IMPACT Wrestling LD for 08.18.11

[Mighty NorCal]

Your biggest draw should be the featured bout, obviously. Anyone trying to argue that Sting Vs Hogan isnt TNA biggest card to play surely looks foolish.

Put it this way. I go to WWE shows in Philly every time they come around, I live about 50 miles from there.

Would I go to BFG? No. Sting Vs Hogan for the last time, in all likelyhood Hogans last match? You bet your ma'fucking ass ill be there.

 

[Shocky]

What? Crimson and Angle should headline. I'm sorry, I'm as much of a Hogan mark as anyone, but I won't pay a dime to watch him wrestle anymore. Sting and Hogan are an upper mid card match at best. I think some people need to put the nostalgia away and come with the rest of us to the year 2011.

 

[Gelgarin]

I think a distinction should be realised between which match actually headlines the show, and which match is the primary focus of the build. They don't necessary have to be one and the same.

Personally I think it's perfectly easy to build multiple matches for a PPV, but if I had to choose one to focus on then it would be the encounter between Hogan and Sting, because that is going to generate the most interest. If I'm promoting the show then that's the focus of my campaign.

Come BFG however; Kurt Angle goes on last. He's more likely to deliver a performance that will send the bulk of the audience away happy. People paying for epic nostalgia will be happy wherever it comes on the card, whereas fans of "in ring action" tend to get pissy if it doesn't show up in the main event. As such Kurt Angle and friend (I personally am betting against it being Crimson) is the better choice to main event the show.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I think a distinction should be realised between which match actually headlines the show, and which match is the primary focus of the build. They don't necessary have to be one and the same.

Personally I think it's perfectly easy to build multiple matches for a PPV, but if I had to choose one to focus on then it would be the encounter between Hogan and Sting, because that is going to generate the most interest. If I'm promoting the show then that's the focus of my campaign.

Come BFG however; Kurt Angle goes on last. He's more likely to deliver a performance that will send the bulk of the audience away happy. People paying for epic nostalgia will be happy wherever it comes on the card, whereas fans of "in ring action" tend to get pissy if it doesn't show up in the main event. As such Kurt Angle and friend (I personally am betting against it being Crimson) is the better choice to main event the show.

Right, thatll be great for the mega heat magnet Crimson.

Go ask Triple H, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, John Cena, and The Miz about following legends in the main event of the big show. Always goes over fantastically.

 

[Gelgarin]

The show will be in Philly in front of a couple of thousand people. It'll be a hot crowd all night.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Especially with the NorCal involved. they had better not get me on camera crying for Hogan

 

[The Crock]

The show will be in Philly in front of a couple of thousand people. It'll be a hot crowd all night.

Toronto crowds are generally awesome, but they were dead for Triple H vs Jericho at WrestleMania X8.

At Bound for Glory, Hogan and Sting should go on last, the way I see it.

 

[Shocky]

You aren't honestly comparing Rock/hogan from 2002 to Sting/Hogan 2011?

 

[The Crock]

You aren't honestly comparing Rock/hogan from 2002 to Sting/Hogan 2011?

It's not the same magnitude, but it's still a valid comparison. The crowd will still be dead after Hogan/Sting, it's bound to make them go insane. Angle/Crimson shouldn't go on last, unless they want crickets the whole time.

 

[Shocky]

I think everyone is putting too much stock into the Philly crowd not tearing that match apart. Those northeast crowds are fickle as can be. You get them in a smaller arena where the mob mentality takes over, it could turn into a disaster. Angle is the safer bet to close the show.

 

[The Crock]

I'm certain they'll tear Hogan apart, undoubtedly, but I think in doing so that they'll get behind Sting... Which works for the match, actually.

 

[Joe's Gonna Kill You]

Yea the Philly crowd shitting on Hogan might be a good thing for the match Hogan is a heel and if he gets booed that's a good thing right?

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Yea the Philly crowd shitting on Hogan might be a good thing for the match Hogan is a heel and if he gets booed that's a good thing right?

Getting booed and, "You Fucked Your Daughter!" chants are two different things.

And nobody should put it past Philidelphia chanting something like that. Hell, Linda Hogan will probably be sitting front row with Hulk's toilet seat in hand.

 

[The Crock]

The strong reaction will only add to the "big match feel" of it. The more invested the crowd is in it, even if their sole purpose is to shit on Hogan, the better the match comes off.

 

[X]

I'll give them every benefit of the doubt just like I did with Rock/Hogan, but I am in no way expecting a match even closely resembling the quality of the Rock/Hogan match. I'm expecting something more along the lines of the JCW Legends & Icons PPV from this past week that I reviewed. Which is sad as fuck, watching old men hobble around the ring in embarrassing fashion.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Hogan vs. Sting is a sideshow. However, at this point, it outdraws Angle/Crimson (or whoever it ends up being). Philly might shit all over it, but Hogan's the heel. For some reason, I can't see a smark crowd shitting on Sting.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I would want the featured match, the main event of the evening, on my biggest show of the year, to be Hulk Hogan versus Sting in 2011, especially when I don't think it holds as much appeal for people as some guys think. I don't think the focal point of the company should be a sideshow.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I would want the featured match, the main event of the evening, on my biggest show of the year, to be Hulk Hogan versus Sting in 2011, especially when I don't think it holds as much appeal for people as some guys think. I don't think the focal point of the company should be a sideshow.

I wouldn't let it close the show, but people (in general) are far more familiar with Hogan and Sting as opposed to Kurt Angle and whoever he's wrestling. TNA doesn't have the luxury of moving away from these guys yet.

 

[shattered dreams]

Since when does the poster determine the focal point?

Since when can there only be one focal point?

You do not market such a show around only young, unestablished talent. The people that appeals to do not need to be sold the show via poster etc. Not to mention doing so would basically spoil a few months worth of storylines. I haven't read any spoilers but I think Crimson-Angle is anything but a lock anyway. Regardless, any idea that suggests TNA isn't showcasing Crimson right now is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Who the fuck looks at posters? I swear, I have never clicked on one of those links and I never will.

 

[shattered dreams]

I am hard pressed to remember any PPV poster ever.

 

[X]

Ever?

That's hurt. Honestly I can still remember most of the Attitude era posters, because back then the posters were actually sort of important because we didn't really know what events were going to happen when and what they would be called and what theme they might have or whatever. I will forever have the posters for Summerslam 98, and Fully Loaded 1999 etched in my mind because of how much I was anticipating both of those shows back when they happened and how just seeing a poster for the show was awesome.

 

[Slyfox696]

I am hard pressed to remember any PPV poster ever.

Same here.

 

[hatehabsforever]

The poster here is sort of irrelevant to the discussion, in that it was just intended to be an example of the mindset of the company heading into BFG and beyond. Truth be told, I couldn't care less who is on the poster, because I wouldn't watch this PPV if Vince McMahon was on the poster (OK, that may be an exaggeration). I just think the prominence of certain members of the roster, and the lack of others, speaks volumes about where they are headed regarding BFG and beyond.

If they are going to put Hogan, Flair, and Sting front and centre on the poster, even though they are old and decrepit (especially 2/3 of them), it would suggest to me that we are destined for a PPV (and several months later) of old guys being featured more significantly than the up and coming talent. If they are going to leave guys like Styles and Crimson off the poster altogether, not even thinking them to be worthy of a corner or the background, safe to say that there is no imminent youth movement.

You are correct that the poster really doesn't matter much. Truth be told, if it weren't for these forums, I doubt I would have ever seen it. But any minute possibility that I would have purchased this event went right out the window when I saw the fogies front and centre on the poster. And it makes me glad that I stopped watching TNA PPV's with my one and only momentary lapse of reason, Bound For Glory 2010.