Glass Ass: The OFFICIAL JGlass Thread

I think it depends on the QB, there are 3-4 I would consider worthy of a first round pick.

The way the NFL works these days, you pretty much have to. Flow of the draft will play a big role too, tho. If I can get a top ten guy though, its a done deal.

I get what you are both saying, but I feel like I can still get good value for a quarterback a bit later than I can for say, running back.
 
If I could manage to score either Cam Newton or Colin Kaepernick early, and get someone solid like Andy Luck or Alex Smith in the 5th - 7, that would be premium. You can double dip with the first two, and if they dont pan out or get hurt because of their playing style, you will still get solid production out of one of the others.
 
QB: Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden

RB: Ray Rice, Reggie Bush, Stevan Ridley, Darrenn McFadden, Vick Ballard

WR: Brandon Marshall, Torrey Smith, Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Emmanuel Sanders

TE: Brandon Myers

D/ST: Houston, St. Louis (musy carry 2 at all times)

K: Justin Tucker

10 team league. I felt I did good.
 
You know Dave's friend who basically told Chris everything about Kick's Ass dad and subsequently caused his death only for him to have a completely happy ending no consequences aside like nothing ever happened?

Yeah that was ridiculous and a borderline slap in the face to the viewers, I did like Hit Girl's final fight but everything Chloe Grace Moretz did in this movie was a major step down from the previous film, in fact there was so many things from the previous film which just got worse.

How was it cheap? His character was developed and he had motive (he was pissed at Dave and Marty) and he wanted to be part of something. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's a slap in the face.

And I also don't see how Hit Girl's part was a major step down from the last movie. She had a bunch of great fight scenes, and better yet she had the best line of the film.

This just sounds like typical fanboy sour grapes.


Is it weird that I'm very, very excited to see how Chloë Grace Moretz develops?

Not even a little.

Just got back from seeing Kick Ass 2, while it had it's moments, it's... not great, or really even good. It felt like it was trying so hard to be like the first one only to completely miss the mark. The sick stick scene was probably one of the most ******ed, unnecessary displays of vulgarity I think I have ever witness inside a movie theater. I like most of the stuff with Hit-girl, who is really the star of these movies, & the little nod to Mark Millar with Kick Ass's dad hanging up the Superman poster in his room. The first Kick Ass was leaps & bounds better than this. I had more fun with Red 2 than with Kick Ass 2.

I'm interested to hear why you thought Kick-Ass was better than Kick-Ass 2. They're practically the same movie, Kick-Ass 2 was just more massive.

If I could manage to score either Cam Newton or Colin Kaepernick early, and get someone solid like Andy Luck or Alex Smith in the 5th - 7, that would be premium. You can double dip with the first two, and if they dont pan out or get hurt because of their playing style, you will still get solid production out of one of the others.

If you take Kaepernick before round 5, you're doing it wrong. And if you take Alex Smith before round 10, you're really doing it wrong.

QB: Matthew Stafford, Brandon Weeden

RB: Ray Rice, Reggie Bush, Stevan Ridley, Darrenn McFadden, Vick Ballard

WR: Brandon Marshall, Torrey Smith, Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Emmanuel Sanders

TE: Brandon Myers

D/ST: Houston, St. Louis (musy carry 2 at all times)

K: Justin Tucker

10 team league. I felt I did good.

What position did you pick out of? I'd assume pretty late, like 9 or 10, if you went Ray Rice and then Brandon Marshall. I'm glad you posted this since it will give me some insight to the WZ Small League where I'll be drafting last.
 
Like Ty said, Ridley put up nearly 1300 yards last season and scored 12 TDs. Brady will still get to toss the ball plenty, but if you don't think the run game is going to see an increased workload, then you're shitting yourself.
I'm probably undervaluing him, but I just see him losing a lot of production thanks to the loss of TE's. Generally speaking runners are always better when the defense needs to worry about dominant receiving Tight Ends.

I don't think he'll be shit, I just don't think he'll be a great fantasy back this year. Definitely draftable (unless you refuse to draft Patriots like me), just for me more of a 3rd fantasy back.

Yeah, up the middle, and TEs generally aren't the ones making that path on run plays up the middle.
While they aren't making the holes by blocking, they're making the holes by drawing attention of the defenders away from where the ball ultimately will go.
 
How was it cheap? His character was developed and he had motive (he was pissed at Dave and Marty) and he wanted to be part of something. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's a slap in the face.

And I also don't see how Hit Girl's part was a major step down from the last movie. She had a bunch of great fight scenes, and better yet she had the best line of the film.

This just sounds like typical fanboy sour grapes.

The character causing arguably Dave's biggest heartbreak and tragedy and after doing fuck all besides that and even joining the bad guys he just switches sides and celebrates with the good guys like everything's okay. I'm not the only person who had a problem with this either, so yes it can be considered that.

The essence of Hit Girl is taken away by the fact that she doesn't look twelve anymore and her lines aren't very well thought out it's just gratuitous swearing for the hell of it. The fight scenes were shitty shaky cam which don't hold a candle to the first. Go watch her corridor fight in the original and try to tell me even the Mother Russia fight comes close to how good that was.

The movie tanked this weekend at the box office. This isn't sour grapes. I loved the first one and a huge fan of the series overall, this one is just one of the worst sequels ever.
 
What position did you pick out of? I'd assume pretty late, like 9 or 10, if you went Ray Rice and then Brandon Marshall. I'm glad you posted this since it will give me some insight to the WZ Small League where I'll be drafting last.
4th actually. Running backs were going hot and heavy. Rice was my best available according to my rankings. Looking back I should have taken Doug Martin or CJ Spiller but oh well. Rice is still a very good #1 RB especially in a PPR league.

Oh and I got Marshall in the 3rd round.

Round 1 Ray Rice, RB
Round 2 Reggie Bush, RB
Round 3 Brandon Marshall, WR
Round 4 Stevan Ridley, RB
Round 5 Matthew Stafford, QB
Round 6 Torrey Smith, WR
Round 7 Mike Wallace, WR
Round 8 Darren McFadden, RB
Round 9 Brandon Myers, TE
Round 10 Greg Jennings, WR
Round 11 Texans D/ST, D/ST
Round 12 Justin Tucker, K
Round 13 Emmanuel Sanders, WR
Round 14 Vick Ballard, RB
Round 15 Rams D/ST, D/ST
Round 16 Brandon Weeden, QB

Mind you some of the people drafting in my league kind of reach. A lot. Especially with Defenses and Kickers. Forces you to draft them a lot earlier than you wanted to so you have a solid Defense at least. Fortunately for me I had already pretty much filled out my RB's and WR's and was just picking up spare parts at that point so I had no problem taking a Defense in the 11th or a Kicker in the 12 just to get them out of the way.
 
Also the Weeden pick was kind of a fun one as a friend of mine is a huge Browns fan so I drafted Weeden for him. I'm not all that mad about it. Cleveland's offense fits Weeden's abilities a lot better under Turner than it did last year.
 
The character causing arguably Dave's biggest heartbreak and tragedy and after doing fuck all besides that and even joining the bad guys he just switches sides and celebrates with the good guys like everything's okay. I'm not the only person who had a problem with this either, so yes it can be considered that.

The essence of Hit Girl is taken away by the fact that she doesn't look twelve anymore and her lines aren't very well thought out it's just gratuitous swearing for the hell of it. The fight scenes were shitty shaky cam which don't hold a candle to the first. Go watch her corridor fight in the original and try to tell me even the Mother Russia fight comes close to how good that was.

The movie tanked this weekend at the box office. This isn't sour grapes. I loved the first one and a huge fan of the series overall, this one is just one of the worst sequels ever.

Of course he switches sides. He joined the bad guys thinking that it was just going to be a chance to beat up on his old friends, but then he finds out that the bad guys are bat shit crazy murderers. And that's great that you're not the only person who has a problem with it. There are also plenty of people that think Benjamin Button is a compelling film.

The Mother Russia fight was everything it had to be and was absolutely just as good as the corridor fight. I watched those movies on back to back nights, and as far as I was concerned the action was about even between the two of them. I will admit that some of the shaky cam shots were a little annoying, but it was hardly the worst offender I've seen this year.

And the movie hardly tanked. It made $20 million dollars worldwide on a $28 million dollar budget. Considering it's not a tent poll film, I don't think the studio expected it to make its money back the first weekend. To call this one of the worst sequels ever is an absolute joke, especially with movies like Matrix Reloaded, Karate Kid 2, Teen Wolf Too... basically every movie that had a sequel from the 80s, and Speed 2.

4th actually. Running backs were going hot and heavy. Rice was my best available according to my rankings. Looking back I should have taken Doug Martin or CJ Spiller but oh well. Rice is still a very good #1 RB especially in a PPR league.

Yeah, I'd take Doug Martin over Ray Rice, though I do have a soft spot for Rice as a Jeresyan.
 
Of course he switches sides. He joined the bad guys thinking that it was just going to be a chance to beat up on his old friends, but then he finds out that the bad guys are bat shit crazy murderers. And that's great that you're not the only person who has a problem with it. There are also plenty of people that think Benjamin Button is a compelling film.

The Mother Russia fight was everything it had to be and was absolutely just as good as the corridor fight. I watched those movies on back to back nights, and as far as I was concerned the action was about even between the two of them. I will admit that some of the shaky cam shots were a little annoying, but it was hardly the worst offender I've seen this year.

And the movie hardly tanked. It made $20 million dollars worldwide on a $28 million dollar budget. Considering it's not a tent poll film, I don't think the studio expected it to make its money back the first weekend. To call this one of the worst sequels ever is an absolute joke, especially with movies like Matrix Reloaded, Karate Kid 2, Teen Wolf Too... basically every movie that had a sequel from the 80s, and Speed 2.

So he thought the bad guys were just going to smack Kick Ass around a few times after killing all those police officers and snapping Jim Carrey's neck? Bullshit, the character was underdeveloped and doesn't even truly get redeemed, he just backs away during Chris's speech and *****es out of what he somewhat causes. I can definitely see why the original actor dropped out if this is what they had planned for him.

This is turning into personal opinion and preference more than anything now. But I'll say this, shaky cam is ruining a lot of movies and this was no different. Especially considering there was some fight scenes where there was no shaky cam it makes you wonder why it was used, I personally blame the new director. I still stand by the best actors of the movie not nearly being used enough.

It came in fourth this weekend behind We're the Millers, it tanked.I didn't say it was the worst sequel, just one of them considering how awesome the first is. There is also much more things I find wrong with the film then what is listed. But I think they were backed into a corner due to things they changed in the first shame really.
 
I've tried to watch Citizen Kane a handful of times but each time I attempt to watch it I feel like I have to have my snobby-film magnifying glasses on diligently studying each pixel to see what's so acclaimed about it. I fail to finish every time and feel like I can't commit enough time to it. I'm thinking about just skipping this one; I already know the oft talked about message. I think I'll put in Jack and Jill and just be done with it. (I will not do that, for the record.)

Seen AP yet, J?
 
So he thought the bad guys were just going to smack Kick Ass around a few times after killing all those police officers and snapping Jim Carrey's neck? Bullshit, the character was underdeveloped and doesn't even truly get redeemed, he just backs away during Chris's speech and *****es out of what he somewhat causes. I can definitely see why the original actor dropped out if this is what they had planned for him.

This is turning into personal opinion and preference more than anything now. But I'll say this, shaky cam is ruining a lot of movies and this was no different. Especially considering there was some fight scenes where there was no shaky cam it makes you wonder why it was used, I personally blame the new director. I still stand by the best actors of the movie not nearly being used enough.

It came in fourth this weekend behind We're the Millers, it tanked.I didn't say it was the worst sequel, just one of them considering how awesome the first is. There is also much more things I find wrong with the film then what is listed. But I think they were backed into a corner due to things they changed in the first shame really.

You're forgetting two things about Todd. First, he didn't know the bad guys were all that bad, just that they were recruiting. Second, nobody gives a fuck if Todd gets redeemed. You know how he ended the first movie? By not making out with a girl. I'd say he did pretty alright for himself in the second.

Oh, it's coming down to personal preference now? It's no longer an awful film that is, by your estimation, garbage? Why the change of heart? Realize you don't have a leg to stand on here?

The truth of the matter is that it's a perfectly fine film. It has a few good action scenes, entertaining comedy, a few cool characters, and it's a fun comic book movie. To say the director did a bad job just shows how little you actually looked into the film, as I thought he did a fantastic job. Almost every shot basically looked like a moving comic book panel, which is very similar to what Zack Snyder did (or tried to do depending on who you ask) with 300, which was a really fresh take on comic book movies. Instead of trying to make a movie like The Wolverine or Man of Steel where it's a comic book character placed in a movie, Kick-Ass 2 is a comic book made into a movie.

Furthermore, the film (and probably the comic, though I can't attest to that at this time) is clearly a post modern satire of super hero and comic book tropes. It's a satire that certainly benefits from the tropes that it makes fun of, but the same can be said of Austin Powers or Blazing Saddles or any film that parodies a certain genre.

Basically it seems obvious to me that you were predisposed to dislike this film, and you wound up disliking this film. Instead of looking for the positives you looked for the negatives, and while you may have found plenty of them, you still missed the plethora of positives the film delivered.

And it did not tank because it finished 4th (and really, it tied for 3rd more than anything). You don't measure the financial success of a film by what place it's in, you measure it by how much money it made. It made $20 mil on a $28 mil budget. That's pretty good. It should be able to turn a profit after about a month in theaters.
 
I've tried to watch Citizen Kane a handful of times but each time I attempt to watch it I feel like I have to have my snobby-film magnifying glasses on diligently studying each pixel to see what's so acclaimed about it. I fail to finish every time and feel like I can't commit enough time to it.

Thats because its like, nine hours long.
 
I've tried to watch Citizen Kane a handful of times but each time I attempt to watch it I feel like I have to have my snobby-film magnifying glasses on diligently studying each pixel to see what's so acclaimed about it. I fail to finish every time and feel like I can't commit enough time to it. I'm thinking about just skipping this one; I already know the oft talked about message. I think I'll put in Jack and Jill and just be done with it. (I will not do that, for the record.)

Seen AP yet, J?

A lot of the stuff Citizen Kane does isn't really something you'd notice until it's pointed out to you. For instance, the use of distance is one of the really great parts of the photography of the film. Two scenes where this is apparent is early in the movie when Kane is playing outside on his sled and his parents are inside the house selling him to that guy and later in the movie when he's sitting in his hallway in Xanadu while his wife puts together a jigsaw puzzle.

I'd recommend reading up on Citizen Kane online first and then watching the film. It's definitely a film that gives you a richer experience when you know what to look for.

And I haven't watch AP yet, I'm sorry. I've been pretty busy the past month and I haven't gotten around to knocking many movies off of my watch list. I'm moving into a new place in September and I'll be living with one of my cinephile friends, so I'm sure we'll watch plenty of movies then, and I'll try to make sure AP is on the list of movies we watch early.

Thats because its like, nine hours long.

It's actually only 2 hours long, it just feels longer because of all the jumping back and forth. That shit tends to make movies feel stretched out. The same thing is true of The Usual Suspects and Memento.
 
I'd recommend reading up on Citizen Kane online first and then watching the film. It's definitely a film that gives you a richer experience when you know what to look for.

That's the thing. I'm sure it's a technical cinematic masterpiece, but I feel like I can't focus on watching it enough to give it justice. I just don't have the time, and when I do, I need to use my calories on other things more productive than being a movie elitist. (I have nothing against self-professed movie aficionados but I have other things to do.)

I need to kick some things off my agenda and get to it I guess. One day.
 
You're forgetting two things about Todd. First, he didn't know the bad guys were all that bad, just that they were recruiting. Second, nobody gives a fuck if Todd gets redeemed. You know how he ended the first movie? By not making out with a girl. I'd say he did pretty alright for himself in the second.

Oh, it's coming down to personal preference now? It's no longer an awful film that is, by your estimation, garbage? Why the change of heart? Realize you don't have a leg to stand on here?

The truth of the matter is that it's a perfectly fine film. It has a few good action scenes, entertaining comedy, a few cool characters, and it's a fun comic book movie. To say the director did a bad job just shows how little you actually looked into the film, as I thought he did a fantastic job. Almost every shot basically looked like a moving comic book panel, which is very similar to what Zack Snyder did (or tried to do depending on who you ask) with 300, which was a really fresh take on comic book movies. Instead of trying to make a movie like The Wolverine or Man of Steel where it's a comic book character placed in a movie, Kick-Ass 2 is a comic book made into a movie.

Furthermore, the film (and probably the comic, though I can't attest to that at this time) is clearly a post modern satire of super hero and comic book tropes. It's a satire that certainly benefits from the tropes that it makes fun of, but the same can be said of Austin Powers or Blazing Saddles or any film that parodies a certain genre.

Basically it seems obvious to me that you were predisposed to dislike this film, and you wound up disliking this film. Instead of looking for the positives you looked for the negatives, and while you may have found plenty of them, you still missed the plethora of positives the film delivered.

And it did not tank because it finished 4th (and really, it tied for 3rd more than anything). You don't measure the financial success of a film by what place it's in, you measure it by how much money it made. It made $20 mil on a $28 mil budget. That's pretty good. It should be able to turn a profit after about a month in theaters.

I don't care if Todd gets redeemed, I care that he doesn't get punished nor does anyone address that he caused the biggest tragedy in the fucking movie. And there's no way he couldn't have known what they were doing, especially after all the killing and attacking/borderline raping of Night Bitch.

The personal preference was fighting, we weren't arguing facts there. The movie is still very much so garbage and I'm now convinced more than anything most like any argument you like it and since I don't you must defend it. It's nothing surprising considering that's what almost everyone does but it still doesn't make you any less wrong. I could give less of a fuck what shots you want your fighting to be filmed in, it's why I said what I said.

Actually the comic is much more realistic and less satirical than the movie. The first movie gives itself a much more optimistic ending to a bit more gloomy world, while still however being funny. It's also pretty obvious it's suppose to be funny parody, I don't see where your getting this from anyway. Nobody went into this movie expecting Batman level intensity or drama. We just didn't want it to suck.

Like I keep saying I like the series overall, if I wasn't I wouldn't be reading it as much as I have. I went into the movie already in love with it after watching the original, hell I even said in this thread before I saw it I couldn't wait. You want positives? Chris was still enjoyable, Javier was pretty damn good too, Chloe was pretty attractive looking even though it killed the essence of Hit Girl, Jim Carrey had an amazing role, and Donald Faison was in something I like that's not Scrubs. But like I said the best parts were not the majority.

Opening weekend is a sign of how the movie will progressively do as time goes on. Meaning it will just get lower, it will get a third film to end the trilogy as I want it to so it makes up for this mistake.
 
I don't care if Todd gets redeemed, I care that he doesn't get punished nor does anyone address that he caused the biggest tragedy in the fucking movie. And there's no way he couldn't have known what they were doing, especially after all the killing and attacking/borderline raping of Night Bitch.

The personal preference was fighting, we weren't arguing facts there. The movie is still very much so garbage and I'm now convinced more than anything most like any argument you like it and since I don't you must defend it. It's nothing surprising considering that's what almost everyone does but it still doesn't make you any less wrong. I could give less of a fuck what shots you want your fighting to be filmed in, it's why I said what I said.

Actually the comic is much more realistic and less satirical than the movie. The first movie gives itself a much more optimistic ending to a bit more gloomy world, while still however being funny. It's also pretty obvious it's suppose to be funny parody, I don't see where your getting this from anyway. Nobody went into this movie expecting Batman level intensity or drama. We just didn't want it to suck.

Like I keep saying I like the series overall, if I wasn't I wouldn't be reading it as much as I have. I went into the movie already in love with it after watching the original, hell I even said in this thread before I saw it I couldn't wait. You want positives? Chris was still enjoyable, Javier was pretty damn good too, Chloe was pretty attractive looking even though it killed the essence of Hit Girl, Jim Carrey had an amazing role, and Donald Faison was in something I like that's not Scrubs. But like I said the best parts were not the majority.

Opening weekend is a sign of how the movie will progressively do as time goes on. Meaning it will just get lower, it will get a third film to end the trilogy as I want it to so it makes up for this mistake.

He doesn't get punished because the bad guy did. He may have pointed Motherfucker in the right direction, but he didn't know that Motherfucker was going to kill Dave's dad.

If you can't give a fuck about how a movie is shot, then you're not really qualified to call something garbage or not, now can you? I don't know why you're so dead set on saying this movie sucks when I'm given you several reasons why it's not, and all you can come up with in return is basically, "I don't care about that stuff." Man up and admit that you just didn't get it.

I'm well aware of how the box office works. It's a shame you're not.
 
He doesn't get punished because the bad guy did. He may have pointed Motherfucker in the right direction, but he didn't know that Motherfucker was going to kill Dave's dad.

If you can't give a fuck about how a movie is shot, then you're not really qualified to call something garbage or not, now can you? I don't know why you're so dead set on saying this movie sucks when I'm given you several reasons why it's not, and all you can come up with in return is basically, "I don't care about that stuff." Man up and admit that you just didn't get it.

I'm well aware of how the box office works. It's a shame you're not.

Because accomplices to murder should just go scott free and well off right?

Stop changing things around, I said I don't give a fuck how you want the movie to be shot. I don't want shaky cam, you obviously seem content with it's awful view. You seem to not be reading anything since you avoid all of other other criticism's besides me legitimately not caring about the most insignificant thing you said. Basically you changed the entire conversation to the thing that like I said isn't fact, and just what you care about, that's obviously not what I care about, hence why it doesn't matter and you're dead set on arguing about it.

I'd appreciate it if you'd just tell me what you liked so you can stop tip toeing around what I'm saying. This would go much faster that way.
 
Because accomplices to murder should just go scott free and well off right?

Stop changing things around, I said I don't give a fuck how you want the movie to be shot. I don't want shaky cam, you obviously seem content with it's awful view. You seem to not be reading anything since you avoid all of other other criticism's besides me legitimately not caring about the most insignificant thing you said. Basically you changed the entire conversation to the thing that like I said isn't fact, and just what you care about, that's obviously not what I care about, hence why it doesn't matter and you're dead set on arguing about it.

I'd appreciate it if you'd just tell me what you liked so you can stop tip toeing around what I'm saying. This would go much faster that way.

Telling someone who someone is is hardly being an accomplice to murder. If somebody wanted to know who a certain lawyer was and you gave them the address of where the lawyer was not knowing they were going to kill him, that wouldn't make you an accomplice.

And I've told you what I liked. I loved the way the movie was shot so that it looked like a comic book with moving panels. I loved the way they parodied certain superhero and comic book tropes. I loved the fight scenes and the very superheroesque lines they dropped. To add a few more things, I loved the colors and that they tried to make each scene rich and vibrant as opposed to dark and gray. I loved that the coolest character in the movie was a 16 year old girl and that she made hardened criminals look like a bunch of chumps. I loved that they put together a delightfully corny team with the delightfully corny name Justice Forever. I loved that this is a world where cops don't seem to play any sort of role and that just about anybody can be a superhero or super villain. I love that they did a great job developing The Motherfucker's character. I love that the final scene in the movie was a gigantic clash between a team of good guys and a team of bad guys. And above all else, I loved that they made these really despicable, detestable bad guys, and then there was an actual payoff when you got to see heroes like Hit Girl and Kick-Ass dispose of them in awesome ways.

I'm honestly shocked how many people disliked this movie. There was a lot to love about it.
 
Telling someone who someone is is hardly being an accomplice to murder. If somebody wanted to know who a certain lawyer was and you gave them the address of where the lawyer was not knowing they were going to kill him, that wouldn't make you an accomplice.

And I've told you what I liked. I loved the way the movie was shot so that it looked like a comic book with moving panels. I loved the way they parodied certain superhero and comic book tropes. I loved the fight scenes and the very superheroesque lines they dropped. To add a few more things, I loved the colors and that they tried to make each scene rich and vibrant as opposed to dark and gray. I loved that the coolest character in the movie was a 16 year old girl and that she made hardened criminals look like a bunch of chumps. I loved that they put together a delightfully corny team with the delightfully corny name Justice Forever. I loved that this is a world where cops don't seem to play any sort of role and that just about anybody can be a superhero or super villain. I love that they did a great job developing The Motherfucker's character. I love that the final scene in the movie was a gigantic clash between a team of good guys and a team of bad guys. And above all else, I loved that they made these really despicable, detestable bad guys, and then there was an actual payoff when you got to see heroes like Hit Girl and Kick-Ass dispose of them in awesome ways.

I'm honestly shocked how many people disliked this movie. There was a lot to love about it.

Yes and everything you liked were things that were done better in the previous film. The character specific color schemes and and symbols were better done there mostly because the characters were better there. I liked the inclusion of the new heroes it's really just a shame that none of them save for Jim Carrey and Donald Faison are even good or memorable. The names were worth a chuckle at first though. The main character of the movie is indeed Hit Girl but her performance is watered down due to nonsensical swearing just for the shock value that it's coming from the mouth of a girl. The only baddie who was despicable was The Motherfucker, like I said no new character had any development what so ever. I mean it's not like Mother Russia needed any, but I'm just saying either the new characters were given nothing or the old characters somehow got worse, save for Chris (because I'm not typing out Motherfucker every time I reference him) glad he didn't die and he'll somehow be back in the third. Everything in the movie just took a back seat to sub-par shitty insults.

It just wasn't good man, I hate to really say it especially considering how much I argued with people pre-release about how it was going to be great. But if you love this movie I'm sure you'll love X-Force as the same guy is making that too within the next couple of years.
 
Yes and everything you liked were things that were done better in the previous film. The character specific color schemes and and symbols were better done there mostly because the characters were better there. I liked the inclusion of the new heroes it's really just a shame that none of them save for Jim Carrey and Donald Faison are even good or memorable. The names were worth a chuckle at first though. The main character of the movie is indeed Hit Girl but her performance is watered down due to nonsensical swearing just for the shock value that it's coming from the mouth of a girl. The only baddie who was despicable was The Motherfucker, like I said no new character had any development what so ever. I mean it's not like Mother Russia needed any, but I'm just saying either the new characters were given nothing or the old characters somehow got worse, save for Chris (because I'm not typing out Motherfucker every time I reference him) glad he didn't die and he'll somehow be back in the third. Everything in the movie just took a back seat to sub-par shitty insults.

It just wasn't good man, I hate to really say it especially considering how much I argued with people pre-release about how it was going to be great. But if you love this movie I'm sure you'll love X-Force as the same guy is making that too within the next couple of years.

How can you say Motherfucker's sidekicks weren't despicable? Mother Russia killed 10 cops, Captain Stars and Stripes, and threatened to kill Eisenhower. The Tumor helped The Motherfucker attempt to rape Nightbitch. The mugger that Hit Girl cut the hand off of was a bully and a homophobe. They all met pretty satisfying deaths/maimings as far as I'm concerned.

And I don't know what you're talking about with the other hero's not being memorable, and you seem to be equating recognizable faces with memorability. Billy's parents were a funny but touching duo. Insect Man had a pretty touching back story and I liked his explanation for why he didn't wear a mask.

And I disagree that the previous film did all of the things I mentioned better. I thought Kick-Ass 2 had much better cinematography and was more in touch with what it was trying to be in general.

I don't think Kick-Ass 2 deserves an Oscar or anything, but it was a very enjoyable movie if you were looking for the good stuff.
 
How can you say Motherfucker's sidekicks weren't despicable? Mother Russia killed 10 cops, Captain Stars and Stripes, and threatened to kill Eisenhower. The Tumor helped The Motherfucker attempt to rape Nightbitch. The mugger that Hit Girl cut the hand off of was a bully and a homophobe. They all met pretty satisfying deaths/maimings as far as I'm concerned.

And I don't know what you're talking about with the other hero's not being memorable, and you seem to be equating recognizable faces with memorability. Billy's parents were a funny but touching duo. Insect Man had a pretty touching back story and I liked his explanation for why he didn't wear a mask.

And I disagree that the previous film did all of the things I mentioned better. I thought Kick-Ass 2 had much better cinematography and was more in touch with what it was trying to be in general.

I don't think Kick-Ass 2 deserves an Oscar or anything, but it was a very enjoyable movie if you were looking for the good stuff.

Maybe it's because I'm desensitized or watch too much movies like this I just didn't find Mother Russia killing them to be all that evil. Yeah killing Colonel made me sad so I guess there's that. I couldn't take the Tumor seriously considering that whole rape attempt scene seemingly was made for comedy purposes than actual disturbing stuff like in the book. I'll stop referencing it but that entire scene along with some other stuff was a hot topic about whether or not it would be in the movie. And Black Death and Ghengis Carnage were pretty underdeveloped.

I enjoyed Billy's parents in the final battle but that's about it. I guess I would have sympathized more with them had a they went more into detail like a certain...um...novel. Insect man was okay, I've been taught to not treat people different because their homosexuals, so he gets classified with the rest of generally tame characters.

I feel the previous film knew what they wanted to do better because they focused on four core characters. Kick Ass, Big Daddy, Hit Girl, Red Mist/Chris. Here things had to be more spread out, which is where problems occurred.

You can have the last post dissecting what I said, I'd rather not think about the film anymore.
 

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