Glass Ass: The OFFICIAL JGlass Thread

[Uncle Sam]

I should point out that Ryder was sabotaged rather than being "exposed" if that's what you're implying.

 

[JGlass]

I should point out that Ryder was sabotaged rather than being "exposed" if that's what you're implying.

I know, I just read your post in the WWE TV section. I'd counter that Zack Ryder really wasn't ever as over as you claim he was, but I suppose that's a matter of opinion.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Man, The Rock's nipples are ERECT in HD.

 

[Барбоса]

What, the people in Numidia didn't leave documents chronicling the fighting style of the Numidian armies?

They didn't write anything.

We rely on the Romans for our information about the Numidians but they don't seem all that interested in explaining how their Numidian opponents/allies (long story) fought aside from stating that they used infantry, cavalry and occasionally elephants.

For my purposes, I need some Roman historian to state specifically what kind of infantry ie. light-armed skirmishers. They are not complying so far.

 

[Uncle Sam]

If Alberto Del Rio is over enough to be world champion, Zack Ryder was over enough to win it twenty times.

 

[JGlass]

They didn't write anything.

We rely on the Romans for our information about the Numidians but they don't seem all that interested in explaining how their Numidian opponents/allies (long story) fought aside from stating that they used infantry, cavalry and occasionally elephants.

For my purposes, I need some Roman historian to state specifically what kind of infantry ie. light-armed skirmishers. They are not complying so far.

What will you do if you can't find the document you're looking for?

If Alberto Del Rio is over enough to be world champion, Zack Ryder was over enough to win it twenty times.

Your assuming WWE cares about how over someone is before they put the title on him. I think most people agree that Daniel Bryan wasn't nearly as hot as he is now when he first won his World Heavyweight Championship.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I assume no such thing (and have learned that lesson the hard way and many times over) - just that my assertion that "x was over enough to be world champion" is true if we accept that "current world champion, y, is much less over than x was." Maths.

 

[Барбоса]

What will you do if you can't find the document you're looking for?

Probably just present the circumstantial evidence.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

I got tickets to The Predators home opener against St. Louis Monday night. Now I just hope it doesn't snow like it has been.

 

[Thriller Ant]

I got tickets to The Predators home opener against St. Louis Monday night. Now I just hope it doesn't snow like it has been.

I'd like to apologize in advance

 

[Richard Blonoff]

I'd like to apologize in advance

I'm an Avs fan first and foremost but Nashville is the closest city to me that has an NHL team so I have a soft spot in my heart for them.

 

[Thriller Ant]

I'm an Avs fan first and foremost but Nashville is the closest city to me that has an NHL team so I have a soft spot in my heart for them.

So it won't hurt you too bad when the Blues beat them?

 

[JGlass]

I assume no such thing (and have learned that lesson the hard way and many times over) - just that my assertion that "x was over enough to be world champion" is true if we accept that "current world champion, y, is much less over than x was." Maths.

Fair enough.

Probably just present the circumstantial evidence.

Fair enough.

I got tickets to The Predators home opener against St. Louis Monday night. Now I just hope it doesn't snow like it has been.

Fair enough. I actually have tickets to see the Devils game on the 25th. I should probably acquire bus tickets for the ride home, though...

 

[The Doctor]

As a horribly vain individual who likes spreading around the dumb comedy segments I book, I present to the viewers of this thread this. Basically, Bud Light are a stoner and his angry drunken friend, and last week the stoner stole a television. This week, this happened.

 

[Nate DaMac]

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http://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/forum...kno-how-2-dress-properly-after-20-yrz/#p19576

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Hey Jiggles, Cena to win the Rumble?

 

[JGlass]

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http://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/forum...kno-how-2-dress-properly-after-20-yrz/#p19576

The grammar of this link pretty much told me everything I needed to know before I clicked on it.

Hey Jiggles, Cena to win the Rumble?

I think so, but I would be hesitant to put money on it. With no true superstars away with injuries or time off we can discount any surprise return victories, a Sheamus repeat seems highly unlikely, Big Show might not even be in the Rumble, and Orton is in no position for a sudden push like that.

All signs point to Cena, but I have one wild shot in the dark winner... Brock Lesnar. Delberto has definitely proven he's got some face chops, and a WrestleMania match against Brock Lesnar would solidify his position as a top face in the company. The Cross Armbreaker vs. The Kimura Lock would make for an interesting build, and I have few doubts that the match would be very entertaining.

Still, it seems more likely to me that Brock Lesnar will return during the Rumble and will wind up feuding with whomever eliminates him from the match, and John Cena will go on to win and challenge The Rock for the WWE Title at WrestleMania. There are about a hundred and two theories floating around right now about how Punk retains and fights Taker or The Rock wins and fights Lesnar. Some of the theories make sense, and some of them sound like great stories, but the fact of the matter is that WrestleMania is all about those buyrates, and Rock/Cena II is twice the draw that Punk/Taker is.

 

[Барбоса]

Rock/Cena II is twice the draw that Punk/Taker is.

And Rock/Lesnar is probably twice the draw again.

Although that does leave Cena somewhat out in the cold if Punk goes after the Streak.

 

[justinsayne]

Outside of Cena the only other people I could see possibly winning the Rumble are Taker, Ryback, Christian, & Mark Henry, but I feel those four are even longshots at this point, we don't know if Christian or Henry are even coming back (the the RR would be a great place for their returns). If Ryback were to win I doubt they'd him go after the WWE title, or that they'd want a face vs. face WHC match at WM, which is what they would get if Delberto is still WHC at that time. Taker coming back for the RR just doesn't seem like him at this point, why would be bother with the RR when he can just come back & demand a title shot like Rock did. Ultimatly I think Cena is the most logical choice to win the RR.

I have a feeling Rock won't be walking out of RR with the WWE title, I think Punk manages to escape with the belt again through some weaselly tactics, giving Rock a rematch at EC where he wins, Cena then comes out & says he'll be challenging the Rock for the belt at WM, Punk says he demands he's granted his rematch at WM, & a triple threat match is set.

 

[Барбоса]

If I was going with an outside bet to win the Rumble, I would go with Punk.

 

[JGlass]

And Rock/Lesnar is probably twice the draw again.

Although that does leave Cena somewhat out in the cold if Punk goes after the Streak.

Disagree. There's a huge portion of the WWE fanbase (quite possibly a majority) that didn't see Lesnar's original run in the WWE and most of those people are also unconcerned with his UFC accomplishments. On top of that, don't you think people would be willing to pay more money to see if the guy they've been supporting for the better part of a decade can avenge his loss from a year earlier?

Outside of Cena the only other people I could see possibly winning the Rumble are Taker, Ryback, Christian, & Mark Henry, but I feel those four are even longshots at this point, we don't know if Christian or Henry are even coming back (the the RR would be a great place for their returns). If Ryback were to win I doubt they'd him go after the WWE title, or that they'd want a face vs. face WHC match at WM, which is what they would get if Delberto is still WHC at that time. Taker coming back for the RR just doesn't seem like him at this point, why would be bother with the RR when he can just come back & demand a title shot like Rock did. Ultimatly I think Cena is the most logical choice to win the RR.

I have a feeling Rock won't be walking out of RR with the WWE title, I think Punk manages to escape with the belt again through some weaselly tactics, giving Rock a rematch at EC where he wins, Cena then comes out & says he'll be challenging the Rock for the belt at WM, Punk says he demands he's granted his rematch at WM, & a triple threat match is set.

Punk's not leaving the Rumble with the belt. There's no way the WWE keeps that belt off of Rock.

If I was going with an outside bet to win the Rumble, I would go with Punk.

I don't think that even qualifies as an outside bet. His odds are probably roughly the same as Tensai's.

 

[Coco]

I think you're attributing the effect to the wrong cause, similar to how people thought that rats spontaneously generated from piles of dirty clothing. When as the WWE ever been scraping the indys as deep as they are now? I don't think it's the IWC that has gotten these guys hired so much as it is a change in management, namely Triple H.

Even before Triple H took the role he has now behind the scenes, Rob Van Dam parleyed his indy following into unexpected success in the WWE. And his success, as well as the cult following of ECW, led to an independent promotion getting a reunion show under the WWE umbrella. So IWC adulation leading to WWE success is hardly a new thing. It's just become more prevalent in recent years because it's clearer than ever where the best new talent get their first fan recognition.

I don't know if the adulation we give creates a self-fulfilling prophecy or if we're just really great talent scouts (probably the former), but there's something going on here in regards to the IWC creating stars. To pretend it isn't happening is to turn your back on the future.

The report I read on LOP this morning about Vince considering turning Ziggler face on account of the reactions he gets in the New York market certainly indicates that even that senile fool is on the right side of this issue. Don't have your head further up your ass than Vince McMahon does, Jiggles.

Plus, unlike Ziggler, Daniel Bryan, Punk, and Cesaro are great wrestlers. Once Ziggler is exposed as the weak wrestler he is, his IWC support will drop out and where will he be then? After all, look what happened to Ryder.

Ziggler's a weak wrestler in the same way that Kurt Angle and Shawn Michaels are. Yeah, they're weak. But it's far from a hard, obvious sort of weakness that most people will notice. He'll be just fine. Keep in mind that the IWC doesn't always anoint heroes on the basis of actual talent.

And what happened to Ryder was sabotage. 100%.

I know, I just read your post in the WWE TV section. I'd counter that Zack Ryder really wasn't ever as over as you claim he was, but I suppose that's a matter of opinion.

Ryder's raucous crowd reactions and success at the concession stands are far from matters of opinion.

A shame the political assassination all but did him in.

 

[justinsayne]

NHL Center ice is only $50 for the season, which seems like a very fair price given the shorten season & all the shit I can do with the Center Ice package. I'm seriously thinking about getting it this year.

 

[Coco]

Disagree. There's a huge portion of the WWE fanbase (quite possibly a majority) that didn't see Lesnar's original run in the WWE and most of those people are also unconcerned with his UFC accomplishments. On top of that, don't you think people would be willing to pay more money to see if the guy they've been supporting for the better part of a decade can avenge his loss from a year earlier?

Mania and SummerSlam both did much better than usual last year. They both featured turn of the century stars in well-built, highly-promoted, highly-anticipated matches. Build Rock vs Lesnar just as well as those matches and you're looking at an even bigger draw. Rock vs Lesnar is a marque match that essentially eliminates the weaker-drawing half of both the Mania and the SummerSlam main events. I'm not saying Trips or Cena are weak draws. But they certainly don't have the aura surrounding them that Rock and Brock do at the moment. It'd be a spectacle on a damn near unprecedented level, featuring two major mainstream stars whose roads to fame began with stardom at the upper echelon of WWE.

Barbosa has the right of it.

 

[Барбоса]

Disagree. There's a huge portion of the WWE fanbase (quite possibly a majority) that didn't see Lesnar's original run in the WWE and most of those people are also unconcerned with his UFC accomplishments. On top of that, don't you think people would be willing to pay more money to see if the guy they've been supporting for the better part of a decade can avenge his loss from a year earlier?

Wrestling fans who are going to buy Wrestlemania for Rock/Cena II will buy it for Rock/Brock. Non-wrestling fans who do not care who John Cena is, will be more interested to see a multi-millionaire movie star vs a former UFC heavyweight champion.

Punk's not leaving the Rumble with the belt. There's no way the WWE keeps that belt off of Rock.

While I still see Rock is the favourite, I do not think it is 100% clear cut. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that part of Vince's agreement with Rocky was for him to wrestle a series against Cena and in between put over the WWE champion. Brock costing the Rock the title is easily foreseeable.

I don't think that even qualifies as an outside bet. His odds are probably roughly the same as Tensai's.

Rock beats Punk for the title. Punk then sneaks his way into the Rumble and wins it. Entirely possible, if the Rumble goes on last, which is not a given.