justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
The Fandango/Jericho match doesn't strike as a match that's gonna get much more than 10 mins.
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Hyorinmaru
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I disagree entirely. Jericho is absolutely in that league and has done nothing but prove it since his return. Punk and Bryan have looked better in the ring with him than either does on a regular basis and they're two of the best wrestlers in the company. Swagger hasn't looked as good as he has in the Jericho matches since he last worked with Christian. Miz and Barrett should be thanking their lucky stars for that triple threat. And as sloppy as you might have found Monday night to be, SummerSlam last year was one hell of an opener. And that's discounting everything Jericho's done over the years for small fries like Evan Bourne, who people only ever cared about when he came in contact with Jericho's ilk. He's as good as it gets in the WWE and is up there with Cena, Punk, Bryan, and so forth.
Of course if this is going to become a John Cena aggrandizement session, I'll show myself the door.
At least we have the Raw rematch to look forward to.
Thriller Ant
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Yeah, I'm worried that they are going to use the "big name wins on PPV, lesser guy on the next Raw" booking that gets used way too often, especially if the point is to get Fandango (or whomever) over.
Thriller Ant
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Did you make your reservations yet?
Did you make your reservations yet?
Am I meant to believe that a win at Mania gets Fandango more over? As though a win at SummerSlam would have gotten Ziggler more over?
Because I don't look at wins and losses that way.
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How do you look at wins and losses?
They tend to be far, far less significant than consistent exposure on television in interesting angles. With rare exceptions, most wins and losses means sweet fuck all unless an angle is being made out of it.
As smarks, we care more than we ought to.
I've always seen Jericho as the guy they use to put over the talent they don't want to waste Cena, Punk, Orton, Taker, etc. on. That could be due to his status as a part-timer, but I think it more has to do with the fact that he's simply not as good at it as the top tier. Is he at the top of the second tier? Absolutely, but for me that doesn't make him eligible for the, "Oh Jericho is going to make him look like gold," statements.
Miz, Barrett, Fandango, Bourne, 2012 Ziggler... all of these are guys that aren't/weren't qualified enough to warrant the use of one of WWE's top names. A match with Jericho can help you get your foot in the door, a match with CM Punk can help you break it down.
As for mentioning CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, it's hard to credit Jericho for making them more credible. Both men had already put on tremendous matches with numerous other opponents in the WWE before they started working with Jericho. Of course they look better with Jericho than they do on an everyday basis, but that's because on an everyday basis they're fighting the Cody Rhodes and Rybacks of the roster: guys that are good, but still missing something. You could make the same argument for Christian and Randy Orton.
We all know how great John Cena is, we don't need to go into it any further.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
The thing that actually gives Cena some claim to being the greatest WWE has right now is something his fans will never really understand.
On jericho, Maybe it is just tournament comments that are too fresh but I really don't understand why the IWC likes to disrespect guys that are willing to put over someone beneath themself.
On jericho, Maybe it is just tournament comments that are too fresh but I really don't understand why the IWC likes to disrespect guys that are willing to put over someone beneath themself.
Now you're just being silly. I thought when I mentioned Bryan that it was abundantly clear I was talking about the top tier in terms of ring skills, not who's where on the card. You seem to be mixing the two.
Jericho, Bryan, and Rey may be a bit further down the foot chain than the tippy-top guys in the industry, but as performers they're absolutely top tier.
A match with both guys can help you deliver a comparably good performance that viewers will give a shit about.
Once again, this isn't about who's where on the card. And that seems to be what you're getting bogged down in.
So you're saying Jericho is among the best in the WWE? Good. Glad we're on the same page.
Especially when most of them are going to use their next breath to shit on Cena for hogging the limelight or some such nonsense.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
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Hopefully it's much much better than Orgins (which really shouldn't take much)
Hopefully it's much much better than Orgins (which really shouldn't take much)
I'm talking about ring ability as well. Jericho is a step below those other guys.
Disagree on Jericho and Rey (he's really lost a step since his return), but agree with Bryan. Jericho and Rey just don't have what it takes to make the young guys look like "gold" anymore. Silver, sure. Maybe even some obscure metal in between gold and silver I'm not familiar with, but not gold.
Look man, if you want to talk about comparably good performances, then yeah, Jericho is within the same ball park as guys like Cena, Orton, Punk, and Bryan, but he's in the outfield while the rest of those names are standing at home plate.
If I'm going to nitpick, I'm going to nitpick. Once again, I remind you, I like Jericho plenty and I'm very happy that I'll get to see him live before he retires. I just don't think he's on the same level anymore as the top ring performers in the WWE.
I don't know what's given you that idea aside from the fact that the top of the card happens to be populated with some of the best wrestlers in the WWE today.
Among them, sure, but if I'm going to use the baseball metaphor, I'm putting him towards the end of my batting order.
You ranked Undertaker's in-ring ability. In 2013. Jesus.
That's all well and good, but you ranked Taker as a great in-ring performer in 2013.
And yet when I think about the best matches that have taken place on weekly WWE television since the Rumble, Jericho is in all but one of those matches.
Doesn't make your taste any less suspect.
Thank goodness you're just some jerk with a keyboard. Thank fucking goodness.
Fair enough, I suppose he should have been left off the list. He hasn't really done much putting over since he became a part-timer, now has he?
Quite the sample size you're picking from there.
Your disapproval means the world to me. At this point I'm more worried about Sam coming in here and castrating me for saying something bad about Rey Mysterio.
Richard Blonoff
Make America Rassle Again
Days of Future Past is going to be the main plot of one of the upcoming X-Men related movies. I am excite.
ÐаÑбоÑа
doesn't know REAL wrestling...
As exciting as the rumours about World War Hulk being in the future of the Avengers?
Richard Blonoff
Make America Rassle Again
Барбоса;4392171 said:
Not nearly as exciting, but with the next X-Men film scheduled for 2014 and the next Hulk film not taking place until after Avengers 2, I can put off my Hulk excitement.
ÐаÑбоÑа
doesn't know REAL wrestling...
Yeah, if we are to get World War Hulk, it would probably not be for at least another 5 years.
I would also be wary of Marvel going overboard with Hulk. He needs to be treated as the comic aside he was in Avengers or not appear at all. Then at the end of Avengers 2, Banner loses control completely (maybe with the death of someone he cares about), leading to Hulk being sent into space (probably by Stark and SHIELD rather than the Illuminati). Then Hulk gets a stand alone movie in Planet Hulk and returns for World War Hulk in Avengers 3 (timeline stolen from Empire Magazine, April 2013 ed.)
That's the post I was expecting to see this morning as well. Surely Sam was as impressed with the Rey/Cara partnership as I was, no?
And I apologize for arguing about taste. This place ought to be better than that.
Thriller Ant
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I don't necessarily buy into that either, but that's what the writers want us to believe.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Yeah, that Planet Hulk/WWH stuff probably isn't happening, at least not while Marvel has Ruffalo signed to a 6 picture deal. The problem seems to be due to the fact that Banner is rarely ever feature in either of those stories, & Marvel wants a story where they can showcase Ruffalo as Banner more.
I've heard talk about that ever since the last one came out, but that is indeed exciting news, especially if it means we get to see a little bit of Cable! The Days of Future Past storyline is one of my all time favorites, though.
Барбоса;4392171 said:
More, but that could have something to do with my love for dystopian films, or dystopian stories in general.
That was fun while it lasted, and I don't know what happened, but it brought out the best in Sin Cara.
It's okay, it was late and tensions were high. Who wouldn't accuse somebody of having poor taste under those conditions?
Not only that, but setting up World War Hulk and then executing it would require it to be about 4 hours long. The beauty of The Avengers was that the villain took almost no time to set up. "This is a bad guy, and now his alien army is attacking the city." World War Hulk is a pretty complex storyline.
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