CM Punk WINS The WWE Championship!!! Cena fired???

[kizarny]

Just decided to throw my 2 cents in. like everyone has been saying, punk has been GREAT. I am a sporadic Raw viewer, but i can easily say that the latest month has been the most entertaining in a long time because of him. This is the first ppv I can remember where every Raw leading up to it has been a must see show. Money in the Bank feels like not only the biggest event of 2011, but the biggest ppv in the last couple years off the top of my head. If Punk does end up staying and doesn't end up booked as the top heel in the wwe I will be more than shocked.

- also my prediction is that cm punk will get a shocking win, but get the MITB cashed in on him. If you listened closely to the raw where vince made the threat to cena, he stated "If punk walks out of chicago with the belt" not "if punk wins" so cena will lose but the belt will not leave chicago saving his job.

 

[XXJJ]

Yeah I agree with Kizarny, thats what I think is going to happen too. Punk beats Cena and MITB winner will beat Punk. It will probably be a heel too. Maybe someone like Del Rio or Miz..That wrestler will draw a lot of heat from the chicago fans for doing that.

 

[sheldonator90]

I think Punk is staying, but only in contract for the time being. WWE have hit a goldmine with this story and they aren't about to let their top draw go. I belive he'll stay, sign a new contract, but in the contract there will be a break included for Punk, god knows the guy works his ass off for them, he's earned a break, but with the whole WM thing, I reckon he'll try to 'one up' the Cena/Rock match and try to end the streak of the Undertaker.

 

[RattleRockerJet97]

Im loving this storyline so much, i dont want it to end before it really begins to take off. Personally- I hope CM Punk beats Cena, we celebrate and when it comes down to it, probably Del Rio comes down to the ring. Some how Cena just AA's him or something and Punk hits the GTS, 1.2.3. Punk leaves.

Why are they gonna screw Punk over, im sure he signed a contract by now. I can understand it if CM Punk is taking time off, but if he isnt then....I dont want to see him lose the title in the same night. To then have Del Rio have a subpar same old fued with Cena.

You know what, i want to see the MITB cash in tomorrow......and lose. Thats all thats keeping me from going crazy.

 

[amodernphoenix]

In my unqualified opinion, it feels as if they are posturing for CM Punk to win the title and 'leave' Sunday, only to come back on Monday as the anonomous RAW GM. I've had the impression that he genuinely was going to leave and they were able to convince him to stay in the GM gig.

It ties everything up in a neat bundle. They can say that McMahon figured since his contract was out tomorrow, he was gone from both roles. Remember, McMahon hired the RAW GM. Punk can say that only his wrestling contract expired, not for his role as GM. It would also be a way of replacing the 'God-awful' belt, as Punk labeled it.

Think back to the way the RAW GM controlled Nexus, backing them from the beginning. Think about the things he's proclaimed since the beginning. It could all be made to fit with Punk. AND if you pay close attention to all the talk from WWE and Jim Ross, they talk about Sunday being the last time he 'wrestles' in WWE.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

No because they they'd have to go about explaining why they lied saying there was already a set GM, which there has been since just about a year ago, which would include questions like why CM Punk was GM while he was on Smackdown and why did he make decisions against himself e.g. four weeks ago when he demanded to be the new number one contendor but was instead forced to compete in a match to earn it despite beating the WWE Champion the week before.

It would make no sense, there would be too many questions; half of which the WWE wouldn't have explanations for and the whole thing would undoutedly blow back in their faces, therefore, it would be a poor decision.

 

[The Future Rises]

Remember Punk's.. "snow angles".. segment? How can he be the RAW anonymous GM when the two had an argument which resulted in the GM putting Punk in a triple threat match to earn a shot at Cena when Punk pissed him off? I don't think the WWE would be stupid enough to forget about that segment and actually pull the trigger on your little opinion.

 

[berlinbrawler]

CM Punk the anonymous RAW GM?

Wouldn't make a lot of sense, now would it? He was at odds with that Laptop too often for it to make any sense. Looking at all that footage would make him look seriously schizo.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Punk wants a gig where can can wrestle. He's not leaving the WWE because he's tired of wrestling. He's tired of all the BS surrounding the wrestling. The GM gig wouldn't do him any favors.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Ever since he made his way into WWE...all he ever really needed was the opportunity to be special. Once he went heel & started the SES...I think there was a huuuge chance for him & SES to shine. But I have the feeling that: what Punk probably wanted to do with SES, would have went beyond the PG boundries. As was said above me- If the SES started in the Attitude Era or something just after- SES woulda been fantastic IMO. The Nation of Domination + Right to Censor on steriods! The Messiah and his nation of followers.

I dont think Punk was ever given "the rope" that he's finally been given the last month or so. This "rope" or opportunity he has been given since becoming the #1 contender, has been what he should have been given long ago. But it took til now, because his contract was nearing its end & he was threatening to leave. So VKM is tryin to give him what he wants to keep him.

I also think Punk has signed a new contract already. I've never seen VKM actually push someone, knowing they were going to be leaving the company. It happend with Jeff Hardy- but I dont think VKM ever thought Jeff would leave. And he was burnt for it. Well- for a hot minute he may have thought he got burnt. But most of us knew Hardy was one bad night away from a prison stint anyway. Now look at him...

Back to my point: When wrestlers contracts are coming up, or VKM knows they'll be leaving the company in one way or another...he doesnt push these people. He buries the shit out of them, on their way out. So thier star-power is as tiny as possible once they are gone, and possibly heading to another organization (TNA). I dont think there's any way VKM would be using Punk the way he's using him, if Punk was really "leaving WWE" after MITB. Now- could Punk end up taking some time off directly following MITB? Sure- I think thats possible. But I also think that would be something written into his brand new multi million dollar contract.

Thanks for the time. Hopefully I didnt go too long on my 1st post. I'll talk about Punks newest faction including Cabana, Hero, Castagnoli & Black at another time.

PS: Thinking Cena's turn is going down Vvery soon!

 

[Alastor]

I am glad I caught onto the CM Punk contract signing segment during Superstars while I was channel surfing. The speech about Cena not realizing that he has no right to claim to be the underdog was awesome. I laughed out loud when Punk said getting Vince to apologize was better than being a 3 time champion. The segment got me interested in watching WWE again after giving it a miss for the last few months. I have no clue what other stuff is happening now but I will be following WWE for the next few weeks to see the fallout of the PPV. For what's its worth CM Punk got one lost viewer back in me.

 

[disturbedbob]

OK, lets start by saying this is never going to happen, but in an ideal world it would. It may seem outlandish but there is a pay off....a huge one. Punk stays and becomes the next big star.

OK, so I suppose we start with Sundays title match at MITB. For Punk to be pushed to the moon the following MUST occur.

1/ Punk beats Cena despite VKM and HHH interfering, and he beats him clean.

2/ The RAW MITB winner (most likely Del Rio or Miz) cashes in on Punk, but Punk wins and retains the title.

3/ The SD MITB winner (most likely Seamus or Barrett) cashes in on Punk, and Punk wins that too.

Thats 3 title matches in one night, as far as I'm aware this has never been done before. It does blow off the whole MITB concept but remember the pay off.

Big ratings spike for RAW on Monday. First segment Vince fires Cena. Vince announces that talks are still ongoing with the new WWE champ CM Punk. Last segment, Punks music hits. He calls out Vince. Punk tells Vince 'I will come back only if this time we play by my rules, cause right now I hold the power, so that makes me the BOSS.' Or words to that effect. Punk goes on a rant about how he could do this or could make Vince do that, and if Vince chooses not to then Punk is gonna walk away with the title, but right now I think its time for VKM to pucker up and join the CM Punk Kiss My Ass fanclub. After much deliberation Vince does it. Punk with a big smile on his face says 'See you next week Vince.'

Next RAW Punks demands are that Vince bring the Raw GM to the middle of the ring so the Universe finally knows who it is and then Punk wants Vince to fire them. This could lead to Stephanie or HHH being revealed as RAW GM. Vince cant do it. Punk says 'Don't forget Vince, if you don't appease me, then I'll walk.' Vince reluctantly issues the immortal words 'YOU'RE FIRED!!!.' to Steph or HHH.

Next RAW Punk says to Vince how its a bit strange not having a GM on Raw and its time to bring in a man who is capable of managing a show like RAW, a man who's credentials are way above anyone elses, a man who knows the true meaning of the word 'wrestling' a man like (Punk goes to point at himself and then points to the entrance ramp) 'this man'. It's PAUL HEYMAN!!!! Vince again reluctantly agrees or Punk will walk.

Next RAW Heymans new position allows him to negotiate with new talent. This leads to Punk telling Vince that he has a few friends who need contracts. Of course we just need VKM's signature. Punk will talk about how all these guys can actually wrestle, unlike some of the talent Vince has signed in the past (reels off a few names from the past). Vince signs the contract after deliberating over the amount he has to pay them and Punk saying he will walk (can u see where this is going?). Punk reveals that WWE has just signed Tyler Black, The Kings of Wrestling and his good friend Colt Cabana.

This can go on for as long as it doesn't get stale, which it won't because of Punk and Heyman's mic skills. Punk could ask for Cole to be fired from RAW (he can work SD) and for JR to be re-instated in the commentary booth (or table). Heyman can make matches that people want to see. Punk will be the crusader to rid the WWE of corporate BS. Wrestling will be the winner and fans will flock to watch an edgier product (even if it remains PG format) You can have Vince bring back Rock, Austin, Taker, HHH, HBK whoever to buck the trend and kill the idea before it gets too convoluted. It would be must watch TV on a weekly basis and could easily have legs till the Rumble. It would be like a subversive Mcmahon/Helmsley era)

I will repeat, this is not going to happen and is completely pie in the sky.

Do you agree? If not, how would you push Punk to the moon?

 

[VinnieSunshine]

Um...whats the point of this?

If none of this could happen then WHY bring it up? I dont understand how people can try to be bookers here and write storylines that dont work.

Heyman WILL NOT come back to WWE, they WILL NOT trash their own company for the stars they have (its demeaning to the company and the wrestlers), and they WILL NOT drag this out very long. Not to mention blow 2 MITB chances in a night. The MITB concept is to build NEW STARS for the main event...like Punk and Miz in the past.

PLEASE people...can we come up with REAL scenarios for all this to play out?

 

[imnotjesus]

I dig what you're saying Disturbedbob.... and despite what vinniesunshine says, i think can work... if Vince was willing to bring back the nWo, then Paul Hayman is nothing.

CM Punk has what it takes to be the biggest thing in this company and is already on his way there. He has it all.

Your plot Bob could also lead to a monster CMPUNK vs HHH at Mania next year, which ultimately is what Vince is aiming for (making it huge and start the build up now hence rock/cena).

This storyline has been big so far, so big Vince even brought himself back for it... and you know when he does that, its leading to bigger things.

Yes signs are pointing to the normal Punk beats Cena but DelRio cashes in on MITB and saves the title spurred on my vinniemac. But I'd like to see Bob's storyline pan out because its the most entertaining, its what will draw a large audience and I agree can continue till Rumble 2012.

INJ

The MITB lineups for this PPV in comparison with all the other MITB matches is weak... on the basis that no one really stands out or deserves an immediate push (cody, cara, bryan, riley etc all need bigger midtable feuds/IC title feuds). Del Rio is really already no1 contender and people like Mysterio, Sheamus, Kane, etc have been champions and dont need a push.

So, based on that IF vince was thinking about pushing punk in one night (like he did with jericho at a similar stage of his career by beating rock/austin in one night), tonight would be idea... winning 3 championship matches in one night.

 

[The Calgary Kid]

Since this pops up in practically every thread and every other post therein, the Raw MITB winner earns a shot at the WWE Championship and the SD winner earns a shot at the WHC. This is non-negotiable, so two people cashing in on Punk will not happen, nor will hypothetical situations such as Miz or Del Rio cashing in on Orton or Christian. The case that used to be won at 'Mania was for a shot at a world title, which meant either one. The reason why there are two cases to be won at the MITB PPV is because the matches are branded.

 

[bryann380]

I'm seeing some people predict the MITB winner will cash in the briefcase after Punk vs Cena. However, for some reason, I strongly think the MITB winner will cash in -during- their match, most likely when both guys are down and hurt. He easily beats Cena to win the title, then Punk beats Cena sometime afterwards. Since the title is no longer at stake since the MITB winner now has it, Cena will not get fired.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I'm seeing some people predict the MITB winner will cash in the briefcase after Punk vs Cena. However, for some reason, I strongly think the MITB winner will cash in -during- their match, most likely when both guys are down and hurt. He easily beats Cena to win the title, then Punk beats Cena sometime afterwards. Since the title is no longer at stake since the MITB winner now has it, Cena will not get fired.

Why would Punk pin Cena afterwards if 1) the match is over once the MITB guy pins whoever) and 2) it's no longer for the title? That's Punk's whole motivation.

 

[VinnieSunshine]

I dig what you're saying Disturbedbob.... and despite what vinniesunshine says, i think can work... if Vince was willing to bring back the nWo, then Paul Hayman is nothing.

Paul Heyman has said in multiple interviews that working for WWE was very stressful and he does not want to do it again. ALL ideas have to go through various people including Stephanie and Vince.

Plus he said he is happy with where he is at, and thats with Brock Lesnar and promoting him and UFC (though he doesn't work for UFC to my knowledge).

I'm seeing some people predict the MITB winner will cash in the briefcase after Punk vs Cena. However, for some reason, I strongly think the MITB winner will cash in -during- their match, most likely when both guys are down and hurt. He easily beats Cena to win the title, then Punk beats Cena sometime afterwards. Since the title is no longer at stake since the MITB winner now has it, Cena will not get fired.

The winner of the MITB CAN NOT cash in during a title match.

1) It would make no sense
2) Why would you cash in and have a HIGHER risk of not winning the title anyway?

 

[bryann380]

The winner of the MITB CAN NOT cash in during a title match.

Oh yes he can. It can be cashed in anytime, anywhere for up to one year. From Wikipedia's page on MITB, it says "The contract is valid for one year, and the briefcase holder—dubbed "Mr. Money in the Bank"—can appear on any program and cash in the contract at the date, place, and time of their choosing."

I'm calling it right now. Del Rio cashes in during the match, wins the title and Punk ends up beating Cena afterwards. Punk will not leave as champion and Cena keeps his job. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Shoemeister]

YOUR NEW CHAMP! God damn. I would have loved to have seen the aforementioned scenario where Punk beats both MITB winners, but that would have invalidated them. This ending is still great. Punk as champion and I am NOT complaining. Just eager to see RAW tomorrow night!!!

 

[wrestlingfan]

Well just watched MITB in the bank and I am very happy Punk just won, and Cena is fired. We may've just witnessed the burning of the PG Era, and since Punk's contract is expired he's no longer on WWE TV so expect him to appear somewhere else with the title.

 

[Degenerate88]

CM Punk is the NEW WWE Champion! Am I dreaming? Is this real life? Someone seriously pinch me.. Did MITB just steal PPV of the year by that moment? To me, hell yeah!

How unreal is this! Finally some mind-blowing surprises from the WWE. This was done great. Can't wait to see what RAW brings tomorrow night. Intense.

Thoughts and comments!

 

[BigSexy The IndyKiller]

If punk does in fact leave, due to the 90-day no compete clause, we'll already have a new WWE Champ before we ever see Punk in any other company. Only way he appears anywhere else if is he's resigned and Vince lets him compete in other promotions in a joint type venture in order to further the storyline.

 

[streicher187]

Cole pointed out that there is still an hour until punk is no longer with WWE, so they could take the belt from him.. Showing it on raw tomorrow where del Rio and vince show up at his hotel and have a falls count anywhere match or something along that line..

Either way I hope the cena "fired" lasts more then a week this time..

 

[culantro]

it was a great show, with a fantastic ending, i couldn' wait anything different from the finish, the crowd response and the look on macmahon face was priceless, great to see Punk going out that way, i cannot wait to see raw tomorrow!, overall a great thing to witness....

 

[KNPKH2ster]

OMG! CM Punk is the NEW WWE Champion and John Cena is "fired" again?!?! I can't believe it!! I don't know what is going to happen but it will be an interesting blog post 2morrow on the NYCKNP Blog and definitely tune in to Raw