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Cena is no Bruno & Cole is no Solie
John Cena, hero to millions of kids, was systematically dissected, dismembered and destroyed by the One behind the One in 21-1, the Beast Incarnate, BRRRRRRRRRRROCK LLLLLESNARRRRRRRRR!
Brock Lesnar WWE World Heavyweight Championship Run Thread
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Cena got killed from bell to bell I loved it thought it was amazing brock is a beast I totally believe this is how all the lesnar matches should go since he a legit fighter he should not have lost to cena in the first match or to hunter at wm he should hold the title for a lOng time
I thought the match was great. I hope subscribers don't renew their subscriptions right away, may be the only leverage to keep WWE to stay consistent.
It's going to be interesting to see if more of Brock's dates get announced so we all could have a better idea of what to expect from Brock's reign. However, it's a mystery going forth.
It's going to be interesting to see if more of Brock's dates get announced so we all could have a better idea of what to expect from Brock's reign. However, it's a mystery going forth.
Softcore Holly
Only Holly to never hold HC title
I thought he would've looked stronger if he did more than the same move over and over again. The German is a impressive looking move, especially when done by a huge guy like Brock and with the way Cena was flying around. But no matter how impressive something is, it gets stale when done over and over again, especially with barely anything in between. Like oh look it's a giant sized one trick pony, how wonderful.
I agree that Cena should've gotten more in, it would've made Brock look better if he took everything Cena had and still look dominate compared to German Suplexing a ragdoll for almost 20 minutes. And more importantly it would've been a better show for us.
As for most of the other posts here, I get that Cena has been on top of the mountain for a really long time now and that it's nice to see something different from him coming out on top or totally robbed out of the win, but we shouldn't be calling this anything remotely close to a good match. If we replaced Cena with just about anyone else on the roster this place would be almost unanimously calling this a crappy squash and be complaining how much it sucked. Someone mentioned Cesaro earlier, oh good god the hell this place would raise if Cesaro was in Cena's place tonight.
I'm not opposed at all to Brock winning, I'm actually very interested to see how they're going to handle Brock's title reign. But come on guys, at least call it as it is: that match was a snoozefest and was about as entertaining as Ryback squashing local jobbers 2 years ago. Just because it was Cena getting squashed instead doesn't suddenly make the match into a good one.
I thought he would've looked stronger if he did more than the same move over and over again. The German is a impressive looking move, especially when done by a huge guy like Brock and with the way Cena was flying around. But no matter how impressive something is, it gets stale when done over and over again, especially with barely anything in between. Like oh look it's a giant sized one trick pony, how wonderful.
I agree that Cena should've gotten more in, it would've made Brock look better if he took everything Cena had and still look absolutely dominate compared to German Suplexing a ragdoll for almost 20 minutes. And more importantly it would've been a better show for us.
As for most of the other posts here, I get that Cena has been on top of the mountain for a really long time now and that it's nice to see something different from him coming out on top or robbed out of the win, but we shouldn't be calling this anything remotely close to a "good match". If we replaced Cena with just about anyone else on the roster this place would be almost unanimously calling this a crappy squash and be complaining how much it sucked. Someone mentioned Cesaro earlier, oh good god the hell this place would raise if Cesaro was in Cena's place tonight.
I'm not opposed at all to Brock winning, I'm actually very interested to see how they're going to handle Brock's title reign. But come on guys, at least call it as it is: that match was a snoozefest and was about as entertaining as Ryback squashing local jobbers 2 years ago. Just because it was Cena getting squashed instead doesn't suddenly make the match into a good one.
Wrestling is a SHOW, dont treat it as anything else but a show. Of course people would have a different reaction to the match if you switched Cena out with another wrestler. The story makes sense and fits because of the two characters that were involved. This is true with EVERY show. Take your favorite show, and swap out a character in a major plot twist and see if you don't have a different reaction to that episode/season.
"Good Match" is completely an opinion. I think that Savage vs Steamboat was an average match that any two wrestlers could have put on...does that make it a fact? I prefer storytelling matches such as this one more than the technical 30 min, 500 moves used matches. It just depends on the person. Honestly, imo this is a match of the year candidate.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
I'm split between liking this and hating this...
I like this because it's fresh and exciting. Lesnar is vicious and plays his role perfectly. But I hate this because Lesnar isn't a full time worker. He's part time. Meaning he'll only work certain shows and rarely will he show up on television. As a world champion that just doesn't feel right. His title reign screams "transitional" even though he'll probably end up holding it for several months. I'm expecting a rematch against Cena and maybe a match against Orton before he loses it. But probably nothing else.
I suppose the best thing is if Lesnar becomes a full time worker. Even if he doesn't wrestle let him at least be seen on TV carrying the belt around interacting with people.
I like this because it's fresh and exciting. Lesnar is vicious and plays his role perfectly. But I hate this because Lesnar isn't a full time worker. He's part time. Meaning he'll only work certain shows and rarely will he show up on television. As a world champion that just doesn't feel right. His title reign screams "transitional" even though he'll probably end up holding it for several months. I'm expecting a rematch against Cena and maybe a match against Orton before he loses it. But probably nothing else.
I suppose the best thing is if Lesnar becomes a full time worker. Even if he doesn't wrestle let him at least be seen on TV carrying the belt around interacting with people.
MidnightZero
Dark Match Jobber
Perfect booking for the WWE in my opinion. Whoever Brock coughs up the title to is getting a huge rub. Contrary to what was said before, I think we will see a little Brock vs Authority angle. Here is how I see Raw working out. Trips comes out and pretty much gloats about how he always wins and that the title is coming back to the Authority. Then Paul Heyman comes out and says that the title isn't on the Authority, it is on Brock. Brock then comes down and pretty much destroys the Authority, and pretty much anyone who comes into contact with him. The thing is that this doesn't need to be an exclusive Brock vs Authority feud. You can throw in faces too to prevent just a heel vs heel feud.
Sheamus' Suntan
A hound of justice
I need to raise my hand here and ask a question.
The logic is cena faces lesnar again at Night of Champions. Issue is this; Lesnar can't lose. By that, I mean. He beat Taker. He smashed Cena. At the two biggest ppv events of the year. If he loses at an inferior Night of Champions, it all goes to waste. Its pointless. I'd even go so far as to say Lesnar NEEDS the title until Wrestlemania.
But Brock is...not here for most of that build up. He won't be around for Hell in a Cell. Nor for Survivor. In fact, he may not return until Rumble, not unless this final year has a substantial amount of extra dates for Lesnar in his contract. So what happens to the title?
I think this is how they retire both WWE and big gold belts. The WWE World heavyweight championship gets its own design and becomes one belt. Lesnar comes back still as the "real" champ, to beat the new champ at Rumble. Then its all about the rumble winner vs Lesnar.
The logic is cena faces lesnar again at Night of Champions. Issue is this; Lesnar can't lose. By that, I mean. He beat Taker. He smashed Cena. At the two biggest ppv events of the year. If he loses at an inferior Night of Champions, it all goes to waste. Its pointless. I'd even go so far as to say Lesnar NEEDS the title until Wrestlemania.
But Brock is...not here for most of that build up. He won't be around for Hell in a Cell. Nor for Survivor. In fact, he may not return until Rumble, not unless this final year has a substantial amount of extra dates for Lesnar in his contract. So what happens to the title?
I think this is how they retire both WWE and big gold belts. The WWE World heavyweight championship gets its own design and becomes one belt. Lesnar comes back still as the "real" champ, to beat the new champ at Rumble. Then its all about the rumble winner vs Lesnar.
WarroBODFan
Doink Stan
I LOVED it. Loved the way they booked this. I've been super critical of Cena for many years, and will continue to be I'm sure, but I give him some props for jobbing this time. I like the uncertainty surrounding the situation now. I assume Cena will get a re-match at NoC and may be booked a little bit stronger, but I would guess Lesnar still retains. Then the future, whoever will take down Lesnar will get automatic superstar status. Right now, I'd say it's looking like it'll be Roman Reigns.
I thought it was all great. WWE finally had the nerve to book a match the way it needed to be done rather than trying to tread the line and protect everyone involved. Especially considering the retroactive effect it would have had on breaking Taker's streak if they had made Brock look any less dominant last night. Anything less than what we were given would have been terrible.
I share the sentiment of others that I'm a little shaky on how often our new champion is going to be around. But it doesn't concern me all that much because frankly, I haven't been watching WWE much anymore. So for anyone who doesn't see the value in Brock, this was the first of any WWE programming I wanted to see in a long time. I've watched wrestling since 97 but I stopped watching months ago when we were involving evil childrens choirs in Bray Wyatt storylines, etc. This match recaptured my interest and I'd imagine I'm not the only one. So that's what a "part timer" like Brock does for the company. It's the only angle WWE is working seriously enough that I don't feel embarrassed to be watching as I near 30 years old.
So the irony there is that if Brock was going to be full time now, they'd have won me back as a regular fan because I want to see what he's going to do. But because he likely won't be, I can probably tune right back out again until I hear there's been a match announced for him. I hope they surprise us, maybe they worked something out with Brock where they told him there's no way he can expect to be champ and work so few dates. I recall this from a recent Heyman interview "I don’t know if any of those critics are privy to an agreement Brock Lesnar may or may not have with WWE. So I don’t understand how anybody can credibly say this is what Brock Lesnar’s schedule is going to be when he becomes the WWE champion." But then he did also go on to explain why he thinks a part time champion would be a good thing, so I don't know if we'll be seeing him more often or not.
I'm frankly surprised but very grateful that they've chosen to fully back the idea that Brock is a dominant character. WWE is so wishy washy on everything these days and that's why it sucks. It's not just that the writing is bad, but they won't even commit to the bad stuff they're writing. All the blind twist and turns we've seen Kane go through, the lame way the Daniel Bryan/Wyatt Family/Kane stuff played out and was forgotten about in a week, etc.
I thought maybe they'd start to hesitate on the angle they're playing out with Brock but I'm thrilled that they didn't. I was at Extreme Rules live when Brock returned to face Cena the last time and I was annoyed that night when Cena got the win. What we saw at Summerslam is how it should have been all along. That previous Brock return was a false start, a waste of time, and just made him look weak. This is what I've been wanting to see.
If Brock shows up more often, I'll be tuning in. If he remains part time, that just works to the advantage of someone like me who doesn't want to watch 3 hours of terrible Raw just to see one person. As long as they clearly announce when he'll be showing up next, I won't bother to tune in until then.
I share the sentiment of others that I'm a little shaky on how often our new champion is going to be around. But it doesn't concern me all that much because frankly, I haven't been watching WWE much anymore. So for anyone who doesn't see the value in Brock, this was the first of any WWE programming I wanted to see in a long time. I've watched wrestling since 97 but I stopped watching months ago when we were involving evil childrens choirs in Bray Wyatt storylines, etc. This match recaptured my interest and I'd imagine I'm not the only one. So that's what a "part timer" like Brock does for the company. It's the only angle WWE is working seriously enough that I don't feel embarrassed to be watching as I near 30 years old.
So the irony there is that if Brock was going to be full time now, they'd have won me back as a regular fan because I want to see what he's going to do. But because he likely won't be, I can probably tune right back out again until I hear there's been a match announced for him. I hope they surprise us, maybe they worked something out with Brock where they told him there's no way he can expect to be champ and work so few dates. I recall this from a recent Heyman interview "I don’t know if any of those critics are privy to an agreement Brock Lesnar may or may not have with WWE. So I don’t understand how anybody can credibly say this is what Brock Lesnar’s schedule is going to be when he becomes the WWE champion." But then he did also go on to explain why he thinks a part time champion would be a good thing, so I don't know if we'll be seeing him more often or not.
I'm frankly surprised but very grateful that they've chosen to fully back the idea that Brock is a dominant character. WWE is so wishy washy on everything these days and that's why it sucks. It's not just that the writing is bad, but they won't even commit to the bad stuff they're writing. All the blind twist and turns we've seen Kane go through, the lame way the Daniel Bryan/Wyatt Family/Kane stuff played out and was forgotten about in a week, etc.
I thought maybe they'd start to hesitate on the angle they're playing out with Brock but I'm thrilled that they didn't. I was at Extreme Rules live when Brock returned to face Cena the last time and I was annoyed that night when Cena got the win. What we saw at Summerslam is how it should have been all along. That previous Brock return was a false start, a waste of time, and just made him look weak. This is what I've been wanting to see.
If Brock shows up more often, I'll be tuning in. If he remains part time, that just works to the advantage of someone like me who doesn't want to watch 3 hours of terrible Raw just to see one person. As long as they clearly announce when he'll be showing up next, I won't bother to tune in until then.
Really good PPV with a fantastic main event storyline wise.
Can understand some saying it was boring but they need to look at the bigger picture, which is Lesnar now looks completely unstoppable and whoever does defeat him gets made in to the number one babyface in the company.
I worry that this is all leading to Reigns winning the Rumble and the title at Mania. I don't think he's ready yet and I think the fans will push back on the guy if he is given a megapush. I could easily see him getting booed out of the building at Mania by a smark crowd, we even heard a few catcalls for the guy tonight and he was fighting Randy Orton, who has redefined X-Pac heat for about two years straight now.
That said, I don't know who else they can build to beat Brock. Cena winning at Mania is a distinct possibility but would be utterly pointless. Bryan, even if he returns this year, won't get that push. CM Punk is gone. I guess Undertaker could get a rematch so he can retire with the title, but it would be pretty pointless again.
So we're left with a choice between Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins and Wyatt. Wyatt won't get it, though I think a face turn around the Rumble with him talking about how it takes a monster to bring down a machine like Brock could work. That said I don't see him being pegged as their next main event babyface so I don't see it happening.
That leaves the Shield. You could easily work a storyline now where Rollins rebels against the Authority over broken promises. He could point out that he was meant to be their next champ and they screwed him by going with Lesnar. It doesn't make for a very compelling babyface storyline turn and is probably too soon after his heel turn to implement correctly. I could see them go with this storyline and have him cash in at Night of Champions though. Just to give Brock someone else to destroy.
So that leaves Ambrose and Reigns. I think we all know it will be Reigns but I'd seriously go with Ambrose if I were WWE. He is organically growing as an out of control babyface in the mold of Steve Austin and they could play up how unpredictable he is in the coming months and why that is a threat to Lesnar. Talk about how no-one knows his game plan heading in to a match and how that goes against a UFC guy like Brock, one who likes to study his opponents beforehand.
Can understand some saying it was boring but they need to look at the bigger picture, which is Lesnar now looks completely unstoppable and whoever does defeat him gets made in to the number one babyface in the company.
I worry that this is all leading to Reigns winning the Rumble and the title at Mania. I don't think he's ready yet and I think the fans will push back on the guy if he is given a megapush. I could easily see him getting booed out of the building at Mania by a smark crowd, we even heard a few catcalls for the guy tonight and he was fighting Randy Orton, who has redefined X-Pac heat for about two years straight now.
That said, I don't know who else they can build to beat Brock. Cena winning at Mania is a distinct possibility but would be utterly pointless. Bryan, even if he returns this year, won't get that push. CM Punk is gone. I guess Undertaker could get a rematch so he can retire with the title, but it would be pretty pointless again.
So we're left with a choice between Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins and Wyatt. Wyatt won't get it, though I think a face turn around the Rumble with him talking about how it takes a monster to bring down a machine like Brock could work. That said I don't see him being pegged as their next main event babyface so I don't see it happening.
That leaves the Shield. You could easily work a storyline now where Rollins rebels against the Authority over broken promises. He could point out that he was meant to be their next champ and they screwed him by going with Lesnar. It doesn't make for a very compelling babyface storyline turn and is probably too soon after his heel turn to implement correctly. I could see them go with this storyline and have him cash in at Night of Champions though. Just to give Brock someone else to destroy.
So that leaves Ambrose and Reigns. I think we all know it will be Reigns but I'd seriously go with Ambrose if I were WWE. He is organically growing as an out of control babyface in the mold of Steve Austin and they could play up how unpredictable he is in the coming months and why that is a threat to Lesnar. Talk about how no-one knows his game plan heading in to a match and how that goes against a UFC guy like Brock, one who likes to study his opponents beforehand.
hollowpoint
The Greatest of the Universe!!
I wasn't a fan of the match and Brock Lesnar in particular. It's not because Lesnar straight up dominated the match, it was more because Lesnar puts on terrible performances as of late. Seems like he's there to just collect a check and doesnt really put any effort into putting on a good match. I don't understand how he can be praised for doing 16 German suplexes and 2 F5s and people say this is great, but Cena does his "Five moves of doom" and he's a terrible wrestler.
The way he dominated Cena was believable from a physical standpoint simply because Lesnar is a Super Heavyweight and a beast in all sense of the word. I'm just disappointed because given Lesnar's amateur wrestling background and natural athleticism, he's turned himself to nothing more than a undisciplined brawler who no sells and dominates. I'm not sure how it will all come about, but I don't see Lesnar staying around long enough for any of this to matter.
The way he dominated Cena was believable from a physical standpoint simply because Lesnar is a Super Heavyweight and a beast in all sense of the word. I'm just disappointed because given Lesnar's amateur wrestling background and natural athleticism, he's turned himself to nothing more than a undisciplined brawler who no sells and dominates. I'm not sure how it will all come about, but I don't see Lesnar staying around long enough for any of this to matter.
Good Golly It's Ollie
Magical Girl
So yeah it was exciting but the pressing issue is like, how does a part-timer carry the strap to Mania? We are all already looking so far ahead, some people might argue, but of course such a crazy verdict caused that.
At this point it's only an assumption that that is the plan. He could well go to Survivor Series and drop it there. Everyone's already looking to see how Brock will drop the strap even though he's only just won it, because squashing Cena makes you look fucking invincible.
Honestly I think it might only make sense if Brock is somehow forced to vacate the title but that's already happened this year and I can't be arsed with it again. Or he gets ganged up on by like 10 people and then Rollins cashes in with all the Authority holding Brock down for the pin, but that would involve the Authority screwing over one of their own guys, shit writing, and just general not-sense-making.
At this point it's only an assumption that that is the plan. He could well go to Survivor Series and drop it there. Everyone's already looking to see how Brock will drop the strap even though he's only just won it, because squashing Cena makes you look fucking invincible.
Honestly I think it might only make sense if Brock is somehow forced to vacate the title but that's already happened this year and I can't be arsed with it again. Or he gets ganged up on by like 10 people and then Rollins cashes in with all the Authority holding Brock down for the pin, but that would involve the Authority screwing over one of their own guys, shit writing, and just general not-sense-making.
How are people saying Lesnar put on bad matches this year? From a story telling point of view his matches have been excellent. He has demolished Big Show, Undertaker and Cena and now stands tall as the absolute beast of the WWE.
We chastise WWE for not telling long term stories but then they give us this and people complain about it too? All of this is leading to a match somewhere down the line, probably at Mania, when a new champion/hero will be crowned by finally taking down Lesnar. That's the story that is being told and that's what is important.
We chastise WWE for not telling long term stories but then they give us this and people complain about it too? All of this is leading to a match somewhere down the line, probably at Mania, when a new champion/hero will be crowned by finally taking down Lesnar. That's the story that is being told and that's what is important.
stingray11214
Cena is no Bruno & Cole is no Solie
Look;
Brock Lesnar just put to bed one of the most legendary feats in the history of the squared circle: Undertaker's undefeated streak. In order for THAT to CONTINUE to mean something, he had to do nothing less than annihilate Cena. Sure, it was an old-school, Championship Wrestling at midnight, squash match. But, it needed to be in order for Brock to look invincible. Had Cena actually put up a fight, or worse yet, become "Super Cena" and win, it would have made Brock's accomplishment at 'Mania, as well as Taker's streak, invalid. Furthermore, it also means full speed ahead for Roman Reigns vs. Lesnar for the belt at WM31.
As for those who cringe at Lesnar being a "part-timer", VKM is finally doing the Cornette and making people PAY for the privilege of seeing the Champ. As in $9.99 a month. You want to see Lesnar defend the belt at this show? Buy the Network for $9.99.
Brock Lesnar just put to bed one of the most legendary feats in the history of the squared circle: Undertaker's undefeated streak. In order for THAT to CONTINUE to mean something, he had to do nothing less than annihilate Cena. Sure, it was an old-school, Championship Wrestling at midnight, squash match. But, it needed to be in order for Brock to look invincible. Had Cena actually put up a fight, or worse yet, become "Super Cena" and win, it would have made Brock's accomplishment at 'Mania, as well as Taker's streak, invalid. Furthermore, it also means full speed ahead for Roman Reigns vs. Lesnar for the belt at WM31.
As for those who cringe at Lesnar being a "part-timer", VKM is finally doing the Cornette and making people PAY for the privilege of seeing the Champ. As in $9.99 a month. You want to see Lesnar defend the belt at this show? Buy the Network for $9.99.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
Depending upon what WWE's original plans may have been for Bryan vs. Lesnar, Bryan being on the shelf MAY have been a slight blessing in disguise.
As everyone's noticed, Lesnar obliterated John Cena in their bout last night. Cena's NEVER been dominated in any match like that. You could count the number of offensive moves Cena launched against Lesnar last night on both hands and have fingers left over. As a result, I'm sure that there was many a happy Cena haters watching last night.
I have a feeling, however, that people's reaction wouldn't have been so positive had this been Daniel Bryan. In the grand scheme of things, this match doesn't hurt Cena as his legacy is long since established and safe even though he was dominated so completely. Had Bryan been in the match and the booking went exactly the same way, it would've been a different story. Bryan's legacy isn't anywhere close to being as secure as Cena's, obviously as Cena's been THE face of WWE for almost a decade, and Bryan being decimated in such a way would've made him look like a punk. While only a guess on my part, I don't think they'd have gone with the bout being nearly as one sided because I see WWE going with a David vs. Goliath scenario. That scenario doesn't work unless David, AKA Bryan in this case, whether wins or loses, is able to mount enough offense to where there are at least one or two moments in which it looks like he might win.
As everyone's noticed, Lesnar obliterated John Cena in their bout last night. Cena's NEVER been dominated in any match like that. You could count the number of offensive moves Cena launched against Lesnar last night on both hands and have fingers left over. As a result, I'm sure that there was many a happy Cena haters watching last night.
I have a feeling, however, that people's reaction wouldn't have been so positive had this been Daniel Bryan. In the grand scheme of things, this match doesn't hurt Cena as his legacy is long since established and safe even though he was dominated so completely. Had Bryan been in the match and the booking went exactly the same way, it would've been a different story. Bryan's legacy isn't anywhere close to being as secure as Cena's, obviously as Cena's been THE face of WWE for almost a decade, and Bryan being decimated in such a way would've made him look like a punk. While only a guess on my part, I don't think they'd have gone with the bout being nearly as one sided because I see WWE going with a David vs. Goliath scenario. That scenario doesn't work unless David, AKA Bryan in this case, whether wins or loses, is able to mount enough offense to where there are at least one or two moments in which it looks like he might win.
Some how I feel like Batista vs Brock is in the cards. I feel like Batista some how comes back as a face to challenge Lesnar. HHH gets involved somehow and it moves away to a HHH vs Batista match for Wrestlemania which Batista keeps saying he wants as his retirement match. Batista vs Brock at Royal Rumble is a good way to sell the ppv. I just dont know who challenges Lesnar up until then? Who on the roster is a legit enough challenger for Lesnar? I guess if they built Sheamus up some he could hold his own with Lesnar. The only two others that seem legit enough were Mark Henry and Big Show but he already killed them.
JoeFromTomsRiver
Championship Contender
To people complaining about the quality of the match...IT WAS A SQUASH. This wasn't going to be a "good match", it was supposed to be a total decimation. It's more about the "moment" and what it means for the company moving forward, not everything is about work rate. I agree that maybe Lesnar could have replaced a few of the german suplexes with belly to bellys, or other moves, but the point is the same. Cena was overmatched and out of his league, and Lesnar was toying with him.
Where they go with Lesnar as champ after destroying the top dog, and how Cena comes back from being humiliated, should be interesting stuff.
Where they go with Lesnar as champ after destroying the top dog, and how Cena comes back from being humiliated, should be interesting stuff.
LionheartY2J
Occasional Pre-Show
I'm curious as to where they go with Lesner at this point. Is he going to become an authority lackey? Maybe give them reason to beat out Kane, leading to a short feud between Lesner and Kane, which Lesner obviously dominates?
Also, what about Rollins and the MIB? Assuming that Lesner has a long-ish title run, which he should, do they just table it? Or else it could be a good way to turn Lesner into a face, or at least tweener at some point down the road; Lesner as a reluctant authority member. They get sick of him rebelling, then an all out assault in him and let Rollis cash in the MIB for the easy win? Or else just do this before Lesner inevitably takes his usual 6-8 month vacay.
Or do they just let him go off on his own without the Authority, and have somebody, probably Reigns best him at WM?
Also, what about Rollins and the MIB? Assuming that Lesner has a long-ish title run, which he should, do they just table it? Or else it could be a good way to turn Lesner into a face, or at least tweener at some point down the road; Lesner as a reluctant authority member. They get sick of him rebelling, then an all out assault in him and let Rollis cash in the MIB for the easy win? Or else just do this before Lesner inevitably takes his usual 6-8 month vacay.
Or do they just let him go off on his own without the Authority, and have somebody, probably Reigns best him at WM?
It was expected but it was executed to perfection. Brock looks unstoppable and they have capitalised on him ending the streak.
Brock's path as champ is curious. His schedule; his opponents; when he drops the belt and Seth Rollins. I'm interested at what they do. If I was to predict: Brock will drop the belt after NoC or Hell in a Cell to Rollins who can carry while Brock takes a break.
I'm really looking forward to this title reign. Heyman's promos and Brock's matches are a wonderful combination and hopefully they deliver.
Brock's path as champ is curious. His schedule; his opponents; when he drops the belt and Seth Rollins. I'm interested at what they do. If I was to predict: Brock will drop the belt after NoC or Hell in a Cell to Rollins who can carry while Brock takes a break.
I'm really looking forward to this title reign. Heyman's promos and Brock's matches are a wonderful combination and hopefully they deliver.
Rollins can't carry it because he's heel. Making him a face again just removes the heat from the last 3 or 4 months.
The more that I think about it, the more I realize that either Cena wins in a gimmick match at NoC, but is so destroyed that Rollins gets a cash in, or else Lesnar rides this thing all the way to Mania.
The more that I think about it, the more I realize that either Cena wins in a gimmick match at NoC, but is so destroyed that Rollins gets a cash in, or else Lesnar rides this thing all the way to Mania.
As we all know, super cena will return next week cause he has to sell the injury and he will be like oh rematch claus and no dQ and I won't fail you guys and eat my fruity pebbles then at NOC super cena kicks out of 3 f5 and does a 2 AA on steps and wins then Rollins cash in
QuadrupleH
Dark Match Winner
I enjoyed this one and think it happened the way it should have - total beat down.
I wonder if there isn't an alternative plan here that hasn't been brought up in this thread. Maybe this is dumb and maybe its not, but what if Brock is going to go face and Cena is going to go heel. I know, I know...enough with the Cena heel talk.
But I think that might be a possibility. Cena gets written off as injured for a few weeks, and Rusev steps up to Brock with the anti-American sentiment behind him. Brock annihilates Rusev, then, as someone mentioned before, when the Authority tries to claim Brock as their champion, he pushes them aside and basically says he is no ones bitch, starting a feud with them.
As for Cena turning heel, the fans were all chanting for Brock last night (aside from some little bastard kid in the audience) and even boo'd Cena on the way out on a stretcher. Brock just ended the streak, and Cena is getting boo'd - to me, that is motivation for the guy turning his back on the fans.
As for who could remove the belt off Lesnar, I don't think anyone on the roster right now would seem legit. Not only would they have to beat Lesnar, but they would have to beat him in a re-match. What are the odds of that?
The only person I could see that would beat Brock would be Rock. Maybe he comes back, beats Brock, then does the job for Reigns at Mania. Otherwise, I can't imagine Brock losing before Mania.
I can't even picture Bryan coming back and beating Brock - just seems too unrealistic physically, even from a wrestling is fake perspective.
I wonder if there isn't an alternative plan here that hasn't been brought up in this thread. Maybe this is dumb and maybe its not, but what if Brock is going to go face and Cena is going to go heel. I know, I know...enough with the Cena heel talk.
But I think that might be a possibility. Cena gets written off as injured for a few weeks, and Rusev steps up to Brock with the anti-American sentiment behind him. Brock annihilates Rusev, then, as someone mentioned before, when the Authority tries to claim Brock as their champion, he pushes them aside and basically says he is no ones bitch, starting a feud with them.
As for Cena turning heel, the fans were all chanting for Brock last night (aside from some little bastard kid in the audience) and even boo'd Cena on the way out on a stretcher. Brock just ended the streak, and Cena is getting boo'd - to me, that is motivation for the guy turning his back on the fans.
As for who could remove the belt off Lesnar, I don't think anyone on the roster right now would seem legit. Not only would they have to beat Lesnar, but they would have to beat him in a re-match. What are the odds of that?
The only person I could see that would beat Brock would be Rock. Maybe he comes back, beats Brock, then does the job for Reigns at Mania. Otherwise, I can't imagine Brock losing before Mania.
I can't even picture Bryan coming back and beating Brock - just seems too unrealistic physically, even from a wrestling is fake perspective.
I love how they are booking Brock in unpredictable matches.
Nobody thought the streak would end...and nobody thought he would squash Superman in the main event of Summerslam for the title.
What a fantastic PPV.
I LOLed at that. I am REALLY looking forward to Raw tonight and Brock Lesnar being awarded just ONE belt to carry around.
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