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And if the group were made up of people with tons of past accomplishments (don't know why this matters anyways) people will complain that TNA only uses established talent and doesn't make "stars"
 
And if the group were made up of people with tons of past accomplishments (don't know why this matters anyways) people will complain that TNA only uses established talent and doesn't make "stars"

Why does it matter? Alright, we'll go with that. In other words, this could be JTG, Robbie E and David Sammartino out there as Aces and 8's and it would be the same result. See why that makes no sense? Also, I'd be fine with them using established stars, new guys or whatever they used if those guys actually won something of note.
 
Technically they aren't making stars here either. Mike Knox is going to be known as the guy who used to stop Kelly Kelly from stripping, Doc is barely called Doc and is still referred to as Luke Gallows. I'm fine with Devon leading because I actually like Devon, so I'm biased, but at the end of the day they've seemingly built a stable out of nobodies.

At least had they gathered a group of unknowns, they could have been established and people would recognize them as "the new guys on IW," instead you have what I said above, Mike Knox and Luke Gallows.
 
On top of that, think about this: who actually remembers Mike Knox? The guy was around on ECW for a bit and was overshaddowed by Kelly Kelly, then he went to the main shows and somehow got in an Elimination Chamber, then he did absolutely nothing for about two years before getting released. He hasn't been seen in a mainstream company since April of 2010 and now he's one of the first guys revealed on this team?
 
Like who And Docs and Knoxs lack of past accomplishment has no bearing on them being seen as "threats"

Yeah, it kind of does. These guys have never won anything or beaten anybody, so why in the world would I believe they can beat the biggest names ever? Look at the reaction when D-Von was revealed. Most people said "D-Von??? REALLY?" That's because D-Von isn't a guy people buy as a big deal in singles matches. The same is true for both guys guys brought in. It's like bringing in three jobbers to fight together. It doesn't make them a threat, but rather three guys who are just together and have to be beaten up together.

Why am I arguing with you anyway? It's TNA so they can do no wrong.
 
Why does it matter? Alright, we'll go with that. In other words, this could be JTG, Robbie E and David Sammartino out there as Aces and 8's and it would be the same result. See why that makes no sense? Also, I'd be fine with them using established stars, new guys or whatever they used if those guys actually won something of note.

My point is what they've done is irrelevant to them being threats
 
Yeah, it kind of does. These guys have never won anything or beaten anybody, so why in the world would I believe they can beat the biggest names ever? Look at the reaction when D-Von was revealed. Most people said "D-Von??? REALLY?" That's because D-Von isn't a guy people buy as a big deal in singles matches. The same is true for both guys guys brought in. It's like bringing in three jobbers to fight together. It doesn't make them a threat, but rather three guys who are just together and have to be beaten up together.

Why am I arguing with you anyway? It's TNA so they can do no wrong.

You make them threats by having them beat people NOW they aren't seen as threats by many because they lose too often. If they were also were to debut new talent In the group are those guys not threats because they have no past accomplishments how is any New incoming talent supposed to be seen as a threat
 
You make them threats by having them beat people NOW they aren't seen as threats by many because they lose too often. If they were also were to debut new talent In the group are those guys not threats because they have no past accomplishments how is any New incoming talent supposed to be seen as a threat

These aren't new guys, though. These guys already have reputations as nothings and TNA isn't doing anything to lead us to believe that they've somehow changed. They still lose all the time.

If they were a group of rookies, you'd have a point. But they aren't and you don't.
 
These aren't new guys, though. These guys already have reputations as nothings and TNA isn't doing anything to lead us to believe that they've somehow changed. They still lose all the time.

If they were a group of rookies, you'd have a point. But they aren't and you don't.

What they did or didn't do in WWE shouldn't matter how TNA uses them now is what should matter and TNA could be doing a better job with that no doubt
 
The whole point of an outside angle is to get the fans to legitimately believe that the invading army is a credible threat to your guys. It's as old as time. WCW did it with the nWo, fuck, WWE managed it with some rookies.

If even you can't take the Aces & 8's as a legitimate threat to the TNA roster, than how is this succeeding? I'd really like to know
 
They really need to kill the A&8s angle. Point blank, execution-style.

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I found some wicked BDSM while searching for this image. Don't know if it's fake, but bound women being stabbed. A hell of a lot more interesting than tonight's episode.

Edit: pretty sure it's fake, but holy fuck it's graphic.
 
The whole point of an outside angle is to get the fans to legitimately believe that the invading army is a credible threat to your guys. It's as old as time. WCW did it with the nWo, fuck, WWE managed it with some rookies.

If even you can't take the Aces & 8's as a legitimate threat to the TNA roster, than how is this succeeding? I'd really like to know

It's succeeding in providing me with entertaining TV
 
It's succeeding in providing me with entertaining TV

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, bub. But it seems like TNA would have to rape puppies in ring for you not to be entertained.

And even then, I'm pretty sure you'd get a semi.

Ok, great, they've cornered the JGKY market. See anyone else who thinks this angle isn't floundering that isn't a complete moron?
 
I'm a complete moron because I enjoy something on TV that makes sense

EDIT: once again their are things I don't enjoy I just don't feel the need to complain about the show non stop
 
I'm a complete moron because I enjoy something on TV that makes sense

You're an absolute moron for many reasons. That is not one of them.

And, while I'm onto this, what about this makes sense? Or, for that matter, have they ever explained why Aces & 8's is invading Impact?
 
For the record, Joe, when it takes you 15 minutes to explain an angle, there's probably a problem with it. Or with you. Either way
 

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