Punk being throttled on the mic which makes him very unbelievable. Why does he really have to beat Cena again to prove he is the best in the world. He is the best in the world based on how over he was as a babyface and has all the elements necessary to be the best in the world of todays generation. WWE has made a huge mistake turning him heel. There is no reason why we couldn't have had Cena pander to the children and Punk pander to the mature crowd as faces. The nostalgia of Punk and Heyman together has worn off for me and I am starting to believe its just wasting the talents of Heyman and Punk by having to share mic time.

 

[Bigmrod90]

Its simple, if your wife isn't a fan then she's not going to understand what Punk is trying to do. Most marks appreciate Punk because they know he does a really good job in drawing heat and making his promos as realistic as possible. But realistic "in the wrestling world". A casual fan does not know and may not care about politics and whats going on in the back behind the scenes and Punk as of the last year has been incorporating a lot of what the marks know by looking at dirt sheets in his promos. But a casual fan is only going to pick up on the "male soap opera drama" so to speak and not so much of the deeper aspects to the angles. You should probably watch wrestling in another room or something if she gets you even thinking twice that Punk is boring. Lol

 

[NYTaker]

CM Punk boring, what planey are you living in, Punk is doing his job and making people hate him, your girlfriend probably just hates him and doesn't want to see him on TV, that's what heels are suppose to do, but in the end you will keep watching so you get to see the heel lose

 

[Trance Metaphor]

I don't think CM Punk is boring at all right now. In fact, I'm a huge fan of CM Punk as a result of him winning the WWE Championship for the second time and then slowly transitioning into a heel. His past heel turns pale in comparison to this one, because not only is he condescending and truthful like before, he was cutting bold promos left and right that blurred the lines between kayfabe and reality while initially maintaining the anti-hero image. The one thing I always loved about CM Punk were his references to past stars, accomplishments, antics and traits. He's just a natural on the mic. I also don't know of any current heels that are as top tier as him. Everything from the way he carries himself and the way he walks down to the ring with Paul Heyman holding his WWE Championship speaks volumes. There's no one else like him and I feel like a lot of other heels (ex. Alberto Del Rio) could really learn a thing or two from him. Yes, his "respect me" rants are recycled jargon in some ways (remember Undertaker back in 2001?), but everything he does is memorable. I didn't even expect CM Punk to win the WWE Championship, let alone beat John Cena for it and hold it for as long as he has. It's great and I love every minute of it.

 

[Mantis]

Repetitive? Yes. Boring? No.

Anyone who gets a lot of mic time will sound repetitive. Even Dwayne's razzle dazzle catchphrases got old at a certain point.

In this day and age, for a heel to draw real heat, he has to approach the line of being "boring" and "annoying". It worked for Jericho, Vickie, and Big Johnny; and I think it's working pretty well for Punk, even though he has fans that will never boo him.

Even though he continues to demand respect and call himself the best in the world, the things he says in between are still interesting and his matches are always entertaining. I can't remember the last time I was disappointed by a CM Punk match.

 

[#tamale]

I think this has to do more with the fact that he doesn't wrestle as often on Raw.

My fiance and my dad also found him to be whining and boring at times but once they saw Night of Champions (which I made them watch), they actually saw his talent in the ring as a heel. His heelish tactics build up towards the PPV where he delivers which works, but fans need to watch the PPV where he will deliver.

Now they understand his persona and they want to see someone beat him for the title, but because they hate him.