Damien"Dark"Starr
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There's plenty of guys who could face Lesner and out on a decent show in my option, Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler, Orton, Sheamus... WWE needs to out more faith in talent instead of relying on the big names.
Brock Lesnar WWE World Heavyweight Championship Run Thread
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Yes i know Ryback is a 300 pound roid freak but do we want to subject ourselves to that snoozefest
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You do understand that this is wrestling and they could book Lesnar jobbing to Hornswaggle right?
er yeah thats why im discussing wrestling, and why would you say something as ridiculous as brock vs hornswoggle every one knowz that the imp would win
I am pointing out that anyone who could give lesnar a match isnt gonna get booked and probably wont
Do you understand wrestling forums i wonder?
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er yeah thats why im discussing wrestling, and why would you say something as ridiculous as brock vs hornswoggle every one knowz that the imp would win
I am pointing out that anyone who could give lesnar a match isnt gonna get booked and probably wont
Do you understand wrestling forums i wonder?
Then you're pointing wrong since anyone can be booked to "give" Lesnar a match or even beat him.
I can't speak for other wrestling forums but I've never seen THIS one hold to kayfabe ie everyone here knows wrestling is fiction and they don't pretend otherwise. So whether I "understand" wrestling forums is pretty irrelevant as long as I understand THIS forum.
Orton, Triple H, Batista, Cesaro, Sheamus to name a few.
I'd still like Roman Reigns though. He was more over than any of the above prior to his injury.
HHH has already done his thing with Brock, and i dont think any of us want to see batista back anytime soon
As for the other 3 you mention, id like to see all of them have a crack at Brock, but due to Brocks schedule of 1-2 fights every 6 months we would be waiting a while to see the matches take place.
good to actually get an answer on this thread, you wouldnt believe the amount of posts this one total wally keeps dropping on me about brock getting booked with hornswoggle lol ( see full thread for details only $9.99)
HHH has already done his thing with Brock, and i dont think any of us want to see batista back anytime soon
As for the other 3 you mention, id like to see all of them have a crack at Brock, but due to Brocks schedule of 1-2 fights every 6 months we would be waiting a while to see the matches take place.
good to actually get an answer on this thread, you wouldnt believe the amount of posts this one total wally keeps dropping on me about brock getting booked with hornswoggle lol ( see full thread for details only $9.99)
Yeah agree with you on HHH, was just listing those that could put on good matches with Brock that wouldn't break the suspension of disbelief too much. Saying that, I think Daniel Bryan winning against Brock wouldn't be too dissimilar to Eddie Guerrero doing so.
I read those - and I do sorta see where they are coming from, as it is true that anyone can be booked to beat anyone, but they seem to be missing your point. What's being asked is who will WWE actually book to beat Brock Lesnar, and they will only do that with someone that has been booked to be seen as a legitimate contender. Hornswoggle technically could happen sure, but WWE would never risk making a mockery out of their product by doing so. Even kayfabe has it's limits.
Hope I worded that all okay.
Daniel Bryan is an interesting one, he could give Brock a great match, but with his injury and Brock working stiff, would wwe allow it to happen?
I still think Rusev is big enough and quick enough to give Lesnar a good match,
Cena, Taker, HHH and Big show hav all had ok to good rated matches with him, but Brock hasnt had a 5 star match since Kurt Angle!
Oh that could be great if Angle comes back and they put on a wrestling clinic
However i hear that HHH has refused Kurts request to come back
I still think Rusev is big enough and quick enough to give Lesnar a good match,
Cena, Taker, HHH and Big show hav all had ok to good rated matches with him, but Brock hasnt had a 5 star match since Kurt Angle!
Oh that could be great if Angle comes back and they put on a wrestling clinic
However i hear that HHH has refused Kurts request to come back
Daniel Bryan is an interesting one, he could give Brock a great match, but with his injury and Brock working stiff, would wwe allow it to happen?
I still think Rusev is big enough and quick enough to give Lesnar a good match,
Cena, Taker, HHH and Big show hav all had ok to good rated matches with him, but Brock hasnt had a 5 star match since Kurt Angle!
Oh that could be great if Angle comes back and they put on a wrestling clinic
However i hear that HHH has refused Kurts request to come back
I wouldn't expect Daniel Bryan to face Brock Lesnar, depends how much faith they have in him and I'd be nervous as hell about his neck against Lesnar. But he does have that "rematch clause" if they're still doing that.
Rusev v Lesnar would be a good match, but it'd be a monster heel v a monster heel essentially so probably wouldn't sell or go over well.
I doubt Angle's return came solely down to Angle, but I'm definitely disappointed that WWE decided to not let Angle come back. There's money in Angle v Rusev and Angle v Bryan.
Kurt Angle could really liven this roster up, i wouldnt mind seeing Angle vs CM Punk, doing the whole best in the world thing but thats a major pipe dream, planets would need to align for those 2 to get signed at the same time.
Lesnar would be a formidable representitive of the USA against russian Rusev, only way i can see it working and get Lesnar a brief face storyline
Bryan could use the rematch clause, but maybe against Rollins after Rollins eventual cash in, get a major pop and gets back the belt he never lost, sets up quality rivalry between 2 very good wrestlers, having DB face Brock would only play up the whole tragic broken hero angle for Bryan which i think would make him look weak, also Brock would probably break him
Lesnar would be a formidable representitive of the USA against russian Rusev, only way i can see it working and get Lesnar a brief face storyline
Bryan could use the rematch clause, but maybe against Rollins after Rollins eventual cash in, get a major pop and gets back the belt he never lost, sets up quality rivalry between 2 very good wrestlers, having DB face Brock would only play up the whole tragic broken hero angle for Bryan which i think would make him look weak, also Brock would probably break him
YourSavior
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Lesnar is the most legitimate champion that the WWE has had in a long time. It's refreshing. I also enjoy the fact that he isn't crammed down my throat every time I watch Raw.
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What I don't understand is this:
Why did they want to make Lesnar the champion at Summerslam?
They knew that Lesnar wasn't going to be there. So why giving the belt to someone who you know is going to sit home? Lesnar could've won the belt at the Royal Rumble, a PPV that's closer to mania so his absence couldn't been noticed.
Why not having Lesnar facing someone else at Summerslam or even squashing Cena again in a non-title match (say that Cena doesn't get the belt at MITB).
September to January is a big gap. I thought that he'd at least wrestle at Survivor Series.
So, why give him the belt?
Why did they want to make Lesnar the champion at Summerslam?
They knew that Lesnar wasn't going to be there. So why giving the belt to someone who you know is going to sit home? Lesnar could've won the belt at the Royal Rumble, a PPV that's closer to mania so his absence couldn't been noticed.
Why not having Lesnar facing someone else at Summerslam or even squashing Cena again in a non-title match (say that Cena doesn't get the belt at MITB).
September to January is a big gap. I thought that he'd at least wrestle at Survivor Series.
So, why give him the belt?
Brock usually wrestles 3 of the big 4, he has had matches at summerslam for last 3 years and it seemed logical to me before summerslam to have him win the strap.
However, post summerslam he did like 1-2 tv appearances and one video package leading up to NOC which soured my liking for his title reign, i wanted cena to drop the belt, but at least when cena held it we saw it week in week out
The title match itself was pretty good and they played the ending well, but due to Brocks no show, it was all a bit of a waste, is brock gonna get rollins back, is he gonna drop strap back to cena at rumble before the "road to wrestlemainia " gets going or will he hold it through till mainia then drop it and leave following the end of his current deal.
He could even hold it after mainia and we only get half a dozen title fights a year, i bloody hope not though
The fact that the WWE Champion is not going to be at Survivor Series is an utter joke. And without it, the card looks terrible save for one or two matches.
I continually question the logic of the WWE putting the belt on Lesnar, a guy who shows very little interest in the company and is only there for a pay check. And I don't think that his absence has ever been more obvious than now. Here we are, hours away from one of the staples of the WWE calendar and the biggest Championship in the company is nowhere near St Louis. The WWE have dropped the ball with Lesnar and with their Championship and now they are paying the price for it.
Jesus, it's no wonder that they are giving the PPV away for free, it looks rubbish. And Lesnar's run as WWE Champion has got to shoulder some of the blame for that.
I continually question the logic of the WWE putting the belt on Lesnar, a guy who shows very little interest in the company and is only there for a pay check. And I don't think that his absence has ever been more obvious than now. Here we are, hours away from one of the staples of the WWE calendar and the biggest Championship in the company is nowhere near St Louis. The WWE have dropped the ball with Lesnar and with their Championship and now they are paying the price for it.
Jesus, it's no wonder that they are giving the PPV away for free, it looks rubbish. And Lesnar's run as WWE Champion has got to shoulder some of the blame for that.
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Brock's title run is not being affected by all the injuries because he is never there, him holding the title is affecting other wrestlers Such as Seth Rollins ( MITB winner ) and any other big name guy who is ready to hold the gold. I will say if there was a time for all these injuries now would be it because there is no Champion.
Paramecia_eater
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This makes me sad a champion that isnt really a champion as far as I am concerned Dana white is gonna offer a contract just to duck with McMahon, and of course he will take it, then probably drop the title to mizdow which not saying it would be a bad thing cause I like sandow but this would create a stunt world heavy weight title which would land us back to the beginning -____-
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I meant lesner which he would accept the contact to ufc
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At first I was excited, but as far as a run. I could not be least excited. He doesnt defend the title. He doesnt show up with the title. He isnt happy about the title. It all fells forced and it ruins the the title for me since no one gived a damn about it. They talk about it but no one is doing anything about bringing him back. And how come no one called him out for being a weak, cowardly champion.
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I've gone back and forth on who Brock should drop the belt to. I was sort of siding with the rest of the wrestling world and assuming having Reigns win the Rumble and take the belt off Lesnar at Wrestlemania 31 was the plan.
I am starting to doubt this, though. There's enough uneasiness about Lesnar's title reign and several months to go before WrestleMania with two Lesnar match thought to happen in between... his defense against Cena supposedly and whoever they have planned for a filler defense at the February PPV. So, I am going to assume Lesnar will lose the belt in his next title defense before Wrestlemania. My reasoning is this:
1. Reigns versus Lesnar only makes sense as a build up for Reigns... there is no conflict or any animosity between the two and it would would seem too manufactured.
2. WWE is still having problems pushing the network and they need a world champion who they can afford to pay to show up at every PPV.
3. Seth Rollins has been the central heel in WWE this year, in my view. I say more than Lesnar just because Lesnar hasn't been around much.
4. It makes sense that Wrestlemania 31's main event should be a culmination of the stories.
5. It is weird that John Cena's number one contendership is being put on the line at TLC.
So, I think Seth Rollins is going to take the belt off Lesnar. I doubt he will beat Cena for the contendership, but having him face Cena for it puts him into the Cena vs Lesnar dynamic. I've heard people want to see Lesnar defend the belt successfully against Cena at the Rumble, and then Rollins will cash in the contract and take the belt off Lesnar. Then, since the belt will be on Rollins, there is more of a dynamic in place for WrestleMania. Reigns can win the Rumble and continue his feud with Rollins due to the Shield betrayal. However, I don't think this will happen. I've heard people say they think Randy Orton will return and win the Royal Rumble and face Rollins at WrestleMania for the belt, bringing their feud to a head. Now, the only other way I saw it was Cena losing his contendership and Orton facing Lesnar and beating him at the Rumble...only to have Rollins win the Rumble and go to Wrestlemania. This doesn't work due to the MITB contract... it seems completely unnecessary to have Rollins win the Rumble and go to the main event at WrestleMania while still holding the contract. I think the first scenario would be the absolute best one they could construct. But I don't believe it will be Lesnar and Reigns at WrestleMania anymore. The reason I don't think Cena will beat Lesnar for the belt and then have Rollins cash in on Cena is that they won't have Cena tie Flair just to lose the belt immediately after. But yeah, Lesnar obviously will be dropping the belt at WrestleMania
I am starting to doubt this, though. There's enough uneasiness about Lesnar's title reign and several months to go before WrestleMania with two Lesnar match thought to happen in between... his defense against Cena supposedly and whoever they have planned for a filler defense at the February PPV. So, I am going to assume Lesnar will lose the belt in his next title defense before Wrestlemania. My reasoning is this:
1. Reigns versus Lesnar only makes sense as a build up for Reigns... there is no conflict or any animosity between the two and it would would seem too manufactured.
2. WWE is still having problems pushing the network and they need a world champion who they can afford to pay to show up at every PPV.
3. Seth Rollins has been the central heel in WWE this year, in my view. I say more than Lesnar just because Lesnar hasn't been around much.
4. It makes sense that Wrestlemania 31's main event should be a culmination of the stories.
5. It is weird that John Cena's number one contendership is being put on the line at TLC.
So, I think Seth Rollins is going to take the belt off Lesnar. I doubt he will beat Cena for the contendership, but having him face Cena for it puts him into the Cena vs Lesnar dynamic. I've heard people want to see Lesnar defend the belt successfully against Cena at the Rumble, and then Rollins will cash in the contract and take the belt off Lesnar. Then, since the belt will be on Rollins, there is more of a dynamic in place for WrestleMania. Reigns can win the Rumble and continue his feud with Rollins due to the Shield betrayal. However, I don't think this will happen. I've heard people say they think Randy Orton will return and win the Royal Rumble and face Rollins at WrestleMania for the belt, bringing their feud to a head. Now, the only other way I saw it was Cena losing his contendership and Orton facing Lesnar and beating him at the Rumble...only to have Rollins win the Rumble and go to Wrestlemania. This doesn't work due to the MITB contract... it seems completely unnecessary to have Rollins win the Rumble and go to the main event at WrestleMania while still holding the contract. I think the first scenario would be the absolute best one they could construct. But I don't believe it will be Lesnar and Reigns at WrestleMania anymore. The reason I don't think Cena will beat Lesnar for the belt and then have Rollins cash in on Cena is that they won't have Cena tie Flair just to lose the belt immediately after. But yeah, Lesnar obviously will be dropping the belt at WrestleMania
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I Would not mind Reigns vs Rollins for the WWEWHC at all. I think they are more than capable of having an incredible main event match. However i dont see lesnar competing without the title at mania unless the rumors of him leaving soon are true. But hey, anything can happen!
One thing i thought about is what if cena loses his contendership to Rollins. Rollins starts to say he is the new #1 contender then Orton returns, beats rollins and fights Lesnar for the gold at RR. Rollins then costs Orton the match by interference and goes on to beat Lesnar for the title. Reigns goes onto to win the rumble but Lesnar has a rematch clause that he demands gets instated at WM31. Thus, Rollins vs. Reigns vs. Lesnar for the WWEWHC.
Another BIG "what if" is what if Lesnar drops the title to Rollins and before he can demand a rematch the undertaker returns and they have a rematch which will also be the undertaker's final match. He could also be the first one to beat lesnar CLEAN in quite some time ( like 2012 i think). the ME could then be Reigns vs Rollins or hell even Reigns vs. Rollins vs. Ambrose for the WWEWHC which would be amazing.
One thing i thought about is what if cena loses his contendership to Rollins. Rollins starts to say he is the new #1 contender then Orton returns, beats rollins and fights Lesnar for the gold at RR. Rollins then costs Orton the match by interference and goes on to beat Lesnar for the title. Reigns goes onto to win the rumble but Lesnar has a rematch clause that he demands gets instated at WM31. Thus, Rollins vs. Reigns vs. Lesnar for the WWEWHC.
Another BIG "what if" is what if Lesnar drops the title to Rollins and before he can demand a rematch the undertaker returns and they have a rematch which will also be the undertaker's final match. He could also be the first one to beat lesnar CLEAN in quite some time ( like 2012 i think). the ME could then be Reigns vs Rollins or hell even Reigns vs. Rollins vs. Ambrose for the WWEWHC which would be amazing.
BillAlfonsos_Whistle
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To me the only matches that makes any sense for the WWE title match at Mania is Lesnar vs. The Rock or Lesnar vs. The Undertaker II for the belt. If they trot out one of the green guys who aren't ready to be the face of the federation it will not only ruin their flagship PPV but will likely ruin that guys career.
They have HUGE shoes to fill after WM30 which I personally feel is one of the greatest Wrestling Cards of all time. Perfectly booked. PERFECTLY. Some may say the Undertaker's loss derailed Daniel Bryan's big moment but 80k chanting "Yes!" disagree severely. It was a great show. Two top notch main-event moments.
Unless they are okay with WM31 falling WELL short of that yard stick they need another part timer to come back.
They have HUGE shoes to fill after WM30 which I personally feel is one of the greatest Wrestling Cards of all time. Perfectly booked. PERFECTLY. Some may say the Undertaker's loss derailed Daniel Bryan's big moment but 80k chanting "Yes!" disagree severely. It was a great show. Two top notch main-event moments.
Unless they are okay with WM31 falling WELL short of that yard stick they need another part timer to come back.
When wwe handed lesnar the belt with the plan being him to hold until mania i was cool with it. When rumors began of lesnar dropping the belt to riegns my initial reaction was "eh maybe if he's built right". Then roman got injured. And immediatly i was deflated due to the prospect of cena v lesnar continueing untilmania with cena eventually winning his redemption.... But what if. What if the mania card looked like this.
Rock vs Lesnar for the strap
Cena vs riegns
HHH vs Sting control of raw and smackdown
With all three matches stories intertwing the booking could look something like this:
have cena loose the match at rumble. Brock decimates him again like at summer slam. But have that go on right before the rumble have cena in a rage backstage attack the last guy in the rumble before he enters and its riegns, cena takes his spot wins the rumble, monday anon gm says no this isn't going to work cena you blew your shot. The only way you can keep your shot is beating the guy you screwed. Riegns vs cena at raw riegns comes out and taunts cena. Cena says thats not gunna happen tonight cuz i made myself a deal with the devil. If i don't beat brock my career means nothing i am putting the athority back in power.
The authority comes back and thanks cena by making this match, elimination chamber for the no 1 contenders spot a wrestlemania cena ziggle riegns ambrose wyatt and literally anyone.
They do some screwy finish and the match ends with cena and riegns the last two and it goes to no contest.
Enter rock
Rock cuta some promo about how its been two years since his los to cena and he wants redemption by beating the guy cena can't.
Now that covers cena v riegns and rock vs lesnar
Sting vs hhh can be as simple as hogan buys part of the company. Just recycle flair vs mcmahon or something.
The rest of the card can be awesome as well but i will let you guys come up with that.
Rock vs Lesnar for the strap
Cena vs riegns
HHH vs Sting control of raw and smackdown
With all three matches stories intertwing the booking could look something like this:
have cena loose the match at rumble. Brock decimates him again like at summer slam. But have that go on right before the rumble have cena in a rage backstage attack the last guy in the rumble before he enters and its riegns, cena takes his spot wins the rumble, monday anon gm says no this isn't going to work cena you blew your shot. The only way you can keep your shot is beating the guy you screwed. Riegns vs cena at raw riegns comes out and taunts cena. Cena says thats not gunna happen tonight cuz i made myself a deal with the devil. If i don't beat brock my career means nothing i am putting the athority back in power.
The authority comes back and thanks cena by making this match, elimination chamber for the no 1 contenders spot a wrestlemania cena ziggle riegns ambrose wyatt and literally anyone.
They do some screwy finish and the match ends with cena and riegns the last two and it goes to no contest.
Enter rock
Rock cuta some promo about how its been two years since his los to cena and he wants redemption by beating the guy cena can't.
Now that covers cena v riegns and rock vs lesnar
Sting vs hhh can be as simple as hogan buys part of the company. Just recycle flair vs mcmahon or something.
The rest of the card can be awesome as well but i will let you guys come up with that.
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