CM Punk "Confronts" Triple H At Comic-Con | Page 2 | WrestleZone Forums

CM Punk "Confronts" Triple H At Comic-Con

Status
Not open for further replies.
First of all, he has resigned. Why show up otherwise? I'm wondering if part of this is specifically to do with what Punk supposedly wanted a few months ago when the story broke on the dirt-sheets: time off. The current storyline on Raw being that he left with the belt means that they can play up his absence and do it in the public eye, more often than not on his terms. He wants to go to a Cubs game? Bring the belt. WWE at ComicCon? He's a comic book nerd. I'm sure it was hardly painful for him to be there, in either case, especially if they payed him for it. On WWE programming, they can continue to mention his name and have events specifically stem from him leaving and bringing the title with him (crowning a new champion, etc.). In his free time, he can show up in public with the belt and do whatever the fuck he wants.

This is 2011. In addition to TV, the internet is a huge phenomenon experienced by probably 80% of people in the USA, Canada and most of Europe, as well as a high percentage of people elsewhere in the world. If he shows up at a Cubs game with the belt, he's not only on the TV broadcast and subsequent highlight shows on multiple channels, but most likely the Cubs site, MLB.com, ESPN.com, other media websites (sports and otherwise), wrestling websites, things like TMZ, plus Facebook and Twitter shared by thousands of different people. It keeps him relevant to not only WWE but the rest of the world, gets people who aren't rabid fans interested in the product and again, the price he pays is going to a fucking Cubs game and having to lug the belt around, maybe even being paid to be there. It's a pretty sweet deal for him, also because he can come back and show up on WWE programming and people won't say "who is this guy and why does he have the belt?". It's a win-win, and will probably only get more fun. Keep the world interested and let him rest while he enjoys himself. I wish he could negotiate a contract for me.
 
If I'm Punk and have any input whatsoever when I leave I suggest this:

I sign an agreement that I will return to the company as a performer by a certain date but until then I am free to do as I please, including crashing WWE Q&A sessions and such, just so long as I don't pull an RVD and disgrace the title (which being straight edge is not a problem). I am free of the 90-day no compete clause and can "defend" the title anywhere including TNA and ROH just as long as those companies know that I am not jobbing in my title matches (I don't really trust TNA to not pull a screw job though, too bad imagine the ratings). This way when I come back I can still claim to the the legit champ because I did defend the title every 30 days.


This angle, thus far, is for the 10%-ers and not going to play out on WWE-TV until Punk returns. His crashing of the Comic-Con will not be mentioned on TV, and if it is it will only be by HHH.
 
Oh cool! Punk is coming back! This is getting good actually, I can't wait to see what happens next.

But from a fan's point of view- wait, that WAS a fan's point of view. They might keep Cena in this storyline, but I highly doubt it. I don't know, they might but somehow I feellike this will be a CM Punk vs Triple H type thing. Or he'll come back, brag for a few weeks then shut up and go on with life. *shrugs*
 
I find this obvious setup quite boring and disinteresting. Everyone knew the second punk walked away with the title at the PPV he had already resigned or has plans to do so. There is no guessing to it.

They have tried so hard to compare the situation to when Bret Hart left but in reality they aren't even close to being the same. Just put Punk back on tv and stop pretending that he's really gone forever and get on with the show instead of crowing some chump interim champion who isn't even championship material.
 
I find this obvious setup quite boring and disinteresting. Everyone knew the second punk walked away with the title at the PPV he had already resigned or has plans to do so. There is no guessing to it.

If by everyone you mean the 10% of wrestling fans that are a part of the IWC then yes, we do know that he's resigned (which BTW is a good thing). But, seriously, no guessing to it? I'm guessing, and after reading the other posts in this thread it seems like they're guessing. I guess you are just that much smarter than everyone else. So now, I give you the floor. Enlighten us, tell us how we can know the ways of the future.
 
Second, the myth about Punk not signing with WWE is now, done. He re-signed. Clearly.

Because he appeared inside of a Comic-Con Press Conference and because he's famous someone running the Convention actually gave him a live microphone? You do realize that Comic-Con is open to the public, and if someone who maybe stopped a few months ago saw CM Punk walk in, they'd probably think it was okay to give him a live microphone. Just saying, it's very and most likely true that he's resigned, but remember stranger things have happened in wrestling.

Secondly, this hardly has any meaning for me at all until WWE covers it on their show or at least on their website. If they continue to ignore it then I'll assume that it was just like a lot of off camera incidents and that we're supposed to forget about it. You know, like when Jericho punched that fat chick?
 
I just hope to God that this angle isn't trainwrecked like the Nexus angle was after Summerslam last year. Nexus in 2010 was also pretty entertaining in the beginning, and now that I am liking this CM Punk storyline I hope the writers don't kill the story or the characters in the process.

From the looks of things, it appears the McMahon-Helmsley era is about to have a Round 2, and there main focus will be on CM Punk.
 
Let me ask you something. As a business man, as a HUMAN BEING WHO SURVIVES IN AMERICA OR ANY OTHER CAPITALIST COUNTRY

...Would you give a man your prestigious award and not re-sign him?

It's not entirely impossible for Vince to let a person walk out with the highest title that they can possibly achieve... or even let an unsigned worker continue to work a few shows just so that they can work a quick storyline and leave. Or do you forget that Jeff Hardy and Bret Hart were BOTH not under contracts at the time? Hell, even Batista last year at Mania was unsigned... yet Vince put the title on him. It's not entirely impossible. So again, what other proof do you have to make anyone believe that CM Punk has resigned because all this "he has the title" bullshit is just that, bullshit.
 
I love how some people thing that Punk has not re-signed and want to see written proof of an actual contract. The latest comment by Jim Ross about Punk and teasing there is more to come should be proof that he has re-signed

Punk may not be wrestling at all but he's should head up WWE's Public Relations department right now because him showing up at a Chicago game with the belt and at Comic-Con which I believe if he was basically trying to screw the WWE, couldn't that Comic-con got a little more out of hand. It's genius and somebody said it, he is attracting to an older group of people, he is the hero for teenagers to younger adults where John Cena is so colorful and so bright and a hero to all the kids.

I did like the idea someone else put (even though I know it wouldn't happen) that even though Punk, whom I do believe is contracted still, he should have relief from his 90-day no-compete clause and him be able to show up on TNA or ROH (more likely ROH cause I think somehow ROH stars could be able to be worked into the storyline either for or against Punk, Imagine Colt Cabana winning the title on ROH to show up on WWE thinking he is the hero for bringing the belt back)

I also would like to see it go further and somehow and Punk get his hands on Alberto Del Rio's money in the bank briefcase while holding the title. Could be that Ricardo Rodriguez hold onto the briefcase like Alex Riley did for the Miz, however Ricardo misplaces the briefcase
 
I love how some people thing that Punk has not re-signed and want to see written proof of an actual contract. The latest comment by Jim Ross about Punk and teasing there is more to come should be proof that he has re-signed.

Again, I raise the Jeff Hardy point. He wasn't ever resigned after the GAB pay per view, but he still managed to win the title at least 2 times before he left the company for good. Sure he may have gone into it with a verbal agreement, but it's just that... verbal. Why is it so hard to believe that at this moment in time, Vince is doing the SAME thing for CM Punk.

Hell, Trish Stratus (the hottest Diva name in the 90s) walked right out of the WWE with the Women's title. Surely Vince would let the WWE champion walk out as well.
 
I have to be honest, I was a casual maybe I'll watch it maybe I won't type of fan before this angle. I had not ordered a ppv since 2007. I used to be hardcore fan, I would go to all the shows in Michigan and Illinois when I could. I'm 22 years old, and all day on Sunday I was looking for tickets to the ppv. I almost paid 500 bucks for a crap seat but couldn't really afford it. Instead I worked my job got home at 10 ordered the ppv at 10:10 and was treated to the best match I had ever seen. When rating a match one has to account for all factors. The hype was the best in years. The crowd was the best crowd they have had since maybe the early 2000's. You had the top name in the industry John Cena, and the BEST wrestler in the WORLD CM Punk. Over 30 minutes of constant action. I was actually standing after the first AA. It brought me back to a time where I would not miss a wrestling show. I think Meltzers rating is right on, because we are going to look back on that match and say thats what changed wrestling.
 
It's not entirely impossible for Vince to let a person walk out with the highest title that they can possibly achieve... or even let an unsigned worker continue to work a few shows just so that they can work a quick storyline and leave.

Does this look like a quick storyline to you?

Or do you forget that Jeff Hardy and Bret Hart were BOTH not under contracts at the time?

Batista lost it at Mania, Jeff didn't have the title. Punk does.

Hell, even Batista last year at Mania was unsigned

He lost the title at Mania. Never got it back.

... yet Vince put the title on him.

Not at Mania.

It's not entirely impossible. So again, what other proof do you have to make anyone believe that CM Punk has resigned

I'll flip this around, why would Punk NOT sign? This about this for a second: Punk was reluctant because he was frustrated he wasn't used properly. He's used properly now. Hell he has the championship with him. Why would he NOT sign? He's not gonna go to TNA after holding a championship and his hometown practically rioting for him. He's not going to ROH either. What in the hell is he going to do? Hollywood?
 
I'll flip this around, why would Punk NOT sign? This about this for a second: Punk was reluctant because he was frustrated he wasn't used properly. He's used properly now. Hell he has the championship with him. Why would he NOT sign? He's not gonna go to TNA after holding a championship and his hometown practically rioting for him. He's not going to ROH either. What in the hell is he going to do? Hollywood?

The same thing Stone Cold and Shawn Micheals did at the high points of their attitude careers... leave. Don't sign a new contract, take some time to chill out and heal himself up and come back whenever he's ready.
 
Again, I raise the Jeff Hardy point. He wasn't ever resigned after the GAB pay per view, but he still managed to win the title at least 2 times before he left the company for good. Sure he may have gone into it with a verbal agreement, but it's just that... verbal. Why is it so hard to believe that at this moment in time, Vince is doing the SAME thing for CM Punk.

Hell, Trish Stratus (the hottest Diva name in the 90s) walked right out of the WWE with the Women's title. Surely Vince would let the WWE champion walk out as well.


Yeah I get what you're talking about. I believe you think he is working on good faith, and that's possible. Thing is, Hardy worked without contract and losing the title. He worked on good faith. Hardy didn't walk out of the WWE with the title.

There are three people on this thread. People who believe Punk re-signed and this is all an act to gain more attention from an older demographic again (like me). People who think Punk has not re-signed and is working on good faith (which I believe in some way, they are still under a contract of good faith, basically saying that they aren't going to screw out the WWE and the title show up on Impact and degraded completely). And the last category are ones that think Punk has not-resigned and he is personally spitting in the face of WWE (which is who I'm really referring to over the issue that I love the fact people think he hasn't re-signed. I don't think you fit that category). At least the other two options, Punk is under some sort of agreement with WWE, meaning he is still working for the WWE somehow, contract or not.

Just to play on what you said a little bit though. Vince could do the same thing with Punk but it'd be for anything other than the WWE Title. It could be be the WHC title and Vince would allow it to go without even thinking twice... The WWE title however is like one of the hugest trademarks the company has and is IMO the ONLY major title the company really has. If Vince just let him go to have is moment that would be like what Punk has said, that a title belt is just a prop and it means nothing, and that Vince thinks it means nothing as well. I just think that'd be way too low and too many fans would see that and WWE could hurt big time in ratings if they saw that. You just can't get away with that if this was real. Even if it was for some purpose of trying to re-introduce a new belt design to the company, it's just saying who cares, take that prop, we can just create a new one.
Right now, Punk is not degrading that title. Kinda like what was said earlier, it has more value being off the show than on the show. If he is gone like the ones who think he has really turned on the WWE, why not just degrade it and do something to it, burn it and show it burned on youtube, give it to TNA, or just some random person, sell it, whatever. If Punk really thought that he was not the spotlight of attention and is taking it personally, why keep what you hate?
 
The same thing Stone Cold and Shawn Micheals did at the high points of their attitude careers... leave. Don't sign a new contract, take some time to chill out and heal himself up and come back whenever he's ready.

Micheals left because his back was broken. Austin left because his neck was broken.


Punk wants to take time off, he's taking it now. Chilling out, going to Cubs games, going to Comi-Con. He can relax and do things he wants to do now. While still being employed--under a contract.
 
Micheals left because his back was broken. Austin left because his neck was broken.


Punk wants to take time off, he's taking it now. Chilling out, going to Cubs games, going to Comi-Con. He can relax and do things he wants to do now. While still being employed--under a contract.

Well said... It also got me to thinking about how the WWE has said they fired someone or they quit but it was all a storyline, and they were always showing up somehow. It's kinda becomes a disappointment to the the majority viewer (the tv audience). It'd be a disappointment for even the top stars of the company to say they quit or was fired and they showed up on RAW or Smackdown next week as a fan, and then show up in the ring and attack the ones in the ring (wait, John Cena did that last year when he was fired during his Nexus feud). It's disappointing cause it means nothing. It doesn't fool the tv viewers. At least with Punk, they are at least trying to fool the tv audience by not putting him on Raw any time soon ('course it has only been one week).

I just had another idea hit though for Punk, he shows up at a Cubs game with the belt, he shows up at Comic-con with the belt. He should show up and interrupt a Fozzy concert with the belt and call out Jericho.
 
I'm sure there were WWE cameras there filming Punk's "interruption", and it will be shown on Raw. I'm sure Punk will be doing this alot and the cameras will be there to capture all of it.

Although Punk wont be at Raw, he'll be on tv reminding everyone he has the WWE title. The Comic Con is only the beginning I'd assume.

Maybe, but I haven't seen it on WWE.com and I believe the cameras with Punk were from the Heyman Hustle or whatever you call it. Although I am probably wrong, it's just what I thought.
 
One thing I'm most happy about is that this will eventually allow Cena to turn heel. As long as this is done right, they've got their new top star.

Anyone who thinks Orton is on an elite level just needs to see what's playing out. He's never going to be at the level of Cena or now Punk.
Better to turn him heel again.
 
I just had another idea hit though for Punk, he shows up at a Cubs game with the belt, he shows up at Comic-con with the belt. He should show up and interrupt a Fozzy concert with the belt and call out Jericho.

Problem I'd have with something like this is, Jericho has been away for a really long time now. There's no story behind he and Punk.
Better to make him involved with someone he has ties too.
 
I got to thinking about this. Just a few months ago Punk was calling out Austin and even Austin had some intrest plus given him wearing Austins shirt the night of his rant. What if this wrestlemania is shaping up to be a legends Vs new guard. Cena Vs. Rock, Austin Vs. Punk, HHH Vs. McMahon (or Proxy) one of the things that I realized was always missing was a passing of the torch between these two generations. Maybe time for it to happen, Seriously HBK and Taker were to busy giving the rub to each other that they forgot the business. Respect between your peers is a great thing. But what about Respect for your apprentiaces. Shouldn't they be helping them get over as well
 
One of the slogans that the WWF used in the attitude era was "Anything can happen in the WWF." In fact it was Jim Ross saying the same that opened up old Smackdown games on Playstation. It feels that WWE is certainly living up to those words all over again with this angle.

This was a great move on the part of the WWE. It made Punk interact with a WWE official on a more or less public stage without him actually showing up inside a WWE ring and it also furthered the storyline. After this awesome interaction we now know that the WWE management wants Punk back but Punk's not interested in the least. The reaction that Punk has been geting is also awesome though at the same time strange as he is doing everything that a heel should do, harrasing a company, holding the title hostage and the likes. WWE should try to capitalise on this reaction and turn him face but I am not really sure how they can do so.

I'm pretty sure that the video footage will be shown on Raw this coming week because it has furthered the storyline. And it is this sort of stuff that keeps me guessing how many aces WWE has up its sleeve.
 
I like CM Punk's work and he is a great perfomer. I would love to come on here and say all of you are wrong and CM Punk shouldn't be getting the props that he is, but the fact of the matter is that he's earned what he's accomplished. He's been up and down through it all he maintained and clawed his way to the top. he's got all the skills it takes to be a top tier performer in this business and he is capitalizing right now. He's on fire. I just hope in pushing CM Punk, they don't bury Cena in the aftermath. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but Cena seemed to be more of a pawn in this whole CM Punk v WWE.
 
The entire situation was perfect and a great follow up. CM Punk bringing the mega phone was excellent, and the entire confrontation was well done. CM Punk continued to own the WWE despite Vince not being there, and it's just another check mark on that rebel badass agenda. The crowd really loved it, and Punk's jokes had some serious burn. I suppose I'm not saying anything that anyone doesn't know. But I like how they're setting him up to continue to rebel even though Vince is out of the picture. I'd be nice to see him have a boss/employee feud with Triple H. Though I'm not certain how it would work.

I hope they continue to drag more of these appearances out and promote them on Raw.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
174,846
Messages
3,300,837
Members
21,727
Latest member
alvarosamaniego
Back
Top