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I am a die hard Steeler fan but i was always a fan of Young, Rice, and Montana, even though they arent there, that doesnt give me a right not to cheer for a team that i once cheered for unless they were playing the Steelers.


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He had rights, did you see what they are doing? Moss, Brady, Welker look unstoppable. They destroyed there only test in the NFC in Dallas and that was on the Road.



They got manhandled on both sides of the ball, there d-line got manhandled and blown off the ball, and Ben was getting pressured every play. that game showed off his ability to create and manage a game even after having a bad first half. He made plays when they needed to and that is all that matters, there Defense is too blame for that game, same with the atrocious 0-line.


Not if Baltimore did the same thing to there offense as they did last yr. i believe it was combined of 15 sacks in two games. Ben will be scrambling for his life. Thats not good because the Line is worse this year than last year.



There defense is highly overrated, Ben carries that team, you would know if you watch the game. I am not saying you havent seen steeler football, but 30 second high lights never look good for the losing team. The Pats will pass all over us because Polamalu cant cover and our D-Backs are under sized. Moss would have a field day. The only reason why that game would be close if it is, is because of Ben carrying that team and making plays. Also for the Colts there offensive line is good and they would man handle everyone except Hampton or Smith, the two most underrated line man in football, and Peyton has his big game experience now, he would probably have the same success as Brady will and is going to have.



I am not saying Alex Smith wont be good i just dont see him doing anything in the next couple of years, he is quite young, his system in college was a lot different than in San Francisco. NFL is a different experience than CFB. I cant be critical on Smith because the only positive thing on that offense is Frank Gore. A running back cant carry that team so i dont expect results until Smith has a few more years under his belt, and they get players that are accustomed to a west coast system, and when there rookies develop to there potential, but that doesnt happen for many years.

I have watched a total of about 3 games with the Steelers this year..(vs Niners, vs Bills and vs Cardinals)....and I don't think the Steel Crew are in a bad spot at all...most teams would kill to be where the Steelers are...but I have to respectfully disagree with you and say that the Steelers defense will and forever always be a threat in the NFL, they will not ever slide below the 15 mark is what Im saying so there will be days when they play like Triple-H and there will be days they play like Gillberg....(hahah like my examples). ..The Ravens suck really badly on the road and the Niners would have beaten them had they made the field goal but the Ravens proved that they suck on the road last week and every week they have played since week 1.
 
I first want to say that I am a totally despondent 49ers fa...I just dont get it..I really don't. There is talent, there is potential yet there is no f-in progress. But someday and I mean someday the 49ers will finally come together and play as a winning team like their history embellishes them to be.

X-Fear I want to congrtulate you guys on yet another killing of another team and I have to admit they are possibly changing my mind about next week. Im gonna give it a few days. Then, I'll make my decision.

The Steelers did exactly what I said they would, went out and won with all the tools necissary to beat the Bungles. Kudos to them.

Also give kudos to the San Diego Chargers and New Orleans Saints for playing like the teams everyone said they were. It's about damn time. Next week should be filled with great action.

I also like to say that there was a guy in my pool who went 12-0. Yikes! I'm still in 1st though despite being a Niners fan. By a game nontheless.
 
Can someone PLEASE stop the Patriots???!!! It is driving me insane. They are by far the most dominating team I've ever seen. Some people actually believed the 'Skins had a shot. Ridiculous. Tom Brady must be stopped!
I have Maroney in a fantasy league and now Brady is stealing his goal line touches.
Whith the red sox winning the series last night, and the patriots rolling like they are, this is going to be a real long year in NY...............
 
Can someone PLEASE stop the Patriots???!!! It is driving me insane. They are by far the most dominating team I've ever seen. Some people actually believed the 'Skins had a shot. Ridiculous. Tom Brady must be stopped!
I have Maroney in a fantasy league and now Brady is stealing his goal line touches.
Whith the red sox winning the series last night, and the patriots rolling like they are, this is going to be a real long year in NY...............

I want the Pats to lose as bad as you do. But just wait one more week before they do. They HAVE to beat the Colts. The only reason I want them to win is because I'm a Jaguars fan. This would help the Jags out in the division. Other than that, the Pats are just gettting annoying running the score up on every team.
 
Ahhhh the pleasures of being a sports fan in New England.

Red Sox won the World Series last night. I'm still drunk from the celebration. The Patriots are dominating every team they see like they were schoolyard teams, and the Celtics are going to be a huge factor in the NBA this year with the new power trio of Pierce, Allen & Garnett. Its about damn time for us New Englander's to gloat though, besides the Celtics in the 80s and the Red Sox in the freakin 1910's, this part of the country has not seen many championships until this new millenium. Just remember that when thinking about how dominate the Pats have been, because don't forget the Pats were the jokes of the league for about 20 years there and everyone obviously knows the history of the Red Sox.

I do think Brady should be taken out earlier then he is being taken out however. I don't want to give the chance to any asshole to decide he wants to break Tom Brady's leg and stop the scoring & dominance.

Anyways, honestly, the Colts are going down this week. Big time. BIG time. This Patriots team is out to prove something to the world, and they will not quit. Not to mention the depth of talent on New England is so much deeper then in Indy.

I know it sounds crazy people...but seriously...Patriots 2007 will be 16-0. And Super Bowl winners.
 
. This Patriots team is out to prove something to the world, and they will not quit. Not to mention the depth of talent on New England is so much deeper then in Indy.

I know it sounds crazy people...but seriously...Patriots 2007 will be 16-0. And Super Bowl winners.

Their talent is ridiculous. It hurts. I'm a huge Jet fan that drafted a bunch of Pats on my fantasy team. Complete conflict of interest. Not that it matters anymore for the Jets anyway. Eric Manjerkoff was a flash in the pan and I'm not going to even start on Chad or the defense's tackling (OR LACK THERE OF) The only thing Mangidiot's done this year is piss off Bellicik.

16-0 would be quite an accomplishment but even so, they'll still have that * next to their name saying "caught cheating."
 
There will be no asterisk, are you friggin' serious? Everyone has forgotten about that already. Nevermind the fact that every single team in the NFL ALREADY DOES what the Pats were caught doing. Including the Jets.

What they did was not cheating. It was research. If you honestly think that the Pats thought the only way they could win against the Jets was by cheating, you're mistaken man. I already went all over this in the New England dynasty thread.
 
I can't disagree with you that every team does that. And yea the Jets are in one of their "transition years" which has been every year since Namath won the Superbowl so the pats beating the jets again was no surprise either.

As far as the * goes.... open any newspaper and look at the Conference standings. or the weekly point spreads.
 
I just looked at three different newspapers from my state, and not a single one of them has an asterisk in the standings.

Theres no asterisk on NFL.com either.

Or anywhere. There is no asterisk. People seriously don't even care about "Spygate" anymore.
 
I just looked at three different newspapers from my state, and not a single one of them has an asterisk in the standings.

Theres no asterisk on NFL.com either.

Or anywhere. There is no asterisk. People seriously don't even care about "Spygate" anymore.

This is the part where I definately agree with Xfear...all of those damn idiotic sport writers who keep calling Coach Billicheck Coach Billicheat are obviously ignorant to how good tyhis coach is and will look for any excuse to determine why the Pats have won so much in this day and age4...while I may not like it so much I have to concur that it is simply pure, damn talent that these Pats have and they are going to win the super bowl mark my words and you guys are hearing this from a 49ers fan but I am also an aspiring sports broadcaster and these idiots that call themselves reporters (cough CBS Sports cough) really don't know shit about football. The Pats and the Colts are the 2000s version if the Aikman Cowboys and the Young 49ers of the 90s. It's their time and yes it is getting annoying to watch the Pats kick ass every week, it is expected and they are doing it because they are simply better and like my dad says, they got confidence and that is why theyre running up the score on everyone.
 
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For the sake of argument-http://www.nypost.com/sports/betting/postline.htm

and-http://www.nypost.com/sports/betting/nflpicks.htm
 
of course my friend you do know that is a new york post thread....new york hates the Patriots...eeryone knows that..of course they are going to whine and moan and say what they think happened.....the fact is this...yes the Pats got caught spying on tje Jets ONCE...not twice not three times...ONCE........and other etams should not act all innocent either because probably more teams do it then they know...that does not take any credibility away from Bill Billicheck. He is a great coach and it takes a great coach to turn your team (a bad team in 2000) into a Super Bowl contender and premier powerhouse...as I have said before...I am a Niners fan but I am sick and tired of hearing all the New Yorkers (who have been spoiled by the New York Yankees for farrr too long to be complaining about anything) whining about the Patriots doing this and that....face facts they are a better team! The Jets are doing horribly right now and it is their own fault...not the Patriots fault...their own...you dont go 1-7 by being "cheated" out of 7 wins.....you do it by being terrible...I should know because as I have said before...I am a Niners fan...it sucks but you know what...you suck it in and deal with the fact that your team sucks and hope for a better future....Xfear gets to enjoy the time he has now because the Pats are winning and I say let him...Boston is a really good sports town at the moment and they are kicking New York's ass in every sports category.
 
I'm in no way saying the jets horrible record is due to the patriots and Boston is kicking our asses across the board. The pats are a great team and I only posted the link to show that the * is out there. I can't wait until sunday 4:15 though.

From a Jet to a 49er..It's all about rebuilding.lol
 
Just remember this saying: Everyone has their time to shine...except the texans....but yes even the Raiders....We have horrible coaches (minus Nolan) so thats kinda the reason we are where we are at...the jets are horibly inconsistent...win-loss-win-loss-win-loss thats been the pattern so that means next year they are gonna be good magically...I just dont know anymore...hopefully we beat the Falcons this week....good god we got to beat the Freaking falcons! theyre the falcons!
 
See I just don't get this excuse by Pat fans that "Everyone Does It". Face it, your team got caught cheating, and no one else has. How do you know everyone else does it? Have you seen everyone else doing it? No, no one else has been caught, so for all intents and purposes, it's the Pats that are cheaters, plain and simple.

This isn't an NFL witchhunt for the Patriots. Hell, this might have been the last thing the NFL wanted. The NFL has been pushing the Pats as the model franchise of all of sports over the last 7 years. Why would the NFL want to ruin that? The Pats got caught, and this wasn't the first time either. Does it put to question there superbowls, thats opinion and speculative. The sad thing was that these guys are so good that they resorted to doing this.

Now as far as this weekend, I'm going with the Colts. I like the Pats, I like what they are doing. I love the bad boy run the scoreboard up stuff they are doing, but, when you look at the schedules of these two, the Pats have played a cupcake schedule. Don't give me the Cowboys, the Cowboys are a 4-3 team at best in the AFC. The colts have won either 3 or 4 in a row against the Pats, so you know that weighs on a team.

Bottomline, Peyton Manning is the best quarterback in the league by far, and he maybe the greatest of all time. Bellichick is a great coach to, don't get me wrong, but Peyton Manning is a better player then Bellichick is a coach, and I think Manning is going to shred that defense.
 
To be on the safe side (since my buddies in my contest are probably picking the Pats) I gotta go with new England because I was burned by the Pats a few weeks ago...Im not gonna make that mistake again.

I want the Colts to win but the Patriots are too strong and too confident to lose right now. Maybe they are that damn good. And I made that argument as a intellectual sports writer, not a Pats fan. XFEAR likes the Pats, I like the Niners, I just admire the Pats and respect them because I will never forget the Super Bowl they beat the Rams, when the Rams were being introduced one by one, what did the Pats do? They came out as a TEAM...that is a football team that doesnt make one star they make 30 stars.
 
To be on the safe side (since my buddies in my contest are probably picking the Pats) I gotta go with new England because I was burned by the Pats a few weeks ago...Im not gonna make that mistake again.

You may be making a mistake again this week by betting against the champions. Yes, New England is undefeated and has looked damn near unstoppable this season. But they have not even come close to playing a team with kind of resilience and firepower as the Colts. The Cowboys are good, but they are not that good. This is the week New England finally gets a loss and then has a week off to think about it. Book it.
 
I cannot believe no one is here yet! But that was a great NFL day! I mean my Niners still suck and all but wow! Lions won 44-7 against denver! tALK about a return to dominance fotr an old Lions team.

That was such a great game and then the Chargers getting rammed by the Vikings...(no pun intended)....wow! Adrian Peterson scores 3 touchdowns and wins!

Then, there is the mother of all games. Colts vs Patriots and The Patriots were proven very weak for 3 and a half quarters today until the Pats came back! The pats and the colts must really have some good bedtime stories for their grandchildren after all is said and done. wow!

a funny thing, my niners are 2-6 and still 2 games back in the NFC worst. Wow!
 
That was such a great game and then the Chargers getting rammed by the Vikings...(no pun intended)....wow! Adrian Peterson scores 3 touchdowns and wins!

seriously Ive been saying this for weeks Adrian Peterson is the next great running back in the NFL. After seeing him run all over the Bears along with other teams early in the season I was sold and now after he breaks the single game rushing record as a rookie against a decent defense in the chargers hes proving himself even more
 
As we all expected from super bowl 41 and a half, it was a great game it really showed how the pats and colts have set themselves ahead of the rest of the league. Both teams played to the whistle for 60 minutes and as we expected, the team that makes that defensive play towards the end of the game(rosie colvins turnover) will win. The pats still have the target on their back though can they do the unthinkable 16-0?
 
The pats still have the target on their back though can they do the unthinkable 16-0?

They better go undefeated because I cant take haviong the Dolphins being the only perfect team anymore. They pop champagne everytime the last undefeated team loses and to me thats just classless, If the Pats could go undefeated in a longer season that IMO would make me very happy
 
They better go undefeated because I cant take haviong the Dolphins being the only perfect team anymore. They pop champagne everytime the last undefeated team loses and to me thats just classless, If the Pats could go undefeated in a longer season that IMO would make me very happy

That's not classless, they are just celebrating the fact that they have accomplished something no one else has, they've earned that right by being the only team to ever go undefeated in a season, and it would be horrible if NE went undefeated cause they don't deserve it, they have a ridiculously east schedule, and are nothing more than the bullies of the NFL, all they do is run up the score after they have clearly won the game, and to me that is classless, it doesn't matter though cause the Pats won't go undefeated, I'm thinking toward the end of the season when they are resting up their stars somebody is going to come out of nowhere and shock the hell out of them, and I hope to god that it happens in week 16, it would be so great to see the Dolphins beat the Pats, LOL

BTW did anyone else hear what Ditka said this morning on ESPN, about how NE will never be America's team cause just about nobody in America likes the Pats except people that live in Boston, and you know what he was right, everybody I know hates the Pats
 
comin from NE and livin all throughout the country i noticed that everybody hates the pats for winning so many superbowls, and especially now because of their recent running up of the score. I do have to say it is belicheck that is classless not the team brady is at the top of the league right there with manning when it comes to class. Some say belicheck is doing this because of the controversy that is "spygate". As for losing later in the season towards a dolphins, it just wont happen belicheck will keep brady in till the half when it becomes virtually impossible to come back. The 72 dolphins should be proud of themselves for going undefeated but organizing a party to watch somebody defeat isn't cool man
 
That's not classless, they are just celebrating the fact that they have accomplished something no one else has,they've earned that right by being the only team to ever go undefeated in a season,

I agree that is something no team has ever done besides them. That was a great accomplishment and might not get matched by anyone ever.

and it would be horrible if NE went undefeated cause they don't deserve it, they have a ridiculously east schedule, and are nothing more than the bullies of the NFL, all they do is run up the score after they have clearly won the game, and to me that is classless,

How is this classless? There Job is too execute on every down of every game. Whether it is 24-21 or 62-13. It would be well deserved if they would go undefeated because they would manage to be on top of their game the whole entire season. The Pats have won every game they have played and that is the point of football, they havent lost a game they were suppose to win, and they have defeated two worthy opponents and there is 7 or 8 games to go in the Season and they Still got to Play PGH :p

BTW did anyone else hear what Ditka said this morning on ESPN, about how NE will never be America's team cause just about nobody in America likes the Pats except people that live in Boston, and you know what he was right, everybody I know hates the Pats

But that same guy is the person who said he has no problem with New England running running up the score. I am not from New England nor do i like the team, but they are an almighty team. Apparently they will be America's team and not in a good way, they will be like the All American team you love to hate, sort of like my perspective with any team from New York in baseball.
 
An easy schedule? Bullshit, there are no easy schedules in the NFL. This season we have faced and will face Dallas, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Baltimore, and the Giants. All of those teams are among the best in the NFL. That is not an "easy schedule" by any means.

And the only reason we face teams like the Dolphins and Bills more then once is because they're in our division.

I'm sorry everyone but guess what: The Patriots are better then your favorite football team. It's true, they are. They are much better and have won more Super Bowls in the last 7 years then your team has. Get the FUCK over it.

Seriously people, stop your bitching. Its annoying as hell. I'm sorry that the Patriots are so ridiculiously good that they make all of your favorite teams look like Pee Wee players (except for Indy fans) and I'm sorry that you're not as successful as us. But suck it up, act like a man, and get the fuck over it. Do you realize how many fucking years I had to go without a sports title of ANY kind? The Red Sox were losers until 2004, the Patriots were the laughing stock of the NFL until 2001, the Bruins haven't done shit since the 80s and the same goes for the Celtics. And I cheered for all of these teams with a smile, and didn't sit around bitching about how unfair it is because the other team was so good. I got over it.

Do the same.

Patriots will be 16-0. You heard me.
 
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